• Report: #449542

Complaint Review: Craigslist Security Guard Jobs Scam

  • Submitted: Thu, May 07, 2009
  • Updated: Sun, January 09, 2011

  • Reported By:New York, NY New York
Craigslist Security Guard Jobs Scam
http://newyork.craigslist.org/sec/ New York, New York U.S.A.

Craigslist Security Guard Jobs Scam Security Guard Jobs Scam on Craigslist New York New York

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*Consumer Comment: Be careful

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There is an outrageously popular scam by Security Guard School in New York City. They place ad in craigslist as if they need individuals to work as Security Guard and when you call or send in your resume, they get back to you saying that they have thousand of positions available at various location throughout the city. They brag-brag-and-brag about the positions and tell you that you would be a perfect match for the position given the benefits and rewards.

When you get hooked in their little scam, the tell you that you need to give then about 1200 dollars to get you certified in Metal detector, CPR, pre-assignment, 16 hour on the job training, loss prevention, certificate of fitness and sometime even try to hook you into paying them as much as an extra $500 for a NYC gun permit.

After you put down all that money, they tell you that the site closed before you completed the training and that there are not sites open at this time for you to work on. They then take your info and you never again here from then and every time you call them is the same until you get tire and forget about the whole thing.

They tried to scam me by tricking into getting overpriced certifications and training not required to be a security guard in New York State. When I called for an interview as the Ad on Craigslist required, they pitch me every certification on the planet and when I told them that I had all the certification/training allegedly required for the job. They told that it was better because it put me ahead of the line but I need to pay 120 dollars to register with them. But I told then that I was licensed, therefore, registered with NY dept of state. The person on the phone scorned but you are not registered with us but. I then, informed him that he was not a regulatory agency for me to register with him and that he needed to informed what regulations state that I have pay a fee to register with him, he cursed me out and hang up the phone.

Over the following days, I proceeded to call numerous Security Guard job postings on craigslist and all turned out to be similar certification pitching scam.

I now countless people who ere scammed using this technique, But this thief keep on doing the same thing over and over.

If any one wants to work as a security guard in New York State, they only need the 8 hour pre-assignment class. After you get a job, you need 16 hour on the job training (that's why it is called: On-The-Job-Training). Then, if you decide that you want to keep on doing security guard work (which is normally underpaid and tedious (for it requires you to put your life in danger or deal with all kind of crazy people on a daily basis), you need to be licensed by New York Dept of State.

If you want to get a certificate of fitness from the fire department (http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/c_of_f/coff.shtml), you can download the study materials from their site which is free. Then pay a $25 fee to take the test. You don't have to pay costly classes or pay expensive tutor because this test are really simple (I am not studious and got 95 on it)

As for all the other Certifications, They are never required by New York State to be a security guard. They are optional at best. You can get them down the road to have the bragging rights but that's down the road when you get a great job that pays for it or when gain enough experience to be consider for a supervisory position.

Finally, some of the certification being pitch do not even make any since.

For example, Pistol permit, you re more likely to be struck by lightening than get a job as an armed guard without experience. Even if you can manage pass the background investigation and to convince the NYPD to give a hand gun permit because someday some will let an inexperience guard secure their multimillion dollar assets, you won't find people to hire you without experience. Sometimes, armored company hire experienced unarmed guards and trained them in order to get their pistol permits but you don't have to pay them a dime.

Another example is fire director, in order to get a fire director license in NYC; you need at least two years of experience working in the place where you are going to be tested. So, it makes no sense to pay $1000 for the class if you can use it. Moreover, most institution pay for fire director classes for their employees and will gladly pay because they are require to have a fire director onsite all times or they get fined a heavy penalty by the fire dept. So by having as many fire guard as possible take the fire director exam, they avoid personnel shortage when the directors are out, sick, on vacation or on salary dispute

In conclusion, try to avid this security guard scams in craigslist for they can be very costly.

New York, NY, New York

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AUTHOR: ss6804034 - ()

I was going to be sucked into this too. Thankfully I read the report online and dint fall for this. 

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Good Report

AUTHOR: Security Academy of New york - (United States of America)

Very good report. You are right on the money. However, allow me to comment on the 8hr / 16hr and license procedure. You can't work as a security guard in NYS unless you actually have the license in your hands OR at a minimun, your application is in the mail to DOS. A security guard company cannot hire you and then wait untilyou decide that you wantto bea security guard. They must send the application to Albany upon you being hired, if they don't, this could be a liability issue for them if you get injured or did something wrong.

While it is correct that all you need to apply for a job or your license is your 8hr pre, most companies prefer to interview when you have both. There are many reasons for this, which varies from company to company.

If your 16hr ojt can only be done on the job in order to get your certificate, what happens when you change job sites. Example - you got your 16hr training at a hotel and then you are moved to a construction site or an apartment building or a corporate office or a school or a parking lot or a hospital. While it is called on-the-job, the training is actually done in the classroomwith many different examples on many differentduties and onmany different situations.

I hope this info helps. Keep up the good work. You are doing a good service as a Watchman.

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Be careful

AUTHOR: robyr77 - (USA)

Hey thank you very much for your post.

I was about to set up an interview with one of these companies but luckily I surfed

the web to know more information about the job.

Be aware all this scams or most of them do not have the real name of the company.

Usually serious Security Guards companies have their own website.

People be careful what you put yourselves into.

It's a Jungle out there and so many are scambag ripping off people.

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