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  • Submitted: Thu, February 23, 2006
  • Updated: Wed, May 26, 2010

  • Reported By:Decatur Georgia
DeVry University
250 N. Arcadia Decatur, Georgia U.S.A.

DeVry University Ripoff Suckered Me Too! ripoff Decatur Georgia

*Consumer Suggestion: DeVry does mislead people

*Consumer Comment: Unrealistic expectations....

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Here is my experience with DeVry University Decatur, GA!

When I enrolled in DeVry University, I was told by my recruiter that I would be a computer engineer upon completion of the program. I explained to her that I wanted to pursue a degree in a career field that would lead me to achieve my goal of buying a home and creating a family. She said this field was the most challenging career choice at the university. She also stated, with this degree, I would be graduating among the elite, and that I should have no problem getting employment, and eventually achieving my goal. After talking with her, I enrolled with expectations of becoming a computer engineer. In my mind, I thought I would be qualified to be placed in a position that would lead to management. I expected to learn all aspects of computer science and expected to gain a solid understanding of circuit theory and electronic circuits. I also expected to command a salary that would be commensurate to my education. As I left her office, I envisioned driving a fine car, living in a plush home, creating and supporting a family, and sending my children to the finest schools. I exhaled as I walked to my car thinking, I've finally made a choice that was right, and I felt good about that choice.
However, the reality of the situation was that I would not be a computer engineer but a computer engineering technician. DeVry University instead teaches students the skills to become a computer engineering technician.

With this knowledge, I asked myself, how does a computer engineering degree program differ from a computer engineering technology program?

In my research, I discovered the computer engineering degree program emphasizes design and invention whereas the computer engineering technology program emphasizes maintenance and repair.

Course titles are often similar in the computer engineer and computer engineering technology programs but course content differs considerably. Since the computer engineering program emphasizes design and invention, it requires considerably more in-depth understanding at a more fundamental level. This implies that the computer engineering program contains more science and mathematics and uses that science and mathematics in the engineering course work. The computer engineering technology program has a different emphasis that requires more hands-on activity and lab work.

For example, if you wanted your computer network repaired, you would ask a technician to do that since that is what he is trained to do. On the other hand, if you were designing a new computer network, you would ask an engineer to do that because she has the fundamentals and background necessary for design.

So, in reality, I would not be qualified upon graduation for placement in a position of management. As a technician, I would not learn all aspects of computer science and would not gain a complete understanding of circuit theory and electronic circuits. The salary earned would be commensurate to a technician and not an engineer. In order to achieve the dream of driving a fine car, living in a plush home, creating and supporting a family, and sending my children to the finest schools, I would have to further my education and pursue a Bachelor of Science in Computer Engineering degree. The reality of the situation is that I should have not taken the word of the DeVry University recruiter. I should have instead, invested more time researching my decision.

When I enrolled at DeVry University, I was told that upon completion of my degree, I would be a computer engineer. The reality of the situation is that the degree offered, was not a computer engineering degree, but instead a computer engineering technician degree. I also discovered that to make an informed decision, I need to do extensive research and compare the gathered information to form an informed conclusion.

I wrote this as an English paper and now the instructor, Professor Jones, refuses to give me a grade for the entire class.

Derryl
Decatur, Georgia
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

DeVry does mislead people

AUTHOR: Dannyd072009 - (United States of America)

Sorry to hear about your problems with DeVry Derryl. This probably won't make you feel any better, but you are NOT an isolated case. Unfortunately not everyone is willing to go public as you have.


First of all, keep in mind that these "recruiters", "admissions advisors", "enrollment counselors" etc. are really just salespeople hired by DeVry to sell you on going to school at their facility, on campus or online. They are buy no means "admissions advisors" in the normal tradition.


They do a great job in selling the dream as you found out. Most of DeVry's "recruiters" come from multi level marketing backgrounds and that is where the "selling the dream" comes from. Unfortunately it remains a dream long after you enroll, graduate and are stuckw ith a large $45,000 to $75,000 educational tab that DOES NOT deliver on it's promises. Of course you already know this.


In defense of these DeVry salepeople, many of them are well meaning, but brainwashed by DeVry, the DeVry trainers, management, ADA's etc. Many actually believe in ehat they say, others are just typical salespeople who are out to make a sale, close the deal irregardless if whether the program works for the student or not.


The good news is that the right people have been listening. A big meeting is scheduled in June to discuss these for profit schools like DeVry, University Of Phoenix, ITT and others:


http://www.ibj.com/obama-plans-new-rules...


The Obama adminsitrationis looking into this and most people see the hard fist of the law coming down. If it is any consolation to you, it is people like you who have brought this to the attention of the government.


I don't know if you follow the stock market at all, but this is why DV, APOL, ESI and other educ stocks have been tanking for weeks and will probably see an even bigger selloff in June.


To anyone looking to enroll in one of these schools, I would recommend that you at least wait untill after the meeting in June.  However, I would strongly recommend a community or state school in lieu on DeVry or their peers who pretty much operate the same way.


 


Just my 2 cents worth.


Thanks for sharing your experience. You may have saved several people a very miserable experience with DeVry.  

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#2 Consumer Comment

Unrealistic expectations....

AUTHOR: F. - (U.S.A.)

"In order to achieve the dream of driving a fine car, living in a plush home, creating and supporting a family, and sending my children to the finest schools,"

My husband is a computer engineer and has been for some time. While it certainly is possible to live a richer lifestyle it isn't even close to being a given. It depends a great deal on where you live, where you work, your work history and practical experience, as well as what particular job area you are employed in (networking, etc).

I think that it is great that you took the time to find out the differences between a technician and an engineer. What I have seen happen many times is that someone who is working at a tech level will educate themselves through classes or life experiences and move into an engineer position.

"I should have instead, invested more time researching my decision."

I think you summed it up perfectly. I would like to add that any information you have learned taking computer tech classes will not be wasted.
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