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Complaint Review: Elgordo Loteria Primitiva

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  • Submitted: Fri, September 24, 2004
  • Updated: Tue, October 19, 2004

  • Reported By:Hancock Michigan
Elgordo Loteria Primitiva
PLAZA DE COLON E-28830 MADRID, Spain

Elgordo Loteria Primitiva RIPOFF FRAUD MADRID SPAIN

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Sure, there is nothing for free.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: mr there is nothing free in united states.

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We received a letter today that we have won $615,810 USD. There was no return address on the letter. The letter itself did not have any of our names on it. The letter accompanied a Payment Processing Form asking for our personal information. It was dated for Sept 15, 2004 and asked to redeem the amount by Oct 15, 2004. oh it also said " Due to mix up of some numbers and names, we ask you to keep this award from public notice until your claim has been processed..."

Anyways, our ticket number, lucky number and serial number matched with other reports submiited on this site. I'm just glad that I searched this company before believing it. Thanks to everyone for putting the word out. I wanted to do my share as well by writting this.

Kamal
Hancock, Michigan
U.S.A.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sure, there is nothing for free.

AUTHOR: Hai Anh - (Australia)

I do not know how the Agency: WINTERTHUR SEGUROS S.A. know exactly my name and address in Australia? Can anyone please tell me?

Anyway I would like to answer to Thanh - Fort Lauderdale, Florida, U.S.A. In my letter I have received " Your name attached to a ticket number 025-11464992-750 with serial number 2113-05 drew the lucky nembers 4-18-24-30-31-35 which consequently won the lottery in the 3rd category.
You have therefore been approve for a lump sum pay out of 615,810.00 Euro ...."

I did fax the form to WINTERTHUR SEGUROS S.A. and I got a reponse from the Manager named Alonso Raul. I also did ring him on +34-618 223 192.

I also received a fax from the so call Manager Johnson Carlos of Banco La Caixa bank asking me to pay the transfer fee of 6,155.1 Euro (for Electronic tranfer) or 2,463.24 Euro (for telegraph transfer) to:
Johnson Carlos
Name of Bank: Banco "La Caixa"
International Bank Account Number
ES31 2100 4806 1320 0000 4327
SWIFT BIC CORD: CAIXESBBXXX
ADDRESS: Madrid Branch
Country: Spain

If anyone want to see copy of faxes from Alonso Raul ("Manager" of Winterthur Seguros S.A.), Johnson Carlos ("Manager" of Bank of Banco La Caixa), Pedro Garzon ("Manager" of Loterias y Apuestas del Estado)then fax/phone me on 61+2+97232598 I will disconnect my fax machine in two week time.
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#2 REBUTTAL Individual responds

mr there is nothing free in united states.

AUTHOR: Thanh - (U.S.A.)

first thank you for posting this site so people can check it out. i have the same letter with the my name on it. you did mention about the reference no. and batch no. on the letter are the same. If you don't mind, let me know what is the numbers. i have the same feeling with you that why i decided to check it out first before doing anything. the letter sure did get anyone's attention. but i remember one phrase "there is nothing free in united states." remember that
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