Complaint Review: FEMA - New Orleans Louisiana
- FEMA http://www.fema.gov New Orleans, Louisiana U.S.A.
- Phone: 800-621-FEMA
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- Category: Federal Government
FEMA ripoff fema fema.gov victims of Katrina New Orleans Louisiana
*Consumer Suggestion: Did You Get Any Funds?
*Consumer Comment: our crime rates went up exponentially. I am not saying that this is a result of the refugees but..
*Consumer Comment: In complete awe!
*Consumer Comment: No need to apologize Julie
*Consumer Comment: Still no sympathy here
*Consumer Comment: get a clue
*Consumer Comment: New Orleans was NOT hit by the hurricane
*Consumer Comment: Just because some people are asking for help from FEMA, it doesn't mean that they don't have a job or are just looking for a hand out ...to everyone...
*Consumer Comment: Quick Update
*Consumer Comment: Dear Michael
*Consumer Suggestion: human basic needs
*Consumer Comment: I have trouble feeling sympathy
*Consumer Comment: Ridiculous!
*Consumer Comment: I have to agree with Robert-Jacksonville on this one..
*Consumer Suggestion: FEMA taken advantage of
*Consumer Comment: Don't be afraid
*Consumer Comment: this was a goverment winfall - roberts right
*Consumer Comment: May not be factual
*Consumer Comment: Kami
*Consumer Comment: Cheating at the Blame Game
*Consumer Comment: I am also from Louisiana
*Consumer Comment: I am also from Louisiana
*Consumer Comment: I am also from Louisiana
*Consumer Comment: I am also from Louisiana
*Consumer Suggestion: Lori - I "extensive" research is obtuse
*Consumer Suggestion: New Orleans vs Louisiana
*Consumer Suggestion: New Orleans vs Louisiana
*Consumer Suggestion: New Orleans vs Louisiana
*Consumer Suggestion: New Orleans vs Louisiana
*Consumer Comment: I shall quote for/from you Richard
*Consumer Comment: No Disrespect Intended Richard!!
*Consumer Comment: No Disrespect Intended Richard!!
*Consumer Comment: No Disrespect Intended Richard!!
*Consumer Comment: No Disrespect Intended Richard!!
*Consumer Comment: My $.02
*Consumer Comment: Robert, Lori, Pete, Judy, and others . . .
*Consumer Comment: Robert, Lori, Pete, Judy, and others . . .
*Consumer Comment: Robert, Lori, Pete, Judy, and others . . .
*Consumer Comment: Robert, Lori, Pete, Judy, and others . . .
*Consumer Comment: Heartless??? I Think Not!!
*Consumer Comment: Question for Lori...
*Consumer Comment: You got that right.
*Consumer Comment: Entitled???? This is the problem!
*Consumer Comment: So all the New Orleans people want work, eh?
*Consumer Comment: I have lived in NOLA all my life
*Consumer Comment: check this out ...Governor Blanco actually requested federal aid two days before Katrina hit. Bush declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered federal aid on Aug. 26, 2005
*Consumer Comment: To Robert
*Consumer Comment: Mayor Nagin doesn't dispute the numbers Lori...
*Consumer Comment: That is NOT what "general welfare" means
*Consumer Comment: Robert, I agree with you 100% -to all the LAZY ASSES go back to New Orleans and get a job helping rebuild your community.
*Consumer Comment: To Robert
*Consumer Comment: Constitutiional
*Consumer Comment: I got a letter today... what's left of Biloxi...the place the Hurricane actually HIT!
*Consumer Comment: I got a letter today... what's left of Biloxi...the place the Hurricane actually HIT!
*Consumer Comment: I asked someone there - Mc Donalds offering a $500 hire on bonus and they are paying $9 an hour.
*Consumer Comment: Please instruct me - PROVE it with facts
*Consumer Comment: Please instruct me - PROVE it with facts
*Consumer Comment: Please instruct me - PROVE it with facts
*Consumer Comment: Please instruct me - PROVE it with facts
*Consumer Comment: I call Bullsh**!!!
*Consumer Comment: Unconstitutional?
*Consumer Comment: Guess how many jobs are available for immediate hires? Two thousand one hundred and eighty six. 2,186.
*Consumer Comment: Sorry Dave, you miss the whole point
*Consumer Comment: That sucks Robert, How dare you tell someone who lost EVERYTHING to Katrina to get a job!
*Consumer Suggestion: Try getting a job
I need money from FEMA. Like thousands of others we are not getting any money. We are being screwed with no place to live.
D
d, Louisiana
U.S.A.
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#65 Consumer Suggestion
Did You Get Any Funds?
AUTHOR: Norris - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 11, 2006
D, you haven't said if you were issued a $2500 debit card, or if you were temporarily relocated into a motel or floating hotel, with all expenses paid.
For the record what have you gotten from FEMA or other support groups? Where are you living now, you have power to run a computer, and you have an internet hook up, and oh yeh, you have a computer. I am like others here, saying you are a NOLA Katrina victim is an automatic strike against you.
Why? I'll tell you why. I have seen organizations attempt to assist the NOLA refugees only to be turned away because the color of the freely given furniture wasn't what they wanted, or they would not help unload the truck because they were victims and shouldn't be expected to lift a finger.
Nagin and his cronies are to blame for your situation, 30 memebers on the waterworks counsel, which includes the levees, and each ward is in charge of their area. No one was an engineer, and they answered to no one, yet it was FEMA's fault, or Bush's fault, not the citizens of NOLA. They were wrapped in their "What, me worry" security blanket, enjoying the fruits of other people's sweat, i.e., five generations of welfare, with the average citizen having a 9th grade education.
To the citizens of the truly unexpected parts of the coast that were destroyed by katrina, I hope some of my contributions got to needy hands, but to those who lived in a fish bowl, and didn't leave, sorry Charlie.
#64 Consumer Comment
our crime rates went up exponentially. I am not saying that this is a result of the refugees but..
AUTHOR: Stacey - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 04, 2006
I live in Arlington, TX. Arlington received quite a few refugees. In fact, 8 families moved into my apartment complex alone. 2 of the families moved in across the street. They are on the porch, listening to loud music, no matter what time I exit my apartment. The other day, they had a very loud argument in the street. This is just my personal, limited experience. But it certainly hasn't been pleasant.
Also, Arlington has always been touted as one of the safest cities in TX. Last year, our crime rates went up exponentially. I am not saying that this is a result of the refugees but it certainly seems to be an odd coincidence.
#63 Consumer Comment
In complete awe!
AUTHOR: Ryan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 04, 2006
I've read so many rebuttals to this posting and I am completly shocked by many of them. Yes, Fema made many mistakes. I do beleive that FEMA has learned from them. Right now, driving on the 610 it's amazing how far the water damage goes. And yes, there was wind damage in the NO area and west of it. Remember, Katrina had the same effect as a F3 tornado 30 miles wide. If memory serves, some 12 to 13 thousand jobs were lost due to the casinos being destroyed on the Ms gulf coast alone. Yes, there were people abusing the "handouts" from fema, churches, wal-mart, and whoever else was trying to help. I don't think it's right for anyone to d**n a man who has returned to his home only to find...It's not there. So many people lived in mancamps for so long because there car is gone, job is gone, clothes, food, everything. It's kinda hard to get standing back on your feet when all has been taken from you. To those of you who helped us down here, from the bottom of our hearts, THANK YOU! For those who are complaining, well, Don't talk about farmers with your mouth full!
#62 Consumer Comment
No need to apologize Julie
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 27, 2006
I have 4 cousins who live in Biloxi. All of them were back to working within a week or so. I don't have to go there to know what happened. One is a realtor, who sent pics of the place. From the air, it looks pretty bad. From the ground, it looked worse. The only person who seems to think NO was hit by the actual Hurricane, is you. It was hit by the rain...ONLY. Living 12 feet below sea level is just plain stupid. And like Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid".
As for NO's crime problems...DUH! I already adressed that issue. When Nagin's constituents were bussed away, crime fell...almost disappeared completely. When he had them brought back so they could vote for him, crime went back up.
I'd still like to know what the crime rates did in the cities these derelicts went to did, AFTER they were returned to NO.
#61 Consumer Comment
Still no sympathy here
AUTHOR: Aafes - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 27, 2006
Still, no sympathy here. Again, I contend, if you choose to live in hurricane alley, or in a city that is several feet below sea level on the coast, and you aren't financially prepared for a disaster, I can't sympathize with you. The disaster is inevitable, whether it be one of major proportions like Katrina, or a tropical storm that causes damage.
If you elect to live there you need to be prepared. Not doing so makes no more sense than a commercial kitchen not having a fire extinguisher.
#60 Consumer Comment
get a clue
AUTHOR: Julie - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 26, 2006
Since Biloxi is gone, then maybe you should inform the thousands of people living there of that. I'm sure they wouldn't want to stay in a place that no longer exists. Also, while you're at it, maybe you can explain to the people in New Orleans who have no roof or trees through their homes that it was all just flood damage. I'm sure they'll be thankful for your insight. And imagine, you knew all of that and you didn't even have to leave home and look for yourself. Amazing.
By the way, crime's been on the rise for months now, but then that's was to be expected as the people return. New Orleans had a crime problem before the storm and before Nagin so it's no suprise that it's starting to come back again. Crime in big cities is not unusual.
#59 Consumer Comment
New Orleans was NOT hit by the hurricane
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 25, 2006
New Orleans recieved 100% of it's damage from the flooding...nothing else.
The levees breached, and the city was flooded. Biloxi was all but wiped off the map. Where the homes are flattened, is where the hurricane hit.
As an aside, did anyone else notice how New Orleans had to ask for the National Guard to help control the criminals? Did you notice the city did NOT have a real crime problem before Nagin had all of his constituents bussed back in? Now, they have a crime wave. It would be interesting to see if the crime rates in the cities they came back from, have gone down.
I'm betting they did.
Those who work, always will. Those who won't, never will.
#58 Consumer Comment
Just because some people are asking for help from FEMA, it doesn't mean that they don't have a job or are just looking for a hand out ...to everyone...
AUTHOR: Julie - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 25, 2006
It's amazing to me how many people in this country seem to believe they know what's really going on in Louisiana when they haven't been here since the storm and probably have never been here. The media did a fine job of destroying the good people of Louisiana and the country bought it hook, line and sinker. Some of the comments here just made me cringe so here's my 2 cents on a few of them.......
1. Just because some people are asking for help from FEMA, it doesn't mean that they don't have a job or are just looking for a hand out. Most of them have missed work and have had extra expenses. Many of them are having to fight with their insurance companies who are trying to get out of paying what they should and haven't recieved a penny yet. Their bills didn't just disappear after the storm and now their having to pay a mortgage and rent to live elsewhere. They're just trying to get by and are asking for a hand-up from their government with their tax money.
2. Biloxi was not the place "really" hit by the hurricane. In fact, Biloxi looks pretty good compared to Waveland, Bay St. Louis, St. Bernard parish and Plaquemines parish (where the hurricane hit first)I love Biloxi and will miss the old Beach Blvd., but not nearly as many people lost their homes there as they did in those other areas, including New Orleans.
3. There are many jobs in Louisiana, but why come home to work and rebuild if you can't be sure the levee's won't fail again or the MRGO (hurricane highway) won't be closed. As the media has pointed out tirelessly, there are people who refuse to work and want to live off of the govt., but there are other reasons out there also. Not everyone is lazy.
4. Just because Judy knows two girls from Louisiana that don't work and are collecting child support, it doesn't mean that they are the standard to base everyone from La. on. I'm sure the people of Ga. wouldn't want me judging them on Judy's response either.
5. While 16% of the FEMA money given out was spent fraudulently, 84% was spent on legitimate expenses. You didn't hear the media pointing that out. Nor was everyone from the affected area and/or did they lose anything.
6. Katrina was a horrible disaster and because of the media, many people don't even want to hear about us because they think that we are all ungrateful bottom feeders who just want another handout. The sad fact is though, that many people are still hurting while trying to pick up the pieces and move on. They don't want a hand out, just a hand up in their darkest hours.
Clink, Clink
#57 Consumer Comment
Quick Update
AUTHOR: Cory - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 13, 2006
Quick update from San Antonio. It sure was good for a while, to have all those fema issued, red cross, visa cards here in my jewelry store and it sure is hard to find anyone to do any construction work around here. All the Mexicans, legal and illegal, went to Louisana to earn the big bucks. If they're going all the way to NO for the jobs, there's gotta be something there.
#56 Consumer Comment
Dear Michael
AUTHOR: Angela - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 13, 2006
Out of all of the comments I have read, yours it quit the realist. I live in Houma, LA about 50 miles away from New Orleans. Ive have seen the devastation first hand. About 70% of the New Orleans population were poor people. There were more then 10 Project housing Develpoments in New Orleans alone.
It is fair to say that some people are looking for a handout but their are some that are looking for a hand up. When I went to New Orleans there were more Mexican Immagrants then I had ever seen in my life.
so they say where are the jobs HMMM... If they managed to find work those other folks can. So Robert is right. and alot of other opinions are right. But like Michael said People are people. Not everyone will do the right thing.
#55 Consumer Suggestion
human basic needs
AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 13, 2006
most of the responses above are sad! if you didn't think so much about your so called statis or how you are better than someone else you may be able to realise that this could happen to anyone and at anytime. who cares if some of the people affected by the hurricane were rich, or poor, working or not. what difference does it really make. people are people and at a time of need they all need help regardless.
#54 Consumer Comment
I have trouble feeling sympathy
AUTHOR: Aafes - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 10, 2006
I, like other posters, have trouble feeling sympathy for these people. As has been said, when someone chooses to live in a city that is below sea level and in hurricane alley, why does it become the responsibility of the rest of the nations taxpayers to "rebuild" their city - so this can happen again.
Living in this area makes as little sense as building on an earthquake fault, below an active volcano or on the edge of a mud cliff in California. Anyone who chooses to live in any of these areas knows they take a risk - one they should prepare well in advance for financially.
It should not be the government's responsibility to bail out the city or it's citizens.
The general welfare clause as defined by Thomas Jefferson:
[T]he laying of taxes is the power, and the general welfare the purpose for which the power is to be exercised. They [Congress] are not to lay taxes ad libitum for any purpose they please; but only to pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union. In like manner, they are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for that purpose. - Thomas Jefferson
#53 Consumer Comment
Ridiculous!
AUTHOR: Shelli - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 10, 2006
I can see both sides of this argument but I mostly agree with the fact that a lot of lazy people are taking advantage of the situation and totally screwing over the hard-working citizens that really do deserve the financial gelp. But what really pisses me off is the statements these so-called professional people are making such as:
1. "Yes, there are many jobs available in New Orleans, but the good paying professional jobs are not in existence. I cannot maintain my lifestyle on flipping burgers. Neither can I immediately change my lifestyle."
2. "If you were a medical professional would you take a job at McDonalds? You would get that age old "over qualified" bull****!!!"
What the hell is that about? I'm sorry if you are too good to work at McDonalds or places like that but if you want to support your family, isn't it better to get a job at McDonalds and keep your self respect than to sit back and wait for government assistance? What kind of role model are these people setting for their children? It's disgusting!
#52 Consumer Comment
I have to agree with Robert-Jacksonville on this one..
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 10, 2006
Robert may be blunt..but speaks the truth.
Although there were many hard working tax paying people affected by Katrina, they ARE NOT the majority.
Katrina was a major payday for the derilects and bums. The entire welfare crowd made out like a bandit, while the hardworking taxpayers took it you know where.
These lowlifes went from having nothing to living for 3-6 months+ in a very nice hotel with all ameneties AND 3 meals a day!
They lived better than I do, and they essentially lost NOTHING, because they had NOTHING!
We need to get a proper perspective on the REAL issues here.
We need to get able bodied people off welfare and put them to work. We need to stop raising another generation of illiterate and lazy bums.
The truth hurts, and that's a good thing. Tell it like it is. Get off your a*s and get a job. We have about 2 full generations that only know how to reach out for welfare.
FEMA has it's problems, but our society has far more issues that are the root of the problem here.
There is work out there for ANYONE who WANTS to work. Period.
As far as the person who said it is hard to get a job when you cant shower. I lived for a long time using nothing but baby wipes and deodorant. She could do it too. A shower is a LUXURY, but our spoiled society doesn't see it.
#51 Consumer Suggestion
FEMA taken advantage of
AUTHOR: Nina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 10, 2006
I live in Port Charlotte where Hurricane Charley made landfall in August 2004. We are facing the the challenge of STILL trying to get the FEMA trailers out and these deadbeats to get out on their own. They HAVE NOT PAID RENT since November 2004. They are now complaining they have no place to go after all this time. Even though we are on a much smaller scale than Katrina, Charley took out power, phone and water for a month. Our county is still unrepaired.
We have lost half our homes and over a hundred commercial properties. THAT CREATED JOBS. Construction mostly. We do not have the man power still to fill these jobs. Yet the FEMA park is filled in the middle of the day with welfare cases sitting around doing NOTHING. FEMA gave money to these people also CASH. They have really nice cars parked in front of these trailers. With the amount of time these people have been rent free they have had enough time to save up a down payment to BUY a house. FEMA now started to charge rent in the past month, under 250.00 for most of them, now they are complaining.
I am not going to tell anyone that people didn't need help after Katrina, Charley or any of this. The financial strain 1200 trailers and occupants in this county is nothing to the taxpayers woes in New Orleans and surrounding areas. Some, yes want back to work, my husband and I were back to work in a week. No schools to send the kids, daycares were full, we pulled together and took turns watching the kids. Was it easy, it sucked. 90 degree plus weather half a roof over our heads, travel two hours for grocerys and gas, then home to cook on a bbq,again. We people who made it through these Hurricanes and flooding did it. WHY? We paid our insurance, we worked overtime, all without power, water etc. Meanwhile FEMA was supporting most of the dregs of this area. The most arrests we have in this county in IN THE FEMA PARK. Again before anyone goes there, I don't have a problem helping anyone who helps themselves and were self supporting BEFORE the Hurricanes.
#50 Consumer Comment
Don't be afraid
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 10, 2006
"im afraid robert is mostly correct,"
Don't be afraid. It feels good, you know how it is.
The people who worked before, work still. Those who didn't still don't.
#49 Consumer Comment
this was a goverment winfall - roberts right
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 09, 2006
im afraid robert is mostly correct, i lived and worked in new orleans for 8 years and when that hurricane hit, most of the welfare people couldnt beleive their luck! this was a goverment winfall for most of them and they knew it, the only ones who dont agree with me are the hard working ones who lost everything and will have to work to get back on their feet, the others dont have e-mail, when i went down after the storm, you could see the glee in the beggars eyes as heres another freebee, im not joking, i feel sorry for the people who lost everything but you also know there will be bums looking for more handouts that dont deserve it, their life will actually be better now and the bums and hardworkers will be lumped together which is not fair
#48 Consumer Comment
May not be factual
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 28, 2006
Wikipedia is a continuing project with input from anyone and everyone. As long as the information is not blatantly false(Bush caused Katrina), then it will be included in the section you edit yourself.
Any "facts" you get from that source must be scrutinized and verified by other sources as well.
#47 Consumer Comment
Kami
AUTHOR: Lori - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 28, 2006
I'm really not sure where I got my facts facts from considering it was DECEMBER when I posted that.
However, I went to the wikipedia page you spoke of and, low and behold, if you scroll down to actions taken before Katrina, it says the exact same thing.
So, I'm a little confused as to which facts you speak of.
#46 Consumer Comment
Cheating at the Blame Game
AUTHOR: Kami - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 21, 2006
FEMA is NOT the enemy. Talk to Stupid and Stupidier AKA: Blanco and Nagin .
#45 Consumer Comment
I am also from Louisiana
AUTHOR: Robin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 18, 2006
I lived less than 10 minutes from NOLA and had a little less than a foot of water in my home, however, by the time we were allowed to go back - 3 weeks after Katrina - the mold had spread to my ceilings and covered practically everything we owned. All of our furniture, my childrens' toys & books, and all of our applianced were ruined.
We had to find a place out of state for the five of us to live. Both my husband and myself lost our jobs. His office was in Chalmette. We didn't have any savings. We were screwed.
FEMA is a joke. They gave everyone who *claimed* they lived in the areas hit by Katrina an intial $2k. People were caught buying all sorts of crap with this money - things that were NOT necessities. If you had insurance, FEMA didn't give you anymore unless you could prove you needed rental assistance. For those, they were given $2300, which was supposed to cover 6 MONTHS of living expenses. LMFAO - Our rent was $1,300 per month!!!
FEMA doesn't help if you have insurance - you know, that thing you PAY for yourself to protect your home and belongings - but the insurance company didn't even pay the claims until FEBRUARY 2006 - that is 6 months with NO help!
We are blessed to have family and friends that helped us through this horrible ordeal.
How is it that people who lived in the projects or Section 8 apartments got to stay in hotels for FREE for 6 months, get Habitat for Humanity houses built for them, and get to collect money from the government, when those like myself and my husband who worked their asses off their entire lives to afford a home, to afford nice things for their children, to afford to pay for insurance don't get anything?
I even tried to apply for a grant for assistance with utilities. I applied in September, and JUST got a letter last week awarding me a whopping $500 to pay for my electricity. I am thankful, but c'mon, where the hell was the "help" when we really needed it???
#44 Consumer Comment
I am also from Louisiana
AUTHOR: Robin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 18, 2006
I lived less than 10 minutes from NOLA and had a little less than a foot of water in my home, however, by the time we were allowed to go back - 3 weeks after Katrina - the mold had spread to my ceilings and covered practically everything we owned. All of our furniture, my childrens' toys & books, and all of our applianced were ruined.
We had to find a place out of state for the five of us to live. Both my husband and myself lost our jobs. His office was in Chalmette. We didn't have any savings. We were screwed.
FEMA is a joke. They gave everyone who *claimed* they lived in the areas hit by Katrina an intial $2k. People were caught buying all sorts of crap with this money - things that were NOT necessities. If you had insurance, FEMA didn't give you anymore unless you could prove you needed rental assistance. For those, they were given $2300, which was supposed to cover 6 MONTHS of living expenses. LMFAO - Our rent was $1,300 per month!!!
FEMA doesn't help if you have insurance - you know, that thing you PAY for yourself to protect your home and belongings - but the insurance company didn't even pay the claims until FEBRUARY 2006 - that is 6 months with NO help!
We are blessed to have family and friends that helped us through this horrible ordeal.
How is it that people who lived in the projects or Section 8 apartments got to stay in hotels for FREE for 6 months, get Habitat for Humanity houses built for them, and get to collect money from the government, when those like myself and my husband who worked their asses off their entire lives to afford a home, to afford nice things for their children, to afford to pay for insurance don't get anything?
I even tried to apply for a grant for assistance with utilities. I applied in September, and JUST got a letter last week awarding me a whopping $500 to pay for my electricity. I am thankful, but c'mon, where the hell was the "help" when we really needed it???
#43 Consumer Comment
I am also from Louisiana
AUTHOR: Robin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 18, 2006
I lived less than 10 minutes from NOLA and had a little less than a foot of water in my home, however, by the time we were allowed to go back - 3 weeks after Katrina - the mold had spread to my ceilings and covered practically everything we owned. All of our furniture, my childrens' toys & books, and all of our applianced were ruined.
We had to find a place out of state for the five of us to live. Both my husband and myself lost our jobs. His office was in Chalmette. We didn't have any savings. We were screwed.
FEMA is a joke. They gave everyone who *claimed* they lived in the areas hit by Katrina an intial $2k. People were caught buying all sorts of crap with this money - things that were NOT necessities. If you had insurance, FEMA didn't give you anymore unless you could prove you needed rental assistance. For those, they were given $2300, which was supposed to cover 6 MONTHS of living expenses. LMFAO - Our rent was $1,300 per month!!!
FEMA doesn't help if you have insurance - you know, that thing you PAY for yourself to protect your home and belongings - but the insurance company didn't even pay the claims until FEBRUARY 2006 - that is 6 months with NO help!
We are blessed to have family and friends that helped us through this horrible ordeal.
How is it that people who lived in the projects or Section 8 apartments got to stay in hotels for FREE for 6 months, get Habitat for Humanity houses built for them, and get to collect money from the government, when those like myself and my husband who worked their asses off their entire lives to afford a home, to afford nice things for their children, to afford to pay for insurance don't get anything?
I even tried to apply for a grant for assistance with utilities. I applied in September, and JUST got a letter last week awarding me a whopping $500 to pay for my electricity. I am thankful, but c'mon, where the hell was the "help" when we really needed it???
#42 Consumer Comment
I am also from Louisiana
AUTHOR: Robin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 18, 2006
I lived less than 10 minutes from NOLA and had a little less than a foot of water in my home, however, by the time we were allowed to go back - 3 weeks after Katrina - the mold had spread to my ceilings and covered practically everything we owned. All of our furniture, my childrens' toys & books, and all of our applianced were ruined.
We had to find a place out of state for the five of us to live. Both my husband and myself lost our jobs. His office was in Chalmette. We didn't have any savings. We were screwed.
FEMA is a joke. They gave everyone who *claimed* they lived in the areas hit by Katrina an intial $2k. People were caught buying all sorts of crap with this money - things that were NOT necessities. If you had insurance, FEMA didn't give you anymore unless you could prove you needed rental assistance. For those, they were given $2300, which was supposed to cover 6 MONTHS of living expenses. LMFAO - Our rent was $1,300 per month!!!
FEMA doesn't help if you have insurance - you know, that thing you PAY for yourself to protect your home and belongings - but the insurance company didn't even pay the claims until FEBRUARY 2006 - that is 6 months with NO help!
We are blessed to have family and friends that helped us through this horrible ordeal.
How is it that people who lived in the projects or Section 8 apartments got to stay in hotels for FREE for 6 months, get Habitat for Humanity houses built for them, and get to collect money from the government, when those like myself and my husband who worked their asses off their entire lives to afford a home, to afford nice things for their children, to afford to pay for insurance don't get anything?
I even tried to apply for a grant for assistance with utilities. I applied in September, and JUST got a letter last week awarding me a whopping $500 to pay for my electricity. I am thankful, but c'mon, where the hell was the "help" when we really needed it???
#41 Consumer Suggestion
Lori - I "extensive" research is obtuse
AUTHOR: Kami - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 12, 2006
Lori, it would be rather helpful if you could provide an ounce of truth to what you post.
No one, including me believes that just because you say After doing some extensive research myself, I found some interesting facts.
Those are the facts in your mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Blanco
Now Lori, just so we can make sure you understand exactly what you're seeing here and that, indeed, these are facts, you should make every effort to look up the big words on a simple online, easy to use dictionary. Also, the BLUE TEXT ( which can be called WORDS too) are actual links to the statements being made to PROVE that Wikipedia encyclopedia is not saying whatever they like for a personal agenda (self serving) or for a good case of the giggles.
Be open-minded, but not so open-minded that your brains fall out. ~Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
#40 Consumer Suggestion
New Orleans vs Louisiana
AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
My wife and I decided to see for ourselves what was going on in New Orleans. We live in nearby Lafayette where many victims have relocated.
We were stunned to see the devastation in New Orleans. We were, however, delighted to see that such a large section of the city is still active. Restaurants, shops, stores, etc, are open, albeit a little crowded. There were a few signs of rebuilding, but for the most part, even the nicest parts of town were wasted with no sign of reconstruction underway. Then, we traveled to southern Vermilion Parish where the Intracostal City area was flooded a few weeks after Katrina by Rita. The devastation was worse. Where there was rubble in New Orleans, this area only had slabs where homes once stood. The thing that set these people apart from the whiners in New Orleans is that there were obvious signs of reconstruction on nearly every home, store and business. I was pleased to see that the people of Louisiana are trying to rebuild, and that outside New Orleans, it can truly be said that we're not looking for handouts!
#39 Consumer Suggestion
New Orleans vs Louisiana
AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
My wife and I decided to see for ourselves what was going on in New Orleans. We live in nearby Lafayette where many victims have relocated.
We were stunned to see the devastation in New Orleans. We were, however, delighted to see that such a large section of the city is still active. Restaurants, shops, stores, etc, are open, albeit a little crowded. There were a few signs of rebuilding, but for the most part, even the nicest parts of town were wasted with no sign of reconstruction underway. Then, we traveled to southern Vermilion Parish where the Intracostal City area was flooded a few weeks after Katrina by Rita. The devastation was worse. Where there was rubble in New Orleans, this area only had slabs where homes once stood. The thing that set these people apart from the whiners in New Orleans is that there were obvious signs of reconstruction on nearly every home, store and business. I was pleased to see that the people of Louisiana are trying to rebuild, and that outside New Orleans, it can truly be said that we're not looking for handouts!
#38 Consumer Suggestion
New Orleans vs Louisiana
AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
My wife and I decided to see for ourselves what was going on in New Orleans. We live in nearby Lafayette where many victims have relocated.
We were stunned to see the devastation in New Orleans. We were, however, delighted to see that such a large section of the city is still active. Restaurants, shops, stores, etc, are open, albeit a little crowded. There were a few signs of rebuilding, but for the most part, even the nicest parts of town were wasted with no sign of reconstruction underway. Then, we traveled to southern Vermilion Parish where the Intracostal City area was flooded a few weeks after Katrina by Rita. The devastation was worse. Where there was rubble in New Orleans, this area only had slabs where homes once stood. The thing that set these people apart from the whiners in New Orleans is that there were obvious signs of reconstruction on nearly every home, store and business. I was pleased to see that the people of Louisiana are trying to rebuild, and that outside New Orleans, it can truly be said that we're not looking for handouts!
#37 Consumer Suggestion
New Orleans vs Louisiana
AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
My wife and I decided to see for ourselves what was going on in New Orleans. We live in nearby Lafayette where many victims have relocated.
We were stunned to see the devastation in New Orleans. We were, however, delighted to see that such a large section of the city is still active. Restaurants, shops, stores, etc, are open, albeit a little crowded. There were a few signs of rebuilding, but for the most part, even the nicest parts of town were wasted with no sign of reconstruction underway. Then, we traveled to southern Vermilion Parish where the Intracostal City area was flooded a few weeks after Katrina by Rita. The devastation was worse. Where there was rubble in New Orleans, this area only had slabs where homes once stood. The thing that set these people apart from the whiners in New Orleans is that there were obvious signs of reconstruction on nearly every home, store and business. I was pleased to see that the people of Louisiana are trying to rebuild, and that outside New Orleans, it can truly be said that we're not looking for handouts!
#36 Consumer Comment
I shall quote for/from you Richard
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 31, 2005
"I lived in St. Bernard Parish and lost everything I own in Katrina. I had homeowners and flood insurance, which I was required to buy when I bought my house in 2004. Only got a pittance from homeowners because they said the damage was all flood. Flood insurance paid the policy limits, but it's not enough to pay off the mortage.
There won't be utility service for months, so I'm stuck with a mortgae on a lot that is essentially worthless.
The mortgage company won't even apply the flood settlement to the principal unless I come up with enough to pay the entire loan off.
Long story short, I'm paying rent on the place we're living in plus a mortgage on a worthless piece of property, and I have a check for $97,000 I can't do anything with.
Am I looking for some help from FEMA? Darn right I am!
p.s. I only missed a week of work though all that."
Excellent post. You paid for insurance and the insurance companies paid exactly what they were supposed to according to the coverage you had. They did their job to the extent that you had coverage.
The insurance checks should be used to repair the home, not pay it off. Anything that is not covered, is your responsibility. This is called "Life"...goes back to that lemons/lemonade thing.
As for being out of work for a week, that is the norm for everyone who actually worked for a living prior to the storm. People who work for a living always will, people who WON'T, never will.
Good luck getting the place fixed up. Please consider moving to a location ABOVE the water.
#35 Consumer Comment
No Disrespect Intended Richard!!
AUTHOR: Judy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2005
To Richard,
My post was not meant to place everyone in the same category & I meant no disrespect to anyone in your same situation.
It sounds like you did everything humanly possible to prepare for the worst and are not sitting on your backside hollering at the government for not providing for you better.
I only meant to stress the point of quite a few involved, looking for free money from the government or any outlet they can get it. In your situation, assistance from FEMA would be a hand-up not a hand-out. A big difference!!
My heart & prayers go out to you and your family.
Most Sincerely,
#34 Consumer Comment
No Disrespect Intended Richard!!
AUTHOR: Judy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2005
To Richard,
My post was not meant to place everyone in the same category & I meant no disrespect to anyone in your same situation.
It sounds like you did everything humanly possible to prepare for the worst and are not sitting on your backside hollering at the government for not providing for you better.
I only meant to stress the point of quite a few involved, looking for free money from the government or any outlet they can get it. In your situation, assistance from FEMA would be a hand-up not a hand-out. A big difference!!
My heart & prayers go out to you and your family.
Most Sincerely,
#33 Consumer Comment
No Disrespect Intended Richard!!
AUTHOR: Judy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2005
To Richard,
My post was not meant to place everyone in the same category & I meant no disrespect to anyone in your same situation.
It sounds like you did everything humanly possible to prepare for the worst and are not sitting on your backside hollering at the government for not providing for you better.
I only meant to stress the point of quite a few involved, looking for free money from the government or any outlet they can get it. In your situation, assistance from FEMA would be a hand-up not a hand-out. A big difference!!
My heart & prayers go out to you and your family.
Most Sincerely,
#32 Consumer Comment
No Disrespect Intended Richard!!
AUTHOR: Judy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2005
To Richard,
My post was not meant to place everyone in the same category & I meant no disrespect to anyone in your same situation.
It sounds like you did everything humanly possible to prepare for the worst and are not sitting on your backside hollering at the government for not providing for you better.
I only meant to stress the point of quite a few involved, looking for free money from the government or any outlet they can get it. In your situation, assistance from FEMA would be a hand-up not a hand-out. A big difference!!
My heart & prayers go out to you and your family.
Most Sincerely,
#31 Consumer Comment
My $.02
AUTHOR: Richard - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2005
I lived in St. Bernard Parish and lost everything I own in Katrina. I had homeowners and flood insurance, which I was required to buy when I bought my house in 2004. Only got a pittance from homeowners because they said the damage was all flood. Flood insurance paid the policy limits, but it's not enough to pay off the mortage.
There won't be utility service for months, so I'm stuck with a mortgae on a lot that is essentially worthless.
The mortgage company won't even apply the flood settlement to the principal unless I come up with enough to pay the entire loan off.
Long story short, I'm paying rent on the place we're living in plus a mortgage on a worthless piece of property, and I have a check for $97,000 I can't do anything with.
Am I looking for some help from FEMA? Darn right I am!
p.s. I only missed a week of work though all that.
#30 Consumer Comment
Robert, Lori, Pete, Judy, and others . . .
AUTHOR: Shawn - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2005
I don't mean to intrude, but while perusing this thread I couldn't help but to think that one of my recent posts from another thread would "fit" this one to a "T".
If interested, please feel free to have a read on thread https://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=165478
I believe I posted it on the 28th(Dec) and it was titled: "Not directed at anyone in particular, but, just a thought . . .".
I do believe that I have supported my opinions quite well on the matter and I hope that you enjoy the read . . . it's not often that the topic of "Democrat demogoguery" and its effects in the creation of a "victim" society. Whether you read it or not, I hope you had a wonderful Christmas (Santa brought me more pwer tools! lol) and that you have a memorable New Year's Eve . . . remember, don't drink and drive, please!
May God Bless You and the U.S.A.
#29 Consumer Comment
Robert, Lori, Pete, Judy, and others . . .
AUTHOR: Shawn - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2005
I don't mean to intrude, but while perusing this thread I couldn't help but to think that one of my recent posts from another thread would "fit" this one to a "T".
If interested, please feel free to have a read on thread https://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=165478
I believe I posted it on the 28th(Dec) and it was titled: "Not directed at anyone in particular, but, just a thought . . .".
I do believe that I have supported my opinions quite well on the matter and I hope that you enjoy the read . . . it's not often that the topic of "Democrat demogoguery" and its effects in the creation of a "victim" society. Whether you read it or not, I hope you had a wonderful Christmas (Santa brought me more pwer tools! lol) and that you have a memorable New Year's Eve . . . remember, don't drink and drive, please!
May God Bless You and the U.S.A.
#28 Consumer Comment
Robert, Lori, Pete, Judy, and others . . .
AUTHOR: Shawn - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2005
I don't mean to intrude, but while perusing this thread I couldn't help but to think that one of my recent posts from another thread would "fit" this one to a "T".
If interested, please feel free to have a read on thread https://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=165478
I believe I posted it on the 28th(Dec) and it was titled: "Not directed at anyone in particular, but, just a thought . . .".
I do believe that I have supported my opinions quite well on the matter and I hope that you enjoy the read . . . it's not often that the topic of "Democrat demogoguery" and its effects in the creation of a "victim" society. Whether you read it or not, I hope you had a wonderful Christmas (Santa brought me more pwer tools! lol) and that you have a memorable New Year's Eve . . . remember, don't drink and drive, please!
May God Bless You and the U.S.A.
#27 Consumer Comment
Robert, Lori, Pete, Judy, and others . . .
AUTHOR: Shawn - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 30, 2005
I don't mean to intrude, but while perusing this thread I couldn't help but to think that one of my recent posts from another thread would "fit" this one to a "T".
If interested, please feel free to have a read on thread https://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=165478
I believe I posted it on the 28th(Dec) and it was titled: "Not directed at anyone in particular, but, just a thought . . .".
I do believe that I have supported my opinions quite well on the matter and I hope that you enjoy the read . . . it's not often that the topic of "Democrat demogoguery" and its effects in the creation of a "victim" society. Whether you read it or not, I hope you had a wonderful Christmas (Santa brought me more pwer tools! lol) and that you have a memorable New Year's Eve . . . remember, don't drink and drive, please!
May God Bless You and the U.S.A.
#26 Consumer Comment
Heartless??? I Think Not!!
AUTHOR: Judy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 29, 2005
I don't usually put my 2 cents in, however, this time I couldn't pass up this opportunity.
I've read all of the entries for this, & believe Robert?, has just voiced his opinion, & he's not the only individual that has these feelings.
I have first hand knowledge of some residents in the State of Louisiana, & have some knowledge of their lifestyle. Our oldest son, from hubby's first marriage, graced us with his wives from Louisiana. Once wasn't enough.
Both of these ex-wives, with whom he has children, reside in Louisiana, so the Grandchildren are there. Neither of the wives work, didn't graduate high school, both drop-outs, & won't try to improve their status.
The first wife, I think is the winner of the award for Sorryness. Her situation is this... she receives $800 child support every month, our youngest grandson, by her, is Autistic, so she draws a $550 disability check, every month, from the State. She was remarried about 5 years ago, & drew $500 worth of Food Stamps, every month, until our son chose to have the Child support paid through the Courts. Her present husband was making approx. $1000 for his job, he began truck driving about 6 months ago, so I'm not sure of his income now. The clincher of all of this is, she has the mitigated gall to gripe & complain because the State won't allow her to draw Food Stamps anymore. Can you imagine that????
You do the math, for her to sit on her backside & do nothing, she had an easy $2850 per month for income, which dropped by $550, when she was found out, & the State stopped the Food Stamps.
Another example for you, when Rita went through, she & the grandkids were in harm's way, so we told her she & the kids could come to our home for safety, it's about a 13 drive. She said she didn't have any money to come, so her parents would have to come also, because her daddy had the money for gas. We said okay, then came the dog, I have cats, that didn't mix well. The dog was to remain out in the Air Conditioned Travel Trailer, but it didn't work out that way.
Her daddy told my hubby within 3 hours of their arival that her grandfather lived about 100 North of I-10, & they could have gone to his house. Then, he went on to say that his father-in-law, was drawing around $950 per month, for disability. The kicker is they found Oil on his property & he's receivng $3000 per month for Oil Royalities.
Now, you tell me, can you REALLY feel sorry for Everyone in Louisiana????? I can't!!!
I believe myself to be a kind & compassionate person, but this is something I can't, not get upset about.
I had to purchase additional groceries for this family. When they got ready to leave, they wanted me to give them money to go back home on. I didn't have it, I was going to take take her to the local Red Cross, but was informed they had enough money to make it home on Monday. Sunday afternoon, I discovered where they got their money. They stole about $200 from me, this was money I intended to use to pay my power bill.
Again, do you feel sorry for them all??? I don't!! Boo-h*o, cry me a river!!
Some of the Louisianans relocated to my hometown & have been staying in the local hotels. FEMA extended their time until the first of the year. There are some houses that have been remodeled & they're waiting on the keys. Free Homes, FEMA is going to absorb their power, gas, etc. for the next year. They will have it better now then they had living in Louisiana, & they still get to draw their monthly checks from the Government, just a different state.
I work & can't afford to get sick, I can't afford the doctor bills, but I see something like this & I get really ticked off. I have disabilities but work to have better, which is average, than what some people are willing to accept in life. I deal with pain every day of my life.
Oh yeah, the Charity hospital that is closing, is just what it says in the name. The ex- daughter-in-laws won't leave Louisiana, because they have all the FREE medical care they want.
Nagen had 20 years of warning about the potential disaster of the flooding, they knew 5 days in advance that Katrina was on the way. I remember the views of all the school buses under water. Why weren't those buses used to evacuate all of those people ahead of time? This was nothing short of a cleansing of the city, to be rid of the poor, no matter what their skin color. No matter their ages or health.
I believe that Mayor Nagen & Gov. Bianco should be held responsible for the senseless loss of life, they DIDN'T do THEIR job. FEMA & Pres. Bush are just easier targets.
If these people REALLY want money & places to live, they will take ANY job they can get, TWO if need be. After all, most of the residents were evacuated to other cities across the country. They're not stuck in NEW ORLEANS, with no water to drink or bath in. Those that are, chose to remain behind, even refused to leave.
In closing, we live the way that we choose, for the most part. So get a job & quit trying to blame everyone else. There has been plenty of help and support sent to the area, I know this to be factual, as well. A good bit of this help and support was turned away, for various reasons. So, I can't feel sorry for everyone of these people. You have to live in the Southeast portion of this country to truly understand the circumstances & lifestyles. It can be difficult to understand if you don't live here, in the Deep South.
Most Respectfully Stated....
#25 Consumer Comment
Question for Lori...
AUTHOR: Pete - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 29, 2005
'If it is cash benefits, they are required (since welfare reform) to attend classes to help them find gainful employment. No classes, no check. They, also can only collect this check for five years, then the benefit runs out.'
Where do I sign up? I'll gladly go to classes for five years to collect money from the taxpayers!
#24 Consumer Comment
You got that right.
AUTHOR: Lori - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 29, 2005
Governor Blanco didn't request help from FEMA. She contacted Bush asking for federal assistance. But that is beside the point.
I just don't understand people living below sea level and not having flood insurance. That would be like me living here in Oklahoma and not having insurance that covered tornado damage. It's called being a responsible home owner.
#23 Consumer Comment
Entitled???? This is the problem!
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 28, 2005
NOBODY is "entitled" to having the taxpayers bail you out, for ANYTHING short of National Defense. I have a house near the ocean in NC. It has been hit by every Hurricane since being built in 1986. I have gotten $$ZERO$$ in assistance from anyone, other than the insurance companies who covered my property. I paid for that coverage, therefore, I was "entitled" to it.
Tell me Gary, how much did you pay for the coverage on your house that you think you are "entitled" to, from the taxpayers? Nothing? Exactly. I am guessing you also failed to prepare by paying for Federal Fllod Insurance...something anyone with a fuctioning stem would do, if they lived 12 feet below sea level.
Everything else that has happened to you is called "Life". Everyone has bad things happen to them. The difference is simple and direct. Derelicts sit around waiting for everyone else to bail them out. The innovative just get going and do it themselves.
You say Blanco asked for FEMA before the hurricane hit. Did not happen. How exactly is she going to fill out the paperwork stating the assistance required, BEFORE the need is known? Anyway, the Mayor did not bother to request the aid, and THAT is what counts. FEMA cannot just move into New Orleans without the local authorities requsting the help. We have laws against the Feds doing things like that.
Time to grow up Gary. MOVE to another location and start anew. I did it, you can too.
#22 Consumer Comment
So all the New Orleans people want work, eh?
AUTHOR: Marc - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 28, 2005
The people that are likely to work have gone back to work. That leaves the segment that didn't work, won't work, never did work, doesn't plan on working. Just like before the hurricane. They can't get money from FEMA because they didn't own anything in the first place, unless the twenty-year-old Cadillac up on blocks in their front yard was worth something. Their section eight rental wasn't "their home" either. Like the man said, "The best place to hide the welfare check is under their work boots."
#21 Consumer Comment
I have lived in NOLA all my life
AUTHOR: Gary - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 26, 2005
Robert you too miss the point. I have worked all my life in New Orleans, primarily for one local hosptial for 32 years. I was laid off, with no severance or thank you. I have filed for food stamps, Red Cross assitance, unemployement and FEMA assistance. I would never have thought that I would have had to file for all of these benefits, but I did. I have paid taxes for all of these years, and I feel I am entitled. I have had four additional family members living in my house since we returned from being evacuated. My wife has also lost her job in insurance, since all of the insurance companies are no longer writing insurance.
Yes, there are many jobs available in New Orleans, but the good paying professional jobs are not in existence. I cannot maintain my lifestyle on flipping burgers. Neither can I immediately change my lifestyle. I can't even sell my house, because it is not insurable. But I can live in it and I have to pay the mortgage. I am starting to go into my 401K retirement.
Every city has dangers from natural disasters. Mayabe no one should live in Califirnia because of earth quakes, or up north because of snow, or in Oklahoma because of tornadoes, or in the Mississippi delta because of flooding, or Florida or any coastal town because of hurricaines. What happened to New Orleans should never have happened. The incompetent federal government and the Corps of Engineers used a faulty design to protect the city. The Corps should be fired and not allowed to design the real solution. Coastal erosion was also a primary reason for flooding in south east LA. Coastel erosion is primarly due to the gas pipe lines that come from offshore to supply everyone else with oil and natural gas. Maybe we should abondon New Orleans and shut that down also. While we are at it we can shut down the Port of New Orleans also.
New Orleans was not open for business in two weeks. The French Quarter was open, but the only ones there were the locals that stayed. The majority of the rest of the city has no one living in it.
Most of the workers that are working on recovery are from out of state because that is how the federal government has awarded the contracts to. These people have not come to "help with recovery" but to capitalize on the unfortunate.
I do not see how someone could think that the government blew the levees to save the Quarter. The geography of New Orleans shows that the Quarter and the Uptown area are the highest in the city. Flooding is not a black/white or class issue, it is water seeking it's own level issue.
I was not allowed to return to my home for three weeks and others who lived in New Orleans were not allowed to return for six weeks or longer.
New Orleans did an amazing job of evacuating 80% of the city. Those who stayed did not have the means to evacuate. Those who were stuck int the Dome and the Convention Center were abandoned by FEMA. They were okay for 3 days and help shoudl have been there by them, but it wasn't. The left behind citizens were let down by goverment at all levels. New Orleans ocntinues to be let down by government at all levels.
#20 Consumer Comment
check this out ...Governor Blanco actually requested federal aid two days before Katrina hit. Bush declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered federal aid on Aug. 26, 2005
AUTHOR: Lori - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 21, 2005
After doing some extensive research myself, I found some interesting facts.
Governor Blanco actually requested federal aid two days before Katrina hit. Bush declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered federal aid on Aug. 26, 2005 and continuing. The Presidents action authorizes FEMA to coordinate all disaster relief efforts under Title V of the Stafford Act. Yet FEMA sat back and did nothing for these people.
There are actually 21,000 people receiving welfare in Louisiana today compared to 70,000 in '96. 40-60% of those leaving welfare to work average below poverty wages, earning about $10,500 per year and are receiving food stamps and federal child care subsidies.
Like I said working poor receiving benefits!!!
#19 Consumer Comment
To Robert
AUTHOR: Lori - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 19, 2005
I asked you to show me your proof and I still don't see it so there for, I have to assume that it is the latter of the two, the working poor receiving food stamps.
Once again you have twisted my words, I didn't say he couldn't do his job, I said the idiots were making it difficult.
Let me explain something about viruses and bacterial infections. It takes seven days after you are actually exposed to the virus or bacteria to actually manifest symptoms so, there for, he wasn't sick before he left. That's why he didn't seek medical attention at that time.
How does FEMA expect these people to leave? If they had vehicles, they were destroyed. Without money, you can't hop on a Greyhound. I agree, they do need to leave because of the long term health affects of the toxic environment. Louisiana needs to put big signs at all exits to the state, "Will the last person to leave, please turn out the lights!!" lol
Congratulations!! You actually helped one person in your life!! I'm proud of you!!
#18 Consumer Comment
Mayor Nagin doesn't dispute the numbers Lori...
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 18, 2005
Why do you. As for the rest of your diatribe, I'll ignore most of it.
You said in an earlier post that your husband couldn't even do his job there. Now you say he could. Try and keep the story straight.
As for "welfare reform" making people get jobs...fat chance. I had one work for me once. She actually told me she would only work up to a certain amount of income, then stop earning. She did this so her "benefits" wouldn't go down. What about MY benefits of getting her to work more? Needless to say, I ignored her needs and gave her as much work as she could physically handle. Her total income tripled. No more welfare checks. She found she could support herself and her two kids. She discovered pride in herself and we remain good friends to this day. Very few employers are like me. Most would have booted her out the door when she told me her "needs". I did not. I taught her to be self sufficient. And you want to call me heartless. "Teach a man to fish" as they say.
The record speaks for itself. Most of the "welfare workers" go back to full "benefits" within 2 years. This is because people who work, always will...People who WON'T, never will. Mayor Nagin doesn't dispute ANY of the numbers concerning his city. So sad. Ask Houston how they are enjoying these derelicts they got.
As for where the people should live...FEMA itself has answered that question. FEMA has repeatedly told them to LEAVE, or stay away. Only a dumbass would want to live 12 feet below sea level next to the Gulf. Only the truly stupid would try to stay after the inevitable happened.
I live above the ocean for a reason...less chance of drowning in my house.
Why didn't your husband get medical care in New Orleans if that is where he got sick?
One last thing. If these people can all get on a bus for the Million Man March, why couldn't they get on one to escape Katrina?
#17 Consumer Comment
That is NOT what "general welfare" means
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 18, 2005
1. The 4 principal reasons why a federal government was formed: "(1) The common defense (national security); (2) the preservation of public peace, as well against internal convulsions as external attacks; (3) the regulation of commerce with other nations and between states; (4) the superintendence of our intercourse, political and commercial, with foreign countries (foreign affairs)." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper No.23
2. Above in more detail: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." - James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 25
3. "With respect to the words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." - James Madison - 'father of the Constitution.
The term "general welfare" simply means the Federal Government is there to PROTECT the citizens. The reason those payments to the derelicts are called "Welfare" is because Johnson's "Great Society" and "War on Poverty" called them that, and twisted that term into meaning 'a monthly check for doing nothing'.
This all goes back to the vast majority of Americans who think they live in a Democracy. You DON'T! The word Democracy never appears even once in the Declaration of Independence, or the US Constitution. It also never appears in any of the 50 State Constituitions.
While it may be nice to use Federal taxpayer monies to help everyone, foreign and domestic, it is NOT allowable according to a strict interpretation of the Constitution. Man, are you people going to be in for a rude awakening if the Supreme Court EVER gets a majority on it who understand this. This is the reason the Liberals fight so hard to keep them off the bench. No "welfare", means half the Democrat Party base is gone. People who earn money tend to vote to keep it.
#16 Consumer Comment
Robert, I agree with you 100% -to all the LAZY ASSES go back to New Orleans and get a job helping rebuild your community.
AUTHOR: Tom - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 18, 2005
Robert you are absolutley right on with your observations & comments. As a person living in the Dallas/Ft Worth area where a lot of these low lifes are. All I have to say is "GO HOME, YOU HAVE WORN OUT YOUR WELCOME !!!!" The ones who have found jobs & housing are not the problems. Now it is all the LAZY ASSES that want everything for nothing. We dont need you nor do we want you. I am so sick of hearing all the pitiful pleas about them. Hey, go back to New Orleans and get a job helping rebuild your community. But oh, wait a minute, YOU ARE A LAZY a*s.
#15 Consumer Comment
To Robert
AUTHOR: Lori - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 18, 2005
So now you are calling my husband a liar?! Why, because he has been there and seen the bullshit for himself? Do you know that 90% of all structures in New Orleans are infested with mold, yet FEMA wants people to find a place to live? Where do YOU suggest they live? Would You live in a place infested with mold? When he returned from his last stint down there, I had to take him to the hospital because he couldn't breath. He had severe bronchitis due to the toxic air in Louisiana, it is full of mold spores!! In St. Bernard Parish the ground is still contanimated with human feces knee deep!! Would YOU live in a place like that? Of course you wouldn't but, you would expect these so called dregs of society to!!!
Mark my words, the next thing we will be hearing is that the state of Louisiana is on the EPA super fund cleanup list. It will be no different than Love Canal. But yet, people are expected to live in this crap!!!
As for the 48% on welfare, show me your proof!! I would like to read these articles for myself. I would really like to know what benefits these people are receiving from welfare. Is it cash benefits or food stamps?
If it is cash benefits, they are required (since welfare reform) to attend classes to help them find gainful employment. No classes, no check. They, also can only collect this check for five years, then the benefit runs out.
Or, are they amongst the working poor collecting food stamps? The cost of living in New Orleans is very high yet, the wages are very low. If this is the case, what the hell are you bitching about? People have to eat to live!!!
Yesterday I read on WWL tv's website that Charity Hospital on LSU's campus will be closing it doors soon. They need $155 million just to keep their doors open. Another 2500 out of work! If you were a medical professional would you take a job at McDonalds? You would get that age old "over qualified" bullshit!!!
So Robert, show me your proof. As far as licking your nuts goes, if you have some, give them back because they sure has hell ain't yours!!!!!!
#14 Consumer Comment
Constitutiional
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 18, 2005
The preamble to the Constution states:
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Article 1, section 8 states in part:
The Congress shall have power .... To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
The Constitution establishes a government that is responsible for taking care of its people. The governments role in promoting the "general welfare" is to assure that ALL citizens, even the lazy ones who will not work, are cared for. The development of programs to carry this out is well within the perview of the government and this includes any welfare program that they have developed.
Now, that said, I do not agree with the welfare programs in place now. Too many people are not working that should be. As for the Katrina victims... New Orleans should not be rebuilt BECUASE its below sea level. How many times should my tax money rebuild a place because people are to stupid to move from a flood plain?
#13 Consumer Comment
I got a letter today... what's left of Biloxi...the place the Hurricane actually HIT!
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005
It was from one of my cousins in what's left of Biloxi...the place the Hurricane actually HIT! One of them still has about 100 trees laying all over the place(she had no trees before the storm) and another still has a plastic tarp for a roof on her house. The other two are fine. Those two got time off from their jobs to get things back in order.
As Lori said, we're talking "apples and oranges". Right. New Orleans was populated by bums and derelicts(48%) while Biloxi was populated by people who worked for a living. New Orleans was flooded, then drained and open for business within two weeks. Biloxi was wiped off the map. New Orleans and Louisianna are run by left wing Democrats, while Biloxi and Mississippi are not. People in New Orleans chose to live 12 feet below sea level, while people in Biloxi knew better. I could go on, but the differences are as clear as can be.
Anyone remember Hurricane Floyd? The people in eastern NC are still dealing with the environmental damage from that one. My house in NC has been hit with a dozen Hurricanes. I have recieved ZERO in federal money(as it should be) and have asked for none.
As for being without work, boohoo! When the Marines went to war, the economy in my town disappeared overnight. I held out for 6 months. After that, I decided it was time to move on, so I packed up and headed for greener pastures. This is what we call "being responsible". As I said before, people who work, always will. People who WON'T, never will. Even FEMA is telling the evacuees, stay out of New Orleans. FEMA is telling them to stay where they are and go get jobs and housing. DUH!!! It's sad when even the Government gets it. In all the towns the evacuees went to, their crime rates have gone up along with filings for all the welfare handouts. Houston is having fits. What a SURPRISE!!! Bums and derelicts are bums and derelicts, no matter where they go.
The number of available jobs in New Orleans went up to 2297 today. Seems they have more and more jobs available, yet the same number of willing applicants. You all keep telling me how mean I am. I love you too.
#12 Consumer Comment
I got a letter today... what's left of Biloxi...the place the Hurricane actually HIT!
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005
It was from one of my cousins in what's left of Biloxi...the place the Hurricane actually HIT! One of them still has about 100 trees laying all over the place(she had no trees before the storm) and another still has a plastic tarp for a roof on her house. The other two are fine. Those two got time off from their jobs to get things back in order.
As Lori said, we're talking "apples and oranges". Right. New Orleans was populated by bums and derelicts(48%) while Biloxi was populated by people who worked for a living. New Orleans was flooded, then drained and open for business within two weeks. Biloxi was wiped off the map. New Orleans and Louisianna are run by left wing Democrats, while Biloxi and Mississippi are not. People in New Orleans chose to live 12 feet below sea level, while people in Biloxi knew better. I could go on, but the differences are as clear as can be.
Anyone remember Hurricane Floyd? The people in eastern NC are still dealing with the environmental damage from that one. My house in NC has been hit with a dozen Hurricanes. I have recieved ZERO in federal money(as it should be) and have asked for none.
As for being without work, boohoo! When the Marines went to war, the economy in my town disappeared overnight. I held out for 6 months. After that, I decided it was time to move on, so I packed up and headed for greener pastures. This is what we call "being responsible". As I said before, people who work, always will. People who WON'T, never will. Even FEMA is telling the evacuees, stay out of New Orleans. FEMA is telling them to stay where they are and go get jobs and housing. DUH!!! It's sad when even the Government gets it. In all the towns the evacuees went to, their crime rates have gone up along with filings for all the welfare handouts. Houston is having fits. What a SURPRISE!!! Bums and derelicts are bums and derelicts, no matter where they go.
The number of available jobs in New Orleans went up to 2297 today. Seems they have more and more jobs available, yet the same number of willing applicants. You all keep telling me how mean I am. I love you too.
#11 Consumer Comment
I asked someone there - Mc Donalds offering a $500 hire on bonus and they are paying $9 an hour.
AUTHOR: Lorraine - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005
I just IM'd a friend who lives in New Orleans and he said he sees Help Wanted signs all over the N.O. and outlying town areas in Mc Donalds offering a $500 hire on bonus and they are paying $9 an hour. That's more than most fast food places pay anywhere in this country and due to how badly they need help.
I don't know the original poster. Only he can tell us why the job he had before the hurricane hit isn't available any more. Maybe he will post again and tell us what his previous employment was and when it's expected to be back in operation, so he will again be receiving the same income he had before. Or is it as Robert suggests and this is a person that was dependant on Welfare before the storm? What say ye D?
I can only speak of the 3 families I know who live in N.O. and they were all in safe/dry places to stay in a few days time and are back to work. None of them got any money from FEMA.
#10 Consumer Comment
Please instruct me - PROVE it with facts
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005
Tell me exactly what article in the US Constitution says the Federal Government has the legal authority to give taxpayer moneys to ANY induviduals? If you cannot find it, it's UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The income tax is Constitutional. That has been proven time and time again.
Lori, I know this will come as a shock...but...getting your news second hand from your husband is about as reliable as watching ABC, etc.
If my opinion is wrong...PROVE it with facts, not some wild story you all heard. As for licking my nuts, have at it Lori.
#9 Consumer Comment
Please instruct me - PROVE it with facts
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005
Tell me exactly what article in the US Constitution says the Federal Government has the legal authority to give taxpayer moneys to ANY induviduals? If you cannot find it, it's UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The income tax is Constitutional. That has been proven time and time again.
Lori, I know this will come as a shock...but...getting your news second hand from your husband is about as reliable as watching ABC, etc.
If my opinion is wrong...PROVE it with facts, not some wild story you all heard. As for licking my nuts, have at it Lori.
#8 Consumer Comment
Please instruct me - PROVE it with facts
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005
Tell me exactly what article in the US Constitution says the Federal Government has the legal authority to give taxpayer moneys to ANY induviduals? If you cannot find it, it's UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The income tax is Constitutional. That has been proven time and time again.
Lori, I know this will come as a shock...but...getting your news second hand from your husband is about as reliable as watching ABC, etc.
If my opinion is wrong...PROVE it with facts, not some wild story you all heard. As for licking my nuts, have at it Lori.
#7 Consumer Comment
Please instruct me - PROVE it with facts
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005
Tell me exactly what article in the US Constitution says the Federal Government has the legal authority to give taxpayer moneys to ANY induviduals? If you cannot find it, it's UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The income tax is Constitutional. That has been proven time and time again.
Lori, I know this will come as a shock...but...getting your news second hand from your husband is about as reliable as watching ABC, etc.
If my opinion is wrong...PROVE it with facts, not some wild story you all heard. As for licking my nuts, have at it Lori.
#6 Consumer Comment
I call Bullsh**!!!
AUTHOR: Lori - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005
Robert,
2000+ jobs, 100,000+ looking for jobs. Do the math Robert!!! FEMA is NOT welfare and you know it!!
Have you been to Louisiana since Katrina hit? I didn't think so. You've read my thread on Louisiana government. My husband has been there!!
Let me enlighten all of you. My husband is a wrecker driver and has been in Louisiana helping with the cleanup. Two weeks ago he has working in an area where water lines were two stories high, trying to recover a vehicle. This was a more affluent area, where people WORKED hard for their money. He saw a woman with two small children walking to one of the hygene stations, which are located about every three blocks in New Orleans, she was going to get drinkable water, toothpaste, etc. Yes folks, two weeks ago and the water is still not drinkable in some areas.
He struck up a conversation with her. It turns out, she WORKED for one of the local trucking companies. She had money in the bank but was unable to get to it due to the fact that her ID was destroyed when the lovely government blew the levees to save Bourbon Street. She was unable to shower due to her house being completely destroyed, full of mold, no running water or sewer. Who would hire someone who hasn't been able to shower?!
During their conversation, she said that she has received no help from FEMA. She and her children were not even rescued during the flooding. She had no family in Louisiana to help her. They are still living in their house beacause they have nowhere else to go and no way to get there. My husband gave her some money to try and help her out.
Robert, comparing Boloxi to New Orleans is like comparing apples to oranges. Boloxi is not below sea level so there for your point is mute (as you like to say). Boloxi also does not have any levees. People's homeowners insurance is not paying anyone a dime because they are saying that it wasn't hurricane damage, it was flood damage.
So, Mr. Know It All, Heartless *astard, why don't you lay down by your bowl and lick your *uts!!!
D, I'm sorry you and so many more like you are going through this *hit. Your own state and local government doesn't give a rats *ss and don't even get me started on the feds and FEMA. Have you ever thought about leaving Louisiana? If so, please come to Oklahoma, a state where people actually give a *hit about each other!!!!
#5 Consumer Comment
Unconstitutional?
AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005
I'm not going to challenge the underlying premise of your heartless rebuttal, Robert, because I know it's just not worth arguing with you on points like this. Your extreme-right sentiments, and your strange loathing of the impoversihed, prevent you from thinking clearly and accepting the numerous flaws in your arguments.
But, could you please tell us how, exactly, public assistance programs are unconstitutional? You're not sticking to that tired old "income taxes are unconstitutional" argument, are you? I thought more of you than that.
#4 Consumer Comment
Guess how many jobs are available for immediate hires? Two thousand one hundred and eighty six. 2,186.
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 16, 2005
Two thousand one hundred and eighty six. 2,186. That is as of today, Dec 16 2005, according to NOLA.com. NOLA is the online Classified section the Times-Picayune uses.
I used all available categories, full time only, and New Orleans only. The search took less than 5 minutes. 2186 available fulltime jobs in New Orleans. Add the part time jobs etc and the number comes up to 2280. That is what is available online(Online ads are PAID for by the employers, so very few will PAY to post a part time job ad). I will bet there are even more in the actual newspaper.
Someone please tell me again, how mean and horrible I am when I tell a BUM to go get a d**n job!
#3 Consumer Comment
Sorry Dave, you miss the whole point
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 16, 2005
The people who had jobs and worked to feed themselves and their families, have ALL found work. The ones that stayed, and the ones who left. The only people who are looking for handouts at this point, are the bums who drain our society. If you think this guy is a hard worker, YOU hire him.
I have four cousins who live in Biloxi. Ever heard of it? That's where Katrina ACTUALLY hit, not New Orleans. Biloxi was wiped off the map. New Orleans was open for business within 2 weeks. My cousins went to work the next day cleaning up and getting their businesses back in order, and no, none of them own their businesses. They all work for other people. Within a week of the hurricane's destruction, they were ALL back to collecting paychecks and supporting their families.
Forty eight(48) percent of the population of New Orleans collected a welfare check each month. You guess which part of the population "D" is in. I notice "D" has access to a computer. No job, but has a computer and internet access. Every major paper in the country has done stories about these dregs. The recurring theme is "Where am I going to live for FREE, and who's going to feed me"? In ZERO articles has the statement "I went and got a job and am looking for a place to house my kids and support them myself" been written. The people who had jobs, are back to work, wherever they are. People who work, will always do so. People who won't, never will. End welfare and ALL of the UNCONSTITUTIONAL handouts, and they'll all go get jobs.
Like I said Dave...If you think "D" is willing to work, YOU try and hire him. A dollar to a truckload of doughnuts, he won't take you up on the offer.
#2 Consumer Comment
That sucks Robert, How dare you tell someone who lost EVERYTHING to Katrina to get a job!
AUTHOR: Dave - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 16, 2005
I usually let your responses go with a grain of salt, but this one just sucks. Thousands of people are homeless and jobless because of Katrina. FEMA is NOT welfare, it is a federal emergency fund for disasters such as this! How dare you tell someone who lost EVERYTHING to Katrina to get a job! You need to crawl back under your rock. Most of these people have no where to go, work or live.
#1 Consumer Suggestion
Try getting a job
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 15, 2005
That's pretty much how everyone NOT collecting "the welfare" goes about their lives. They get jobs and EARN the money they need to pay for stuff. Try it.
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