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Complaint Review: Gryphon Investment Group - Chula Vista California

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  • Gryphon Investment Group 1288 Haglar Way Chula Vista, California United States of America

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I never received the Amex cards I ordered for my two clients from Carl Saunders in early and mid-October. Neither did at least 10 other people working under 3 other brokers that I'm aware of. I spoke with Carl several times, and he told me that the things written by Steve Bernola - one of the first Ripoff complaints I read againt Carl - were "lies, all lies." I believed him then. Now I know Steve was telling the truth.

If you go to Merchant Circle dot com, you'll see GLOWING reviews about Gryphon Investment Group, now called Gryphon Investment CONSULTING Group LLC. Take a closer look at the pattern of lowercase letters for first and last names, or last names of these people giving testimonials. Look at the spacing after each sentence. And look at the grammar, spelling, and general punctuation. Lots of similarities between them, right? Having dealt with Carl, I now know that these were all written by the same person, not 10 different people with good experiences. 

Believe the scam complaints!!!! Don't get taken by this guy - or anyone who is selling you a $100,000 Amex card whose processor is Carl Saunders. Carl will lie and tell you these complaints are lies. It's true that sometimes clients get pissed off and falsely mouth off on these forums to get back at a processor. In this case, however, I know by personal experience that the people sharing their experiences are not lying. Carl Saunders - I'm 99.99% sure - is the same person as Gregory Julliay, though he tells you Gregory is a separate entity, owner of "the corporation." "The corporation" has no name.

He names other scammers and tells you not to do business with them, do it with him, and tells you stories of clients who've come from scammers to him. He might even give you the number of one or two associates who will swear they got cards from him. He tells you he has tons of investors ready to invest millions in your other projects, just send them to him. He sends you current "proof" of recent email testimonials, all with the same bad grammar, punctuation, spelling, etc.

Then he pressures you if you hesitate, telling you other brokers are "go-getters" and submitting tons of clients, or that he will cancel your application. He gives excuses when the deadline for receiving your card comes and goes. He's very available to take your money, but not to follow up weeks later when the deadline is past. After a point, you don't hear back from him at all whether you call, text, or email. Gone - poof. In the wind.

At the very least, if you are going to try him out, do not do ANY business except with a credit card. That way, when things don't work out - and they will not - you have legal recourse and can charge back your money. DO NOT do the GreenDot MoneyPak which he offers. I knew not to do it, but against my better judgment went ahead, believing his BS, and got ripped off $2,850. Save yourself the losses. You've been warned.

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#4 Consumer Comment

Oh Really?? Yes Really.I got my Amex Credit Card This Past Saturday.Stop Your Lies Stupid

AUTHOR: I Got My Amex Credit Card On Saturd - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, January 16, 2012

My name is bethany and i live in staten island in cold new york.I got my amex credit card this past weekend.To all rip-off report readers dont ever believe a lie.I cant even believe these malicious attacks on carl and gryphon investment and finance group.Had i believed those lies and fake post, i would not even have a 100,000 amex corporate credit card in my name.Its funny to me how these boards allows fake posters to post any thing they want and think its the truth.All i can attest to is that the amex program worked for me and im very satisfied with the end results.To be candid with you all i made my first purchase with the card on sunday for 15,000 on a new car for myself with real plastic.This program works and it is the only real thing out there these days.Im happy i got the chance to get into the amex credit card program. Bethany Mcmakins

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#3 Consumer Comment

Oh, really ??

AUTHOR: Lorenzen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 11, 2012

You claim to have received 8 AMEX cards at $100,000 credit limit each, yet you paid the fees with a    GREEN DOT card ???????   ROFLMAO  !!!!!   That has GOT to be the story of the year !!!!  Yeah, I'm sure that "The Donald" also pays with HIS Green Dot cards, too !!!  And I'm still ROFLMAO, you Ultra-Cretin.

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#2 Consumer Comment

We got 8 $100,000k amex credit cards from gryphon investment and finance group without a problem and we was not scammed nor lied to!!!!

AUTHOR: Gabriel Gomez #1 Forex Trading Brok - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 10, 2012

My name is gabriel, myself and eight of my clients did business with carl saunders and his company[gryphon investment and finance group].We each purchased his high limit blue amex credit card program way back on july 5th  of 2010. We paid him with green dot money pak cards with not even a hiccup.His program claims that it takes 14/21 business days to complete and up to 7 business days for us to get the cards in the mail.Take a wild guess what happened? On the 23rd day myself and my clients started to get their amex credit cards as promised.His company performed as promised!!Take it from a real broker who went with the program and put his neck on the line with eight other clients,THIS PROGRAM WORKS.At the end of january i will be putting five more clients into the amex credit card program.Thanks for you time and have a great new year .

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This post by this individual is all made up lies.

AUTHOR: Gregory Julliay,President and Owner - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, December 30, 2011

Hello rip-off report readers.My name is greg and i am in fact a real human being,whom is a christian man doing good deeds for people who are less fortunate than my wife and i.The amex credit card program that my wife and i offer has been a complete success and we have been able to do about 14 100,000 amex credit cards under our corporation.Like most companies we have had our share of bumps in the road and clients have been late in some instances getting there amex credit cards.That is not a bad reflection of us nor gryphon investment consulting group.We have only one broker and that is carl.This post is a complete fabrication of actual facts and my wife and i will not sit back and let lies destroy our reputation nor gryphon investment consulting group.There has been some delays that we have had to fix,reason being 2 people charged 1.6million and never paid there bill thus freezing our corporate accounts until the debt was paid off.Our program is in no way a scam nor is gryphon investment consulting group a scam and can not control situations beyond there business control.These post are full of false claims,and so much defamatory content out of the realm of any real dispute.Fake post like these is their tool to deceive,make false claims etc.Fake lies and post is the most classless,tasteless acts of"malice"to commit slander.Using the internet to defame and slander is a violation of the law. The internet authorities have found that thousands of people are being victimized by False Posting via the internet and these hidden Companies that do the posting have to be shut down....Gryphon investment consulting group is not a scam and their clients will continue to get their amex credit cards provided by my wife and i.We are real people and we will stand by gryphon investment consulting group and the products we both offer.This post is a lie and please dont believe it rip-off report readers.Have a safe new year.Greg{owner}

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