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  • Submitted: Tue, August 16, 2011
  • Updated: Fri, August 17, 2012

  • Reported By: Fraud Victim — United Kingdom
Hans Leissner
Voegelinsegg 8, 9042 Speicher AR/CH Switzerland Speicher, Select State/Province United States of America

Hans Leissner Hans Jurgen Leissner, Swiss Quattro, Robert Maier, Thomas Bahne, Leo Janske, Dr. Wegner, Gruppe Winter AG "Run, Do Not Walk, From Anyone In This Group of Thives" Speicher, Other

*General Comment: Hans Leissner

*General Comment: I Doubt it

*Consumer Comment: Concerned Gruppe Winter Global

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WARNING: Hans Jurgen Leissner, and any and all of the aforementioned associates, are the most unscrupulous sub-human liars to ever be born. Fraud is a horrific crime to be a victim of but the cut is deepest when it is perpetrated from someone that penetrates your inner sanctum disguised a friend is despicable.

FACT#1: THE PERFECT SET-UP: After several years of what I/we believed to be real professional relationship that over time evolved into a friendship, Hans Leissner has secured his next victim. Hans and his associates convinced us to help facilitate a large commodity transaction and whereby to invest a substantial sum for the promise of return of capital and significant profit within a short term=too good to be true. Based on assurances, particularly from a friend, we were more than happy to participate. Regardless, as business is business we thankfully generated and had all parties execute a legally binding agreement with the agreed terms and conditions of this capital contribution and terms of repayment.

FACT#2: GERMAN & INTERNATIONAL LEGAL PROCESS: As time went on it become most painfully clear that this was not just your standard breach of contract but outright fraud. As this was an International transaction, the German police have accepted, as a valid case with more than adequate cause to assign an official case number. Subsequently our solicitors have also pursued and filed the case through the International channels of the Hague Convention.

 FACT#3: THE GREAT ESCAPE: To avert the German judicial system, Hans Leissner and Swiss Quattro subsequently filed for bankruptcy in Germany and in true nature like the sewer dwelling cock-o-roaches they are, fled to Switzerland to form/join Gruppe Winter AG a.k.a. Gruppe Winter Global. http://www.gruppewinterglobal.com/index.html

 FACT#4: THREAT OF PHYSICAL HARM: After discussions to peacefully resolve the issue Han Leissner and his group-o-thugs reverted to threats of physical harm.

 FACT#5: YOU CAN RUN, BUT YOU CAN NOT HIDE: Our German solicitors have advised our group that it is only of time until justice is served. However in an attempt to prevent another innocent, well intending customer from being conned and becoming a victim of this most unscrupulous devious person and group of thieves, we feel a moral and ethical responsibility to warn the world of Hans Jurgen Leissner.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 08/16/2011 04:42 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Hans-Leissner/Speicher-Select-StateProvince-9042/Hans-Leissner-Hans-Jurgen-Leissner-Swiss-Quattro-Robert-Maier-Thomas-Bahne-Leo-Janske-766019. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 General Comment

Hans Leissner

AUTHOR: Rlnorth - (United States of America)

I can confirm everything this person is stating. I personally had the exact same experience with Leissner and Dr Wegner . I have done all the things that this filer has done in Germany . In addition , I have files a law suite in California for which a default judgment has been obtained against Leissner . Dr Wegner has answered the complaint and we will soon see how this plays out .
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#2 General Comment

I Doubt it

AUTHOR: Francis Rotheram - (New Zealand)

Gruppe Winter Global Gruppe Winter AG has this report been verified and authenticatedby Rip Off?

I doubt it.

I tried to publish this Comment/Rebuttal a month ago but it was returned to me by the Rip Off Report administration as I had tried to publish it as a new report not as a Rebuttal. I'm glad that this site is monitored, as the delay gave me time to ascertain what I felt when I read the original report; it is a great deal of unsubstantiated nonsense.  Thank you Rip Off Report for keeping me on-track..

I have spent time and money over the past six weeks trying to find ANY mention of Gruppe Winter and /or Hans Leissner and /or any of the various persons nominated in any German or international credit bureau.  There is NONE and there would be IF there had been a judgement. 

It is easy for a disgruntled person to defame a 70 year old company such as Gruppe Winter and to hide behind Websites such as Rip Off Report, but if I, or any other thinking businessperson is to take notice of this report we must know
whether the report was in any way checked by Rip Off before publication.  Was it?

I note that there are NO specifics in the complaint; what was the purported fraud and what is the German authorities File Number?  I would like to read the file and even publish it here. A report full of generalities and non-specifics is of doubtful value and only disturbs long-standing business relationships. 

One thing I do know about Gruppe Winter is that they have never operated in the UK as they are not registered with the UK Financial Services Authority, so this part of the complainant's report  is inaccurate.

I have known of Gruppe Winter for some 40 years and have heard only good reports,so as a businessperson I'm concerned, as they have large, old established philanthropic programmes worldwide, particularly regarding clean drinking water in China and S.E. Asia. Is this the behaviour of a Scammer?

I understand that Hans Leissner has been with Gruppe Winter only for some two years and is neither a shareholder nor a director of the mother company and has no police or credit bureau record; if anyone has any further information, please join this discussion with SPECIFICS.

The name below and the location are my passport name and address and Rip Off has my phone and email (francis.rotheram@gmail.com); I would be happy to hear more.

Secondly, (Nothing to do with the above matter) I would appreciate it if the person who said they were offered BGs at 50+5 percent would kindly contact me because I'm interested in such a deal on top five banks; the most commission that we have EVER been offered is 2% and most of our deals are 1% with all commissions shared 50/50 between the Buyer and Seller sides. 
 

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#3 Consumer Comment

Concerned Gruppe Winter Global

AUTHOR: Privatetalk101 - (United States of America)



Hello , I just read the report you have written about Gruppe Winter Global, our company has received an offer to purchase certain bank gurantees from this company at 50 + 5 , what I would like to learn is if you have any other information on this large group of 7 different companies?



Do you know of the CEO Grant Hoskins and





http://www.plaxo.com/directory/profile/8590323484/849c2274/Grant/Hoskins



www.globalcoalblending.com

www.phizon.com

www.protectwater.org



After what I have read I would like to know if there are others out there that have had business dealing with this group.





























































































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