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  • Submitted: Thu, November 12, 2009
  • Updated: Sun, December 04, 2011

  • Reported By: Tariq — Pearland Texas United States of America
Imagine International LLC/INC
17117 Westheimer Rd. Suite 20 Houston, Texas United States of America

Imagine International LLC/INC Trent T. Daniel MLM scam; Failure to pay commissions; Company Dead Broke; Houston, Texas

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: TOO FUNNY!!! :-)

*Consumer Comment: MAKING MOST OF REMARKS READ

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: What Goes Around Comes Around

*Consumer Comment: I did some research.

*Consumer Comment: Sound Familiar Anyone?

*Consumer Comment: Why doesn't Tariq respond to this?

*Consumer Comment: Taria Abdul-Hadi endoresed commission of a crime!

*Consumer Comment: Arrangements made.

*Author of original report: Organizing to shut Trent T. Daniel DOWN

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Trent T. Daniel Breaks Silence and Responds!!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: A Comment from Imagine International, Inc.

*Consumer Comment: Tariq Abdul-Hadi! Pot Calling the Kettle!

*Consumer Comment: They don't need to respond! We got they back!

*Consumer Comment: Why should they respond?

*Consumer Comment: Can't Trent speak for HIMSELF

*Consumer Comment: IMAGINE SUPPORTERS PLEASE STOP THIS!!!!

*Consumer Comment: I am an Imagine International Investor!

*Author of original report: STAYING FOCUSED

*Consumer Comment: Mr. Tariq - Your legal perspective may be in error.

*Consumer Comment: Tariq Abdul-Hadi, You Are RIDICULOUS! I am, and always will be an IMAGINE INTERNATIONAL SUPPORTER!

*Author of original report: Imagine Supporters Allege A Smoke Screen Defense

*Consumer Comment: This is SOOOO STUPID!!!!

*Consumer Comment: Another Hater Rears his Ugly Head!

*Consumer Comment: Tariq Abdul-Hadi Extortion Attempt

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This is a MLM that recruits but doesn't pay commissions. The offer a credit- education that doesn't work properly. All of their websites routinely go down. Purchasers of software cannot get support questions answered by the company.


The VP of Sales & Marketing (Trent Thompson Daniel) has been to prison for credit card abuse and forgery of financial instruments. Beware of the hype. I achieved the highest pay position in the company in just 30 days and have yet to be paid. We are approaching two months without receiving commission checks. The company routinely issues bounced checks to its representatives as well.



The company is in debt everywhere they go. Most recent they have an outstanding debt with a local Marriott Hotel for failing to pay their room hosting rental fees.



Trent T. Daniel is behind in the yearly LLC and/or Incorporation fees for several companies listed in the State of Delaware. This means that many of the businesses he's running do have state authority to do business.



Trent T. Daniel has been sued several times for failing to pay business related expenses totaling well over $550k and dating back to 2000 in Harris County Texas (It's all public information people). Beware, Beware, Beware.  

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/12/2009 07:34 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Imagine-International-LLCINC/Houston-Texas-77082/Imagine-International-LLCINC-Trent-T-Daniel-MLM-scam-Failure-to-pay-commissions-Compan-523232. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

TOO FUNNY!!! :-)

AUTHOR: Trent T. Daniel - (USA)

Normally, I don't respond to any of this silliness but I just wanted to point out something I find very funny.

DRQ, the "military writing specialist" above, aka David R. Quintana from Montgomery, actually spelled four words incorrectly in his post and used bad grammar --- see if you can find them.

Let's assume he doesn't represent the best the US Army military intelligence has to offer. LOL!

My God!  I need some new haters because these two, Tariq and David, are really sad. :-/

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#2 Consumer Comment

MAKING MOST OF REMARKS READ

AUTHOR: DRQ - (United States of America)

I spent 23 years in the military working in encryption, studying writing styles & tracing ISP addresses through the Internet to hlep law enforcement agencies capture theives, murders, & terrorists throughout the world. I was not hired nor asked to read the post[s] or rebuttals listed on Ripoff Reports or to sort any truths beyond the scope of the commetns listed in each.

But, during my reading of this complain thread and what I am so surprised about, is that many [as in more than a few] of the rebuttal comments on this report are written by the same person, the person most likely claiming to have written Mr. Daniel's comment is best described & identified through written analization as the author of most of the comments responding to the lead thread.

This does not identify Mr. Daniel as the authors of each rebuttal, but the person who wrote Mr. Daniel's rebuttal has been identified as the author. Readers of this complain should be aware of this.
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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

What Goes Around Comes Around

AUTHOR: Walter - (USA)

I have been following this crap from day one and was just informed that the person who wrote this post  has recently had his company shut down because of an investigation by the DEA. 

The company, Label Secure was apparently stealing prescriptions from patients.

Shame, shame, shame!

Oops.  I mean to say TOUCHDOWN!




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#4 Consumer Comment

I did some research.

AUTHOR: John - (USA)

I was approached by someone form Houston who wants to recruit me into Imagine International.  I was interested so I did a search about the company on the net and found this report. 

At first when I read all of what is here I became very skeptical about Mr. Daniel (the founder) and this business.  I then googled his name and found a video that convinced me not to pay attention to the mud slinging that is happening in this report. 

I decided to join this company because of the words of someone I am a big fan of and that I know is credible. I am sure she has seen this and still speaks very well of Trent and Imagine International. The video is on Mr. Daniel's website at trenttdaniel dot com at the videos link.

Just putting it out there for what it's worth. 

J - FT WORTH

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#5 Consumer Comment

Sound Familiar Anyone?

AUTHOR: Robert W (Designer) - (USA)

My small contribution :-)  Tariq, please get a life and quit hatin on that man. 
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#6 Consumer Comment

Why doesn't Tariq respond to this?

AUTHOR: Darnell - (USA)

This man is insane and obsessed for real. Where's your response Tariq?????

Tariq talks so much in his posts about Trent and all of the evil he is supposedly doing with nothing to back it up.  Now he got caught with his d*&k in his hand.  

It is very illegal to encourage someone to commit a crime and this is what he gets! The SHUT TRENT DOWN organization was a stupid move.  How could he possibly know who was responding to him?

Tariq -- You are a TRUE dumb ass and I am glad you stepped on your own tongue - and now there is written proof.  I wouldn't want to be you!

In the wise and powerful words of FRED SANFORD ---- YOU BIG DUMMY!

Emily M did real good!!!!
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#7 Consumer Comment

Taria Abdul-Hadi endoresed commission of a crime!

AUTHOR: EM - (USA)

My name is Emily M. This post will be ONLY based on Tariq Abdul-Hadi's own words in emails he has sent to me in the last few days. You can download the complete emails in pdf here ... If the rip off report system strips out the web address to download the files I will repost them and make notice.


I want to express in the beginning of this submission that I am not taking anyones side. I also want to express that Trent Daniel owes me and my husband money for services we paid for that we did not get, but we do not feel that he stole our money. We know several people in finance related businesses that suffered client losses when the econonmy went bad and Trent has satisfied us that he was one of them. Trent Daniel is a bad communicator and that is the extent of our negative feelings about him.


Now that I have said that I wish to express to you what Mr. Tariq Abdul-Hadi has done and is attempting to do in his organization to SHUT TRENT DOWN. When I first saw his post about this organization last week I decided to express an interest to join just to see where he was coming from. I told him I did not want to become a part of a personal battle and this was his response (email dated April 13, 2010 from email address brothertariq@gmail.com)


... THIS IS A PERSONAL BATTLE!!! With all of the stories that we can gather, we will be able to approach the Harris County District Attorney and request an investigation that will lead to the following: #1. To put an immediate stop to Trent's deceitful buisness practices. #2. To force the seizure of any assets that Trent and/or his businesses own in order to pay back the victims for their losses. #3. To file criminal charges against Trent for his willful and deliberate intent to deceive investors and consumers....


After seeing where he was going with this I posted a rip off report that said I was leary of his organization and that he made it seem like he had the support of the Harris County DA's office. I was in error for saying that because that is not what Tariq said. I promised Tariq I would correct that statement and I am doing so now. The problem for us was when Tariq read the statement I made about the DA's office he immediately accused me and my husband of colluding with Trent.


In email dated April 15 he said:


... I never outed you as a source of information and I suspect that your actions were for no other purpose than to embarrass me at the urging of Trent and maybe others. I never contacted Trent or Imagine International and told them you were communicating with me ...


Whenever challenged, Mr. Tariq always said that someone was embarrassing him and working with Trent. That was not true, but it became a familiar tune over the last few days. To prove this further I asked Mr. Tariq the following questions in an email on April 14.


1. Did Trent try to pay you the money they owed you and why did you refuse to accept it?


2. How many other people have teamed up with you in this organization. You mentioned in your email an investor who lost $50,000 and another who lost more. Are they a part of this because they have much higher amounts lost than I do?


3. Why did they claim you tried to extort the company in a post on ripoffreport.com


4. What is the status of the police report the ripoffreport said was filed against you. This is very important to us because we do not want to get caught up in anything like that?


5. How exactly will we be able to get our money back by working with you?


His only response was to avoid the question and get defensive:


... The tone of email was intended to match the tone of your email wherein which you questioned me as though I should be held in skepticism as reflected in your interrogating questions. ...


I told Mr. Tariq in an email from April 15th:


Thanks for you reply. Please understand sir that my questions were legitimate because you are asking people (us) to join you. Questions between partners are okay but as you just said you felt like you were being held in skepticism. I personally think that you tend to give off an air of always being on the defensive.


He responded again only to defend himself by saying on April 16th:


... I think that your judgment of me based on emails is incorrect....I have suffered much to my reputation because I exposed Trent...


Fearing that Mr. Tariq was so obsessed with Trent Daniel even to the point of where he might try to hurt him, his partner and his wife physically, I began to press him harder to see if I needed to alert Trent or the authorities. I said in my next email on April 16:


... You want to take him down but what happens if you do not succeed in hurting him? How far would you go? ....


His response on April 16:


... Trent has failed to this day to admit that he wilfully performed acts that he knew were wrong at the time that he committed them. Trent's offer to tell people that he is sorry for failing to communicate with them about the status of why they haven't received the services he promised is not a truthful discourse...


Although Mr. Tariq says Trent was being untruthful he never would answer as to why he believed that. I then lied to Mr. Tariq by saying:


... I do know that Trent and Sarah both have new cars now so they must have found a way to overcome the loss. You posted in the rip off report that them losing the car was a touchdown - they now have two. What good came from that situation? ....


His response was:


... Having went on to acquire two new cars for instance is not an accomplishment when you owe people several thousands of dollars. The first action of Trent should've been to make right what he has done wrong. Some of the people who have lost money with Trent can't go get a new car let alone two....


The problem I had with this is that Trent is making things right. I lied to Mr. Tariq about the cars to see if he would verify what I was saying or just take me at face value because I said something to confirm his beliefs about Trent. I then decided to try to steer the situation to the overall reason for the organization as Tariq had stated in his rip off report post. My email from April 16th said:


.... If we are going to go to the DA we are going to have to present an organized case that proves crimes have been committed.


1. We need to show that Trent had no intentions of delivering the work people paid for. How do we do this? In our case we can't show that because he successfully did work for the several people who referred us to him so the assumption will be he just failed and owes us money which is civil and not criminal.


2. We should try to get affidavits or the cooperation of the investors to support that Trent lied to them to get their money. Just showing that they lost money is not going to be enough.


3. We need to show he did not use their money for the business(es) they invested in. How do we do this?


Mr. Tariq's reponse on April 16th was:


Our case before the DA must entail a systematized record many factors including but not limited to the following:


1. Person(s) who have paid for services from Trent and have failed to receive them should first begin by sending a letter via certified mail with return receipt requested to Trent, that details the specifics of their claim to the money that Trent owes them and a demand that he return that money for failure to provide the services and/or products they purchased. This demand should request that their monies be paid in full within thirty days. Knowing Trent these letters will be disregarded and go unanswered. The letters are however evidence against him if he fails to answer them and a violation of the Consumer Protection Laws of Texas.


2. Those persons who have received services that did not fulfill the claims purported by Trent should also send a letter of complaint to Trent demanding a resolution. If it has been more than a year since they received these faulty services they should send a letter requesting an explanation as to why the services do not perform according to Trent's claims.


3. Now the necessity to prove that Trent had no intentions of delivering the work that people paid for can be done by proving that the work was shoddy, deficient of normal professional standards, and never worked. Another point to add is that the method in which Trent used to build these credit profiles was illegal and misleading.


I understood the first 2 responses because they were truly steps to correct a situation. The third one was strange to me becuase Mr. Tariq was saying that to prove Trent took people's money with no intention to do the work was to show the work he did was sub-standard! I responded last night by saying:


... To me that makes no sense at all! You are saying to prove he had no intention of doing the work we need to show that he did the work but that it was deficient. If he did some work ... that is work. Quality of work is not the litmus test for no work at all. Think about it. I told you he successfully got thousands of dollars of credit for my friends so it's obvious he was doing something. How can we prove that he did nothing. If he comes up with one record that proves otherwise we are going to be made to look like fools. How do we prove his intent to do nothing when he was doing something?...


The next thing Mr. Tariq did (that I knew was illegal) showed me completely he was willing to do anything to hurt Trent, his wife, and his partner. In an email on April 16 I lied again about someone I knew that worked for Trent:


... On a more interesting note, Trent's assistant and I are meeting on Saturday and she told me she can get anything out of his office without him knowing. She said there are new business credit account folders marked 2010 that have thousands of dollars of credit approved including a $250,000 amex account that the cards just arrived for. She also can get usernames and passwords to his back up email file which he never accesses. It can be logged into from the web.


She said there are many emails from pissed off people, creditors, etc. The problem is that she cannot print these because the print server would show the file extensions, but the usernames and passwords can be used to access his NAS drive from outside to get all that is there and he would not have a clue. She also can get logins to the personal (not business) bank acocunts which also can be accessed without his knowing. She said there are like 9 personal accounts with alot of money going back and forth. Strange. What do you want me to tell her because I am meeting with her on Saturday early afternoon and she can do this over the weekend while he is gone? I can send you everything from and to a private email address by yousendit.com or something like that.


... HIS NEXT REPONSE WAS A CLEAR ENDORSEMENT OF STEALING INFO, FILES AND COMPUTER ACCESS FROM TRENT'S OFFICE. HE SAID IN AN EMAIL FROM LAST NIGHT:


... First I should address your allay your fears about my sharing information with others in the campaign. I am 100% loyal to the privacy of others who share things with me and would not disclose anything without your prior approval.


... Everything that you listed as accessible to your friend has tremendous evidentiary value and would certainly help in unwinding the intricate scheme that Trent has put together. If your friend is willing to join the campaign and provide information to you that can be used Trent down then I say good for her to take such a bold stance. I am interested to know though what is reason behind her wanting to give you all this information? Whatever the case if you come across something I would be glad to take a look at it.


At this moment I knew Mr. Tariq was dangerous! He actually endorsed someone stealing information and computer access to bank accounts as someting that would help his organization to shut Trent down!!! Once I read this I immediately told my husband so he wrote Tariq another email. In that email, my husband (pretending to be me) said:


... 1. You said in your email yesterday --- There are also other investors at the top of the food chain that have and continue to reap rewards from every new dollar that is poured into the company. We don't need to show that people lost money, we need to show that Trent is conducting a ponzi scheme and paying old investors with the money of new investors. But you also said that we should get affidavits and cooperation from investors which I assume means you have not yet gotten that support. ....


His response was again another attack on me:


... Please be advised that it is the firm belief that you are in fact misrepresenting yourself as Emily Mason and are in fact Trent Thompson Daniel ... Effective immediately you are not to send any emails to brothertariq@gmail.com. Your emails are considered unsolicited and an abuse report will be filed and your disregard for this warning will be considered harassment.


Lastly, I am alarmed that Mr. Tariq has been able to get information from Trent's attorney. He said this to support his claims (email from Tariq on April 16).


... Trent told this to an attorney that once worked for Imagine International.... __________________________________________________________________


As I said in my earlier posts, Trent is paying us what he owes as he is paying others. I am satisfied. It is not for me to expose the reasons Trent gave us for his financial struggles but I do know that his sincerity was refreshing to us and we appreciated his candor. We did get a small payment today. It was not alot, but it was a good faith effort on Trent's part and we appreciate that.


I am making this post to warn people because these emails prove that Tariq Abdul-Hadi is obssessed with hurting Trent, Sarah and his partner or anyone affiliated with Imagine International. I also believe, based on these emails, that he is capable and willing to attempt a physcial attack on them as well. He admitted that he was interested in getting stolen information from their home!


What is clearly evident is that he is wanting to recruit people to do harm and damage ...


I have not previously notified Trent or anyone else about this but due to concern for his safety, his wife and partner I am doing so now. I am also filing a police report about Mr. Abdul-Hadi's endorsement of stealing information from Trent's home.


Emily M

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#8 Consumer Comment

Arrangements made.

AUTHOR: EM - (United States of America)

I am also reporting that Mr. Daniel and his partner have worked out arrangements with my husband and I. We only wanted to be communicated with until we got our refund. We never filed a rip off report but we did see this one and volunteered to submit this comment.

I also emailed Mr. Tariq and we made the decision not to join his organization because we felt like he is trying to hurt people instead of help people get their money back. There is enough of that TEA PARTY mentality going on and we want no parts of that. I was also concerned that Mr. Tariq spoke as if he had the support of the Harris County DA's office in his mission to SHUT TRENT DOWN.

Mr. Daniel's partner did explain why there was a drop off in communication and we accepted the reasons. We did not like the lack of communication, but after talking to them we do understand. They did apologize and are making things right.

We were referred to Mr. Daniel by several people he had successfully done work for so we know he was not taking people's money. Trent's partner also showed us proof of their ability to repay us. We are satisfied with the resolution and will submit again once we have been paid in full.

EM

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#9 Author of original report

Organizing to shut Trent T. Daniel DOWN

AUTHOR: Tariq - (USA)

ATTENTION ALL VICTIMS OF FRAUD CRIMES COMMITTED BY TRENT T. (THOMPSON) DANIEL!!!

After my initial post on the ripoff report many others have come forward with postings of their own horrible experiences of some kind with Trent T. Daniel, Imagine International, and/or The Engenyx Software Corporation. I am glad that you have shared your stories. Shortly after beginning this report I was attacked through rebuttals to my original post in an effort to create a smokescreen to hide Trent's crimes. Although it was an uncomfortable process, I was not deterred at all for this fraudster and anyone else who participated in conjunction with his crimes should be held accountable.

Therefore I am forming a grassroots campaign titled "SHUT TRENT T. DANIEL DOWN." This cause is aimed at putting Trent T. Daniel out of business and in jail should that be the outcome, so that Trent and those working in conjunction with him, will no longer be able to take advantage of innocent consumers seeking to obtain legitimate services and/or products to build better opportunities for themselves and their families. Please do not hesitate to send your confirmations for this cause to (((Redacted))).

As our great history proves, with the unified effort of a few, great things can happen for good and unfortunately at times for bad. Please join me in doing what's right by stopping those who take advantage of our most vulnerable citizens for they must be held accountable. If we stand together to do so, it will turn out right. Remember if you do what's right, it will turn out right; likewise if we do what's wrong it will turn out wrong. The days of not speaking up against MLM scam artist, ponzi schemes, con-men, and those who work stratigically to defraud innocent investor's, employees, and unsuspecting consumers must not be allowed to continue. From Enron to Sanford, the citizens of the State of Texas must stand up and demand that those who refuse to do business above board, including Trent T. Daniel, must be SHUT DOWN.

 

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#10 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Trent T. Daniel Breaks Silence and Responds!!

AUTHOR: TRENT T. DANIEL - (USA)

Due to the massive amount of time Mr. Tariq Abdul-Hadi of Pearland, Texas has spent trying to keep people from listening to me and all of my "infinite wisdom" or becoming a part of the Imagine International business I have decided to take the time to respond and give him the 15 minutes (or so) of fame he seems to so desperately be in need of.

Join me for the internet radio premiere of Life Talk with Trent T. Daniel on Monday, January 4 at 9 AM CST at (http://www.imagineinternational.biz/imagine/lifetalk.aspx) as I discuss my past sins, transgressions, and even the debts from business failures -all for the sake of making it public that I am not a perfect person and that I have a past that is not spotless and pristine.  I can live with that, but it seems Tariq is having trouble coping. So sad. So Sad.

Why am I doing this? Because sometimes you have to let the haters and the naysayers have their SOAPBOX MOMENT so intelligent people can evaluate the MERIT OF THE MESSENGERS. I have nothing to hide, what about you Mr. Tariq?

Aren't you all excited about this? 

I know Mr. Tariq has to be because he is finally going to get the audience he has been looking for .... IF he is willing to show up on the radio show as much as he has on this anonymous website where his claims cannot be challenged. :->

Don't miss it because Life Talk with Trent T. Daniel is going to start off with some GREAT CONVERSATION.

So, Tariq or anyone else interested in a nice little debate, please call into the show around 9:15 AM on Monday the 4th at (347) 855-8049.  I hope you all are looking forward to this fun-filled and spirited PREMIERE broadcast of Life Talk with Trent T. Daniel because GOD KNOWS I AM.

Sincerely,

Trent T. Daniel
(Esquire of the Hampton Daniels) 
:-> Inside JOKE! 

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#11 REBUTTAL Individual responds

A Comment from Imagine International, Inc.

AUTHOR: Imagine International, Inc. - (United States of America)

This is a request from Imagine International, Inc. that the Imagine Supporters please discontinue submitting postings that contain personal and negative attacks against Mr. Abdul-Hadi and Ms. Abigail Baker.

We have been very pleased with the groundswell of support we have received from all of you, however, these kinds of personal attacks are completelely unneccesary and are not in the spirit of what Imagine International, Inc. stands for. 

While we do understand that the comments from Mr. Abdul-Hadi may be unsettling, we do not want, need, or expect any Imagine International Advisors to resort to personal attacks on anyone in defense of this company.

Imagine International is growing everyday and we are doing so by staying focused on empowerment and development of people.  The growth, development, and success of you and your Imagine International businesses is the only response necessary in this situation.

Please be advised that any Imagine International Advisor found to be posting personal attacks against Mr. Abdul-Hadi and/ or Ms. Abigail Baker will be suspended indefinitely from the Imagine International Advisor base pusuant to Section 8.1 of the Imagine International Policies and Precedures.

Again, we request that the negative and disrespectful postings cease immediately.

Thank You,

Corinda Joanne Melton
Imagine International, Inc.
President and CEO

Trent T. Daniel
Imagine International, Inc.
VP of Sales and Marketing

Sarah "Diva" Daniel
Imagine International, Inc.
Leadership Development Director

 

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#12 Consumer Comment

Tariq Abdul-Hadi! Pot Calling the Kettle!

AUTHOR: BRIAN JACKSON - (USA)

Ooops.. Just found Mr. Tariq Abdul-Hadi has been up to no good.  There is a Rip Off Report on him here as well.  It is case number #545225.  Apparently he has been doing some shady business credit deals.

Also, Tariq... if you are gonna pretend to be someone else on this website be smart enough to remember that the posting you make is listed under AUTHOR still and increases the post count by AUTHOR so we know it was you who did the WHY DON'T THEY RESPOND POST. 

God, you are dumb. Abigail must be proud.  :-(

B.J.

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#13 Consumer Comment

They don't need to respond! We got they back!

AUTHOR: BRIAN JACKSON - (USA)

Tariq. Watch out for your enemie's friends. You have been a b*tch made ni*ga since i met u at d-mars.  u act like a female who wanted some Trent and he told you no!  You look like you could suck a mean d*ck in a PRIMA FACIE way!  Junior college, big word using, fake ass Malcom X, al- qaeda wanna be ass HO!
You and your Casual Corner suit wearing, wanna be like Sarah, no class b*tch, Abigail Baker who works at DOW need to sit the f**k down and shut the f*ck up!  Cause someone might shut you up, HO!

Keep playin!


B. "EXTERMINATOR" JACKSON FOOL! --- You already know, Tariq!
Trent Supporter RIDE or DIE
PVU - A PHI Q - Spring '96

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#14 Consumer Comment

Why should they respond?

AUTHOR: The Imagine Supporters Group - (USA)

I think the person above said it the best.  Trent and Imagine should not comment because for them to do so would only continue to give life to this silliness.  Look at all of the major companies on this website that have detractors and see if there are any responses from Mary Kay corporate, Carlton Sheets, ACN, Holton Buggs, etc.

Smart business people do not respond to this kind of stuff.  Because if they did they would be fighting a battle they could never win.  Ths whole website is about pettiness and talk.  Success will always bring people like Tariq who want to discredit the successful. I do not care if Trent Daniel is dead broke and I do not care what he did in the past.  I only care about the value he, his wife, and this company have brought into my life. 

I believe Trent, Joanne and Sarah have wisely chosen to be silent because none of you are worth their time.  They have a business to build and I am glad they haven't responded and I thank them for not doing so.  I want them to focus on getting that iPhone app on the market and to continue delivering quality like they always have. 

You talk about there only being six people in a presentation, hell, I went to one Holton Buggs first Organo Gold presentations years ago and there were only 9 or 10 people.  Look at him now!!!

We supporters are not blind, we just believe in this company and it's founders and we choose not to suspend that belief due to cowards on a website who obviously have nothing better to do on Christmas Day other than throw darts at Trent, his wife and Imagine International.  Question for all of you haters?  What have you done in the past? How many of you are successful millionaires?  Where is your beautiful website like www.imagineinternational.biz? Where is your product? What is your vision?  What is your story and how are you changing lives and having a positive impact in life.

I believe in Trent T. Daniel, Sarah Marie Daniel and Corinda Joanne Melton.  Let's all just see what happens in the future.  If they are dead broke, I am more than certain they won't be for long.  We will all just have to wait and see.

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R.H.

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#15 Consumer Comment

Can't Trent speak for HIMSELF

AUTHOR: WHY ISN''T TRENT SPEAKING UP - (United States of America)

After reading the many submissions regarding this matter one thing has truly been puzzling, WHY HASN'T TRENT OR IMAGINE INTERNATIONAL ADDRESSED THIS STORY? It is apparent that none of the Imagine Supporters have ever watched American Greed on A&E. Each story is full of conmen and women who sometimes live for years in secrecy as they commit massive fraud. They start out small and eventually end up like Bernie Madoff, Enron, Stanford, Stream, etc. This guy Trent has a trail of DEBT, DEBT, DEBT. Are the Imagine Supporters blind or what???

I went to one of the Imagine International seminars and the room had at best 6 people including the speaker. No one signed up and this guy Trent showed up with his wife and talked about being these multi-millionaires. How could Trent not pay his business debts if is a multi-millionaire?

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#16 Consumer Comment

IMAGINE SUPPORTERS PLEASE STOP THIS!!!!

AUTHOR: The Imagine Supporters Group - (USA)

I love Imagine International and I hate to see what this lunatic is saying about our founders, but please think about what you are doing by responding to him.

Trent and Sarah have taught us to not get distracted and stay focused on what is important.  If there is time to respond to Tariq, then there is time to listen to the trainings, work on our credit, make phone calls to build our businesses, etc.

Let this little boy have his tantrum and let's support the mission by doing what we have been trained to do by Trent and Sarah.  Let's succeed!

It is obvious this guy wants to see failure for Trent, Joanne and Sarah.  They cannot fail.  This concept and company is too big.  This ripoffreport.com website is a glorified gossip column and that is why he is on here because he is a coward.  Real men work out their differences and don't go to a website.  He is such a simple black man.  GOD! I hate when black men play into the stereotype of being petty, weak and spineless. 

We as Advisors in Imagine International do not have to stoop to his level. Tariq is a person we all know to be jealous of what Trent has achieved in his life.  I personally believe that Tariq has anger for Trent because so many of us women are willing to listen to him.

Trent may have had some past business and personal failures. I think that heppened because he seems to reach very high in everything he does.  I want to be there when he HITS BIG.  Failures are ESSENTIAL FOR SUCCESS! 

Who cares if Trent went to prison?  Who cares if he's been sued?  We shop at stores and do business with companies everyday that have been sued. 

Tariq is only doing what DEVILS and, unfortunately a lot of MUSLIMS do.  They try to divide and destroy and they celebrate when other people suffer while they talk about peace be with you .... PLEASE! 

Maybe Trent and Sarah have had financial struggles and I respect them for still moving forward.  They have never showed anger or pause with us, even after Tariq sent that horrible email that mocked Sarah's illness.  That is why I respect them so. 

Tariq is begging people not to listen to Trent.  He is wasting his time because I have followed Trent since my first day at the Marriott when I had my kids there to listen to him as well. Personal issues do not matter .... I would still let Tiger Woods teach me to play Golf. 

Please everyone, let's not take anymore time on this man who seems to hate so deeply. 

I myself just ordered $281 worth of iPacs to give to a charity that helps battered women enhance their self-esteem.  I joined the Imagine Supporters Group email list because I know what it's like to do something big and have someone else try to tear it up.  But I also know Trent and Sarah would not expect this kind of mindless chatter from us either. They want us to win and not be distracted. Whoever attacked Abigail in the above comment was way out of line.  We can't condemn her or mistreat her because of her man.  If she loves him, she most likely has seen softer, gentle and more caring sides of him that we are not privy to.  She should not be attacked for that. That is a Tariq move! He obviously is okay with attacking Sarah and Joanne.  I will not be like him.  Abigail, I apologize for the person who said those things about you. 

Trent and Sarah literally saved my life and I want to support them by showing them how awesome I have become since they showed up in my life.  None of us ever went to Tariq for counsel.  Why?  He has nothing to offer!

Please people, Imagine International is just fine.  Leave Tariq be because we all saw him in action and we know what he has been about since the first time Trent put him in front of us. 

HE IS A FAKER AND HE IS HERE TO DECEIVE AND DESTROY.  HE IS A MUSLIM AND WE HAVE SEEN WHAT MANY OF THEM ARE ABOUT!

Let's rise above the distraction and stay focused on progress and let Tariq consume himself with anger and hatred. I stand behind Joanne, Sarah, Trent and Imagine International.  I am in for the LONG HAUL and I'M LOVING IT!!!! 

Merry Christmas Everyone

Sincerely,
SCJ
Houston

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#17 Consumer Comment

I am an Imagine International Investor!

AUTHOR: The Imagine Supporters Group - (USA)

I am an investor in Imagine International and I am now an Imagine Supporter.  I just want to say a few things.

1. Everyone has a past and if Mr. Daniel paid his dues then that's what matters. He told me about everything you mentioned in your comment BEFORE I invested.  I like doing business with people who have failed and made mistakes because that means they know suffering and how to overcome it.  I don't condone Trent's past, but I do respect his tenacity in going to prison and still coming out with this awesome company. 

2. I did a look up of Holton Buggs, and I know he is a self-made millionaire who is one of the most successful MLMers in Texas and there are people on this site also bashing him so it looks like Mr. Daniel is in good company.

3. I have had 2 businesses that failed and I was also sued, does that mean I should not ever start another business? Businesses don't pay bills on time all of the time.  That's just business.  Do you have an 830 credit score?  If not, who didn't you pay?

4. As an investor I attended the trial against Engenyx and the lady only sued him for fraud because he did not let her do her job.  She only got $2900 when she asked for $450,000.  She never claimed Trent took money from her.  She also sued because she was fired.  I was one of the shareholders who voted to fire her and we knew we would lose the lawsuit, but we got rid of a bad employee. 

5. As an investor, I can never really expect a guaranteed return but I do expect what I have seen from Trent and Joanne and that is the fact that they never stop moving forward.  I love that!

6. Did you come on to Trent's wife?  She is such a class act and I am sure when she turned you down it bruised your ego.

7.  Do you think Imagine International is failing?  iPhone App, amazing website, business credit webinars, and celebrity endorsements?  HMMM... Doesn't sound like a company going under to me.

8.  Martha Stewart, Kevin Trudeau, Michael Milken went to prison.  I wish I could invest with them. 

9.  I also saw on this site that Mary Kay, Pre-Paid Legal, Amway, ACN and many other major companies have people like you complaining - again GOOD COMPANY. 

10. On a recent conference call we laughed at you prior to the call and Trent and Sarah blasted us.  They said for us to talk about you on the call was to give in to what you seem to want to do --- distract people from the real mission.  We are soooooo not distracted.  We just think it's funny how you use big words in the wrong way.  Must be that El Reno Jr. College education of yours.  What's up with that?

Couple of questions for you.

1. You claimed to be a business credit, personal credit expert on your linked page (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tariq-abdul-hadi/16/134/527).  Any references or proof of that expertise.  Or are you just taking what Trent taught you and claiming that as your expert experience.

2.  You seem to obsessed with this website.  What do you do to create income for yourself?  I know Trent, Joanne and Sarah are building this business.

3.  Your linked in profile says Truck Driver and Grocery store man.  WOW! What a powerful resume!  I see why you don't understand the financial dynamics of building a business. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tariq-abdul-hadi/16/134/527

4. Is your fiance, Abigail, proud of what your are doing here?  If she is, she needs to get some counseling.  We have enough silly ass sisters out there who follow silly ass men into anything. 

I would tell my husband to stop making a fool of himself and file a lawsuit.

I asked Trent why he does not respond to you on this page and he said something that sent chills up my spine.  He said, "MASSIVE SUCCESS IS THE BEST RESPONSE POSSIBLE".

Wow!  I think you could learn alot from Him.

Anyway, enough time on you. You seem to be another crybaby who wants to try to tear down what you KNOW you could have never created in a million years.

IMAGINE INTERNATIONAL ROCKS ---- new iPhone app coming in March!

www.imagineinternational.biz

MERRY CHIRSTMAS. ;-)




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#18 Author of original report

STAYING FOCUSED

AUTHOR: Tariq - (United States of America)

While all of the rebuttals of the Imagine International Supporters seem to be genuine responses of individuals who truly care about Imagine International, I will not try to argue for or against their opinions. The egregious acts claimed by Imagine International are simply not true and the attacks of Imagine International on my character have certainly been expected. 
None of the statements being offered by persons calling themselves the Imagine Supporters, should be taken as statements of fact in this matter as they are unaware of the personal statements of Trent T. Daniel involving this matter and others wherein which will prove that Trent T. Daniel is an unethical businessman. 
My fight is not with the Imagine International Supporters many of whom I do not know. My fight is with Imagine International Inc., Trent Thompson Daniel, Corinda Joanne Melton, and Sarah Marie Daniel. It is these three individuals who have reaped countless benefits from unsuspecting people who were taken into the hype of a purported vision of success with individuals who do not represent it.

Many people who are responding are critical of me and I wonder have they considered that in 2008 Trent was the then Vice-President of Engenyx Software Corporation as its Vice-President (a title he likes to use to create a symbol of importance for himself), was convicted by a jury of his peers of FRAUD. Engenyx didn't commit FRAUD, Trent did. Again I repeat, ENGENYX DIDN'T COMMIT FRAUD, TRENT THOMPSON DANIEL DID. That act of FRAUD cost that company and Trent over $485K in a civil judgment. None of which has Trent paid. Is it really that far fetched to think that this same Trent Thompson Daniel wouldn't commit FRAUD again? 

Does Imagine International deny that it was removed from the Marriot Hotel @ Westchase in Houston, TX for failing to pay over $3k in bills for conference room leasing cost?

Does Trent deny that there are several civil judgments against him dating back to 2001? Also, does Trent deny that those judgments, the 2008 judgment of Engenyx, the Federal Tax Lien, and his failure to pay the required fees associated with several businesses he incorporated and/or formed as LLC's, HAVE NOT BEEN PAID? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT LEAST $550K OF DEBT THAT TRENT HAS PERSONALLY AND BUSINESS COMBINED!!!

Public record shows also that Trent has been to prison for CREDIT CARD ABUSE & FORGERY OF A FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT. These are crimes of FRAUD, Trent was perpetrating to be someone he wasn't.

Lastly to address the former Clark county prosecutor; I am well aware of the due process of law, I am also aware that at such time that there ever is a trial for any of the ludicrous claims of Imagine International, I will be afforded at that time to present all of the prima facie evidence against Trent and Imagine International in my defense and the DA will listen. I am also in no way trying to place myself above reproach, I am merely doing one thing that most people don't want to do and that is stick to the issues at hand. I have no desire to have an audience follow this story just to be heard launching a barrage of baseless attacks against Trent and/or Imagine International. 

Sensationalism is what drives the media outlets and millions of people each day are distracted from the real issues that affect our world to chase behind fabricated tangents all secretly created by the guilty to get the focus off of themselves. 

I am not guilty of ANY CRIMES, I have simply stepped forward to expose a corrupt system. 

Trent has raised several hundreds of thousands of dollars from well over 25 different investors and no business venture led by Trent as invested in by these investors has become a success of any kind. 

The products of Imagine International are the former products of Engenyx Software, the company aforementioned to have recently lost the $485K civil judgment. 

Rather than attack me, the Imagine Supporters should also consider the RipOff Report #524771 filed by WBP that details the unpaid debt of Imagine International and how the WBP states that it CANNOT RECOMMEND DOING BUSINESS WITH MR. DANIEL. To read this report just input Trent Daniel in the search box. 

The longer a person stands in front of Trent Daniel or gives him an ear to listen to the stories coming out of his mouth, the more confident Trent becomes and the more people he will deceive, don't you be another one of his victims.

If I have a date in court I take pleasure in knowing one very important thing, Trent will be there also, and not as just a spectator. 
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#19 Consumer Comment

Mr. Tariq - Your legal perspective may be in error.

AUTHOR: The Imagine Supporters Group - (USA)

I am a former Clark county prosecutor and my Husband and I relocated to Houston 2 years ago.  I am a part of Imagine International and was told about this Imagine Supporters group a few days ago. I have not had bad experiences with Imagine International and am only going to respond to what Mr. Tariq (you) said about not being contacted by law enforcement.  

If it is true that you tried to extort the company or it's executives, typically, the investigating detectives/ agents would not communicate with you. In our investigations (especially if the feds were involved) we only talked if we absolutely needed to. Remember, you are the suspect and the DA's don't care what you have to say if the evidence supports charges being brought against you.

Based on the seriousness of an Extortion charge and the fact that you have not been contacted by the authorities there is a strong possibility that your case will be (or has been) referred to the Grand Jury by investigating detectives/ agents without your input because the evidence alone is/was strong enough to secure an indictment.

In this type of of case, typically, you will only hear from authorities if the Grand Jury finds the evidence compelling enough to indict you. If so, the arrest warrant will go out and then you will hear from the authorities. But it won't be for your side of the story it will be to serve the warrant.

Extortion is not hard to prove if your demand for money was written, text messaged, emailed or recorded. I don't know what the details of this case are but I think your apparent cockiness may be unwarranted.  

You seem to be so interested in making yourself seem above reproach but I am wondering why you did not address the extortion claim in this report?  Did you try to extort money from the company, Mr. Tariq? To me that is the most serious allegation made in the other Imagine Supporters email.

Read the David Letterman or Bill Cosby story.  Those were both extortion cases and the guilty parties were never contacted by authorities prior to their arrest.

Anyway Mr. Tariq .... Good Luck. It sounds like you may need it.

E. S.
Imagine Supporter
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#20 Consumer Comment

Tariq Abdul-Hadi, You Are RIDICULOUS! I am, and always will be an IMAGINE INTERNATIONAL SUPPORTER!

AUTHOR: C. Davis - (United States of America)



I am ashamed to admit that I was one of the ones on Tariqs band wagon at first, but after my own research and continued involvement with Imagine International, I am so grateful that I came to my senses!  I mean I almost allowed the likes of you to interfere with my hopes and dreams as part of Imagine International. 



I am a firm believer that everything in life happens for a reason and it seems that the company is bigger & better without YOU in it!  It is becoming clearer, that you were and still are a jealous, arrogant, cocky, full-of-yourself, legend in your own mind wanna be. Your display is unfortunately typical in our community. You truly are what white men dream about.  I am convinced that you didnt want to be a part of the vision, but instead you wanted to be the vision!



You are nothing more than a Judas. 



Yes, I did a little research on my own about you, and if Imagine International is so bad then why are you stealing and riding on the coattail of the companys mission.  It is not a goal of yours to educate 1 million people on personal & business credit by December 31, 2010, that IS the IMAGINE INTERNATIONAL COMPANY VISION & MISSION!  You are in no way an identity theft expert, business credit profile builder, or personal credit improvement expert!  Trust me, I sat in your trainings and you are nowhere near any of that.  And your team in Houston, TX consists of you, you & you.  If you ask me, YOU ARE THE FRAUD!



Your little bitchy, childish rampage succeeded in doing a couple of things; Making us stronger, better and an even more driven and cohesive than before and 2) Getting rid of the turncoats and dead weight, starting with you!





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Imagine Supporters Allege A Smoke Screen Defense

AUTHOR: Tariq - (United States of America)

While the Imagine Supporters claim that Tariq Abdul-Hadi achieved the highest pay position by purchasing inventory with a stolen credit card, let it be emphatically clear that Tariq Abdul-Hadi does not and has not used any stolen credit cards ever. Secondly to all fellow consumers, THIS COMPANY IS A SHAM AND IS STILL OUT TO GET YOU!!!
Imagine International has never alleged any of the claims issued in the rebuttal of the Imagine Supporters prior to Tariq Abdul-Hadi EXPOSING THE FRAUDULENT BEHAVIOR OF IMAGINE INTERNATIONAL. Also it should be noted that any claims of possible police reports filed against Tariq Abdul-Hadi are also dated after the release of the information exposing Imagine International and are baseless and have no merit. 
It should also be noted that no-one can achieve a pay position with this company by purchasing any inventory THEMSELVES. If Imagine International however wants the audience of this forum to believe that, then they would be admitting that they never had any true business structure and were nothing more than a PYRAMID SCHEME!!! If pay positions can be bought what does the company do in the form of legitimate business? Did Imagine International create a structure where someone could buy themselves through the company? The TRUTH be told, Imagine International didn't have the money to pay the commissions of the structure that it created because it honestly never thought that anyone would ever achieve them (that is outside of their inner circle). Next if Imagine International is an ethical business that cares about the public, it should be willing to prove with factual documented evidence, of any occurrence wherein merchandise was purchased from Imagine International with a stolen credit card. They should also disclose whether or not they lost any revenues from any such claimed transaction, have they identified the person who they assert the stolen credit card belonged to, have they reported this activity to the local authorities with supporting affidavits and finally are they willing to testify in court that they are aware and/or witnessed a crime being committed in relation to this alleged conduct? The answer is no my fellow American Consumers, Imagine international can do none of the above because none of this ever happened and the leaders as well as the Imagine Supporters know that it didn't. Please be advised that as of this writing Tariq Abdul-Hadi has not been contacted by any personnel of any law enforcement agency with regards to any of the alleged misconduct stated in Imagine International's rebuttal.
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#22 Consumer Comment

This is SOOOO STUPID!!!!

AUTHOR: C.C. - (United States of America)

This is such BS!!!!!

I hate it that this company has to deal with these kind of people.  I actually stopped coming to training events because of this Tariq being promoted to a trainer in the company.  He speaks like he's retarded.  He emphasizes every word like he is some type of Shakesperian actor.  What a joke!!! 

He really irks me and he has always been jealous of Trent and Sarah. 

Imagine International is a good company that has provided an education that my small business needed and I am proud to be a part of this business.

What the hell does Mr. Daniel's past mistakes have to do with what he is doing now?!!

My GOD TARIQ !!! Get a F*&king LIFE.




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Another Hater Rears his Ugly Head!

AUTHOR: M. Evans - (United States of America)

I have been a representative of this business for almost 6 months and I have been more than impressed with the way the company founders have handled the growth of this business.  It really pisses me off to see the way this Tariq person has tried to bash the company. 

Anyone who joined this business knew it was the first year and also knew that the company was young.  I have never experienced a late paycheck from the company and I do believe I would know since I have been getting high three to low four figure checks every month. 

I also know the person who filed this report and Tariq Abdul-Hadi is certainly not someone to be trusted.  I overheard him many times trying to undercut the leadership in this business and also trying to recruit representatives into other businesses.  I do not dislike him, but I do know he has been bad for the business since the day he showed up.

We as part of the leadership never listened to him in his trainings and really saw right through him.  One thing I was surprised to learn is that he had sexually harassed the President of the company.  I was surprised to hear that because I know his fiancee and he are seemingly very close.  I also noticed that he tried to put on a show that he and her were like the co-founder and his wife.  FAKE FAKE FAKE!

Anyway, If you are silly enough to allow this report to sway you form Imagine International you are just the type of person this company does not want anyway.  Imagine International has a great product and really helps people who take advantage of what it has to offer.  The founders have always supported us and our growth, but have never made promises they did not keep.

It's a new company and if they have had financial problems, I know they are no different than thousands of other companies out there.

As far as Tariq is concerned.  He needed to be out of the business because he always tried to act like the co-founder and we all saw that.  He never understood that he will never be anyone other than who he is.  He is not a bad guy ... he just has a bad case of the wanna-bes. 

There is only one co-founder of Imagine International and my wife and I support him, his wife and the President of the company because we know what it's like when someone is jealous and tries to destroy what he did not help to build.

Imagine International is a company like no other and I appreciate Mr. Daniel for having the guts to put himself out there even though he has had troubles in the past.  It does not bother me that he has been to prison.  We all have done something. He just got caught.  No big deal to me.  I would rather deal with someone who admits his past than someone who tries to pretend he is something he isn't. 

And one more thing!  If Tariq used a stolen credit card and got busted, why is he trying to get money he obviously does not deserve.  HMMMMMM!

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Tariq Abdul-Hadi Extortion Attempt

AUTHOR: The Imagine Supporters Group - (United States of America)

It should be noted that the person who filed this report, Mr. Tariq Abdul-Hadi, attempted to extort over $7,000 from Imagine International Inc. and is currently under investigation by Texas state and federal authorities for extortion and attempted theft by extortion.  Police report numbers can be obtained upon request by emailing imaginesupporters@gmail.com. 

The attorney representing the company is Connie B. Williams in Houston, Texas.  He is a former prosecutor in Harris County, Texas and high profile attorney.

Also, it should be noted that the person who filed this report achieved the highest pay position in the company by purchasing products with a stolen credit card.

---  The company refused to pay his commissions based on his fraudulently paying his way through the compensation plan.

---  Mr. Abdul-Hadi also had his email address tariqabdulhadi@hotmail.com shut down by Hotmail abuse department for sending sexually harrassing emails to the President of Imagine International.

---  Mr. Abdul-Hadi also requested that the co-founder of the company create a fake corporation for him so he could use a stolen credit report from a person in Michigan to obtain an American Express Card.  When this request was refused, Mr. Abdul-Hadi contacted another business credit development expert in Houston to commit the same crime.  He was also refused. 

While Mr. Abdul-Hadi's statements are correct about the Imagine International websites these down times were due to security enhancements the company was making.  Detailed logs of the website uptimes and downtimes are available at imaginesupporters@gmail.com

Mr. Abdul-Hadi's assertions that the software offered by Imagine International does not work is inaccurate and the company offers a FREE demo for those to draw that conclusions themselves. 

Also, if the software did not work, how did Mr. Abdul-Hadi achieve the highest level in the company?

People, do your own research and do not just take the word of an anonymous person who only has bad things to say.  If Imagine International is not for you, that's fine, but think for yourself and make fact based decisions.

Sincerely,

Imagine Supporters


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