ED Magedson – Founder
IncFortuneFlower Street Los Angeles, California United States of America
Let me start off by saying that im a former employee who quit. Heres the deal with INCFORTUNE/PUSHTRAFFIC: When i started with the company a few months ago the name was PushTraffic. they changed the name becasue if you google pushtraffic you get all these scam reports. But the only differnce between push traffic and IncFortune is the name. Its the same office with all the same people and practices. They are a "Internet Services" company. What they do is get a list of leads from a 3rd party sometimes "secret affiliatecode" or "cashsecrets" But these 3rd parties sign ppl up for a product and then pass those ppls information on to INCFORTUNE/PUSHTRAFFIC. What happens next is, someone from INCFORTUNE/PUSHTRAFFIC will call that person and try to sign them up. I know this because i actually worked there and did all this. after we got in touch with that client thats when the fraud started. the goal was to get the persons credit card number and a signed contract back. the way they had us do this was by any means necesary.
Pretty much every word out of the salesmans mouth was a lie execpt for the name of the company. they lie about who they are. I personally witnessed the Managers get on the phone with a prespective client and tell them they are whoever they wanted to be. BTW the sales manager's real name is "TED MOLINA" and the owner's real name is "JOHN RAYGOZA" once they gain enough trust from the client is when the sales pitch started. This is where it really got shady. they would tell the client all about the earnigns they will make when they sign up. (they dont actually have clients that make their fee's back) they tell them that the company has all these trade secrets and working relationships with google which of course they dont work with goolge or any other search engine. And that when you sign up the company will get your website onto google's search page. they would tell the client that they will fly them out to Malibu and put them up in John R.'s mansion. This would only rarely happen with clients that spend at least 10,000 dollars. I remember once Ted Molina got on the phone with a woman named Deborah Cormmode and told her that he was someone else and that he would make her all this money but all he needed was here credit card number. When she did finally give him the cc number he charged her card several times while she was on hold.
The charge added up to 10,000 dollars. they did this pretty much every sale. When they take the client off hold they would say "contragualtions youve been approved for $X" but what they really did was charge the card until it was maxed out before telling the client what they were doing. I always thought this was very sneaky. Any way after that they would email a contract (sometimes fax) get it back signed and pretty much ignore the client after that. The contract also has many confidentially clauses so the client cant tell anyone about what has happned. I found that the contract gennerylly protects the compnay form lawuits and doenst protect the client much at all. Another wierd thing about it all is that the price wasnt fixed. THe company would charge you based on the credit limit on your card for the exact same service. so a client worth $1000 would get the same service as a $20,000 client. The only real service a client would get is coaching and tips on how to physically build a website. After that your on your own. But what they tell you is that they will advertise your site and make sure your ear X amount. THis is another flat out lie. All that is how they screw their clients. They also screw their employees. If a client cancels at anytime the compnay takes that money out of your check and keeps their portion.
I should have mentioned that when a client cancels they dont get all their money back but only 15% as stated in the contract. Also Ted Molina is just all around a shady/bad manager. He not only lies to his clients but to his employees. Once he told me that one of my client had canceld and was taking that money back. when i invesitgated on my own i found that that was a flat lie and my client never even asked to cancel. what i supect he was trying to do was to keep the money for himself. but i cant prove that. When i told him about he told me that he would "look into it" Ha. right. ANyway my last paycheck before i quit which they still owe to me i suspect was stolen. O and more on Ted his official job was a sales manager. but all i say him do was walk around the office, play pingpong, go to the bar (alot) and make a few sales calls a day. then he would go home. honestly i think his "job" wasnt necessary. Ok this is all i can think of about my expirence with this so called "company" I hope that you read this and hang up on any call from IncFortune. and incase they change theyre name again read over their procedure and reconize any similarites. also DONT EVER GIVE OUT YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER OVER THE PHONE. you wont believe how many people would do this.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 08/29/2009 05:08 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/IncFortune/Los-Angeles-California-/IncFortune-PushTraffic-IncFortune-Ted-Molina-John-Paul-Raygoza-They-ripped-me-off-just-487186. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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