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  • Submitted: Tue, November 10, 2009
  • Updated: Tue, November 16, 2010

  • Reported By: Babypops — Rainbow Texas United States of America
johny mark morgan
955 W. Genesee Ave. Apt M salt lake city, Utah United States of America

johny mark morgan johny mark morgan (doesnt exist) Gypsy Vanner SCAM salt lake city, Utah

*Consumer Comment: Scam artist now using alias of Anna Ragas

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: It's Not Johny Mark Morgan or Anne Celkova. It's Jacob Zoe .

*Consumer Comment: Now operating as Anne Celkova

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This person is non existing but his story is believable beyond any story that you have heard. He uses a story that a cousin or a daughter has been killed in a car wreck and that they can not stand the thought of being around the animal any longer that he makes him crazy and depressed. He says for a certain amount you can adopt one of these beautiful animals. He then goes and steals pictures from websites that sell these beautiful horses known as Gypsy Vanners or Gypsy Cobs or Gyspy Drum Horses. He or these people then  place ads on the internet on different places where horses are sold to the unsuspecting internet community. Once he places the ad he will wait until you respond and then he will email you back that you and a number of people have the opportunity to "adopt" the horse for the cost of the shipping fee to where ever you live. He notifies the "shipping company" and the "shipping company" notifies you where you will be sending this money. usually overseas.  and then the "shipping company" will notify you of the insurance that they need in order to get the horse across state lines and then they send another email stating that they need vaccines for the horse and then they try and get more money for the horse to pay at the "first check point". The shipping company does exist but this group of people are so brazen they have stolen all of the ligitiment companys' logos and most of the wording of the contracts. and use it to make it look ligit. The "shipping company and Mr. Morgan" are in this together they make it look and sound ligit until you dont receive the horse or the money back. And then they just disappear. As I promised these people I would do what ever it takes to shut their business down permantely. That I will not allow this to happen to anyone else, horse owner or consumer.

 

 


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#1 Consumer Comment

Scam artist now using alias of Anna Ragas

AUTHOR: BW RN - (United States of America)

This person is now using the alias "Anna Ragas" with the same address of 955 W Genesee Avenue, Apt B, Salt Lake City Utah. We were almost taken in by this scam last week (11/12/10). Here is the ad from Horsefinders.com:


King Williams Breed Galice?o Gender Gelding Age 4 y.o. Height 15.2 hands Color Pinto Price $1,000 OBO (USD) Contact Anna Ragas Phone 000-000-0000 Location Farmington, KY Country United States. Description King williams is a talented willing Gypsy Horse geldings.He is just under 15.2hh at four and a half years old. He is a very loving boy and will do anything to just be around people. He also gets along well with other horses. If you want bone, this boy has it. He is also very flashy.He would make the perfect child's horse. He has a friendly and loving personality and is fun to ride.King williams is one of the BEST trained Gypsy Vanner geldings we have had for western riding. He has had 1.5 years of professional western training. This horse needs to be in the show ring to follow in his father's "hoof steps". He is a reining horse, and he does sliding, etc. we are unable to look after King williams now due to the death of our lovely daughter and the ill health of my husband. we are willing to give out King williams for a free home adoption to any caring horse lover. we care about his new home and so we need someone serious in owning him. Disciplines Dressage Western Pleasure Endurance Riding Beginner/Family Jumper Trained Champion Prospect Trained Trained.


I was looking up the address under Mix yards at this address in my search engine, and the first report listed here is what came up. Thanks so much for posting it! They wanted money up front for transportation and that's when I knew for sure it was a scam. They asked for $1,000 upfront for transport before they even knew where we live. We had a Clydesdale gelding transported from Saskatchewan, Canada, last New Year's Eve, and it was only $600.00 plus $150.00 border crossing fees and we were not expected to pay until the horse was delivered (of course, that was a reputable company).  My husband was so disappointed. We have since bought a draft cross gelding that is perfect for him. Thank you all again for reporting this scam. I would love for these people to spend a lot of time in jail for what they are doing.

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

It's Not Johny Mark Morgan or Anne Celkova. It's Jacob Zoe .

AUTHOR: Debbie - (United States of America)

Hello

Thanks for the inquiry.  Got your mail in regards to the friesian gelding horse up or adoption, this it to let you know wht the horse is still available.  He is called billy, Please let me tell you some details about billy, he lives with me under a shed of a mix yard behind my home.  He was born on Oct 23,2003.  billy has been worked with from birth and has wonderful manner, ground, stable, and saddle.  He has been trail-ridden extensively, and crosses water, Covered bridges, rides alone or with othersl  Billy was trained to drive by me when he was just 2 year old.  He is 16.2 HH; he is very calm and adores playing with kids, adults and other house-hold pets.  He loves taking rides, he loves people and enjoys being groomed and bathed.  He does everything you asked of him.

W are presently here in Utah for a 9 months church project and we just rented a home here at 955 w Genesee Ave Apt M, Salt Lake City, UT 84104 We have plans on staying here for sometime.  You are more than welcome to visit us at any moment.  We are a very welcoming family.  I am giving the horse up for adoption because my 18 yrs old daughter (Cole Tyra) who was taking care of him and make me breed himfrom when he was two months old but she (Cole) passed away months ago through a car accident when she was on her way back from her piano classes and I'm really tired of staying around with billy.  I thought having billy always around me will replace the place of my daughter but it does not seem so and right now, I'm willing to give out billy to anyone that wishes to own a beautiful friesain horse like him.  Moeover the occupying nature of my job does not permit me to keep billy and I will like to start a new life without horses in my llife again.  Giving billy out to another home will be a way of wiping Cole's memories from my head which is making me distrubed each time I think of her.  To adopt billy, I will like to know this from you.

Are you a breeder?  Have you had a horse before?  Will you be willing to send me some regular pictures of billy so we can see his progress?  How soon will you want to have him transported to you if you find difficulties to come for the pick-up?  Have you own a horse before???  Have you any plans of owning him of to resell him to someone???  Where do you live that is you full name, state,city, postal code, home address, phone number?

As for your futher training of billy, I will also be sending you some Basic guidelines to you via email, so that you follow as soon as he arrives you.  If you have any more question to ask, just let know.  I will also like to know when you will like to have him transported to you or you will come for his pick up.  Do have a nice day and get back to me at you convenience.  Stay blessed like I said if I have to deliver him to you, he will be safe as he will come along with people who will take great care of him as he gets to your home, billy will just be so comfortable.  You are to pay just $400 as his transport charges to have him to your home address  Each time I try to give billy out, I feel so bad and hurt due to my daughter's death now and all I wish for now is someone with good future of billy.  Sorry if this bothers you but I most tell you that I'm in tears already writing this mail.  I will like to leave now, just get back to me.  I had made arrangements in respect to billy's delivery to you if we decide that you will bewcome the new owner of billy.  So you need not be bothered about how to receive him if we choose you to own him.  I will be expecting to read from you soon.  Please I will like to know more about you and your experiences with horses and how best you can provide billy with the best home.  Thank.  I could always sen you pictures if you ask for.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Now operating as Anne Celkova

AUTHOR: dreamquete - (United States of America)

I have an update for this scam. This person is also operating as Anna Celkova, same story. I am pasting in the email I received in response to an inquiry I placed on equinenow.com. This ad showed up in an Indiana listing along with a similar one in a Minnesota listing. Of course the email states the horse is in Salt Lake City. I just want everyone to be aware that the scam is still going on, and the person has changed the name and email address to Anna Celkova. I hope someone catches this person soon.

Cheryl

Anna Celkova <annacelkova@yahoo.com> 
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Hello
     Thanks for the inquiry. Got your mail in regards
To the Gypsy Vanner gelding up for adoption.we are giving him
out to an adoptive home where he can be loved and cared for.
This is to let you know that the horse is still available.
He is call Royal Joe. Pls let me tell you some details about Royal Joe,
He lives with me under a shed of a mix yard behind my home .he was
Born on May 1 2003.Royal Joe has been worked with from birth
And has wonderful manners, ground, stable, and saddle.
He has been trail-ridden extensively, and crosses water,
Covered bridges, rides alone or with others.Royal Joe
Was trained to drive by me as a 2 year old. he is 16.1HH
He is very calm and adores playing with kids, adults, and
Other house hold pets. He loves taking rides.he loves people and
enjoys being groomed and bathed.he does everything you asked of him.
This guy can move too and can perfectly swim across the water with ease.
We are presently here in Utah for a 9months church project
And we just rented a home here at 955 W Genesee Ave Apt M,Salt Lake
City, UT 84104
.We has plans on staying here for sometime.
You are more than welcome to visit us at any moment. we are a very
Welcoming family. I am giving the horse up for adoption because my
23yrs old daughter
(maria Bonita ) who was taking care of him and make me breed him from when he was two months old passed away a
Month ago through a car accident When she was on her way back from her piano classes and i'm read tired of staying around with him.
i thought having Royal Joe always around me will replace the place of my daughter but it's not seeming so and right now,
I'm willing to give him to anyone that wishes to own a beautiful gypsy horse like him. So the occupying nature of my job does not permit me to keep Royal Joe and i will like to start a new life without horses in my life again..Giving Royal Joe out to another home will be a way of wiping Maria's memories from my head which is making me disturbed each time I think of her.
To adopt him, I will like to know this from you.

Are you a breeder?
Have you had a horse before?
Will you be willing to send me some regular pics of Royal Joe so we can
See his progress. .?
How soon will you want to have him transported to you if you find
Difficulties to come for the pickup?
have you own a horse before???
have you any plans of owning him or to resell him to someone???
we do you live or where will you like to board him?????
we like to know where you are located by providing us with
your full names,state,city,postal code,home address and phone numbers.


As for your further training of Royal Joe, I will also be sending you some
Basic guidelines to you via email, so that you follow as soon as he arrives You.
If you have any more questions to ask, just
Let me know. Will also like to know when you will like to have him.
Attached to this mail are the pics of the horse.
Do have a nice day and get back to me at your Convenience.
Stay blessed like I said if I have to deliver him
He will be safe as he will come along with people who
Will take great care of him as he gets to your
Home, he will just be so comfortable.i will like to have you paid just $1000 for his Transport charges to your home address.
please i will appreciate if i talk less more about Royal Joe because each time i try to give Royal Joe out,i feel so bad and hurt due to my daughter's death.
Sorry if this bother you but i most tell you that I'm in tears already writing this mail.i will like to leave now
..anyway just let me know if the price is OK by you and just get back to me.i had made arrangements in respect to Royal Joe's delivery and so you need not be bothered about how to receive him.
I will be expecting to read from you soon.
Thanks
Anna Celkova





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