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Complaint Review: Larry Loik Complete Marketing Systems Real Estate - Las Vegas Nevada

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  • Larry Loik Complete Marketing Systems Real Estate 11700 W. Charleston Blvd 170-503 Las Vegas , Nevada USA

Larry Loik Complete Marketing Systems Real Estate Larry Loik ReIn Club-Real Estate Investor Network, Larry Loik VIP Master Mind BEWARE: Larry Loik is a total CON-ARTIST Las Vegas Nevada

*UPDATE Employee ..inside information: LORI DENNIS- NEW INTERIOR DESIGNER

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Watch out for this guy.  He's a slick con-man who puts the full court press on you to pay his bill upfront and then does no work.

My husband and I were referred to Larry Loik by another Internet Marketer who is a good friend.  Specifically we were interested in FBA coaching (Fullfillment by Amzon)  After our initial, complimentary info call, we signed a year contract including services ranging from weekly calls, entry to his multi-day conference, his escorting us to walk the floor at tradeshows, meeting with product vendors, unlimited emails and cell phone calls for questions, and various other services. The cost was $10,000.

After signing the contract, Larry presented a questionaire to fill out prior to our first phone meeting.  During the call it was obvious that he did not read the questionaire, repeatedly asked us questions that had already been answered in the questionair. He had not prepared for our meeting at all and instead was spouting of general information, unrelated at all to what we hired him for and blowing through the hour call without any benefit to us at all.

This "information" was identical to the intial talk we had when he was selling his services to us.  To top it off, he was eating loudly throughout the meeting.  It was the most unprofessional "meeting" we have ever attended and a total waste of our time.  

Because we only had one call per week, we spent 3 hours to thoughtfully and succintly answer his in depth questionaire in an effort to maximize our productivity during the call.  

During the meeting it became obvious that he had not prepared and had not read our questionaire. We asked why he had not reviewed the questionaire and had not prepared for the meeting. He gave a lot of excuses about how the questionaire wasn't relevant, avoided answering our concerns and kept insisting that we were sure to make lots of money with his coaching.  By the end of the call, we knew we had been had.

We expressed concerns about the fact that he discussed just about every kind of Internet Marketing platform out there, but told us NOTHING about Amazon FBA, the only thing he was hired to do.  His explanation was that Amazon FBA wasn't a good idea, because it could be turned off at anytime by Amazon. We were obviously in shock that he would say this after he demanded that we wire $10,000 to him immediately so he could begin a personalized Amazon FBA strategy for us.

After the only call  we sent our concerns in writing. It took him 4 days to respond to our multiple emails, calls and text messages.  We told him we didn't think this was a good fit and that we'd like to cancel.  Although he did nothing for us, we generously agreed to pay him for the phone meeting.  Our contract states that in the case of termination the refunds of money will be prorated for the remaining time on the contract. We used 1 of 52 weeks, his should have billed us $190. But  Larry made up new rules for his payment. 

Before sending the money back, he tried to get  us to transfer the money to "his partner", Dr. Brian Bruno. When we realized the only way we would ever get our money back was to actually talk to Dr. Brian,  we did and told them both-  "no thanks, please return our money". 

Larry finally mailed the check back to us and took $2,000 for "consulting fees".  He made up a number for hourly services that we never agreed to and billed us for 4 hours of work that he never did. 

We told him that unless he returned our money, we would be suing him in Las Vegas, where he resides. His repsonse was that it would take too much money and time for us to go after him, so we should forget it.  Fortunately my brother is a litagator in Las Vegas and it won't take very much to get a judgement against Larry Loik.

He is a con-artist, a thief, a fraud and you should stay clear of him and his scams.

 

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#1 UPDATE Employee ..inside information

LORI DENNIS- NEW INTERIOR DESIGNER

AUTHOR: CMS Inc - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, October 30, 2015

Hello here are FACTS  about LORI DENNIS, who she is and the REALITY of the situation.

This website basically allows trolls to spew venom & lies without fact check by this website
and background checks on the persons posting a complaint.

REPLIES BELOW IN CAPS TO HER COMMENTS.

Watch out for this guy.  He's a slick con-man who puts the full court press on you to pay his bill upfront and then does no work.

LORI DENNIS WAS WARNED ABOUT DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER & SLANDER NOT BACKED FACTS.

LARRY IS AN HONORABLE BUSINESSMAN WHO HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR MANY YEARS AND HAS HUNDREDS
OF HAPPY CLIENTS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH HIS COURSES AND MORE.

My husband and I were referred to Larry Loik by another Internet Marketer who is a good friend.  

YES, WHO HAS KNOWN LARRY FOR YEARS AND SPENT TIME WITH LARRY ND HIS EXPERTISE.
BECAUSE HE KNOWS OF LARRY'S OVER-DELIVERING OF QUALITY & CONTENT, HE REFERRED LORI DENNIS,
AN INEXPERIENCED ECOMMERCE SELLER & EX REALITY TV SHOW PERSON TO LARRY FOR HELP.

UPON FIRST INTERVIEWING LORI & DETERMINED SHE WAS COMPLETELY NEW, HE DID NOT WANT TO TAKE
HER ON AS A CLIENT, BUT DID SO AS A FAVOR TO THE FRIEND.
HE WA PUT OFF BY HER FOUL MOUTH AND HER SELF-ADMISSION IN WRITING OF BEING EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH.

Specifically we were interested in FBA coaching (Fullfillment by Amzon)  After our initial, complimentary info call, we signed a year contract including services ranging from weekly calls, entry to his multi-day conference, his escorting us to walk the floor at tradeshows, meeting with product vendors, unlimited emails and cell phone calls for questions, and various other services. The cost was $10,000.

 

After signing the contract, Larry presented a questionnaire to fill out prior to our first phone meeting.

AS ALL CONSULTANTS DO, THEY FORMULATE AN ANALYSIS OF THE CLIENT & THEIR NEEDS.

During the call it was obvious that he did not read the questionnaire, repeatedly asked us questions that had already been answered in the questionnaire. He had not prepared for our meeting at all and instead was spouting of general information, unrelated at all to what we hired him for and blowing through the hour call without any benefit to us at all.

LARRY INFORMED LORI TO GET HIM THE QUESTIONNAIRE ASAP, INSTEAD SHE DRAGGED HER FEET AND HE DID NOT
RECEIVE IT UNTIL HE HIS CONSULTATION CALL DUE TO HER LAST MINUTE SUBMISSION OF IT.

HE INFORMED THEM, THAT HE WOULD SQUEEZE IN THE CONSULTATION DESPITE FLYING INTO ANOTHER CITY
AND CONFERENCE AND WANTED TO GIVE THEM EXTRA SERVICE RATHER THAN THEY WAIT TILL THE FOLLOWING WEEK
AFTER THE CONFERENCE. 

PRIOR TO THE CONSULTATION LARRY INVESTED MANY HOURS RESEARCHING LORI DENNIS' HER BACKGROUND, BUSINESSES AND HER CURRENT BUSINESSES ALONG WITH HER HUSBAND ROY.

HE FORMULATED MANY PLANS & IDEAS FOR HER AND EVEN LET HER HUSBAND IN ON THE CONSULTATION
AT NO ADDITIONAL COST & CONSULTED WITH HIS CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS & ONLINE WEBSITE
AND MARKETING.

This "information" was identical to the initial talk we had when he was selling his services to us.  To top it off, he was eating loudly throughout the meeting.  It was the most unprofessional "meeting" we have ever attended and a total waste of our time.  

AS ANY CONSULTANTS DOES, THEY RECAP & REVIEW WITH THE CLIENT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED
AND ASK ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO DETERMINE THEIR NEEDS BASED UPON THEIR VERY LIMITED BUDGET
AND LACK OF EXPERIENCE IN ECOMMERCE. 
IN ADDITION, THE INTERNET WAS SO BAD THAT THERE WAS ALOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE FROM THE
HOTEL AND THERE WAS NO "EATING" DURING THE CALL.

Because we only had one call per week, we spent 3 hours to thoughtfully and succinctly answer his in depth questionnaire in an effort to maximize our productivity during the call.  

THE QUESTIONNAIRE HAD 7 QUESTIONS AND COULD BE FILLED OUT IN 15 MIN MAX.

During the meeting it became obvious that he had not prepared and had not read our questionaire.We asked why he had not reviewed the questionnaire and had not prepared for the meeting. He gave a lot of excuses about how the questionnaire wasn't relevant, avoided answering our concerns and kept insisting that we were sure to make lots of money with his coaching.  By the end of the call, we knew we had been had.

AS WAS WRITTEN ABOVE, LORI DENNIS DID NOT GET THE QUESTIONNAIRE TO LARRY UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE
AND DURING THE CALL ALL QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED ABOVE AND BEYOND ANY OTHER CLIENT.
IN ADDITION, LARRY SPENT AN EXTRA HOUR ON THE CALL AND HELPED HER HUSBAND WITH HIS QUESTIONS
ABOUT BOTH ECOMMERCE AND HIS CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS. 
LARRY SHOULD HAVE CHARGED DOUBLE BUT INSTEAD GAVE EXTRA VALUE.

We expressed concerns about the fact that he discussed just about every kind of Internet Marketing platform out there, but told us NOTHING about Amazon FBA, the only thing he was hired to do.  His explanation was that Amazon FBA wasn't a good idea, because it could be turned off at anytime by Amazon. We were obviously in shock that he would say this after he demanded that we wire $10,000 to him immediately so he could begin a personalized Amazon FBA strategy for us.

THE COMMENTS ABOVE ARE LAUGHABLE, THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY LARRY DID NOT WANT TO WORK WITH THEM. IT IS QUITE THE OPPOSITE, LARRY SUGGESTED THEY DO FBA AND EXPAND ON MULTI-PLATFORMS AND MULTI-CHANNEL OF WHICH THEY HAD NO CLUE WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
LORI DENNIS BELIEVES A ONE YR CONSULTATION AND JOURNEY CAN BE FORMULATED INTO 90 MINUTES.

LARRY HAD TO SPEND MOST OF HID TIME EDUCATING THEM ON THE ACUMEN OF ECOMMERCE & TERMINOLOGY
SINCE THEY DIDN’T UNDERSTAND HIS SYSTEMS OF SALES FUNNELS, RETARGETING, OFFLINE DISTRIBUTION,
PRIVATE LABELING ON FBA, COSMETIC VS SUPPLEMENTS PROS AND CONS.

HER HUSBAND ROY WANTED TO DO CELL PHONE CASES AND LARRY SUGGESTED THAT IT WAS A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE MARKET AND NOT A GOOD IDEA SINCE HE HAD ZERO EXPERIENCE IN THAT NICHE.

LARRY GAVE THEM SO MANY STRATEGIES, PRIOR, DURING AND AFTER THE CALL, HE INVESTED MORE HOURS AFTER THE CALL OUTLINING CRM'S (CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS & SOFTWARE FOR THEM TO BUILD THEIR CLIENT & PROSPECT LIST OF WHICH THEY HAD ZERO.
HE ALSO ANALYZED LORI DENNIS' HUSBAND ROY'S CONSTRUCTION WEBSITE AT NO ADDITIONAL COST
AND GAVE ROY NUMEROUS RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT TO INCREASE ROY'S BUSINESS IMMEDIATELY.
THEY HAD NO SYSTEMS IN PLACE FOR STRATEGICALLY PRODUCING RESIDUAL INCOME THAT THEY 
DESPERATELY BEGGED LARRY TO SHOW THEM HOW IN ECOMMERCE. 
LARRY ALSO HELPED LORI DENNIS AFTER THE CALL WITH IDEAS TO IMPLEMENT AT HER BOOTCAMPS
TO INCREASE PROFIT MARGINS THAT SHE REPLIED HOW THEY WERE GREAT IDEAS THAT SHE WILL IMPLEMENT.
BESIDES LARRY'S STRATEGIES WITH DEVELOPING HER OWN LINE, HE GAVE LORI DENNIS IDEAS TO SHOW HER ATTENDEES AT HER BOOTCAMPS HOW TO TEACH THEM TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN LINES & CREATE A COURSE AROUND THAT, AGAIN SHE LOVED THE IDEA.

After the only call we sent our concerns in writing. It took him 4 days to respond to our multiple emails, calls and text messages.  
ACTUALLY THAT’S FALSE AND LARRY WENT TO WORK AFTER THE CALL FOR MANY BILLABLE HOURS DOING WORK FOR LORI DENNIS.

WE HAVE IN WRITING MANY ATTEMPTS THAT HE TRIED TO SCHEDULE THE NEXT CALL AND SHE DID NO REPLY.

We told him we didn't think this was a good fit and that we'd like to cancel.  

HE AGREED SINCE HE DID NOT WANT TO WORK WITH LORI DENNIS FROM THE START, HIS GUT TOLD HIM NOT TO, BUT AGAIN DID IT AS A FAVOR TO HIS LONGTIME FRIEND WHO ASKED TO WORK ONE ON ONE WITH LORI DENNIS.
DUE TO HER LACK OF EXPERIENCE & HER SELF ADMITTED REPUTATION OF BEING HARD TO WORK WITH.

Although he did nothing for us, we generously agreed to pay him for the phone meeting.

LARRY SPENT MANY BILLABLE HOURS, PRIOR, DURING & AFTER THE CALL WITH PROOF ALL CORRESPONDENCE.

Our contract states that in the case of termination the refunds of money will be prorated for the remaining time on the contract. We used 1 of 52 weeks, his should have billed us $190. But Larry made up new rules for his payment. 

LORI DENNIS FORGOT TO MENTION SHE WAS REFERRED TO ANOTHER CONSULTANT & HE REFUSED TO WORK WITH HER AFTER SPEAKING WITH HER ON THE PHONE WITH THE ATTITUDE SHE HAD WITH HIM. PLUS SHE THREATENED HIM IN NUMEROUS TEXT MESSAGES (WHICH ARE RECORDED) AND CALLS & HAD TO FINALLY BE BLOCKED BY THE PHONE COMPANY & WAS GOING TO BE REPORTED FOR HARASSMENT. LORI DENNIS CELL PHONE WAS ALSO BLOCKED BY LARRY'S CELL PHONE CARRIER DUE TO MANY AGGRESSIVE CALLS. 

LORI DENNIS ALSO FORGOT TO MENTION SHE WAS REFUNDED IMMEDIATELY $8,000 OF THE $10,000.
THE $2,000 WAS THE BILLABLE HOURS PER THE PRORATED CONTRACT.

Before sending the money back, he tried to get  us to transfer the money to another consultant. When we realized the only way we would ever get our money back was to actually talk to Dr. Brian,  we did and told them both-  "no thanks, please return our money". 

ACTUALLY LORI WAS EXCITED TO TALK TO THE OTHER CONSULTANT TOO AND PICK HIS BRAIN.
HE REFUSED TO WORK WITH HER.

Larry finally mailed the check back to us and took $2,000 for "consulting fees".  He made up a number for hourly services that we never agreed to and billed us for 4 hours of work that he never did. 

ACTUALLY LARRY WORKED 5 HOURS AS OUTLINED AND WAS SENT TO LORI DENNIS, BUT ONLY BILLED OR 4 HOURS,
PLUS HER HUSBAND ROY WAS NOT BILLED AT ALL FOR CONSULTING ON HIS BUSINESS.

We told him that unless he returned our money, we would be suing him in Las Vegas, where he resides. His response was that it would take too much money and time for us to go after him, so we should forget it.  Fortunately my brother is a litigator in Las Vegas and it won't take very much to get a judgement against Larry Loik.

 

HER BROTHER KNOWS SHE WILL LOSE AND IS A WASTE OF TIME, PLUS THIS IS A SMALL CLAIMS COURT THING.

LORI DENNIS SENT LARRY MANY NASTY AGGRESSIVE UNPROFESSIONAL EMAILS, SMS & CALLS ALONG WITH THE OTHER CONSULTANT WHO DID NOT WANT TO TAKE HER ON AS A CLIENT.

LORI, TRIED TO STRING ARM AND BULLY LARRY BUT REALIZED HE WOULDN’T BE BULLIED SO SHE RESORTED
TO POSTING SLANDER & DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER. 

THE AMOUNT SHE IS WORRIED ABOUT IS $1600 WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN BILLABLE HOURS.

He is a con-artist, a thief, a fraud and you should stay clear of him and his scams.
ACTUALLY LARRY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND GOES OVERBOARD TO DO EXTRA.
AFTER BACKGROUND CHECKS ON LORI DENNIS, SHE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY LAWSUITS.
LARRY WAS GLAD TO GO TO SMALL CLAIMS COURT WITH HER AND SUGGEST SHE DID SO HE COULD 
PROVE SHE WAS WRONG AND SHE WOULD HAVE TO INCUR COURT COSTS WHEN SHE LOST.
IN ADDITION, LARRY WAS WILLING TO GIVE HER MORE REFERRALS FOR HER BUSINESS EVEN AFTER
THE AGREEMENT WAS SEVERED BUT LORI DENNIS INSTEAD WAS DEFIANT. 
HE EVEN TRIED TO GIVE HER EXTRA CONSULTATION BUT HER EGO AND ATTITUDE
STOOD IN THE WAY THE WAY IT HAS IN HER PAST. 
IT IS SAD SHE RESORTS TO THIS WEBSITE WHICH IS A SITE FOR EXTORTIONISTS WITHOUT FACTS.

THANK YOU FOR READING THIS AND GETTING THE TRUTH

CMS INC

=============================================================

LORI DENNIS (((REDACTED)))

http://www.loridennis.com/

 

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