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Complaint Review: Machina Dynamica
Machina Dynamica2978 Yarling Ct. Falls Church, Maryland U.S.A.
Machina Dynamica False claims about electronic enhancement products Falls Church Maryland
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See randi.org/joom/content/view/121/#i7 to refresh your memory of a major silly scam being used to extract cash from na've audio fans. As I've told readers before, I often get involved in trying to establish a correspondence with the scammers, and that sometimes results in protracted exchanges. With that in mind, read the following emails between reader Matt Schaffner and Geoff Kait, the genius behind this whole Machina Dynamica farce. Matt wrote me:
I teach music technology at an accredited university in Louisville, Kentucky. When I read your blurb on the inventions at Machina Dynamica, I was stunned at their awesome claims. Knowing full well that they are a total fraud, I've been baiting the company's creator with emails. All of the classic signs of woo'woo are here: no reputable references, no outside testing, devices work by mysteriously harnessing the laws of quantum mechanics, etc. I thought you might be interested in our ongoing email exchange. This man is stealing people's money. Please let me know if I can donate to your cause by helping to expose this man.
The email exchange follows. First, Matt approached the Machina Dynamica CEO:
Geoff, I teach classes on music technology at an accredited university. I would like to test some of your products and publish materials on them. I am very excited about the possibility of seeing and hearing some of your devices. Is there any way we might discuss this further?
A prompt response followed from Geoff Kait:
Hello, Matt, thanks for your interest in Machina Dynamica. I respectfully decline to submit any of our products for testing.
Persisting, Matt wrote back:
Do you have any published materials on the testing and performance of your products?
Geoff countered with a desperate alibi:
Matt All testing information is proprietary. Performance data is also proprietary. All information that we deem relevant is published on Machina Dynamicas web site.
Translated: No. Matt, ever patient, asked:
Ok, I understand. I wanted to perform an in-class comparison of your goods with other well known audio products. Additionally, I was going to publish some materials concerning comparisons between highend sound technologies. How can I get information on your data? Have there been any reviews of your products in magazines or online?
In a somewhat ominous tone, Machina Dynamica answered:
I don't think you realize what you're getting yourself into. There is so much information available on-line you won't have enough time in a year or two to thoroughly examine it all, much less come to conclusions on the effectiveness of these products or how they compare to other products.
There was a review of Intelligent Chip by 2 PhDs at 6 Moons in Jan 07: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/photoncannons/photoncannons.html. There was a review of Clever Little Clock in Positive Feedback last year: positive feedback.com/Issue23/clock_nespa.htm. I have a white paper on Brilliant Pebbles at: machinadynamica.com/machina17.htm. I have a paper on Intelligent Chip at: machinadynamica.com/machina64.htm. Review of Intelligent Box by 2 PhDs at 6moons.com/audioreviews/machinadynamica2/ib.html.
Despite the mass of data contained in these references, our only interest at the JREF is: does the thing work? Similarly, Matt assured Geoff that he was undeterred:
I have students that can filter through much of this information. Also, reading things like this is what I do for a living. I have plenty of time to read, and if I only spend a single year doing research then I'm happy. Any additional material you have would be helpful. Do you have any other websites?
Geoff fired back:
Matt, my website has many pages; there is navigation at the top of the main page. www.machinadynamica.com
Ever gracious, Matt wrote:
Thanks, the pages on your site helped. None of the writing seems to describe the mechanisms of your inventions. Do you have the patent number for these devices so that I might see how exactly they work? I am very interested in the Intelligent Box and Card. I'm not seeing exactly what these do, and especially how they might work. I'm curious as to what exactly is changed on a CD to enhance its sound, as a CD contains data in the form of a dye. Do you change the dye somehow?
Thanks for all your help!
Then this salvo was fired off by Geoff:
Patents too expensive, furthermore I dont wish to reveal certain information so I don't go that route. Ironically, much safer not to have patent in these cases.
The Intelligent Box/Intelligent Card is the evolution of the Intelligent Chip, which does the same thing as the Box. The box replicates the CD player laser and gets the active material very close to the CD, one thing the Intelligent Chip did not do the Chip was placed on top of the player chassis while the CD played for 2 seconds. But the effects of the Chip and the Box are the same. The explanation of the Box is the same as for the Chip quantum mechanics photon interaction with the CD material. It's all explained in excruciating detail in my paper on the Intelligent Chip.
This is just blather, with no science factor at all, only buzz-words and fakery. And, obviously, a patent on such devices would not be too expensive, at all if they worked.. The USPTO [United States Patent and Trademark Office] tends to award patents to just about any devices mentioned to them, whether they actually exist or not, and whether they work at all. However, I find two things here with which I and Matt Schaffner can enthusiastically agree. First, I'm sure, as Geoff Kait wrote, that the effects of the Chip and the Box are the same. The Intelligent Chip does exactly the same thing that the Intelligent Box does exactly nothing. Second, yes, I'm sure that there is excruciating detail in that learned paper.
Ah, but as we go to press, Matt reports:
Here's the latest from Geoff Kait at Machina Dynamics. Apparently he has now created a CD cleaner using "fake" atoms name brand atoms are so expensive. This is his response to my email:
The Box has a dedicated laser in it (so the box simulates the CD player "box" and laser). The advantage of the Intelligent Box is that the active material in the card is inserted into the interior of the Box so the active ingredient is very close to the laser and the CD, which is placed on top of the Intelligent Box when treating it. The top of the Box is clear so the CD is exposed to the photons of the laser and the photons emitted by the card when the laser strikes it. The active ingredient is contained in a thin layer spread out in the card's interior, like a sandwich. The simultaneous interaction of the laser photons and the Card photons with the polycarbonate layer of the CD improves the transparency of the layer so that when the CD is played the CD player laser "reads" the embedded data more accurately.
The active ingredient in the Card as for the Chip is actually artificial atoms! Pretty innovative for an audio product, wouldn't you say?
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