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  • Submitted: Tue, April 01, 2014
  • Updated: Sun, June 08, 2014

  • Reported By: Justice — British Columbia
Mak Bostons
3928 Saltair rd ladysmith, British Columbia USA

Mak Bostons Please beware Mak Bostons are a fraud and are lying to people don't get mislead like we did ladysmith/ SK/ AB/ BC BC

*Consumer Comment: Absurd allegations

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Suspected False Right up by another Vancouver Island Breeder

*Consumer Comment: Great experience !!

*Consumer Comment: Not True

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I am writing this so that other families looking to buy a puppy do not get fooled or scamed by this breeder Mak Bostons (Alena from SK/Karen from Ladysmith).

After doing research from the little bit of information Mak Bostons (Alena) provided we were to say the least SHOCKED and horrified !!!

We typed in Google search " Alena labradoodles" and found pages and pages of Ripoff reports to missing pregnant dogs, sick puppies, Lawsuits to dogs and puppies BURNING ALIVE in their BARN !!!! We felt sick to our stomachs. [continued below]....

..... Those poor families and worst of all those poor dogs!!! Just type in that and read for your self! 

Here is our Families story with this Breeder MAK BOSTONS 

My family and I had decided that a boston terrier was the best fit for our family and so we started our search. We wanted to buy a local puppy and when we found Mak Bostons add on used victoria (see add picture below) we contacted them right away.

I asked if we were able to come and see the puppy and her parents so we could see how they interacted with our young kids. 

This was Mak Boston's (Alena) response:

"They are ready right after Christmas but i cant ship until jan 8th i have one sold to victoria and im talking to them about meeting and taking a puppy back to vancouver and if you want one. Could you help him with exspenses to drive from Kelowna to Calgary. I would think if you both gave him $200 that would cover his gas and part of his hotel." She sent us a link to her web site members@shaw.ca/makbostons/ with available puppies for sale.

Alena didnt ask me a signle question about my family or seemed to care about where her puppy was going!

 

 Alena said "i can get "SOME GUY WHO BOUGHT A PUPPY" to ship my puppy with his if i give him $200. to drive from Kelowna to Calgary"  

 We were so confused as to why we needed to pay some stranger $200 to bring our puppy to us and pay for him to go to Kelowna and Calgary and that we were going to pay Mak Bostons $1300 for a puppy and that she trusted some stranger to deliver our puppy to us !!! 

I emailed Back with some more questions and got No reply. So again i emailed and asked if She had received my last email.

Her Reply was "NO"

So i explained that my family is really excited to add a boston to our home but we wanted to know where the puppy and Mak bostons was located  and if she had any referances of past puppy buyers and where the puppies are raised and how old her children were and what vet she used. ( i know now i shouldnt have even continued to contact Mak Bostons (Alena) as they did not seem to care about where their puppies were going! But my family and I really wanted to get a puppy so i emailed back)

 

Her Response:

My kids are getting older 12 & 14, they do baby sit a little boy and girl once a month.  My mom is located in Ladysmith and wants to breed Willow her blue girl and smokie this spring. She looks after my sisters daughter weekly (she is 5 years old) so they get lots of small child handeling. her # is 2502455811 feel free to call her if you would like and go see her bostons moms name is (Karen).

You can also go and talk to john Gayfer at Juan De Fuca clinic he was my vet for years and Deb at the counter can give referances for me as a breeder. John would be best just say Alena i used to have poodles and Labradoodles. 

She told us that the Blue puppy was now sold but she had another pup she had got from the states for sale and a couple unregistered brindle puppies for $800. we could buy.

So I was reading her reply to my husband and we were like I asked "where Mak Bostons (Alena) and the puppy was located" and just got where her mom lived and the vet she USED to use!!!  So again we were confused! So I emailed Back again to ask where you are located and what vet she used for the puppy that we were looking at buying was. ( At this Point we were feeling very Uncompfortable and felt like Alena was avoiding the questions we were asking that seemed very basic.)

When she emailed back she finally told us she was Located in Saskatoon SK and her mom will be having puppies this spring of 2014 from willow and smokie.

Needless to say after all of this we did not buy a puppy from Alena or her mom Karen!

 

 

 


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#1 Consumer Comment

Absurd allegations

AUTHOR: Blue Meadow - ()

I cannot believe what I am reading about this young woman.  I spoke to Alena over the course of a few months, and the amount of knowledge and information I received was outstanding! My young gal was shipped across Canada and arrived healthy, confident and so well socialized that anyone who meets her are amazed time and time again. My puppy is out of the very litter spoken of in this report. All I can say is I would and have referred many people to Alena for the quality of her animals simply show for themselves.  

I will never go back to life without a Boston in my home.  Our puppy became more than we honestly ever even hoped for. We knew she would be worth the time and effort it took to get her home, but we did not ever expect such a perfect and smart little angel who was so full of happiness and curiosity. Alena cares about her dogs and if a buyer is serious enough to show they will provide her babies with a proper caring and safe home... She will indeed be the most help and support you could ask for in a breeder.  I will definitely be purchasing other pups from this breeder in the future. 

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Suspected False Right up by another Vancouver Island Breeder

AUTHOR: M Bostons - ()

Web sites that allow permanent postings of false information to inflict doubt, suffering and distress to people need to be stopped. ROR states that they have spent 24 million in legal fees to keep this site up and running, I am wondering how they get that money.  If you’re also a victim from this site, please step up and contact the FBI cyber bulling department. New laws are being created all the time to stop cyber bulling but this site still allows it to happen, in fact they encourage and profit from it. Within a few hours of the above false statement being posted we were contacted by legal firms from the USA offering to deal with this site and offer their services. It’s a million dollar industry posting slander and lies and then preying on their victim’s suffering. This site claims it’s all about freedom of speech but it is clear that profit power over others and greed is their ONLY concern.

ROR has received legal documents and court orders to remove false material, yet it is ignored. How can they get away with that? Web sites like this one that continue to post fraudulent and harmful material causing hardship and distress to the company or person need to be stopped and shut down.

I am aware of other colored breeders that are being attacked using this site and unfortunately no proof or evidence is needed to post anything on ROR. 

Towards the false statement towards the above listed company. M**Bostons

This is a copy of one of five emails from the person that posted the false ROR

From: Blossom Bakery [mailto:lyndi_symonds@hotmail.c**]

Sent: November-13-13 1:08 PM

To: MAK Bostons

Subject: Re: RE:

“Okay

Thank you for the info I'm still interested in getting a puppy from you, and was wanting one raised in a family setting how old are your kids? I have 2 young children. I was also wondering if you had a reference from someone who has previously purchased a pup from you. My husband is just a little uncomfortable purchasing a pup from someone we haven't met in person. Where are you located? “

Sent from my iPhone

They never provide a phone number or anything further about themselves. Just fishing for information about a breeder and asked for references at Christmas time (very busy time of year).

Mak B**tons or people that are associated with them are NOT involved in any fraudulent activity.  Mak B… is not a kennel, has never abused dogs, nor has misled anybody.  To insinuate such is only an attempt to plant a seed of doubt, and an intentional action to cause harm and doubt.


As to the poor dogs that died in a fire, that is horrible, but the sad fact is thousands of people and animals die in accidental fires every year. It is appalling that people would even post about a tragedy like this on ROR.

E.G.

Sleuth the Reporter Dog is pretty brave, but fire scares him to death!  Knowing that many pets need help in the event of a fire, Sleuth asked his friends at the Veterinary News Network to develop some helpful hints.

1) More than 500,000 pets die in house fires each year. This is in the USA alone.

2) Smoke alarms help humans, but the loud noise often scares pets and sends them into hiding.

3) In addition, many pets are left home alone and have no way to escape the fire, even with working smoke detectors.

4) Firefighters who rescue pets are often ill-equipped to provide life-saving oxygen to the animals efficiently.

5) To help keep your pets safe, be sure to extinguish all flames before leaving home and consider confining young pets to prevent them from accidently starting a fire.

6) Alarm monitoring services can instantly dispatch fire personnel to your home in the event of a fire, increasing the chances of your pets escaping without harm.

7) Window alert signs, or “window clings” help firefighters identify the need to find and rescue pets from your home.

8) Local rescue squads are now receiving donated animal oxygen masks from veterinarians and animal advocates.  These will help save pets’ lives after fires.

9) Ask your veterinarian about potential pet fire hazards in your home and the best ways to keep your pet safe.

10) Be sure to bookmark www.MyVNN.coma and www.PetDocsOnCall.com  as sources of up-to-date and accurate pet health information.

As to the false slander over labra***dle p****ns, it’s really sad that the first person to make a stand against a commercial con-artist and trying to take down his huge puppy mill, is considered the person in the wrong and called a fraud. It's too bad that sites like this allow bully’s to post whatever they want to get back and seek revenge on people. Whoever is posting this crap please seek help.  Are you so full of spite and angry because you didn’t want to buy a puppy???? That does not make any sense??? So who is really the person behind the email that is clearly trying to discredit someone else’s excellent reputation by posting such false info?

Why or who would care to write such a thing 6 months after inquiring about a puppy they clearly were not interested in??  

In regards to the comments posted in the above report. We would like to correct several false and misleading statements.

No one was getting fooled or scammed? M**Boston’s has an open door policy, with regularly updated videos showing their dogs. The web site is always listed on ads, and the locations and a questionaries’ are clearing visible on the site.  (For someone to insinuate that they didn’t know where they were located does not make any sense, as it’s always listed on ads or the web site). We are aware of another breeder that was claiming to be M** Boston’s and this very well could be who these people were talking to this conversation had never happened with us. This person references dogs or parents from Mac Bo… web site as parents to their puppies.

Ask yourself this? Why does someone post 6 month later after inquiring about a puppy that they clearly wrote they weren’t interested in,  which  states they wanted a puppy right away and were going to another colored breeder in Coombs AK COLORED BOSTONS. The answer is because this person was FAKE possible another breeder or really just another breeder trying to make up stuff and run down competition.

Regarding the person that contacted Mac bos…..

A person contacted us in early November asking about a puppy. At that time we might have had one available but was waiting to hear back from another lady. We looked up old emails and matched this partially shown email to his person.

This person called herself Lynda Symonds at Blossom Bakery. If you do your research there is no such place as Blossom Bakery in Victoria and the Lynda was spelled different in the email, it was lyndi.

Email lynd isymonds @hotmail.           (com) I'm sure you can put this email together.

Sometimes it is necessary to have to deal with opinionated or unpleasant people in the dog industry. People that want to stop breeders or other breeders that will do whatever it takes to discredit their competition.  When people first contact us about a puppy, we chat a bit to get to know what they are like and what they are looking for, we discuss our beliefs and practices and determine if one of our puppies would be a suitable pet for them. If at that time we feel they would offer a good home we will send them the interview questions if they have already not filled them out from the web site. You get a feel for what kind of person they are and what they are looking for this weeds out the looky loos, or snoopy people that enjoy wasting hours of your time.  If  the person avoids answering questions we have ask them or the interview question this shows us that they are not serious, that they are other breeders or just wasting our time. This is necessary when you get up to ten inquires a day, you would have not time for your work, family, kids or dogs.

This person made it clear in the second email to us they were not interested in shipping a puppy and asked about another local breeder as they wanted to meet in person.  I told them my mom was thinking about breeding her pet Boston but they made it clear they wanted a puppy for Christmas and didn't want to wait. They continued to push for references as they may consider trying to get a puppy, so I provided them with what they asked for. We contacted the references to see if anyone contacted them and both respond with NO. It was clear this person did not want a puppy and was not who they said they were. We wondered if it had something to do with the other local breeder as they were asking questions about them. It felt like they were testing to see if we would bad mouth the other breeder. I have had up to 10 emails like this baiting to see what I would say if I would recommend them or not. Emails all coming from Hotmail or gmail accounts.  I responded truthfully and told them our first dog was from AK COLORED BOSTONS. The Boston we bought has some minor health issues with her dew-claw and her eye. She also has a calcium absorption problem which caused seizures but everything is under control and she is a loved, spayed, ball crazy family dog.  I told them that I didn't have any issues with the breeder and if they had concerns to go to her home and check the set up, and talk to her. I didn't think they bred the dog’s parents to our dog anymore.  After sending them the comment over the other breeder I never heard from them again so assumed they went and bought a puppy that AK Colored Bostons as they had mentioned buying a puppy from them and we did have puppies available at that time.

We contacted AK Colored Bostons and asked owner Ashley if they had anything to do with this posting and they said they are going through the same thing with ROR and people attacking them. I also contacted the Lyndi… email and asked why her inquiry well only part of the five emails was listed on ROR. I also asked the person behind the email if they had forwarded the email onto Ashley as they had inquired about a puppy from her. They never responded.

The only reason I would even have thought maybe Ashley could be behind the false posting was the strange couple of emails five months ago and then again late march. Asking a lot of questions about AK COLORED BOSTONS, I know she has several breeding dogs as we have shared pictures and I have been to her place several times before, and for the records I don’t see any issue with her owning several breeds of dogs. Breeding is her life and she loves her dogs. I told both parties to go meet her if they have concerns check her place out.   I don’t know anything about any bad dealings people may have had with her and why they would be posting them on ROR.

 If I hadn’t been contact by a lady that was waiting for a blue puppy from our upcoming litter, stating that Ashley offered to buy out her deposit if she bought one of her dogs over ours.  I would have never questioned or even considered Ashley could have even done such a thing but his left me with questions. Plus some other strange comments.....

I don’t believe Ashley would attack us as we had bought our first dog from her. I really have no idea who or why some one with a fake name and asking about her would then post only part of the email on ROR and then take out the comments in the email about the dog we bought from AK COLORED BOSTONS. It’s very suspicious

We are a CKC member/breeder in good standing (look up CKC Member Code of Ethics) a fraudulent or dishonest person cannot be a member. It’s breeders that are not CKC members you need to wonder why they won’t join or can’t. 
You can also look up pages of wonderful references on Mak web site.
 (which will be up and running again soon, it's down for an over haul)
We don’t bred non registered dogs, I may refer puppies that are not mine from other people but we only sell CKC registered puppies from fully health tested parents.

We have also read a few slander postings from show breeders running down colored breeders, saying they can’t be purebred and all colored dogs are not health tested and so on. This is simply not true, just look up Boston terrier’s origins, many of the original dogs were colored.

So before you go on believing the lies posted on ROR realize you might just be the next victim to sites like this, other others like it. Report internet bulling and to the FBI Cyber bully department. To local states contact the mayors the governments the authorities that can change laws to stop sights like this, from posting whatever they want without any evidence. Push to get the laws changed, make a difference in this world. Many people and children kill themselves because of the harm cause from internet bulling, it’s estimated internet bulling is up almost 750%. This site is just one of those sites that is making Millions at the expense of others.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Great experience !!

AUTHOR: Mel - ()

I just wanted to say I had a great experience. I have had many poor experiences and can tell you Alena was friendly, helpful and I have an amazing boston terrier from her. i will be showing her this summer. She answered any questions I had , no she did not answer them immediately. She's a busy woman.  I to had to have my puppy shipped, she gave me the option of meeting in the middle or having her shipped. All she asked for was gas if we met in the middle. Yes that is fair you pay for the dog which includes vaccinations, And ckc papers which is not cheap to have done. she should not half to pay out of her pocket for you to get your dog. It is unfortunate you had a bad experience, however I fell people have the right to know she is not a rip off. Nor should anybody be accused of doing such crule things to animals without having facts. She sent me many videos of my puppy untill I could take her home and I can tell you for a fact she's very loving to all her dogs!  If anyone if the future needs a reference for mak bostons I would be more than happy to answer any questions. I would also like to add I re ibexes my ckc paper very quickly!!

 

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#4 Consumer Comment

Not True

AUTHOR: Jbot - ()

I would like to say that I have a puppy from Mak Bostons and I think your are being over judgemental and overreacting. 

The lady that you mentioned as Alena with the Labradoodles is NOT the same Arena of Mak Bostons. Where did you get this information from?

I found Alena to be very polite, although busy, but she was in fact very helpful to me. Even after I got my puppy, I had questions that were breed specific to which she answered. 

My puppy was healthy and happy. I have the proper CKC forms for her. This was in the Fall of 2013, so not that long ago. She was one of Smokies pups. 

I think you should be a little more thorough and careful before you are so quick to slander someone's name and reputation. 

By the way, I had my puppy shipped, along with another puppy,  myself and her owner shared the cost and "trusted" each other. Have some faith in "strangers" while being smart and realistic about the situation also. 

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