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Complaint Review: Massage Envy - Riverside California

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  • Massage Envy 19029 Van Buren Blvd. Suite 118 Riverside, California USA

Massage Envy Bait & Switch, unauthorized billing Riverside California

*Author of original report: Victim's ignorance never justifies a bait and switch

*Consumer Comment: comment

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After being a member for two years, I called to cancel my account because of the departure of some good therapists and my inability to find one that was good among those who remained. I also was receiving physical therapy and the massages were actually doing me some harm, according to my physical therapist. So I needed to stop the membership. When I tried to do so, the woman at Massage Envy told me not to cancel, but put the account on hoid for 6 months after which Massage Envy would contact me to start it back up. She said if I did nothing after those 6 months, the account would automatically close. She said that way if one of my favorite therapists returned and  my physical therapist recommended I could return to getting massages, I could go back to Massage Envy, and not have to rejoin at a higher rate. I figured I had nothing to lose. 27 months later (!) I get a call from Massage Envy asking for my credit card number (My purse was stolen in Spain so I had a new account). It was then that I learned that Massage Envy had re-activated my account (without telling me) a full 21 months prior and had been billing my husband's visa card every month, even though I clearly was not coming in for massages! It turns out they did the same with my husband's account (he was told the same thing as me several months later when he wanted to stop his  massages due to the turn-over in therapists. And they were billing him for 11 months without informing him, caling him to ask why he wasn't getting his massages, or sending him the Massage Envy member newsletter that we got in the mail previously when we were members!) This is clearly a bait and switch scam! If it weren't they would have refunded our money with an apology. Instead, they claim it is their policy to reactivate these accounts and just start billing! That is fine that it is their policy, but they should not have employees who lie and they should not reactivate accounts without informing members, sending them their newsletters, and calling them to schedule an massage!!! Clearly this is all part of their business plan! My husband and I are very savvy consumers, but we were definitely conned by them. If we can be conned, I know there are a great many other potential victims!  (I was, by the way, a little upset with my husband for not noticing the charges but this is a card that has a high monthly average bill so the charges were buried). In trying to resolve this matter over the past 6 months, I have talked to 5 different individuals who all claimed to be a store "manager." Some of them would say they would look into the matter and call me back. But they never did. One woman "manager" at this store agreed last summer/early fall that a mistake had been made. She offered to refund half of the amounts charged and let us use the other half of the amount charged in massages. I refused this offer as I never should have been charged when I was receiving none of the benefits of membership for all that time! What kind of a company does that? An unethical one! I have since talked to additional managers, this time with a representative from VISA on the line as a third party witness (thank goodness I use Capital One Visa who is willing to back me up on this!). Visa has tape-recorded the phone conversations and their reps have been as aghast as I am at the different responses I've gotten from the local store. Next  we tried to contact their corporate headquarters, and they have no phone number contact!!! What does that tell you about this company??? Anyway, I've been charged nearly $2,000 for (21 months on my account, 11 months on my husband's acocunt) for massages never used. And the store refuses to set this right. At this point I'm taking it to Corporate. From there, I will move to do more of this- report it on consumer sites, report the fraud formally to my Visa card (they have wanted me to try to resolve the matter with Massage Envy first, and they have been very helpful witnesses to this process). I also plan to contact a friend from my earlier days as a newspaper reporter who does investigative journalism. Hopefully he will find others in southern California with similar stories (some of them have complaints I noticed on this very site). And, lastly, I will contact my local representative. My mom got a very good result when she did this. And, of course, I will spread the word to my many colleagues and friends about Massage Envy. And I do hope that we will soon see better laws regulating businesses that think they can charge credit cards for services never delivered! Please join me ripped-off consumers of Massage Envy in writing your elected representatives about this problem and asking for better laws. And inform your credit card company as well! Together we can put a stop to this kind of bait & switch practice.  In an era of hard times when many folks have lost jobs, incomes, houses, it is all the more galling to see a business turn a profit from charging people for services never rendered! Shame on you, Massage Envy!

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#2 Author of original report

Victim's ignorance never justifies a bait and switch

AUTHOR: K - ()

POSTED: Tuesday, February 25, 2014

I agree that 21 months without noticing that Massage Envy was charging us for services never received or membership never activated on their end is a long time. And there was a time in my life when this NEVER would have happened without notice as I had far fewer bills and money running through the  accounts than I do now. But our life and finances have become much more complicated, as we have several properties as well as professional careers around which charges to this card accrue. There are several users of this card, but only my husband had access to the monthly statement as the card is in his name.  The average monthly statement that is paid in full every month is in the thousands of dollars, so the two $59 monthly charges got buried. This is not an excuse but an explanation of how it occurred. Believe me, I did not know my husband was not looking over the monthly bill on this card in more detail, and I was upset that this got by him. We now have all  users of this card look over the statement every month. But all of this is besides the fact. 

This issue is not about how we handle our personal bills - for better or worse. It is not illegal or even unethical to pay a monthly bill in full without noticing a charge. If it were, U.S. consumers would be bilked out of billions of dollars without legal recourse - not the society I prefer to live in! Our failure to capture this sooner does not forgive this company for charging consumers without providing any service whatsoever, including the most basic benefits that are supposed to come with membership! That fact that they charged us for so long makes the behavior of this company even more eggrecious! Let's be clear: this is about a company charging for services without providing any services whatsoever, and doing so in a stealth manner. During the two years of our legitimate membership, they used to call us to schedule a massage and we got a monthly member newsletter.  But after they started charging our card, Massage Envy never called us or sent the member newsletter. They only called me when the credit card was stolen in Europe to ask for the new number so they could continue to keep charging for services never received!  It is about a company whose so-called "managers" cannot behave professionally and do as they promise - look into the matter and call me back. It is about a company whose so-called "managers" are different every time I call and whose proposed resolutions vary with every one I talk to. It is about a company that does not take responsibilty for an employee who lied to its clients in what turns out to be a bait and switch. If companies were allowed to scam people who don't notice they are being scammed then we would have a lawless society, and captalism would implode. Con artists are still criminals even through their victims were duped! I'm very grateful that the folks at my Visa card company understand this difference.

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AUTHOR: Jeanski - ()

POSTED: Tuesday, February 25, 2014

I agree that they screwed you initially.

Who on earth lets their credit card statements go for 20 months without checking them??????  If your monthly balance is that high, I would think it even more important to check charges. 

They should refund the first month, and the rest is on you as a lesson learned.

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