• Report: #166716

Complaint Review: McDonald's

  • Submitted: Sat, December 03, 2005
  • Updated: Sat, December 24, 2005

  • Reported By:Independence Missouri
McDonald's
5347 Independence Ave Kansas City, Missouri U.S.A.

McDonald's Charging Take Out Tax Kansas City Missouri

*Consumer Comment: A Microcasm Society Of a City In Peril

*Consumer Comment: Poor, poor Rickie

*Consumer Comment: Show me your algorithm Robbie

*Consumer Comment: YOU MAY FIND THIS OF INTEREST..

*Consumer Comment: Unbelievable, Rickie

*Consumer Comment: Still Wrong Robbie

*Consumer Comment: My Bad...

*Consumer Comment: Penske Raced Javelins

*Consumer Comment: I made it easy for you Rickie

*Consumer Comment: Hey Rickie, stick with posts dealing with sex with horses

*Consumer Comment: Hey Rickie, stick with posts dealing with sex with horses

*Consumer Comment: Wrong once again Robbie - The C & T tax is the Convention and Tourism tax imposed on restaurants and hotels in Platte, Jackson and Clay counties

*Consumer Comment: Wrong once again Robbie - The C & T tax is the Convention and Tourism tax imposed on restaurants and hotels in Platte, Jackson and Clay counties

*Consumer Comment: Wrong once again Robbie - The C & T tax is the Convention and Tourism tax imposed on restaurants and hotels in Platte, Jackson and Clay counties

*Consumer Comment: What is your complaint, other than voting people into office who steal as much money as they can from the taxpayers?

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McDonald's in Kansas City charged $.50 on a $5.40 subtotal. Given that our sales tax is *not* 9.5% (or close to it, the sales tax rate is 6.25%), it would indicate that their tax rate is significantly higher than what is normal.

$.50 on a $5.40 bill for this area is in excess of even other McDonald's in the area (one just four miles away charges normal sales tax).

I've read nonsense that the local restaurant doesn't cover it, but rather that the city charges it. However, the Mexican restaurant two blocks away does not charge nearly a 10% tax rate on meals.

So what gives here? If McD's is charging for a little extra jack on the side, at least have the courage to admit it openly instead of trying to hide behind a special mythical "city tax".

After all, the food is packaged the same, so it can't be a "Take Out Tax" as they label it.

And for reference, that tax rate is *steep*. If I ordered $10.00 worth of food, that means they're busting me for an extra dollar. That's *really* ridiculous when you start to add it all up, and McDonald's is pocketing at about 33% of that dollar on every ten. Pricey.

Robert
Independence, Missouri
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/03/2005 02:05 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/McDonalds/Kansas-City-Missouri-64124/McDonalds-Charging-Take-Out-Tax-Kansas-City-Missouri-166716. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

A Microcasm Society Of a City In Peril

AUTHOR: P - (U.S.A.)

Kansas City continues to startle the rest of America even in such a small town as Independence, MO. The example above is the babbling responses by the same people who are clueless to their own demise. These people are destrutive, mean and will inflict harm to any segment of society then call themselves patriots and "greatest generation". Unlike many other decent societies the resolution should be short and final, but in this City you will get psycho-babble then a bill for their efforts.It would be best to expose the actual creators of the tax bill, and let America know who they are sponsoring and who is the real citizen. TOO bad Independence, no h.truman there any longer.
See;
http://hometown.aol.com/kcansas69city69/myhomepage/index.html
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#2 Consumer Comment

Poor, poor Rickie

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

You are just too much. I print the ACTUAL numbers, numbers that match PERFECTLY with what the gentleman was charged, and STILL you want to claim they are wrong.

I get it now. You have control issues. I know it sucks to be you. You cannot win this. The facts have been presented, and you wish to deny them.

When I went to school, math was easy. If the numbers added up correctly, the problem was solved. You apparently have chosen a different route. If the numbers add up, there must be a great conspiracy, and therefore it must be Bush's fault.

Go away.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Show me your algorithm Robbie

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

No Robbie, it is you who is denying the facts. I am using germaine data and solid logic obtained from the MO and KC websites. You Robbie, have only cut and paste some numbers that you don't understand from the Independence website.

So why don't you publish your algorithm step by step with the final answer that disproves mine?

Most of the numbers you "cut and pasted" are not relevant for a purchase at McDonalds in KC Jackson county. So why don't you at least show us the ones that matter?

I'll be waiting, Einstein.
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#4 Consumer Comment

YOU MAY FIND THIS OF INTEREST..

AUTHOR: Sherri - (U.S.A.)

As Benjamin Franklin so eloquently put it over 200 years ago nothing in this world is certain except death and taxes. This is truer today than ever before. Every year, from the federal government to all 50 states, the tax code becomes increasingly complex with the current tax code reading like hieroglyphs before the discovery of the Rosetta stone. While the taxes of Franklin's day were certainly unpopular, it is safe to say they were not quite as bizarre as some of the levies in place today. Many of these taxes target specific industries or productsthat's just unfair, unreasonable, and in some cases just plain odd. So, without further ado, the fine folks at FreedomWorks are proud to present to you our top 10 most bizarre taxes currently on the books. And, if there are any that we missed, we're happy to receive your nominations at: Cleveland@freedomworks.org.

10. The Amusement Tax: It's safe to say that most people like to kick back and enjoy themselves every once in a while, but much to the chagrin of the masses, many states put a tax on our recreational activities. Ever buy a ticket to see you local pro sports team play? Or purchase tickets to a Hall and Oates' concert only to find an ambiguous tax show up on your receipt? That small, yet noticeable fee is the amusement tax. The tax, which is in place in most states including Massachusetts and Virginia, is considered a tax on the patrons of places such as ski resorts, craft shows, and golf courses, but in reality is collected from the operators of such places. The tax works like this: the government taxes the owners of places that offer amusement and in return those businesses pass the aforementioned taxes on to us. Who ever said the best things in life are free didn't realize he was breaking the law by not paying a tax on his amusement. Poor sap.

9. Fountain Soda Drink Tax: If you ever find yourself unquenchably thirsty and in the state of Illinois, I encourage you to be sure to purchase a canned or bottled beverage rather than its fountain counterpart. Illinois has on record a tax rate on fountain drinks of 9 percent, as opposed to the standard sales tax of 3 percent. Next time you buy a Pepsi in Chicago think twice before you go for the Big Gulp' and instead reach for the 12 oz. bottle or else prepare to feel the financial wrath of another outrageous tax that hits mom and pop soda stands.

8. Fur Tax: Moving along briskly we land at number 8. Boy those winters in Minnesota can be cold, but who would have thought that keeping warm would come with an excise tax? Minnesota (always known for its long line of fur-trappers) pay a 6.5 percent tax on the total amount received for the sale, shipping, and finance charges associated with the purchase of a fur. While this price is assumed by the merchant, it can be passed on to the consumer either by adding the estimated price of tax to the fur or, more commonly, it is received as a separate item on the bill. Most other types of clothes are not taxed in Minnesota so I encourage all to purchase the ever popular Member's Only jacket, just beware for you may very well be the last member wearing it.

7. Take-out Tax: Have you ever been in a rush and in need of vital sustenance? Well, if so, chances are you have indulged in the guilty pleasure that is fast food. However, little did you know some areas levy a 0.5 percent tax on all take-out food. Chicago and Washington, D.C. both have enacted a tax on fast food, purportedly to pay for the removal of litter often accrued with the purchase of burgers and dogs. This tax applies to everything take-out, from your morning egg McMuffin to your late night cheese steak. Nothing in a wrapper is free from the wrath of the Take-out Tax. Bon Appetite!

6. Blueberry Tax.: I like Rice Krispies, but more specifically I like Rice Krispies with farm-fresh blueberries on them. However, I try to avoid farm-fresh blueberries from Maine, because the state imposes a tax on the blueberry farmers. The tax is relevant for anyone who grows, purchases, sells, handles, or processes the fruit in the state and makes those persons eligible for a cent per pound tax. Now a tax like that is just not berry nice.

5. Playing Card Tax: If you're from Alabama, I suggest you take a short drive across state lines if you plan on purchasing any playing cards in the near future. Alabama has in place a 10 cent tax on the sale of all playing cards with 54 cards or less. The only joker's wild in Alabama are the lawmakers that would enact such a silly tax.

4. Sparkler and Novelties Tax: Remember playing with sparklers when you were a kid? It never seemed like a good idea to hand your innocent child a stick full of spitting fire, but if you're from West Virginia the joy of fire may come at a premium price. West Virginia imposes a special fee on all businesses selling sparklers and other novelties. On top of the state's 6 percent sales tax you can expect to pay an addition fee courtesy the state. Call it the Fourth of July tax and enjoy the irony.

3. Jock Tax: Around the country more and more cities and states are starting to administer the so-called Jock Tax, which is not exclusively assessed on Jocks but on performers in general. This tax looks to grab some of the money that the specific performer makes while performing in state. Say, for example, the New Kids on the Block have a reunion tour in Boston (I know, it's wishful thinking). The money they make while in Boston would be taxed by the state at around 2 percent. This proves extremely costly for professional athletes who play 50 percent of their games in other cities. For instance, New York Yankees superstar Alex Rodriguez (who signed a record contract of $252 million) was taxed $9,000 at the all star game in Milwaukee in July. This cross-boarder money grab is a troubling new concept in taxation, and you can bet that consultants and other traveling businesspeople will be next on the target list.

2. Facial Hair Tax: Do you have a goatee? If so I suggest you stay out of the state of Massachusetts, which has a law on the books that makes it illegal to have a goatee without first purchasing a license to do so. A small fee must be paid in order to wear the facial hair in public, and one can be fined if a license is not presented to a law enforcement official upon request. No offense, but anyone that still has a goatee deserves to be taxed or possibly even arrested by the fashion police.

1. The Illegal Drug Tax. This is the moment we have all been waiting fornumber one on our countdown.. Do you live in Alabama, North Carolina, or Nevada and possess illicit drugs? If so, shame on you for not purchasing a stamp that registers tax payments on the drugs. In order to pay the aforementioned drug tax, simply go to your Department of Revenue and pay a small fee for a stamp that is to be placed on the container of your drugs (stamp cost is determined by the amount of drugs you have). The stamp serves as evidence that you paid your tax so when you get arrested for possession, you won't be fined an increased amount based on not paying your drug tax. Oh and there is no need to worry that a Narc will be working behind the counter at your local Revenue Office, as it is illegal for revenue employees to divulge any information about you to the authorities. Never mind the junkies and beatniks that have drugs to be registered; what were the legislators who created this outlandish law on when they enacted it?
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#5 Consumer Comment

Unbelievable, Rickie

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I cut and pasted the info for both Kansas City and Independence, seeing as how the guy lives in one, and eats in the other.

Still, you want to deny the facts. This is probably the same mentality you use when you're backed up for that stallion.

I'll find the photo I have of a Penske-Donahue Gremlin at Riverside and post it. It'll have to wait until I go home to NC though.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Still Wrong Robbie

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

Nice work Robbie, going to the Independence web site. Even though the establishment is clearly located in Kansas City. You were close though, it's on 5347 INDEPENDENCE Ave Kansas City Missouri 64124. Kansas City is also clearly referenced in the title. I guess the street name of Independence combined with the OP's hometown of Independence must have thrown you off.

I went to the Kansas City web site. Which is the location of the establishment. The link I presented clearly states "City of Kansas City Missouri-Clay County", does it not?

I made a slight mistake, It's really City of Kansas City Missouri-Jackson County. The only difference is the county tax rate which is .75%. Which brings the total to 9.350%. My methodolgy is correct. I just picked the wrong county. Here's the link. It will clearly state "City of Kansas City Missouri-Jackson County"

http://www.kcconvention.com/finance/jackrest.pdf

Now to further substantiate my position here's the link to the Missouri Department of Revenue Sales Tax Rate Information System. It's a handy little tool where you type in the physical address and it gives you a detailed breakdown of the sales tax. So type in the following address:

5347 Independence Ave
Kansas City Missouri 64124

Now select the detailed sales rate radio control button and click the Submit button. You'll see the following in the Sales Tax column:

State Tax- 4.225
Jackson County - .075
Kansas City - 2.375
TOTAL - 7.35

The food sales tax is not appropriate for McDonalds because more than 80% of McDonalds food is sold for immediate consumption, the 4.225 state rate prevails. You can find support of that statement here: http://www.dor.mo.gov/tax/misc/foodtax.pdf. They'll show you all of the scenarios where the food sales rate is applicable.

There is no additional food sales tax, only a reduction of the state sales tax to 1.225 under certain circumstances. You can read all about them.

Now go back to the first website I provided and add 2.0 C & T to our 7.35. Simple addition tells us the total = 9.35 for this particular restaurant. It's indisputable isn't it?

So why would you consider me a dimwit when you went to the wrong city's web site?

Proving further what a numbskull you are is the following statement: The sales tax rates for the two cities are 6.25%, just as the OP stated, in Independence, and 6.60% for Kansas City. The OP clearly stated KANSAS CITY. Why do you insist on Independence? Oh, I know why.

The regular state, city and county rate is 7.35 for this location. And even you agree that if you take out the county tax it's 6.60, so now add back the county tax of .75% and the C & T tax of 2.0, imposed only on restaurants and hotels by Jackson, Platte and Clay counties, total = 9.350 (Jackson).

Again Robbie, THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL FOOD SALES TAX IN MO, only a reduced rate of tax for certain business selling food and certain food items, this rate is 1.225 state + local, a 3% reduction.

Also, this is KANSAS CITY, not Independence.

If you have any further questions, I'd be happy to have my four year old give you a call and explain it to you.

And here's the link to the KC C&T page, if you scroll to the bottom you'll get the rates.

http://www.kcmo.org/finance.nsf/web/c&ttax
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#7 Consumer Comment

My Bad...

AUTHOR: Greg - (U.S.A.)

Penske Donahue raced Camaros in the 69 season, switching to Javelins in 1970.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Penske Raced Javelins

AUTHOR: Greg - (U.S.A.)

The Penske Donahue teams of the late 60's early 70's raced Javelins or AMX versions of the Javelin. The Gremlin was nothing more than maybe a local oddity at the track if someone tricked one out with a souped up V8.

The Gremlin did not debut until 1970 and the largest engine you could get from the factory was a 2 barrel 304 rated at most, 150 HP, hardly enough to match any Mustang or Camaro of the era.
0-60 was reached in about 9.5 seconds with a top speed of 115 MPH. Of course, the early Seventies were a time of detuned engines, so maybe a Gremlin might have been close but it was no muscle car.

You were not considered cool if you drove a Gremlin back when I was in school. It was basically an AMC Hornet that got it's tail chopped at a weird angle.

Robert, you being a "car" guy should know this. Maybe if you weren't so obsessed with beastiality issues, you would have done YOUR research
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#9 Consumer Comment

I made it easy for you Rickie

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

Here it is, straight off the website that Independence MO has. It gives the rates for both Independence, and Kansas City MO.

City Sales Rate
Use Rate
Food Sales
Food Use
Dom. Utility Rate

Independence 6.85% 4.22% 3.85% 1.22% 1.50%
Kansas City, Mo 6.60 5.72 3.60 2.72 0

The sales tax rates for the two cities are 6.25%, just as the OP stated, in Independence, and 6.60% for Kansas City. The Food Sales is an extra 3.85%, or 3.60%...Just as I said.

Math is easy once you learn it. Take off your shoes. You'll be "cypherin'" up to 20 in no time.

It's funny how people who live in a particular location tend to know more about that place than someone who doesn't. Those of who know how to research something, learn more every day.

BTW, don't crack too much on the Gremlins. The Penske-Donohue Team raced them back in the early '70's and won alot of races. The Gremlin-X
is still a very sought after car. With either the 304, or 401 engine, they were very quick. The 401 embarrassed many a Camaro and Mustang.

You know what a Mustang is. A horse. Now, what was it a read in the news again about horses, people, and Washington State?
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#10 Consumer Comment

Hey Rickie, stick with posts dealing with sex with horses

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

Robert in Independence MO says his state sales tax is 6.25%. I went to the Independence MO website(the one the City puts up) and found their 3.85% tax on prepared food. The numbers match. Going to someone else's site, rather than one that would matter, for information is typical of a dimwit.

You should stick with posts dealing with sex with horses. You guys in WA seem to be making the news with that.
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#11 Consumer Comment

Hey Rickie, stick with posts dealing with sex with horses

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

Robert in Independence MO says his state sales tax is 6.25%. I went to the Independence MO website(the one the City puts up) and found their 3.85% tax on prepared food. The numbers match. Going to someone else's site, rather than one that would matter, for information is typical of a dimwit.

You should stick with posts dealing with sex with horses. You guys in WA seem to be making the news with that.
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Wrong once again Robbie - The C & T tax is the Convention and Tourism tax imposed on restaurants and hotels in Platte, Jackson and Clay counties

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

Actually
state sales tax = 4.225
city tax = 2.375
county tax = .875
C & T tax = 2.0
Total = 9.475

The C & T tax is the Convention and Tourism tax imposed on restaurants and hotels in Platte, Jackson and Clay counties. Here's the link and you can see for yourself. The above example is for Clay county. Platte and Jackson are very close. I figured it was Clay though.

Amazing that McDonalds is actually classified as a restaurant.

http://www.kcconvention.com/finance/clayrest.pdf

Robbie, stick with posts regarding oil changes on '74 Gremlins.
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Wrong once again Robbie - The C & T tax is the Convention and Tourism tax imposed on restaurants and hotels in Platte, Jackson and Clay counties

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

Actually
state sales tax = 4.225
city tax = 2.375
county tax = .875
C & T tax = 2.0
Total = 9.475

The C & T tax is the Convention and Tourism tax imposed on restaurants and hotels in Platte, Jackson and Clay counties. Here's the link and you can see for yourself. The above example is for Clay county. Platte and Jackson are very close. I figured it was Clay though.

Amazing that McDonalds is actually classified as a restaurant.

http://www.kcconvention.com/finance/clayrest.pdf

Robbie, stick with posts regarding oil changes on '74 Gremlins.
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Wrong once again Robbie - The C & T tax is the Convention and Tourism tax imposed on restaurants and hotels in Platte, Jackson and Clay counties

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

Actually
state sales tax = 4.225
city tax = 2.375
county tax = .875
C & T tax = 2.0
Total = 9.475

The C & T tax is the Convention and Tourism tax imposed on restaurants and hotels in Platte, Jackson and Clay counties. Here's the link and you can see for yourself. The above example is for Clay county. Platte and Jackson are very close. I figured it was Clay though.

Amazing that McDonalds is actually classified as a restaurant.

http://www.kcconvention.com/finance/clayrest.pdf

Robbie, stick with posts regarding oil changes on '74 Gremlins.
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#15 Consumer Comment

What is your complaint, other than voting people into office who steal as much money as they can from the taxpayers?

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

Your state sales tax is 6.25%. Your City tax on food is 3.85%. That equals 10.10%. The numbers add up perfectly.

What is your complaint, other than voting people into office who steal as much money as they can from the taxpayers?

The owner of that business sees ZERO% of that 10.10% he must collect. In exchange for making ZERO dollars on that collected amount, he gets to do all the work neccessary for the State and City to recieve it...and does it for FREE.

What a country!
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