• Report: #92147

Complaint Review: M.O.R.E. Incorporated - T.J. Rohleder

  • Submitted: Wed, May 19, 2004
  • Updated: Thu, March 17, 2005

  • Reported By:Saginaw Texas
M.O.R.E. Incorporated - T.J. Rohleder
305 East Main Goessel, Kansas U.S.A.

M.O.R.E. Incorporated (T.J. Rohleder) ripoff! Goessel Kansas

*Consumer Suggestion: Get your money back

*Consumer Comment: Thirteen Years Doing Business with M.O.R.E.

*Consumer Comment: They must be doing something right to keep anybody off their back and put them out of business.

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READERS BEWARE of M.O.R.E. Incorporated!!!!

If you receive anything from "M.O.R.E. Incorporated" or "T.J. Rohleder" throw it in the trash IMMEDIATELY!!! DO NOT OPEN THE PACKAGE!!! It will be dangerous to your financial well-being!!!

Once you get on their mailing list, they bombard your mailbox with all sorts of "pie-in-the-sky" business schemes. Do not make the mistake of getting involved, like I did!

I speak from experience because I got started with their "10 FREE WebPages" and then signed on as a "Beta-Tester Member" for their "50 Top eBooks"

They are selling a website business opportunity that is marketing substandard eBooks that they have created with their "Hundred Million Dollar Roundtable Group" as well as passing off re-seller eBooks and webpages "as their own".

I started with them in July 03 and didn't get a website up until Oct 03. I was contacting them constantly to draw attention to mistakes and problems with the website. Up until I quit in Mar 04, the website was still not working properly but throughout that time I was getting other "groundbreaking opportunities" for 150 websites, 500 websites, Website of the Month and an Internet Mall, yet the website I already had wasn't working properly.

Although the concept of their website business sounds great and somewhat inexpensive, the marketing costs and efforts to be successful can be into the thousands of dollars every month. In order to cover your marketing costs you need to sell a few hundred of the $14.95 eBooks to breakeven. That may not sound like a lot but you need to realize that there may be 1,000's of these duplicate websites out there just like yours trying to flog the same things.

Despite what the marketing literature says, they have been flogging this "NEW" website business opportunities to thousands of people since 2002.

In short, their website business opportunities will not work!

They have a money-back guarantee policy but do not be deceived. Apparently you can get your money back "if you are not satisfied" but you cannot get your money back in the case where they failure to deliver a working website or for finding their misleading, false and inaccurate representations.

I sent them a series of 9 faxes; because that is the only way you can contact them. I offered them the opportunity to refund my money but they refused.

The lesson here: Do not send them any money so you never have to be concerned with their interpretation of what qualifies for a refund.

Saginaw, Texas

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Get your money back

AUTHOR: Michele - (U.S.A.)

In response to the individuals that have been taken in by MORE INC in Goessel Kansas. You have my deepest sincerity that you have had to deal with MORE INC. The CONSTANT mailings, double mailings, triple mailings, wrong information on the websites, broken links, broken promises and all the other lost money, time and HOPE that you had BEFORE you entered into business with MORE INC.
I worked there I KNOW what they do. In essence they take the money that you purchase the websites with and use it in investment purposes that benefit them. Then they issue you a REPLICATED site. Takes them 10 seconds TOPS to get it up and running! YET some people still wait WEEKS OR MONTHS for their site to get on the web! WHY? Because there is NO organization AT ALL to MORE INC. When I worked there I asked for 3 DAYS in a ROW, What do we sell? NO ONE could answer me! NO ONE understood what the systems were. ALL they had were aversion tactics to AVOID customer questions. I went online and had to search for sites of our customers to get a handle on what they were buying. Soon it became apparent from the data base of OVER 5000 current or past owners of websites (remember the litterature ALWAYS boasts select FEW members!) that the systems were constantly being marketed to elder persons or people who DIDNT even have computers. This was for ONE reason, so that you COULDNT check on your site! If you did manage to find your site online, you were told that you need to advertise with POSTCARDS FROM MORE INC. The mailing list you were issued IS customers of MORE INC. I cant tell you how many times I encountered the customer who received 3 or more post cards for THE SAME program they have from OTHER customers who had it. The horror stories I hold from experience would go on forever on this page. The ONLY reason MORE INC is NOT out of business is they use customer loyalty and the FRIENDSHIP notion to sway people from becoming upset. OR they give you a refund (after taking FOREVER) along with a legal notice saying that you will turn away and never say anything. I know of SEVERAL groups of individuals who were BLACKLISTED because they realized what a COMPLETE waste of money and time this was! The "Ebooks" that you are selling, can be found on the internet FOR FREE! The "Handbooks" you are issued to "Run" your business are HYPE without INFORMATION! I have read EVERY book they put out and they tell you all about the MONEY to be made, BUT they DONT tell you how! Its ALL propaganda without any REALITY! If you still have money involved in MORE INC, Jeff Gardner (theres another topic I could go on forever about!), Ted Ciuba or any of the OTHER numerous Affiliates of MORE INC, get your reciepts together (you may need to prove payments) write a fax (its the only way you'll get through) give them an outline of how much money you have spent(include waisted postage and misc you had to buy), Give them a DEADLINE to have your money returned (they do their refunds on FRIDAY every week) and tell them that if they CALL (they'll try to smooth talk you) or send anymore information and do NOT give you a refund NOW! that you will contact the Attorney General and FDIC of Kansas.MORE INC responds to ONE thing and that is ANY outside reviews of their business! Wonder why? Do this and you can get your money back.
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#2 Consumer Comment

Thirteen Years Doing Business with M.O.R.E.

AUTHOR: Ken - (U.S.A.)

In support of M.O.R.E., I have done business with these people on and off since 1992 with both low and high end products. They have never failed to timely honor their moneyback guarantees on both product and inventory. I have always immediately reached them by phone or received a return call within twenty-four hours.

I did not invest in the eBook venture, because I deemed it not to be a lucrative venture. With any business decision, one must use educated, speculative decision making. No guarantees can possibly be made as to the success of any business endeavor. The unique thing about M.O.R.E. is that there is no or low financial risk involved. In my experience they do honor there guarantees without question.

I have not done business with this company for several years, so I decided to checkout ripoffreport.com to make sure that they are still maintaining a good track record. I have now invested in their new Internet Advertising and Management Service. In the unlikely event that anything funky happens I will be sure to file an update.
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#3 Consumer Comment

They must be doing something right to keep anybody off their back and put them out of business.

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

I only see two complaints about this company which is like a drop in the bucket considering that the Company M.O.R.E has been in business since 1989. They must be doing something right to keep anybody off their back and put them out of business. These are two valid complaints that need to be addressed.

I have done business with this company when they were selling low end opportunities. They have expanded into the higher end opportunities that can cost you $3,000 to upgrade. They do offer a no questions guarantee that if you are not satisfied for any reason, you will get a refund.

What bothers me about this online opportunity is the Company M.O.R.E. This T.J is always on the hype bandwagon of the company making over $10,000,000 in a short period of time using the same system that they are using, but cannot and will not promise what you can earn with their system (red flag), because it's also illegal for them to project any earnings. You only get out of any program what you put into it. I don't think they are really going to show you how to get leads to view your website that they will also setup for you.

On the entry level of $50.00, you get a Free $800.00 Website. M.O.R.E will host it for 60 days
FREE. After 60 days it will cost you $17.00 per month for hosting or you can refuse before the 60 day trial period is over, because they need your credit card info to process.

If you upgrade to the $3,000 system, M.O.R.E will host your website Free plus the earning scale is more, and all kinds of other bonuses to induce you
to send $3,000

What bothers me about M.O.R.E is a $10,000,000+ company that doesn't even have a company website or a e-mail address for communicating. They do have a legit telephone number and a fax number.

Sure would like to see more complaints about this company or some positive responses from individuals that have bought these high priced systems.

Any of the low end products or services that I've bought from M.O.R.E, I've earned nothing. I don't feel bad, because I didn't lay out a couple of thousand dollars like some have done.

I hope this helps any body reading this posting and look forward to seeing more posts on this subject. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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