• Report: #368333

Complaint Review: My Gynecologist - Karl And Natalie Leibensperger

  • Submitted: Sat, August 30, 2008
  • Updated: Wed, January 25, 2012

  • Reported By:Hernando County Florida
My Gynecologist - Karl And Natalie Leibensperger
11175 County Line Road Spring Hill, Florida U.S.A.

Karl And Natalie Leibensperger AKA My Gynecologist (self-claiming Gynecologist), Spring Hill, Hernando County, FL, scam local patients and Judge helping in Spring Hill, Florida

*General Comment: not a real ob??

*Consumer Comment: Inclined to Believe This Story

*Consumer Comment: Wow talk about stretching the truth

*General Comment: Possible Class Action Suit

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: PROOF PROOF PROOF

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: PROOF PROOF PROOF

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: PROOF PROOF PROOF

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: PROOF PROOF PROOF

*UPDATE Employee: Thanx you

*Author of original report: Karl And Natalie Leibensperger AKA My Gynecologist ("self-claiming Gynecologist"), Spring Hill, Hernando County, FL, scamming local patients and Judge helping in Spring Hill, Florida

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I could go into extensive details and back-up what I am stating with legal proof but in a nut shell (yes, this is the short version but still factual): I am currently living in Hernando County, FL. (which corruption rules). A few women in this county are sued every 2-3 months for frivolous cases by the same 'doctor' (Karl and Natalie Leibensperger - Karl does not work (former DO) he only sues women, and Natalie is the unlicensed 'OB/GYN', she does have a DO) (both put up a front of being Christians and HIDE behind their Christian fish symbols) and overseen by the same 'county judge' (Kurt Hitzemann). This doctor (who is no longer licensed to practice medicine) is married to another so-called doctor who does practice OB/GYN without a license to do so. These two are very good friends with one of the "good old boys' club" judges here. These women set up appointments to be seen by this 'doctor', they are made to wait until they leave or have to reschedule and then are billed for this (not being seen and made to wait). When you contact the 'doctor' in regards to the bill, he is vile, abusive and crude, refuses to listen, and then he sues you (it is very apparent that his only intentions are to sue you). My original bill was for $70.00, I am being sued for $400.00. When these women are sued (the info is public records), they are all labeled/ruled guilty by the same judge, and end up owing/paying TEN TIMES the amount of the amount of the law suit (TEN TIMES, never fails). ALL of these women are self-employed (have their own businesses), over a certain child-bearing age (therefore, they will not be making "big bucks" on them anymore), AND own property. According to the Tampa Tribune and other media, these judges where selected to expedite foreclosures in Hernando County a few years ago. This 'doctor' purchases three to four homes/properties with a value ranging from $175K to 900K EVERY WEEK and then is able to pay off each mortgage in full and receives the deed/title to these properties and this all occurs THE FOLLOWING WEEK of purchase! (Again, this is all public info). Now like the rest of these women, as a small (actually tiny) business owner, I do not have the funds to pay a lawyer to fight these maggots (that is why they do it). I own two properties, have two mortgages (one large and one that is approximately 1/4th the value of the property), owe HUGE taxes on both properties and home owner's insurance and they know that since this too is public information. I had a 'pretrial mediation' hearing and asked for this judge to be recuse from this case, he denied it. My 'mediation' consisted of the 'judge', myself and the 'doctor', there were no witnesses allowed and no mediator! The 'judge' wanted to force me to say I owe this money; I explained that I had been a patient for over 3.5 years and never had billing/$ issues and always paid what I owed (which was over 21K for prenatal care, delivering my youngest child, postpartum, regular check-ups throughout the years etc.) but that I was never seen, made to wait a couple of HOURS, being promised I was next to be seen, then was told I had to leave because the office was closed and handed a bill for $70.00. When the judge realized I would not be intimidated or tricked into saying that in his own words, "So you refuse to pay the money you owe My Gynecologist (Leibensperger ) for services rendered?!", I corrected him by stating there were no services rendered therefore there is not bill to pay and if there were services rendered, where are the results of my labs form the lab, not Leibensperger (although Leibensperger told me he could make up any record he wished). Judge Hitzemann ignored my statement along with my TWENTY-ONE pages of documentations backing up what I was stating and continued to try to intimidate and trick me, but it did not work. I mentioned the media to him (the 'judge') and handed him his history with this 'doctor' and their frivolous, illegal law suits and he then claimed, "We are going to trial and I AM THE JUDGE. I will then determine the outcome of this law suit." This was a threat, not a legal statement. I have tried contacting the other women involved but have had no success. They are all 'gone', moved from this county with unlisted phone numbers and most I can not find, they disappeared. I have a family of five. I work hard for every cent and then give every cent back to the county to pay my every-growing bills. I need a lawyer but can not afford one and even if I could, not one will go up against these "gold old boys"...these words have been repeated over and over to me like a mantra. If there are any lawyers out there who want to take on these "good old boys", please contact me! I have hundreds of pages to prove what I state (I have done the work for you), I just need someone to represent me! Also, if anyone knows how to take on an entire corrupt court system without getting my family hurt, please respond!!! And for everyone else, PLEASE do your homework before selecting a doctor, place to live and all the other "obvious".

Midnight Aura
Hernando County, Florida
U.S.A.

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#1 General Comment

not a real ob??

AUTHOR: mommy1710 - (United States of America)

If they arent legit OBs or GYNS then how are they able to practice in hernando county?
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#2 Consumer Comment

Inclined to Believe This Story

AUTHOR: Thomas B. Dunson - (United States of America)

I am inclined to believe the author of the original post. I used to live in Hernando County, and was a victim of Hitzman's shady practices as a judge. He is extremely corrupt and is in cahoots with other authorities in Hernando County to extort money from people, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was involved in fast-tracking foreclosures like the one I went through.

I am also inclined to believe that he targets certain groups of people, very much in keeping with the good ol' boy mentality that prevails throughout Hernando County. It is "Deliverance" by the sea.

In addition to my personal experiences, I have also seen his fancy footwork in action with other people I know. He is a big fish in a small pond, and a sociopath who needs to be stopped. The things he does would never fly up north in a bigger city, which is why I came to believe that Florida is little more than a corrupt southern state, stuck in the mindset of pre-civil rights oppression.

I hope this woman, and others like her, receive some sort of justice. The Internet at least offers a forum where one can post complaints when the corrupt practices of small towns do their best to stifle dissent of any kind.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Wow talk about stretching the truth

AUTHOR: aquadoctor - (United States of America)

My Wife has been going to My Gyno for years and we have never had a problem with a bill. Your story makes zero sense. First a Judge does not meet with either the Plantiff or Defendant. I have been involved with many small claims actions with the Honorable Kurt Hitzemann as the Judge and never once does he do mediation. He simply sends you in a room with mediators and if you work things out great, if not, he sets it for trial.

I think some of the problem may be the fact that you do not pay attention to what is really going on, Judges dont due mediation and Doctors do not bill you for visits that you dont have. Are you sure you did not see her other Doctor and because you didn't see Natalie you were upset by the bill.

Truth is you thought you had mediation with a Judge, maybe you felt like you should not pay unless you saw the Doctor herself? Just saying your story does not make any sense.

And trust me Karl nor Natalie do not "Purchase three to four houses per week"  just go online pumpkin and look at the tax records...... Grow up pay your bills and quit lying about people.
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#4 General Comment

Possible Class Action Suit

AUTHOR: Melaina - (United States of America)

I too have been a victim of this office's unethical practices. I am not yet in litigation of this case, but was wondering if anyone out there has also considered a class action suit against My Gynocologist? On the clerks website there are at least 10 people that have been sued by this dr's office in the last few years. I will go into detail on my own complaint as to how we have been unfairly treated and how the cost of the visit was inflated to an unbelievable rate!

 

Please email me if anyone out there is interested in exploring the possibilites of a class action law suit.  (((Redacted)))

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

PROOF PROOF PROOF

AUTHOR: Mrca - (U.S.A.)

To: Karl and Natalie Leibensperger (My Gynecologist, Spring Hill, Florida)

Since Karl is so small he has to continue to lie about this and could not settle it like an adult, you have left me NO choice but to stoop to YOUR level and defend myself against your LIBEL ACTIONS, in this type of arena (website "Rip Off Report").

I have been watching this report since it was brought to my attention. Again, I do not know who wrote this (if you knew ANYTHING about me, you would know why I did not write this!), perhaps one of your MANY law suit victims? [It is on-line folks; it is public info. ... type in http://www.clerk.co.hernando.fl.us/SearchType.asp in your browser then select civil/probate, criminal, &/or official records and for name type in My Gynecologist (here you will find the people they have sued) AND under their own names (Natalie Leibensperger) and then (Karl Leibensperger) you will find more people they have sued]... IT IS PUBLIC INFO

Keep hiding behind your fish, people WILL discover what you are really about for themselves.

You are obviously quite capable of continuing to lie on this site and any other, but your reputation will eventually catch up to you and ruin your wife's career like you did your own.

I have never owed your wife's company any money and NOW, thanks to your staff, I have proof that I NEVER owed you or your wife's company any money (before, during, or after the law suit)! THANKS AGAIN!!! Total balance due from 2004 - 2008 $0.00!!! If you are going to continue to libel, harass, and sue people, you should train your staff not to give out documents that completely contradict what you claim.

...Did I mention I took down witnesses' names when you tried to hit my three year old, four year old, and myself with your very expensive, convertible car in the parking lot, because you were out-raged that I exposed to the courts what you really are?

NOW I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE PROOF I NEED FOR YOUR LIBEL ACTIONS (AMONGST SEVERAL OTHER OF YOUR ACTIONS), THANK YOU! You appear to love to be in court.
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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

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AUTHOR: Mrca - (U.S.A.)

To: Karl and Natalie Leibensperger (My Gynecologist, Spring Hill, Florida)

Since Karl is so small he has to continue to lie about this and could not settle it like an adult, you have left me NO choice but to stoop to YOUR level and defend myself against your LIBEL ACTIONS, in this type of arena (website "Rip Off Report").

I have been watching this report since it was brought to my attention. Again, I do not know who wrote this (if you knew ANYTHING about me, you would know why I did not write this!), perhaps one of your MANY law suit victims? [It is on-line folks; it is public info. ... type in http://www.clerk.co.hernando.fl.us/SearchType.asp in your browser then select civil/probate, criminal, &/or official records and for name type in My Gynecologist (here you will find the people they have sued) AND under their own names (Natalie Leibensperger) and then (Karl Leibensperger) you will find more people they have sued]... IT IS PUBLIC INFO

Keep hiding behind your fish, people WILL discover what you are really about for themselves.

You are obviously quite capable of continuing to lie on this site and any other, but your reputation will eventually catch up to you and ruin your wife's career like you did your own.

I have never owed your wife's company any money and NOW, thanks to your staff, I have proof that I NEVER owed you or your wife's company any money (before, during, or after the law suit)! THANKS AGAIN!!! Total balance due from 2004 - 2008 $0.00!!! If you are going to continue to libel, harass, and sue people, you should train your staff not to give out documents that completely contradict what you claim.

...Did I mention I took down witnesses' names when you tried to hit my three year old, four year old, and myself with your very expensive, convertible car in the parking lot, because you were out-raged that I exposed to the courts what you really are?

NOW I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE PROOF I NEED FOR YOUR LIBEL ACTIONS (AMONGST SEVERAL OTHER OF YOUR ACTIONS), THANK YOU! You appear to love to be in court.
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#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds

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AUTHOR: Mrca - (U.S.A.)

To: Karl and Natalie Leibensperger (My Gynecologist, Spring Hill, Florida)

Since Karl is so small he has to continue to lie about this and could not settle it like an adult, you have left me NO choice but to stoop to YOUR level and defend myself against your LIBEL ACTIONS, in this type of arena (website "Rip Off Report").

I have been watching this report since it was brought to my attention. Again, I do not know who wrote this (if you knew ANYTHING about me, you would know why I did not write this!), perhaps one of your MANY law suit victims? [It is on-line folks; it is public info. ... type in http://www.clerk.co.hernando.fl.us/SearchType.asp in your browser then select civil/probate, criminal, &/or official records and for name type in My Gynecologist (here you will find the people they have sued) AND under their own names (Natalie Leibensperger) and then (Karl Leibensperger) you will find more people they have sued]... IT IS PUBLIC INFO

Keep hiding behind your fish, people WILL discover what you are really about for themselves.

You are obviously quite capable of continuing to lie on this site and any other, but your reputation will eventually catch up to you and ruin your wife's career like you did your own.

I have never owed your wife's company any money and NOW, thanks to your staff, I have proof that I NEVER owed you or your wife's company any money (before, during, or after the law suit)! THANKS AGAIN!!! Total balance due from 2004 - 2008 $0.00!!! If you are going to continue to libel, harass, and sue people, you should train your staff not to give out documents that completely contradict what you claim.

...Did I mention I took down witnesses' names when you tried to hit my three year old, four year old, and myself with your very expensive, convertible car in the parking lot, because you were out-raged that I exposed to the courts what you really are?

NOW I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE PROOF I NEED FOR YOUR LIBEL ACTIONS (AMONGST SEVERAL OTHER OF YOUR ACTIONS), THANK YOU! You appear to love to be in court.
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#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds

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AUTHOR: Mrca - (U.S.A.)

To: Karl and Natalie Leibensperger (My Gynecologist, Spring Hill, Florida)

Since Karl is so small he has to continue to lie about this and could not settle it like an adult, you have left me NO choice but to stoop to YOUR level and defend myself against your LIBEL ACTIONS, in this type of arena (website "Rip Off Report").

I have been watching this report since it was brought to my attention. Again, I do not know who wrote this (if you knew ANYTHING about me, you would know why I did not write this!), perhaps one of your MANY law suit victims? [It is on-line folks; it is public info. ... type in http://www.clerk.co.hernando.fl.us/SearchType.asp in your browser then select civil/probate, criminal, &/or official records and for name type in My Gynecologist (here you will find the people they have sued) AND under their own names (Natalie Leibensperger) and then (Karl Leibensperger) you will find more people they have sued]... IT IS PUBLIC INFO

Keep hiding behind your fish, people WILL discover what you are really about for themselves.

You are obviously quite capable of continuing to lie on this site and any other, but your reputation will eventually catch up to you and ruin your wife's career like you did your own.

I have never owed your wife's company any money and NOW, thanks to your staff, I have proof that I NEVER owed you or your wife's company any money (before, during, or after the law suit)! THANKS AGAIN!!! Total balance due from 2004 - 2008 $0.00!!! If you are going to continue to libel, harass, and sue people, you should train your staff not to give out documents that completely contradict what you claim.

...Did I mention I took down witnesses' names when you tried to hit my three year old, four year old, and myself with your very expensive, convertible car in the parking lot, because you were out-raged that I exposed to the courts what you really are?

NOW I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE PROOF I NEED FOR YOUR LIBEL ACTIONS (AMONGST SEVERAL OTHER OF YOUR ACTIONS), THANK YOU! You appear to love to be in court.
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#9 UPDATE Employee

Thanx you

AUTHOR: Karl Leibensperger, Do - (U.S.A.)

Dear Marilyn Allen,

Even though it took until three days before the trial, we do appreciate your payment in full.
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#10 Author of original report

Karl And Natalie Leibensperger AKA My Gynecologist ("self-claiming Gynecologist"), Spring Hill, Hernando County, FL, scamming local patients and Judge helping in Spring Hill, Florida

AUTHOR: Midnight Aura - (U.S.A.)

The Title SHOULD read Karl And Natalie Leibensperger AKA My Gynecologist ("self-claiming Gynecologist"), Spring Hill, Hernando County, FL, scamming local patients and Judge helping in Spring Hill, Florida... NOT: Karl And Natalie Leibensperger AKA My Gynecologist Hernando County being scammed by local "self-claiming Gynecologist" and Judge helping Spring Hill Florida (this was an error due to inputting information into a form that did not flow well)... but the story still hold true.
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