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  • Submitted: Sat, November 03, 2012
  • Updated: Sun, March 10, 2013

  • Reported By: lucylou — newport Kentucky USA
narconon fresh start
35025 hwy 79 warner springs ca warner springs, California United States of America

narconon fresh start sunshine summit lodge SCAM-Help me get my $30k back and help others from being victimized warner springs, California

*General Comment: Narconon is in trouble

*Consumer Suggestion: Reaching for the Tipping Point

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Reaching for the Tipping Point

*Consumer Comment: Reaching The Tipping Point Scam

*Author of original report: Resolved issues

*Consumer Comment: Narconon Fresh Start Sunshine Summit

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Im not going to repeat everyone's stories Ive read about narconon. Its horrible! Im a very thorough person but when my son came to me and wanted help, I became emotional and against my better judgement let these people snow me. It started with a "referral" site was suppose to be independent of any rehab programs. Long story short as soon as my son got to the center after his non medical detox he was sent to the center in warner springs california, called sunshine summit lodge, narconon fresh start. Everything these people told me on the phone were complete and utter lies!!! the brochure made it look so nice. They said had the best medical staff at this site with the best doctors and nurses. They have NO medical staff there. So I had to lie about a death in the family to get my son out of there. So here I am out of $30,000, my life savings. I have written ca attorney general's office which because the facility gets no government funding they cannot do anything.  I just wrote the FBI internet fraud site. Someone please help me figure out how to get my money back and shut this dam place down. Why dont we all get together and get a class action lawsuit against these scientology, lying predators and put a stop to this!!

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#1 General Comment

Narconon is in trouble

AUTHOR: RGH - ()

Things to research about Narconon before giving them any money:

Narconon is as expensive, but the facilities are known for being sub-par.

Narconon pays money to the Scientology Organization, is licensed by Scientology, and indoctrinates it's clients into Scientology, using auditing, e-meters, and the Purification Rundown, which involves many hours in a sauna coupled with useless liver compromising doses of Niacin.

Many Narconon "counselors" were recently stripped of their certifications because they obtained them deceptively.

Narconon has multiple suits both settled and in progress, for fraud and wrongful death.

Narconon GA misrepresented itself as an inpatient facility, when, in fact it was not licensed as such. It is now being investigated for insurance fraud for filing a $100,00 plus insurance claim without the knowledge or permission of the insured.

Beside the well researched information on Reaching for the Tipping Point, here are other links to get started:
http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/5-new-suits-filed-against-narconon-plaintiffs-claim-breach-of-contract-fraud

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narconon

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

Reaching for the Tipping Point

AUTHOR: ethercat - (USA)

Reaching for the Tipping Point is a discussion forum that anyone can join for free to find out the facts that Narconon and George M do not want you to learn.

Reaching for the Tipping Point is a volunteer effort by concerned individuals, who seek nothing more than to prevent more people from being harmed unnecessarily by Narconon.  It is not a "front" for anything; it is not a money making venture of any sort.  George M desperately wants to make this Rip Off Report about something other than Narconon because it, along with the Tipping Point forum, threatens his income.

I invite all readers to visit the forum, whether you visit as a guest or register as a member, and judge for yourselves whether George M is telling the truth or whether he is lying again, as he and his employees did with lucylou, the original filer of this complaint.

Visiting Narconon: $30,000
Visiting Reaching for the Tipping Point: FREE
Finding out the truth before you choose a rehab: Priceless!

ReachingForTheTippingPoint.net or reaching4.info
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Reaching for the Tipping Point

AUTHOR: Victims Advocate - (United States of America)

Those are some bold claims there George.  But here is some truth, the study you cited that is supposedly from an unbiased outside source is, IN FACT, done by a Scientologist.  Marie Ceccini is/was involved with the "church" of Scientology at the time it was written. 

Here is another fact, the way in which Narconon obtained the CCDC certifications for their staff was done in a way that is considered cheating in every academic organization on planet Earth.  I guess Narconon thinks they are above the standards though... 

Oh wait, here's some more truth.  Narconon and some fellow scientologists were not happy with just the CCDC certs so they formed their own certification agency called "The Pita Group Inc"  For a fee, you can get certified as an addicition counselor.  So you have an organization formed by scientologists to certify scientology rehab staff so that non-scientologists in need of drug rehab would think they are legitimate counselors.  

George, can you say "Conflict of Interest"?  or "Fraud"?  

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#4 Consumer Comment

Reaching The Tipping Point Scam

AUTHOR: George M - (United States of America)

Narconon Fresh Start is a not for profit organisation. The primary mission of Narconon Fresh Start is the prevention of drug abuse through our drug education program "The Truth about Drugs" We deliver more drug education lectures to teens and young adults than any other organisation in the United States. The following link http://www.substanceabusepolicy.com/content/pdf/1747-597X-3-8.pdf is a published study showing the tremendous results of our "Truth About Drugs Program". It is the first study ever on Drug Education and Prevention, clearly showing a successful result in all categories of the way that teens and young adults change their point of view after receiving the presentation. I am not aware of any other Drug Rehab with a Drug Education and Prevention Program.

Narconon Fresh Start Parent Success Videos Link, 

http://www.sunshinesummitlodge.com/video_gallery.html

Beware of  the reach the tipping point group as they are a front group for the diseased based models which have a high failure rate in the treatment of drug addiction and alcoholism.

In the 1970's I went through many diseased based treatment models without success. Over time I became to realize that by their own philosophy "You are diseased and can never be cured" is a lie that make you feel hopeless and afraid each day of your life.

At Narconon Fresh Start I learn that I had made poor choices in my decision to use drugs and alcohol as part of my daily life. I learned that I could fix what I had done to myself and restore myself to the wonderful person that I was before I made the poor decision to use drugs and alcohol. That made sense to me and they delivered. Narconon Fresh Start is the most successful program in the world today and both me and my family will be forever grateful for what they did for us.

Enjoy The Parent Videos,

George M.
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#5 Author of original report

Resolved issues

AUTHOR: lucylou - (USA)

Narconon and my son and myself have totally resolved our issues regarding the sunshine summit lodge/narconon statement I made earlier.Thank you
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#6 Consumer Comment

Narconon Fresh Start Sunshine Summit

AUTHOR: Plot - (USA)

Lucylou,
There are several avenues that you can peruse and individuals who would like to help you, most (avenues) have been discussed at the website Reaching for the Tipping Point.

Please register at Reaching for the Tipping Point (((link redacted)))  and leave a comment someone WILL contact you. 

 CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
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