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Complaint Review: National Audit Defense Network - NADN - Oryan Management - Success Matrix

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  • Submitted: Sat, May 08, 2004
  • Updated: Tue, November 23, 2004

  • Reported By:Woodville Florida
National Audit Defense Network - NADN - Oryan Management - Success Matrix
4330 S Valley View Blvd, Suite 230 Las Vegas, Nevada U.S.A.

National Audit Defense Network - NADN - Oryan Management - Success Matrix Ripoff Deceptive Misleading Scam Won't give us our money back Las Vegas Nevada

*Consumer Suggestion: Any updates?

*Author of original report: Response to Cristian

*Consumer Suggestion: Valid attempt to put together a Consumer Law Suit against NADN?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Tax Return information

*Consumer Comment: Response to Sandra

*Consumer Comment: Audit??

*Consumer Comment: Audit??

*Consumer Comment: Audit??

*Consumer Comment: Audit??

*Consumer Suggestion: Maybe our refund is with the Bankruptcy Court in Las Vegas

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: NADN 2003 UNFILED TAX RETURNS NOTICE FROM BANKRUPTCY COURT

*Consumer Comment: What Do We Do Now?

*Author of original report: NADN is no longer in Business.

*Consumer Comment: another lie from NADN

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This is the latest news clip, if you've had them file your taxes beaware that they are being required to tell who has used their service. IRS, most likely will audit them all.

Dorothy
Woodviile

CALIFORNIA
Judge Curbs Tax Shelter Promoter
A scheme marketed by Oryan Management allegedly cost the Treasury $99 million.
By Kathy M. Kristof
Times Staff Writer

May 8, 2004

A federal judge has barred an Ontario firm and four individuals from preparing tax returns after they engaged in a scheme to sell bogus tax shelters, the Justice Department said Friday.

The scam falsely promised business owners a way to get tax benefits by modifying company websites to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act, the Justice Department said.

The shelter scheme was organized by a Las Vegas telemarketing firm called National Audit Defense Network, according to a suit filed by the Justice Department last month. Officials blame the scheme for tax revenue losses of $324 million.

The Ontario company, Oryan Management & Financial Services, and the four individuals were accused of promoting the scheme, accounting for $99 million of the losses to the Treasury.

Under the court order handed down last week, Oryan and Daniel W. Porter of Chino, Robert Goetsch of Hayward, Michelle M. Hernandez of Upland and Joseph Prokop of Mt. Baldy must cease tax preparation and cooperate with the Justice Department, including providing names and Social Security numbers for their clients.

Their attorneys did not return phone calls Friday.

According to the Justice Department suit, National Audit Defense Network charged customers $2,495 in cash, plus a $7,980 "promissory note" $10,475 total to make bogus website modifications that it said would enable them to claim about $10,500 in tax credits and deductions.

The government alleges that the promissory note was a sham aimed at boosting the paper cost high enough to get the full benefit of the tax breaks.

The company allegedly told customers that they could use the payments to claim a $5,000 ADA income tax credit and a $5,475 business tax deduction.

Dorothy
Woodville, Florida
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Any updates?

AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)

Would like to hear any updates on this situation.
HAs anyone been audited by IRS?
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#2 Author of original report

Response to Cristian

AUTHOR: Dorothy - (U.S.A.)

To my knowledge, there is not a Class Action Suit in the making. Your best bet is to file with the Bankruptcy Court as described in earlier messages.
My husband and I refuted the charges on our charge card and have been reimbursed. However, it's not over yet for us. The Clearing House for there bank is still "muddying the water."
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Valid attempt to put together a Consumer Law Suit against NADN?

AUTHOR: Cristian - (U.S.A.)

Dorothy,
In your report you mentioned contacting a Class
Action Attorney. Any positive result yet?

I posted my rip-off report as:
http://badbusinessbureau.com/reports/ripoff96180.htm

Also, an ex-employee mentions an attempt to put together a Consumer Law Suit against NADN. There is an [DELETED] e-mail address mentioned there. Is this a valid effort? The rip-off report containing it is:
http://badbusinessbureau.com/reports/ripoff93329.htm
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tax Return information

AUTHOR: Dorothy - (U.S.A.)

Dear Mall Owner:

Information about your Tax Return is available at this web site:
www.nvb.uscourts.gov

If you scroll down, you should see an entry for
NATIONAL AUDIT DEFENSE NETWORK Case number: 03-17306

The link contains the following message:

District of Nevada U.S.B.C.
National Audit Defense Network

Subject: Tax Returns and Audit Defense
Last updated: 06/04/2004

NADN provided tax return preparation and audit defense services.

A number of tax returns have been completed and many are in the process of completion. The estate will not be releasing those tax returns in the immediate future. Negotiations are ongoing to provide a follow-up entity to complete those tax returns. Please check back regularly for a status on the return of those tax returns.

No support is currently available for audit defense. You are advised to contact a tax attorney to assist you in an ongoing audit.
Please do not contact the Bankruptcy Court, the Office of the United States Trustee, the Clerk~s office or the Trustee regarding tax returns or audits.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Response to Sandra

AUTHOR: Dorothy - (U.S.A.)

Sandra it's our understanding that "only those who had their Taxes Prepared and Submitted by NADN" have need to worry. We let them prepare our 203 Tax Return, however we got word of what was going on and had a CPA redo and submitt our 2003 Tax Return. IRS, potentialy, could "red flag" all returns done by NADN because of their ruling against the deductions and credits that NADN was falsely using. Also, according to material we've read, IRS requested NADN to provide them with names and addresses of all clients that NADN had represented.
Suggestion: Any mall owner or tax prep user of NADN, that allowed NADN to prepare and "file" should contact IRS and advise that we were duped into believing that what they were dooing was legal.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Audit??

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

Who could be audited? Any one who ever used NADN to prepare their taxes? Or just the people who bought the Mall for All? I used NADN for a couple of years to prepare my taxes but never bought any of the crap they were trying to sell me. The last year I used their services was in 2002. Am I in any danger of being audited?
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#7 Consumer Comment

Audit??

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

Who could be audited? Any one who ever used NADN to prepare their taxes? Or just the people who bought the Mall for All? I used NADN for a couple of years to prepare my taxes but never bought any of the crap they were trying to sell me. The last year I used their services was in 2002. Am I in any danger of being audited?
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#8 Consumer Comment

Audit??

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

Who could be audited? Any one who ever used NADN to prepare their taxes? Or just the people who bought the Mall for All? I used NADN for a couple of years to prepare my taxes but never bought any of the crap they were trying to sell me. The last year I used their services was in 2002. Am I in any danger of being audited?
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#9 Consumer Comment

Audit??

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

Who could be audited? Any one who ever used NADN to prepare their taxes? Or just the people who bought the Mall for All? I used NADN for a couple of years to prepare my taxes but never bought any of the crap they were trying to sell me. The last year I used their services was in 2002. Am I in any danger of being audited?
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

Maybe our refund is with the Bankruptcy Court in Las Vegas

AUTHOR: Sarah - (U.S.A.)

The only way we MIGHT get our money back is through the bankruptcy court.
Now that NADN is in chapter 7 of bankruptcy this is the only help we might get.
If you filed a complaint with the Attorney General's Office in Las Vegas they should
send you a Proof of Claim form to fill out.
Their address is:
United States Bankruptcy Court
333 Las Vegas Blvd. South
Las Vegas, Nevada 89101
Phone (702) 388-6257
Case # 03-17306

They are having a meeting of the creditors, that would be me and you and anyone else
who has been ripped off by nadn, on July 8th 2004.
Call them if you haven't already.
Hope this helps you.

Now that they have filed chapter 7 maybe we will be freed from the promissory note that
is a bogus note anyway.
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#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company

NADN 2003 UNFILED TAX RETURNS NOTICE FROM BANKRUPTCY COURT

AUTHOR: Dorothy - (U.S.A.)

District of Nevada U.S.B.C.
National Audit Defense Network

Subject:
Tax Returns and Audit Defense
Last updated: 06/04/2004

NADN provided tax return preparation and audit defense services.

A number of tax returns have been completed and many are in the process of completion. The estate will not be releasing those tax returns in the immediate future. Negotiations are ongoing to provide a follow-up entity to complete those tax returns. Please check back regularly for a status on the return of those tax returns.

No support is currently available for audit defense. You are advised to contact a tax attorney to assist you in an ongoing audit.

Please do not contact the Bankruptcy Court, the Office of the United States Trustee, the Clerk's office or the Trustee regarding tax returns or audits.

Web site of Bankruptcy Court http://www.nve.uscourts.gov
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#12 Consumer Comment

What Do We Do Now?

AUTHOR: Carol - (U.S.A.)

Do you know how to proceed with this? We have been clients of NADN for the past couple of years. We also are waiting of tax returns since Feb. IF you have any info about what to do now we would sure appreciate it.
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#13 Author of original report

NADN is no longer in Business.

AUTHOR: Dorothy - (U.S.A.)

They Filed Chapt. 7, a Trustee was appointed, NADN staff was sent home, computers turned off and the locks on the doors changed. This transpired last Friday, my husband called Mr. Davis of DOJ and he confirmed what that they were "OUT OF BUSINESS."

My husband has sent documentation to a Class Action Attorney in Chicago, they have not responded yet. Additionally, Mr Davis at DOJ was copied on the email to the Class Action Attorney.
Any one having information on a Class Action other than what we have done, please contact Dorothy, Woodville.
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#14 Consumer Comment

another lie from NADN

AUTHOR: Beverly - (U.S.A.)

NADN has called me last week and this to tell me they won the lawsuit. Actually they were trying to get me to buy the hit generator. They said there was going to be an article in the paper about it. I have not heard anything about it, but I don't know how they could have won.

They still have my taxes and I believe they are holding onto them because of the legal troubles. I find it odd that they are taking this long, especially since they had my info in Feb.
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