• Report: #1117306

Complaint Review: North Van Lines

  • Submitted: Tue, January 21, 2014
  • Updated: Sun, February 09, 2014

  • Reported By: Chrthu — Atlanta Georgia
North Van Lines
163 South Street Hackensack , New Jersey USA

North Van Lines LYING DECIETFUL SCAM ARTIST THUGS Hackensack New Jersey

*Author of original report: YOU ARE A TROLL

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Great Job

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Great Job

*Author of original report: Bye idiots

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Legal Action

*Author of original report: NORTH VAN LINES=PATHETIC TERRORISTS

*Author of original report: Another fake response from North Van Lines

*Consumer Comment: I hired North van lines and waiting for delivery

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Not before you go first.. Hope you like the heat!

*General Comment: CHRTHU..YOU NEED HELP GOD BLESS YOU

*Author of original report: GO TO H***

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: CHRTHU a.k.a Airhead b.k.a uneducated

*Author of original report: Go Away Scamming Pigs

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Find a different hobby Chrthu

*Author of original report: Just accept responsibility for being con artists

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Cyber Bully

*Author of original report: Are you kidding me?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: North Van Lines, Inc. Response

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 This is a very bad company to do business with. They were once Merit Van Lines in which they received hundreds of bad complaints about shady business. Please do not do business with this company. They charge you money up front, which reputable movers won't do, require 70% before delivery, and have your items delivered by a third party which requires cash or postal money order for final payment. Oh did I also mention that your orignal binding estimate doubles or triples once the illegals pick up your furniture?  My original "binding" estimate was $1200 and then once my items were on the truck, it more than doubled to $2800, and you are forced to pay it or you will never see your belongings again. They are aIso very rude, hostile, and confrontational when they deliver your items. One mention of an attorney before you get your furniture and you may never see it again, or it will come back with broken/missing items. I know from experience and I would not want this to happen to anyone else. Please hire a reputable national moving company with a real BBB rating. This company is not registered with the BBB and makes up their own reviews. I even got a threatning e-mail from someone at the business after writing this review. This is a comapny full of immoral idiots.


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#1 Author of original report

YOU ARE A TROLL

AUTHOR: Chrthu - ()

Obviously this is someone from that crappy a* company.  You are pathetic.  You and I both know that this company is a fraud and has the reputation lower than a used car salesman.  Please advise this company to stop scamming people, gain some intelligence and business acumen, and earn a living the honest way.  I have reached a TON of people about this company so I have accomplished my goal.  All those people can go to h***

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#2 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Great Job

AUTHOR: chris - ()

I hired North Van Lines to relocate me from PA - CO. The estimate they gave me was very reasonable and affordable. I appreciated the honesty and the information they gave me to help me with my search for the right company. They did a great job with packing and loading. They did an even better job when it came to delivery. I recommend this company to every single person looking to move with a company with out being ripped off. North is an honest and reliable company. Thank you for doing a greattt job

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#3 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Great Job

AUTHOR: chris - ()

I hired North Van Lines to relocate me from PA - CO. The estimate they gave me was very reasonable and affordable. I appreciated the honesty and the information they gave me to help me with my search for the right company. They did a great job with packing and loading. They did an even better job when it came to delivery. I recommend this company to every single person looking to move with a company with out being ripped off. North is an honest and reliable company. Thank you for doing a greattt job

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#4 Author of original report

Bye idiots

AUTHOR: Chrthu - ()

Ha ha go run to law enforcement because you got called out.  I don't care and it's about time you stop responding and realize that you are a piece of garbage company you sorry worthless creeps.   STOP SCAMMING    People please read all reviews on thia company before hiring them, especially the ones on yelp.  Here is the link again.

http://www.yelp.com/not_recommended_reviews/CTJJlhWhL5s1kjn2y-acYw

 

 

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Legal Action

AUTHOR: North Van Lines, Inc. - ()

On 02/06/2014, after reading the new responses wishing death on our families, encouraging suicide, racism and terrorist accusations, we have officially involved the authorities and have taken legal action.

As per the instructions by the authority, we are no longer going to respond to this man until further notice.   To all readers, feel free to contact us requesting any information or documents to support any statements posted by North Van Lines, Inc. 

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#6 Author of original report

NORTH VAN LINES=PATHETIC TERRORISTS

AUTHOR: Chrthu - ()

HA HA HA HA I am laughing at you SCAM ARTISTS.  I am not afraid of anything I just don't have the time to drag you to court seeing that you are so pathetic and you may have not made enough scams this month to pay me.  I don't need your money I have PLENTY of it, and it is earned, not stolen from other people because I am too stupid, poor, and uneducated to make my own like you pigs.  You idiots are truly worthless and are worse than dog crap.  I am so sorry that you all are such braindead lowlives and will never amount to anything in life.  You should seriously think about ending your life.  You all are punks and terrorists who have no purpose in life, and your life has no value.  If you ever decide to earn your own money and not steal it, I could use a maid and a lawn maintenance person. You people would be perfect for the job.  I loathe losers like you all and I know that one day you all will be sitting in a jail cell for a very long time.  You should be ashamed of how much of a loser you are, and I'm sure all of your mothers were just as stupid and worthless.  Everyone at North Van Lines and their entire families are worthless scum and will ultimately be punished for their evil doings.  Stop writing rebuttals and just accept the fact that you are a worthless pig and will never amount to anything.  You are a terrorist, liar and theif who deserves to be in a prison basement.  You can send whatever you like to whomever you like, ans let's see if your claims have any merit.  You idiots are complete losers, and an embarassment to the human race.  Me and a few others who read your responses laugh at how stupid and pathetic you people are.  Grow up and start making an honest living, and teach your piss-poor family how to do the same.  

 Also, you mentioned that you know where I live and work so I have notified the proper authorities on a local and federal level about the nature of your comments, the history of your terroristic business practices, and you are being watched closely, trust me.  I am not at all intimidated by that comment because you fools are laughable.  If you ever tried to harass me at my home or place of employment, that would not be good for you.  Go crawl back under the rock that I discovered you under.  I hope to one day have the opportunity to spit in your face.

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#7 Author of original report

Another fake response from North Van Lines

AUTHOR: Chrthu - ()

You people are really desperate.  So since I wrote this review you have obvilosuly taken the time to create a fake person with fake documents to try and fool people.  AGAIN< the proof is in the pudding with the reviews from yelp.  Why would a random customer get on here defending you.  Actually, two alleged customers have written rebuttals about how I am wrong and they had good experiences.  That is downright pathetic.  The people at North Van Lines are dangerous criminals like I have said many times before.  And to this alleged customer, how would he/she assume that I had a good experience, just because he/she did?  That is because as mentioned before, North Van Lines flags negative reviews, and makes up good ones to try and fool possible future SCAM victims.  Well joke is on you becuase I know for a fact that my efforts have reached hundreds of people, in which I have made aware of your business practices.  I have reaceived dozens of e-mails of people either telling me they have had similar experiences, or telling me thank you for making them aware.  At leat 5 people have acknowledged that they almost used this SCAM of a company, but did not thanks to the information they received from my mass e-mail blast I did.  So my purpose has been served.  People are aware of the SCAM that this company is putting on, and word of mouth is spreading quickly.  I am very happe about this.  I have nothing else to say to cowards.

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#8 Consumer Comment

I hired North van lines and waiting for delivery

AUTHOR: Monica B - ()

I decided to comment about this after I did my move with North van lines. I went online filled out an application and got 20 movers calling me. Out of the 20 movers North and one more, I won't mention, were the top 2 for me.  Before deciding on North and hiring them, I was actually encouraged by my rep to do online research for license, insurance and reputation on all the companies that I am interested in. I did not find one mover with a perfect reputation. 

Actually, there isn't any business in this country that has a perfect reputation online including my business, which is a nail salon. No one can make every one happy so why come down so hard on a mover even though this mover got the best reputation out of many. Before coming across this site, I had already received emails from North and I read every word on it. I have never used a mover before and honestly if it wasn't for North Van Lines I would not have seen this site. This person accusing this company of all this negative stuff, I have a few comments for you.

If in fact you are a customer, you must have received the same info I got from them. On there estimates they actually have all of the charges that may ever apply to some ones move and also the payment process. You spoke about how no other reputable company requires payments the way North does it. False: I have the proof in my mail box and all the movers that have contacted me have all requested a greater deposit of 20% and most requested the rest of the move to be paid at time of pick up. North van lines only asked me for 10% deposit, 70% at pick up, and final balance at delivery and in cash or postal money order only which makes sense to me. If I give them a c/c, they wont have a receipt for me to sign and checks take a few days to clear and from a business prospective it makes sense. 

Also, it was clear in writing that the balance has to be paid prior to unloading. For any one readying this, you can email me and I can send you exactly what north van lines sent me before I hired them excluding my personal information. Honestly, I hired them and so far everything has been great. They have been professional and I paid less then the estimate I got because my stuff took less room. I find this person here to be either a very angry customer that thought he can make changes to a company's policy and failed, a very sick person, or in fact a competitor of this company that is trying to bad mouth them since during my conversations with other companies some did talk bad about others. Reason why they didn't get my business and north did.  

Here is my email for everyone to contact me to see the actual move documents since the actual person complaining refuses to do it.

(((email redacted))) My name is Monica B**** and I am a happy customer of North van lines. 

 

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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Not before you go first.. Hope you like the heat!

AUTHOR: North Van Lines, Inc. - ()

LOL then stop responding you brainless, imprudent, asinine piece of trash. You think talking reckless about a company while hiding behind your screen is educated? No educated person sounds so hateful. Are you threatening our life now? You turned from angry to psycho. I am definitely including that last response in our documents going to court. I am sure the judge will love to see how insane you sound.  I thought we would get a call from your invisible lawyer. Did your invisible lawyer tell you to respond after your “CEAST and DISIST on a public site? Where did you find this guy, under the bridge? What happened to the legal actions you obsessed maniac? Guess what, we know where you work now and where you live too. LMAOO you are the biggest idiot with fingers and you truly use them for the wrong reasons. Try picking your nose instead of typing because any educated person accusing a company of what you are saying about us would have hired an attorney or at least took us to court. What are you so afraid of? I’ll tell you mama’s boy. You are afraid of looking more stupid then you sound. You are a coward that refuses to face us because you are very much so aware that you have no substantial evidence to support your made up lies. Are you confused, delusional, lonely, or just plain stupid? Stupidity is not a virtue and you have showed us that stupid has reached a new level. Definitely get more education. Really though, where is your attorney and the court documents? When will we have the pleasure to meet you in court?  

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#10 General Comment

CHRTHU..YOU NEED HELP GOD BLESS YOU

AUTHOR: Danna Rich - ()

Seriously, son I moved with this company and I can show you the papers. I actually had a few other members of my family move with them as well. These people have been great to us and didn't do any of what you said they do. Let bygons be bygons and leave it alone son. It's not worth anyones frustration. Life is short and not worthy of all of this. 

Matthew 6:14-15 

For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.  But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Tomorrow is another day son. 

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#11 Author of original report

GO TO H***

AUTHOR: Chrthu - ()

I am not going to converse any further with morons.  Unlike you guys, I am not an uneducated thief.  Again, I don't make money by scamming people.  Your life means nothing, and you should end it.  I see that you had no comment regarding the link I provided to those bad reviews on yelp.  What's wrong cat got your tongue?  You spend so much time flagging bad reviews when you should be somewhere cleaning houses since you all are such low-lives. What kind of reputable business goes back and forth with someone they claim to be a fake customer on a public forum?  The answer is a fradulent business run by incompetent rats.  I think it is time for you go walk off of a cliff.  Bye gutter trash.

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#12 REBUTTAL Owner of company

CHRTHU a.k.a Airhead b.k.a uneducated

AUTHOR: North Van Lines, Inc. - ()

LOL we have every right to respond to this review since it is a public review and not a personal email sent to you directly you idiot. We want you to take us to court. Lets do it. This is US responding and we are not afraid of anything you will do. We look forward to your attorney contacting us. That is what we have been requesting since your initial review you coward. Are you insane or are there many screws loose in that head of yours. You say you’re a professional, Righttttt…. I have never heard a professional sound so ignorant. Maybe you should get some more education and then say you’re educated because you sound far from what you claim your are.

This is a public review site available for all and anyone to respond and comment including and not limited to the actual company you are defaming online. You think you can say what ever you want without any consequences. We would love to go to court. We would love that call from your attorney. We would love to know who you are and we look forward to getting that information. I thought you said that people should go with companies affiliated with the BBB?! What happened that made you change your mind all of the sudden? Could it be the facts that we stated about the BBB? YES, we are not accredited with the BBB and still we have a great rating even though we didn’t pay them any money and Mr. Idiot, if we did pay them we would actually have an A+ rating.

You seem soooo angry. Gives us pleasure to know that a scam artist like you is so angry because we are not afraid of you or any action you may take.. “Mr. Professional” you should speak to your so called “attorney” and have him or her advise you before you look stupid online talking about Cease and desist on a public site.. I am not emailing you directly and we have proof we are not since we don’t know who you are. How are you going to contradict your own statement? Remember, you wouldn’t give us your information to take you to court so how are we emailing you, ignorant loser??? Please please please please we beg you to take us to court and have your attorney contact us.. We are ready for you. When that happens, we will be sure to sue the pants off of you and your computer too so you may never hide behind again. Coward, low life, loser, bully swears he is honest yet can’t provide proof. For as long as you respond, best believe you will find our response minutes later. You don’t want to get any more notifications that we responded to your lies then, I suggest you get a life and quite your online bullying! orrrr turn notifications OFF. 

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#13 Author of original report

Go Away Scamming Pigs

AUTHOR: Chrthu - ()

 Look you lowlife fools, I don't have time to go back and forth with you guys.  I am a highly paid professional with things to do.  I do not own a moving company and am not a competitor trying to slander you.  You have slandered yourself.  I have directed everyone who has a question about the credibility of my statments to yelp, where thare are SEVERAL other horrible reviews written about your slum company.  Why would dozens of other people say the same things if it were not true?  The consumers can check it our for themselves.  Here is the link: yelp.com/not_recommended_reviews/CTJJlhWhL5s1kjn2y-acYw   

 

I suggest you quit running your dirty mouths.  Those people are saying the exact same thing I have said.  Coincidence?  I think NOT.  Funny that you call me a loser when I am an educated hardworking American citizen who works hard to make an honest living and not scam other people because I am too lazy and stupid to make my own money.  I would be a loser if I sat back and not warn people about how you pigs rip people off.  Hell no I am not going to give you my personal information.  Call me what you may, but your company is full of trash and I am too good to get my hands dirty with trash like you. You are correct, the BBB is corrupt, which is why your company has a B- instead of an F for Failure, and Fraud!  Why is your company receiving BBB ratings when you are not accredited by them?  Why are you scared to get accredited?  The reviews from the link above clearly state, as I did, that you rebranded from Merit Van Lines, and that you carried over the same fraudulent prcatices.  As for why you are still in business, maybe because you are paying off crooked members of the FBI and state employees.  I repeat, do not send any more messages directed to me or about me. 

 

This is a formal request demanding for you and all agents affialited with your company, North Van Lines, to immediately CEASE AND DESIST from addressing me formally or informally, through ANY and ALL means of communication including but not limited to consumer rebuttals, all forms of social media, telephone, mail correspondence, etc. 

If you do not comply with this cease and desist demand effective immediately, I am entitled to use your failure to comply as evidence of “willful libel ” and seek monetary damages and equitable relief for your harassment and slander. In the event you fail to meet this demand, please be advised that I will pursue all available legal remedies, including seeking monetary damages, injunctive relief, and an order that you pay court costs and attorney’s fees. Your liability and exposure under such legal action could be considerable.

Before taking these steps, however, my attorney and I wish to give you one opportunity to discontinue your illegal conduct by complying with this demand within one (1) day.

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#14 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Find a different hobby Chrthu

AUTHOR: North Van Lines, Inc. - ()

Hello Mr. Cyber bully. The only coward here is you for not revealing who you are. If we have threatened you or harassed you then, why exactly did you not contact the authority?! Hmmm.. It is so easy to sit behind a screen and type a bunch of lies. Unfortunately for you, you are a coward, a thug, a bully, and worst of all a complete and utter loser that’s got nothing better to do then attack our company. You stated that we have not denied any of the accusations in your review although, we have and seems as though along with all the other characteristics you fall under, you also do not know how to read. You don’t want to reveal your self because you fear that we will post your documents online to show what was explained to you not only verbally but also in writing and you signed agreeing to it. You know by us posting those documents, viewers will see how much of a liar you are. You must think we are dumb. Also, you are advising people to go with moving companies registered with the BBB yet the BBB is one of the biggest scams out there that gave “Hammas” terrorists group an A+ rating. Sounds like your company, since we believe you are a competitor, has paid the fee to get that A+ rating and you want consumers to go for your type of business instead of other companies that don’t feel they should pay to get a rating and don’t find it fair for consumers. If you are going to give consumers advice, then I suggest you make sure its good advice, because you are clueless and a scam artist yourself. Now lets get to your statement of “don’t send me any messages”. We are not sending you messages you fool. We are responding to your review and if you don’t want to “waist time” (although it seems that you have nothing better to do) then stop the rebuttal and obsessing over our company. For as long as you are going to defame our company online with your lies then expect a response whether you like it or not. If we are such a bad company then, why are we still in business? Why do we get referrals from majority of our clients and call ins? I’ll tell you why, because you are delusional and a complete loser that is trying so hard to bring us down and you will never succeed. You don’t sound like a customer. If you are a customer then a real customers doesn’t have any issue saying who they are. Now you want to claim that we harassed you! If so, why haven’t you done something about the threats and harassment that you claimed you received from us? I’ll tell you why because you are a coward and a bully that hides behind a screen. We are already on to you and we will find out who you are and when we do best believe that a lawsuit will be filed against you and we will see you in court. Do you have proof you’re a customer? Lets see it! Better yet, why don’t you show that proof to some of the “consumers” that emailed you? You won’t and I know why. You are a liar, manipulator, a coward, and a loser. Get over it and move on. Stop obsessing over our company and if you have a problem with us then, stop being a coward and handle it properly in court like a REAL consumer would.  

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#15 Author of original report

Just accept responsibility for being con artists

AUTHOR: Chrthu - ()

I am not a cyber bully, I am just calling you guys out for being scamming idiots.  I have nothing to gain by spending time writing reviews about your scam of a company, I am actualy losing valuable time doing this; however, it is necessary to warn other consumers about your antics.  Very nice try to try and make me out to be a competitor, but you and I both know that is not what this is.  I am just a pissed off consumer warning others about you losers.  No, I will not reveal my identity to you animals for you to harass me and threaten me, as you have done before.  Just realize that people are on to your scam.  I have notified hundreds of people I know and left behind in the northeast, and have had two people e-mail me thanking me for the review, as they almost used your company.  You can threaten to find my IP address and whatever else you feel you need to do, but I as a consumer have the right to post a review of my experience with you sad pathetic creatures.  It's funny because you never denied the practices that I accused you of, and how you hi-jack customer's property until they pay you an absurd amount of money that was not originally agreed upon.  All of you will burn in hell.  Do not send me any further messages,  My review satands, I am not changing anything, and I am not going to go back and forth with you cowards.  If you don't want bad things written about you, you should either leave the moving business, or start doing good honest business, although I know your pathetic lives won't allow you to make an honest living.  So as long as you keep ripping off consumers, you will continue to receive such reviews, and lose potential business, as I have already reached several people to inform them of your scam of a moving company.  That is already at least $5k in scam dollars lost for you, and counting!

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#16 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Cyber Bully

AUTHOR: North Van Lines, Inc. - ()

Being a cyber bully is a sad thing. You don't want to mention who you are because you know we will be able to expose you for the lying bully you are. You are deceitful and a coward for hiding behind your computer. If you have such a problem with this company, how come we never heard about it? You keep referring to some other company that has nothing to do with us. Are you delusional? How about you tell us who you are and lets handle this properly instead of just being a lying cyber bully. Yes, we don't know who you are and we are sure we you are not a client of ours. You are some competitor that is trying to defame our business in order to have less competition. Announce who you are! We will post your documents and what you signed and let the readers be the judge. We have nothing to hide but you do. Are you afraid of getting hit with a lawsuit for your lies? Maybe you’re the owner of the company that used our name and impersonated our company in order to gain business and got shut down. Tell us who you are and lets look at your documents and what you agreed to by signing. If we really want to find out who you are, we can. IP address is such an easy thing to find. Once we do find out who your, be prepared because for every action there is a reaction. 

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#17 Author of original report

Are you kidding me?

AUTHOR: Chrthu - ()

 How can you say you are certain that I am not a customer of your's?  First off, why would I just blatantly lie on a business for no apparent reason?  I was definitely a customer of your's, but more like a victim.  I am not giving you my real name because you people have threatened me in the past and are not to be trusted.  I used your services to move to Atlanta and like I stated in my earlier review, I received an initial binding quote for $1200, and after my items were on the truck, your guys shoved a bill in my face for $2800, stating that I took up more cubic feet than originally estimated.  Your company refuses to send someone out to estimate in person, and everything is done over the phone.  The manager, MIMI, is extremely rude and threatens to auction off your belongings if you don't kiss her a**.  Your company requires a 10% down payment before the day of move, and 70% of payment before items are delevered.  I even had to send in a money order for the 70% because I complained about your shady business practices, you all did not want me to use a credit card so that I could not dispute it.  Mimi told me that the owner (Ali) did not trust me to use a credit card and that my only choice was a money order. 

After the delivery illegals came 4 days late, it was an outsourced individual that you guys used to deliver my items, in which he would not take anything off the truck until he had cash in hand.  He also charged me a convenience fee for not being able to park directly in front of the door.  Because I cursed him out and let him know what scum he was, he ordered his minions to dump all of my stuff off in the driveway, and they did not reassmeble any items.  This was the worst experience I have ever encountered.  You and your company are disgusting creatures that are lower than the dirt on my shoes, and you will rot in hell for this.  BTW, everyone knows that you are the former Merit Van Lines fromClifton , NJ.    Do not respond to me, I have no desire to converse with you, I just want everyone to know how stupid and shady you animals are.  Lower than swine!

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#18 REBUTTAL Owner of company

North Van Lines, Inc. Response

AUTHOR: North Van Lines, Inc. - ()

North Van Lines, Inc. appreciates all clients’ feedback regarding our services and encourages our clients to express their opinion to help better our company. However, we believe that this review is not from any of our clients for the following reasons. We do not have any clients that recently moved to or from Atlanta, GA. The name provided is fake. The information stated is inaccurate and has never happened. Our clients have full control over the price of the move and we do not render any services that may result in an additional cost without client’s authorization. We do not load then give the price. The price is determined prior to loading. We hardly have any damages and our claims department can prove that. We have always been North Van Lines, Inc. Only.  No mover is obligated to register with the BBB in order to PAY for a good rating. We have a great rating without registering. BBB gives A+ to any one willing to pay. Most importantly, we were not aware of this review until today, January 22, 2014, when we received an email from ripoffreport asking for $2000.00 in order to remove this review.

 

In conclusion, we would love to know who is this person and if in fact this is a customer, we would like the opportunity to change your opinion of us. Although, we are positive this is not a customer of North Van Lines, Inc., we would like to see this so called threatening email since we are positive no threatening emails were sent to this person after this review was posted since we only found out about it today. To the person that wrote this review, please do contact us or at least let us know who you are. We believe that is either a competitor trying to defame our name in order to gain business or some one from this site since review sites do have sponsors that write reviews in order to gain funds from removing those reviews. That is how free review sites make money. More information on that note can be found via online search. 

 

Thank you for your time. 

North Van Lines, Inc. 

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