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Complaint Review: OCDAC - Anaheim California

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  • OCDAC 2255 W. Ball Rd #2430 Anaheim, California USA

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Keep this in mind that filing this report against OCDAC does NOT mean I agreed with Adam P Valeius. Never has since he goes after the wrong person. So just be aware of that.

This report is going to be rather long and every detail will be writen. Every thing that is known into me, from what I heard, what I have seen on my own eyes, or been told by several creditable people, reliable sourses, and so forth. I do not hide anything nor do I lie about stuff. everything here is the hard truth. And this I will be reporting all the damage that OCDAC has done.

OCDAC used to have their headquarters in the #8 unit of 1001 French St in Santa Ana, CA 92701. On April they moved to a storage unit in Garden Grove. Where they asked me for help but boy did they disrespect me and Captain. They have a mailing address in Anahiem, as well as having Bobby, the Van, trailer, Ebay store, all moved to a remote land in Lancaster, CA with nothing around. OCDAC is a non-profit agency started by Richard Roehm, himself. Even while I was around I have seen Beth Koenig throw fits like a 3 year old, because she wouldn't get her way. She conned Richard over many things such as acting like a cry baby because she wanted a Google Phone from T-Moble and she wanted Richard to use the Agency's money to buy it. Richard did tell me all this. I told Beth to save money but she just acts like Richard owes her. Richard just kept his cool. Even when he has told her to be ready she hasn't been ready and we wait for her or he has to go get her. Shall I mention the times when she wanted turkey. and the bird was still frozen. or how about cooking late at night where of course I had to clean the kitchen, THREE TIMES that same night because she and Adam couldn't eat at a decent time. (3 am!)

Beth is so greedy over everything. One example is that Richard told me about the carpet back in 2006. After the OC fair the carpet would be given to me so I can put it on the living room. Beth argues that it belongs to the agency. But Richard got it his way. He can always get another carpet every year. The classroom at the old Irvine office was stuffed with way too much useless stuff. its like pack rat. and Richard was trying to cut back on all the stuff we had to move around. Another example lays on the fact when we had Cameron Bland here. She takes over Cameron's computer. and mess it all up by putting ubuntu OS into that when it was designed for Windows Vista. Cameron wanted his computer. and Beth simply refuses to get off. They would fight over the computer many times (That computer was the best computer in the house!) til she dumps his popcorn on his head and disconnect the computer where he keeps asking me to reconnect it. Yes I did try to ask Beth to get off his computer. People take stuff away from Cameron. Beth seems to act like everything is hers. and trys to take stuff away from me but I told her no. As someone once told me. Beth always wants stuff she doesnt need.

After Beth went to some classes to learn how to be Robert Martin's "Babysitter" as how Richard called it, They get an apartment that is like less than 15 minutes walk from the unit in French street. Richard would load up the van and trailer with all of Beth's things, Even cleaning out the room in #8 which is nothing but stuff. Beth never sleeps in that room. Talk about Snoopy who sleeps on top of his dog house, what's in the house is like a storage for his things. Beth stresses out that OCDAC will benifit with what she is doing. Then I would later join in the move to help Beth move to the new apartment. Richard turns to me and says that Beth saves alot of money this way. Beth looked upset what he told me. But that is true.

Then we got shipments sent to us. I was supposed to be the one going though it so i can fix stuff, match stuff together in one, such as the right power adapters, cords, recievers, chargers, batteries. so forth. Then Richie would take pictures of the good stuff and list it to sell. However. Beth digs in and has to fight over an item. And at times Beth is very pushy trying to tell me she wants me to "spam" people on emails and I refused to do so. and I don't like her being a control freak around me.

So on February 6 2013 Richard suffered a heart attack, and died. Ever since then OCDAC became breeding grounds for drama. Too much arguements. and the Leadership between Beth and Bobby Fleener sucks at best. Nothing gets done, just always behind in schedule. Then Beth brings along a guy with a criminal record to volunteer and hes the root of all the problems. We had a meeting after the death of Richard. Made changes to the staff. I became the board member, they then dropped Margie off the top spot, and even removed her contact information from their site. Then it seems like I am the one who always gets to voice out concerns and options. such as issues with the van, trailer. all the hard work I put into the agency my ideas. so forth. none of them looked at it and made it look as if I am power hungry but i am not. One example is that the van's suspention was very bad and needs replacing. If you overload the van it rides like a low rider. one bump could scrap the bottom. Bobby doesn't understand. he goes this far to say that the ball on the hitch is on upside down. but that is NOT the issue!

After the Death of Richard Roehm. things went to a twisted turn for the worse. So I will start with Beth Koenig.

She claims she is in the highest ranks of OCDAC. Yet has never done much for the agency. If you ask Rex Spencer he will tell you on his own. and he should have been high on the ranks not Beth.

I already mention how Beth is while Richard was alive. She thinks she his boss of everything. Like for example. On the trip we plan to go to CSUN. most of the stuff was already planned and paid for way ahead of time. So we all had to go but Beth wanted everyone to meet at the train station. Only she is the one showing up late. I realize that Rex has been to San Diego more than they have. But rather than listen to Rex she askes Robert Roehm. who follows his GPS like a PKE meter from the ghostbusters. Beth told me that Robert is to sell stuff in San Diego to get the money to get home. However he didnt. And she asked me. I should have gotten the credit for all this. Beth doesnt do anything but sit there complaining about her health and doesn't want to even try to do the simple things.

She thinks she has the right to tell us all what to do. So without word one morning she has to go into the hotel room where i was sleeping. Wake me up and tell me to just throw on clothes and lets go. Wouldn't even want to wait til I take a shower. as if it is all about her. I didn't follow her orders. Lucky Rex stayed with me and we made it on our own but we didn't stay with the group all the time cuz its like me being a lost puppy.

Then Rex and I found out the money i made at San Diego went to Beth feeding herself and Robert Martin. And she tells Rex and I to buy our own food but we were NEVER told that ahead of time causing Rex to be upset. We had NO money. talk about being ripped off.

Beth has a hard time thinking of reality. she doesn't listen to what we tell her. she assumes she is right all the time. just alot of ways to frustrate people. At the end of CSUN she ordered all of us to be at this spot yet she goes out and talks all the time to others and we waited hours and hours. Like we would have been home long time ago.

One day I come to take Ivan out. everyone was bugging me for the keys for the trailer where tables and chairs and other stuff was stored. The garage was open and stuff spewen all over the place. Beth want more tables and chairs. I said no everything is all ready according to Bobby. she makes a bad excuse about Bobby not understanding what she says. But its really her that doesnt understand. Turns out for the OC Fair she wanted to show off more stuff than usual. We should have had the trailer at the OC fair but we didn't. Keep in mind that at this point I just got up. taking my dog to go for a walk, I havent yet took my meds. So here I was being all confused and acting up.

One day we cleaned the garage and it was decided that both #4 and #8 units get the soda which Richard has sbeen storing for some time. the expire dates on the cans getting close to when it would not be wise to sell, or it was already way past the date where the soda was flat. So we each had some soda. Now. Beth does NOT live in the #4 unit. she doesnt have comon sense either to ask. Anyway as far as the soda goes. Rex and I finished drinking all that soda long before I had my own soda. and I caught Beth red handed stealing few cans of soda from me and i told her to replace it. All she does is argue and looking on.

She is also the one using up all the toilet paper. even when Richard was alive. they tryed to force me to buy the toilet paper thinking i am the one playing with it. And was evenually threaten higher rent just so they can cover up the toilet paper. Everytime I get a large supply of toilet paper (48 rolls of Scotts = 96 rolls total!) it goes away in a week and half. and told Beth to get her own toilet paper. she has to lie that she has bought the toilet paper but i dont see it anywhere. So I bought my own rolls and kept it in my room and only I use them. Later on Richard told me that he sees the light and that everyone has to get their own toilet paper.

Beth also loves to spam people on emails. evenually I had to tell her to stop sending me requests or to join a thousand web sites. I am happy with Facebook. I will not sign up for any other accts. If she make accts for me and I don't approve I am going to be upset.

Beth thinks she knows the answer to everything. When i came over to her in April 2014 because of a credit card issues i was having as well as a girl who ripped my heart out. she has kept on telling me she can help me. But why be so nosey? she wants to see my credit report and credit scores. I don't think that it is important to pry yourself into people's personal business like that. And when I told her I have an appt with a credit debt consolor. All I need is copies of the statements and since I go paperless. But it seems to be more than I needed. its about her getting access to my life the wrong way.

She then wrote my card numbers and other info on a piece of paper from a post it notes. telling me she will call them and ask about cash back and other stuff like that. I told her NOT to share the info to anyone but to keep it to herself. Before i left i saw her peel it off and put somewhere else.

This proves she does not listen. because before i knew it. she tells me John Patrick Rogers and her went though it all. he made the calls. and rather than WAIT for me to get done with the debt consclor. they went ahead and set up a few balance transfers to help with my bigger card. This surely screwed everything up And I was so upset with Beth for not listening to me in the first place. I felt powerless at that point after they got me 3 cards I told them that is enough. she said she wants to keep get more. I said No more! Plus I do not know John so why did he do this? I wasn't ok with all they did and as of today I am stuck with the extra bills.

Whats more. Beth wanted me to bring the cards over so she can do the work. No. I took care of it myself only to have John call them and mess it all up even worse.

Worse thing is that they never informed me about the bills will go up after the time table expires. they waited a month or two to blab about it. not telling me before they get me the cards. And John was the mastermind of closing all my accts.

I heard that Richard had request that Beth pay rent. but she rather not and overstays her welcome here. She spends most of her money buying stuff for a deafblind kid that isn't her business. She seems to think we will cover for her. she wants food when she wants it and not cook for herself.

One day when i spend 40 hours fixing up the garage. Beth has to come in my room to wake me up asking for fuel pump. There was no such thing as fuel pump in the garage. However she refused to listen except to tell me to help find it. I had to order her and John out of the garage and lock it up with my own pad lock. Turns out that Beth asked Bobby to put the fuel pump in his closet. and he was not home that time!

Even right after Richard passed away. Nita who now controls the units. had ordered us to clean off the #4 bedroom to fix it up for a renter. Beth refused to do so. at first trys to say that this is her room and she has 2 places she can be in. And that had to change. tells me she wants to keep everything that is Richard's. the more she delayed the move stuff out the room the more harder things got. then she decides to keep everything in the garage which takes up so much space.

Now, lets be real here. As far as Beth having drivers license, Beth does have a hard time seeing at night, and at times would have trouble seeing even at day time. Someone wants to sue her for acting like she is blind all this time, while Richard is alive. Beth explains that when she is driving or playing video games she sees fine but her vision goes down when she is doing something else. She used to carry a white cane with her all the time until John hide it from her. I dont think she has any business getting drivers license. So I never felt safe in a vehicle with her or John.

Beth has this asthma that goes out of control. Every time we go out on an event. when it is outdoor event such as having a booth at the OC Fair. or just roaming around the fair grounds. She seems to get asthma attack ever so often that it seems like we get unwanted attention from the EMT's or fire dept when all this could have been pervented in the first place, Have Beth stayed home or not spend the whole time at the events we wouldnt have that problem. Its like Beth being an attention seeking kind of person or just want to add stress to all of us. She doesnt seem to carry her bag around that has the breathing machine. Now you cannot tell smokers to move somewhere else or put their smokes away in public places. Like at OC fair the OCDAC's booth is outside next to a smoking tent or a bar that people can smoke at. Of course Beth wears a mask to filter the smoke. but it doesnt filter everything. And even no one can understand her allen language when she trys to speak while wearing it. John as he claims to be the one who protects her from the smokers. They all claim that sitting inside a van is safe. I beg to differ. No matter how new the vehicle is, when the engine is on or just parking there. the surroundings gets into the engine and then into the vehicle via the vents. So I dont think they even realize what they are doing. Beth even tryed to make a portable pump out of a bike tire foot pump. but seriously I dont think it really works. Because it is not strong enough. the battery operated ones are not strong enough either. So that said. Beth should step down due ot her health issues. But since she is not. she is risking her life being out there.

at Tillerdays all she wanted to do was lay on a bed behind the booth. Not doing much. She opens a can and drinks it and leaves the can laying around. that is not professional.

Speaking of professional, with OCDAC she should shower. do her hair. change her clothes. bruth her teeth. She doesnt do all that. When she comes to stay a few days and nights with Richard, she carrys a backpack thats about as heavy as an military 3 day gear. She claims she carrys her meds in there. but no. thats not it. she carrys alot of electronics. She has a bad back. but still insist on carry all that. I never wanted to have anything to do with that bag. Richard got her smaller bag to carry less but she still overloads them.

I once called Beth, "Lie, cheat and steal" Which i do believe is correct.

As far as Bobby Fleener goes. He thinks about himself and only him. not the people around him. Its becoming a problem when he can smoke anywhere he pleases. even if he has to help me get to places. i typically follow people so what do you think i get? yeah breathing in his smelly smoke. It is so simple is he would have just wait til he is done helping me before he has to light up and puff away. He wont listen to me on things and thinks he get it all.

Even when he goes to church for dinner every Sunday, he has to be so pushy on the line. At first he would have one plate. then he would go stand in front of the line to get food home. He was told by some church staff to stand in the back of the line and he gets so mad. and refuses to talk to them again. Sometimes he pushes me to bring him some ground coffee. But if he want coffee he would have to come get it himself. Even when I am waiting to bring more food home he only wants to go home right away. telling me this is the last bus. but he has lied about that last bus. He had plenty of time. Even trys to tell me to forget about the extra food and just go home. I told him to have some patience.

Bobby has been going rent free for many years. Starting off as living in #4 until Richard got the 8 unit in 2008. (I was told he got kicked out of his former apartment, but the reason wasn't explained to me to why he was kicked out.) So at that point Richard had to take him in like it was an emergency. From that time he has been working at Knotts Berry Farm and was fired for some reason but he says he was layed off. Then he would live on his unemployment until it ran out. Then he pretty much asked for free rent causing Richard to make major cuts. Richard told me that People are ripping him off. these who asked for free rent.

Bobby has poor taste of judgments. I dont know what's going on between Beth and him when Beth crys he doesnt listen. or its him that doesnt listen. Or it's Beth that doesnt listen. Both seem to point fingers at each other as well as blame each other. The road goes both ways.

Richard told me that Bobby was kicked out of his old apartment and got fired from his job. Bobby has to Work for OCDAC in order to get a place to sleep. Sometimes Bobby was caught playing computer games when he should have been working.

After Richard passed away Bobby assumes responsibility for running the group homes. while he is the vice president of OCDAC, as well as acting at manager for the 2 units in French Street. Bobby misleads people all the time, or its him not understanding what he really is doing. I heard he as well as Beth harassed the landlady on alot of things for some time. He wouldn't listen to my advice or take heart of what I have to say or do. Since I have the responsibility of being a handyman ahd fix and help things around. Some of this was too much. shows they are so lazy and not taking care of the stuff after their food fundraiser. Pointing the finger on me that I did all of this for years.

By far, Bobby does a shoddy job as a manager for #4 and #8. things fell apart. i even threaten him if he changed the padlock on the garage #5, I will cut it off. Few times he changed the locks without even telling me. I got so upset I made him change it back and told him to stop playing games with the garage. There was stuff that was SUPPOSED to be in #8 garage. but his way just makes no sense..

While he does thank me for everything I did. Beth being the greedy one does not. Richard used to buy me beer. lunch, take me out to dinner, give me tools. or other stuff. Beth doesn't do anything other than cry that she has no money. But thats not the issue.

When I told Bobby to tell Beth and John to stop digging in my credit cards and close them. he refused to listen to me. and tells me that if I keep this up he will write it as harassment. So how am I going to protect my accounts and myself because he wouldn't open his eyes wider and look at the situation closer.

When there was a problem between Beth and John and I. Bobby decides to oplay judge and wants to make money for this on his time. He still doesn't get the facts straight. For example. He would tell me on a joint email where Beth would read it that While I use the relay to call the creditors. and John uses his voice. Bobby thinks the creditors closed my cards because of the relay. Even Beth was that stupid to blame the relay for this. No, it is NOT the relay. When I call my creditors about the card being closed. the Creditors tell me I called and closed it. When in fact I did not. So. That's the main problem. John can use all the info against anyone anytime he wants to. There he uses all the info that Beth shared him. This proves that Bobby will not understand what he really is doing.

Back in December of last 2014. Beth finds a crappy copy machine and had it delievered here. I have my new guide dog Captain in my room. enjoying a quiet evening. when all the sudden Bobby comes in #4 (even though he is playing "manager" he thinks he can enter the #4 unit anytime he feels like it. this is wrong!) slams the front door. peeks in my room and yells at me. this sudden minute Captain barks, and jumps up at him. I have no proof that Captain bit Bobby. but Bobby never said so. He wanted me to go outside. When i got out there it was a huge copy machine on a pickup truck and the truck is high. Before we do anything Bobby me his arm and tells me Captain bit him. I told him. that it is not my problem, it is not Captain's problem. its his own fault for running in #4, ran into my room and bark orders at me like that. (Any dog, reguardless what it is trained for. always will protect it's master. If people are yelling at me, Captain will bark because he feels that I am being threaten by them) Bobby has to learn to stop doing that. It looks like, rather than tell me directly, He told Beth and John about it first. It is NOT their business! Well the copy machine was no easy task to remove, it was HUGE and HEAVY! They want to call Rex I told them not to bother him. We got someone else to help. but i lost my balance and fell. copier was on my foot. Thank god for steel toe boots. but my hands were bloody.

Right after that part where Bobby claimed that Captain bet him, Beth and John were hating me and Captain. They all told me I should get a younger dog. Captain in fact was younger than Ivan. Anyway. its my choice. not theirs. Even John told me that he and Beth were going to animal shelters to look for a Husky puppy for me. I already had a new dog one month after Ivan was put to sleep. He goes this far to say that they would get me the dog so that i can change my mind on all the bad things they did against me.

There was a time when Beth ordered John to come on over to drop off checks. Bobby was NOT home. What did John do? He went to bother me . Sure I realized he was dropping off the checks. But. I told him several times to BACK away from the door so I can open it. He has his pitbull in tow and Captain was near the door. After several attemps to tell him to back away from the door failed. he shoved the checks under the door and left. Does he have some kind of hearing issue?

As a board memeber of OCDAC I had the right to look in their finances. Here i KNEW Beth was USING the agency's money for her personal gain. Beth was going to let me see everything. but Bobby who wants to hide it under the rug put a stop to it. so I knew i was right. Bobby used to sell Octfest tickets. but keeps telling me that it is between Beth and him. I do know he used the money to buy smokes. He might use the agency's money on smokes as well. He told me several times that he gets his income from running a sign language class. he pockets all the money. figures how he gets food even though he doesnt get ssi or any other income and free rent.

Nita the landlady mention to me that Bobby has pocketed all the money he gets from running classes. Beth trys to fill in a different story. Bobby gets a free cell phone with the monthly payments paid by Beth or so they call it "OCDAC's phone" Bobby has said that he has a penston and is not allowed to touch it. Ok I guess he can't touch it. So, how else do you think he gets the money to keep on smoking and bus passes?

Bobby wants to be in charge is everything. he is the only one that carrys tons of keys like he is an owner of alot of things which he is not. Even though Bobby has been upset with Beth many times and he even threaten to "retire" from OCDAC. Yet he is still around. I think it is because he has no income, cannot work in California due to a felony charge from Texas (Thank you John. you shouldnt have said that in first place)

Bobby Fleener also does NOT have drivers license. He only told me that the dr said no for him to drive. Some kind of medical issue. Well. Tillerdays 2014 I knew he was driving the van around. First we had to get ask a neighbor to drive the van with the trailer over. then I heard that Bobby couldnt find a ride of a volunteer. so, he drove himself home. When I got up early that morning to take Ivan out, I see the van is parked on French street. Later in the day its Gone. On Sunday, the last day of the Tillerdays. I was there til closing. Help load up the van. and guess what? Bobby drove the van home. But he is careless with the trailer. the van is so low. it scrapped the road on bumps.

Someone even asked me to move the van. but I told them i am deafblind. so i got Bobby and they asked him to move the van. All he did was talk and try to make poor excuses. I told him to just move the van out of the way. I later learn they were banned from the Cypress because John, Beth and Bobby held traffic. The CEO of the Cypress event and staff told John to move. but they refused orders. Try to tell Bobby to move. he refused. He was trying to load the trailer. Well, they closed the door and he's all mad. He threaten the staff harm and she was scared. Bobby claim that his ribs cracked and he will file lawsuits. Please. His ribs were already cracked. even when we did work to fix up the house. Yes John forward me all the emails. There you go.

John Patrick Rogers is the troublemaker of the group. While he is not the board member from what I do know. he was bought on by Beth. He was credited to teach Beth how to drive and that she is not blind. while she lived her life as a blind woman and made all of us think she is blind. But in fact Beth can see alot better than me. More on that later...

John has a big mouth. He spews my personal info on Facebook. has to friend every one of my friends on facebook. He made a fake facebook account calling himself Michelle Green. He starts big trouble. a motormouth. Puts words in people's mouth. May I say more?

John has start fights with me. and he makes it look like I am the bad one. His criminal record here on google.com shoes who he really is. He has problems with Gables in Huntington Beach. and he used his autism as a get out of jail free card.. Yup. I read everything online about him. He sure is the real trouble maker. I can live there with no problems. Because I respect people. they can be who they are. but John wants to think he is a saint.

He is the mastermind of ruining my credit. Pertending to be me. I had to fight with the creditors for months to show it was not me that did these calls. Because each creditor would tell me that I called and request changes, which, again, was not me. And I use the relay to make calls. So it was never me. it was John the whole time. He evenually told a good friend of mine that he did close my accounts. Beth tells me he goes in a day program. but seriously I doubt he goes to any program because people cant help him. he refuses help.

John has created a fake facebook account calling is Michelle Green from Maryland or somewhere in Boston, Mass. His way to do this is to trick me to think he is someone else I can talk to, just to get some info and he uses it against me. John has been known to put his hands on Beth's devices. such as tablet or ipad, phones. and so forth. and he logs on her email and texts, and on facebook to make it all look as if it is all from Beth so I cannot trust Beth's emails or text messages. Beth has claimed to have over 9 devices laying around.

I even told Beth and Bobby to go though John's phone and delete everything he shouldn't have, such as my personal info. But they won't do so. I had a feeling John has my ssn in his phone as well as other info. because not only did he made me 3 balance transfer cards. he also tryed to get more when I told them no more. and then i got a letter saying that I signed up for a credit card that I did not sign up for. Is he trying to steal my ID?

When Target was closed because John closed it. everyone thinks I did it. when i never do stuff like this. I had to tell him to stop. before that. he tryed to call me the bad guy because of one time he was supposed to take me to his and Beth's storage but something went wrong. rather than the plans. he was screaming at the phone and he couldnt even drive. when i had enough of this i simply told him to put the phone down and drive but he refused. he says i threaten him to drive faster. the dude is going twenty miles slower than normal. and it is illegal to talk and drive. he even ditched me at an unfamular place and I had to find a way to get home and that wasnt easy.

John is so fuzzy about service dogs. I had Ivan with me in John's van he claims it is his rental van but honestly its littered with junk. no sight of Ivan shedding. He's trying to make it look like it is my problem. Ivan had some bad health issues unaware to me. but how John mistreated him wasn't right. One time Ivan gave him a kiss and he just beat Ivan's head for no reason. I had to get on his face. a heated arguement went back and forth. he slapped me in the face so I held my arm up in case he hit me again. I do not like volience. and I stood up to Ivan. My dog was really sick. what made no sense was before this while thing happened. he let Ivan lick his face. now they tell me someone almost killed John with a knife and he has limited use of his right hand. I think he is just trying to say things that didnt happen because i seen him use his right hand many times.

I had to move out of the #4 unit because the landlady had enough of Beth and Bobby's childish games. So first she wanted to get rid of OCDAC. it appears that she wanted to raise the rent for OCDAC. Beth John and Bobby told me not to pay rent. I told them I dont care what they say I will pay rent anyway. They set up a meeting and even forced me to skip my food bank run that day and the landlady didnt show up. Next thing I knew the landlady came over asking for rent money and I said I always give to Bobby. Bobby wasn't home. So Beth and Bobby were playing games and the landlady was upset. after than hand the rent to her, she found one tenate was $70 short. Bobby didn't count the money as it was hand to him. he should have. Rex says it was all there. So it automacally says Bobby stole the money. He evenually lost his job as manager. But he still lived here for free. Bobby tells me countless times that he doesnt want to see Nita. and used me as a watch dog. Jeez.

May 10 was the deadline for Bobby and Kirsten to move out. But Bobby decide to fight with landlady telling her she did the illegal way. Then On June 17 he was issued another warning to move out. which he refuses to do. he was even stupid enough to change the door knob for the #8 unit says his lawyer told him to do it and he doesnt have a lawyer. Kirsten moved out but Bobby still refuse pay rent or move out. Bobby says Nita can't force us out without a court order. the more lawsuits he wants to file against Nita the landlady. the more I see he change my statements. the more i told him he is on his own. He told me to stay and he and Beth will help me file some paperwork to stay here longer. But I wasn't going to find myself in this jam. Bobby tryed to file lawsuits on my behalf and have Nita pay me alot of money. I know he is going to loose and I told him he is on his own for good. He says that I lost $35,000. and he even was trying to check into law if he can sue Nita for over time because of the work we did and someone else did the job. I got fed up with his games.

I moved out on June 17 and he kept telling me that the landlady never will learn. the story that Richard's sister told John (using Michelle Green) was that the family intends to sell the condos and buy one condo for her other son to live in. Beth Bobby and John keep tell me that Nita will loose alot money and she can't do this. But Nita can. The will was that the condo #4, which was paid off. would be left for Robert his younger brother. Robert didn't want the responsibility as a landlord so he transfered the ownership to his mom. Bobby want to see the paperwork but he was denied access. Its not his business anyway. Bobby and Beth thinks Nita is stealing from Robert and trys to file lawsuit on his behalf. thats when I told them the story what Nita's daughter had told me later. I beleive their side is a more crystal clear. I was told that Beth tryed to make fake wills and having her name on it so she can keep the units to herself. but these were distoried. the real will is still with the family and with the court system.

John using the alas as Michelle Green told me that Bobby has a criminal record. a felony, which is why he cant work in the state of California. due to something he did in Texas. Bobby trys to hide that under the rug but i told him John has already spilled the beans He tells me he had a DUI in Costa Mesta. but having a DUI I dont think it is a felony charge. so it has to be something serious. Bobby may have some fields of experence. but from what I see he does a shoddy job. such as his trucking business. he couldn't load a trailer the right way. carpenter. he didnt finish the job of scrapping paint to repaint the bathroom. rather he just covers it all up and tells me Nita wanted trashy looks. but its him. he claimed he has a cracked rib. I dont know anything about his ranching job but pretty sure it is not as good as he says it is.

Beth and John push me over and over to move to their ranch they want it named Richard Roehm Memorial Ranch. I on the other hand do not support this ranch. because I rather stay in OC. and they dont have the permits and so forth to build stuff on a ranch. Bobby cannot drive but he did drive around. this is not good.

Back in June i told them bluntly that I do not want anything to do with OCDAC ever. I told them to distory the large picture of me and never use it. their media release forms as well as other forms they insist we sign. or the so called whistleblower papers are no good. and I told them to get rid of everything of me. even these with my personal info on it. I like to see the proof they did, or should hand it all to me. Do you think they would make copies of it and use it against me? They simply won't do so. Bobby asked me for the keys back i dont have the keys anymore. i gave them to the landlady including the wooden door key that Bobby otherwise told me to keep it to myself. some of the stuff he cryed for went to goodwill or trash. he threw some stuff out anyway.

Bobby has misunderstood many things. For one the fridge in #8 is NOT OCDAC's fridge. the thing is. It belong to the condo. the Power company gave that fridge to Richard and took the old fridge away. Bobby also said he want to keep the door knobs. I did tell the landlady and her daughter this right away. They think he is crazy. No one should be changing the door knob. But Bobby did so to try to keep the landlady out of the unit. He even told me he called the police on her. But its not the full story. The reality is that there was 3 calls placed against Bobby.

As far as things go. After months of not being around them. I haven't seen them around but I still get emails from them. They were begging for a free RV or camper trailer for Bobby to live in. One email explain that Beth got a land in Lancaster. its all desert. Bobby wanted a forest like land. There are rattle snakes in the Mojave Desert. Bobby says that if the rattler bites him and he dies. it isn't his problem, but more it is Beth's problem. Then he talks about people in Craigslist keep flagging his Craigslist post and it got deleted. They evenually got a free RV but the tow truck driver couldnt deleiver it. So He explains that they dumped that idea. blaming the tow truck driver for being lousey. On later emails it shows that they do have a RV.

As I read on the site. the RV leaks when it rains. Bobby thinks he can fix it. after some work. It did leak again. He goes up there to try to slow it down. I just laugh at this. The roof may need to be weld or something. They also struggle with the solar panel and try to charge up his phone and laptops.

I accidently came accross his youtube video showing him having a small bonfire in the middle of nowhere. As he pans around. there is a view of the van in sight as well as the trailer. Then there is a fire. Isn't it illegal to have a fire in California, no matter where you are? Also if Bobby wants to build something he needs permit and pay for the fees before he can build anything.

Now Bobby says that the Ebay store is moved to the land in Lancaster. How does he get to the post office with the items? there is nothing in site in the land. Oh yeah. he is an unlicensed driver. So I guess he does drive to the nearest post office he can get to drop stuff off.

Bobby and Beth also have websites up asking for domations and even money. or gas. I doubt anyone wants to spend money on them. They will have to spend money themself. Use the ebay money for that. don't pocket it all and pertend you dont have money!

Most recently, someone contacted me about OCDAC. I said that I am not part of them anymore. They told me that I am a board member and my name is on the site. I said can't be because I told them to remove me since June. I then asked them to send me a link. So Yup my name is on it. See below.

http://www.deafadvocacy.org/contact-us

Please note that Karen Goldsmith was not in that last meeting that I went to. And I felt it was wrong to vote someone to join the board without them say they want or don't want to be invoved. Robert Roehm has told them several times that he quit the board and no longer wants part of it. They never removed him off the site. they wanted him to stay. Margie Garetz used to be a board member. but they decide to degrade her. remove her contact profile. and then from all the emails Bobby has been disrespecting Margie. Margie has worked with Richard and knew Richard longer than Beth.

On all the problems I had with Beth and John. John trys to tell people that Beth and himself are trained to look out for the best interests for me and take control of my life. Making a huge fuzz about Sheren Messenger whom ripped me off. But I can take care of that myself. And if they are trained to look out for the best of interest for others. then why dont they start with Bobby and tell him to stop smoking? He says they can't do anything about Bobby's Smoking. I then said that they cannot do anything about me either. I did ask for their creditals to prove they are trained. but none exist.

This statement stands corrected on my point of views. Nothing will change what i say about them.

I know that I have said some things many times or repeated some statements here. It is due to the fact this statement took me several days to write. I do come back to proof read at times and try to correct my spelling. I am no way perfect. Either way. every detail has been writen. and everything has been said about them. That is all that really matters to me. I am saving a copy of this in my records. This is on the 3rd year that Richard Passed away and I felt that the world needs to be aware of OCDAC.

I also want to put this out here. If Beth, Bobby and John see me at the OC Fair, Pet Expo, or any other events I happen to be there. I have one request for them. Pleast do NOT try to shake my hand and make talk with me. Do NOT try to pet my guide dog. Do NOT talk to my friends or people I am with. I want you all to leave me alone. you have done enough damage to my life and its time you all have to learn. If I catch you hanging up my picture I can remove it. You were told this back in June 22. I am not your asset. And I want you to keep John away form the people I am with. not to open his mouth like he did with Karen last year. This ends back in June . No more. You failed me.

Thats all for now.

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OCDAC Beth Koenig email spam. Anaheim California

AUTHOR: Sharky - (United States)

POSTED: Friday, January 26, 2018

Can someone PLEASE tell Beth Koenig to STOP emailing me asking for money on her gofundme page? I have gotten 2 or three emails so far and telling her to stop emailing me goes no where. She doesn't seem to respect people. these that has told her not to spam them with emails.

She still uses my pictures. even with Ivan. Its time she needs tu update her policies and to drop the people that no longer wish to hear from her. I have tryed so hard to get my info off, but that never works. They just sit here and say they own this or that is part of the agency. I want to see proof that all my personal info, even SSN is all distoried and long gone.

They have no idea how stressful they caused me. Nothing changes. and I knew things ran better with Richard Roehm. But Richard is in heaven so OCDAC should go as well.

I just want my name and everything cleared off their system and move on. I guess they are still using my images just so they can get some money which doesnt work.

They may tell other people that the Landlady just shut them out of French St. But I know the real truth.

 

I dont deal with frauds or liars or users.

 

 

Thats all I have to say.

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POSTED: Sunday, May 01, 2016

Sorry Adam. your name was writen on your first report.  You didnt have to co-write it.  But I put it there so that people know where I stand from.  I am glad you agreed with me on how OCDAC treats people.  If you actually did read the whole statement. which by the way took me many days to write.

Yeah I have cut my ties with OCDAC with wire snippers or in other hand. I cut my ties with a large padlock cutter.  Will not help them out anymore.  Even if they changed.

Never said that Rex should have more power with OCDAC  But I am just stating it.  Imange you do all the work such as go places to ask for domations, be very resourceful and try to help, even used his own money to buy food either for the fundraising or snacks for CSUN trips.  Minus Beth who does nothing and Richard and Bobby did 99.8% of everything.  I think its like you get a job as a newbie. you work your way up to supervisor.

Of course with Rex's legal status Beth was pretty picky about him.  on other hand she asked Rex to come to the OC Fair to pick up stuff and Richard is upset. because he is not supposed to be at the fair.  this happened in 2006. and someone told me that Some law enforcment offical was looking for Rex.  While Beth loves to lie. I wouldnt lie at all.  If Rex is here and I know where he is I would point him to where he is.

Of course Rex is not part of OCDAC. hes tired of how they treated him.  But his lack of understanding the whole thing that really happened. such as he stopped working for OCDAC. and his desk just was sitting in the office once we moved it from the storage to #8 at French street.  Rex would say that Bobby stole his money, and desk and job title.  the real truth is that He didnt work for OCDAC anymore and Richard told him to clean off that desk and make room for Bobby.

No Bobby didnt get paid for doing his work at OCDAC.  as a matter of fact. since he ran out of his unempoyment income. he was living for free doing ocdac work.  Sometimes he abuses the work time by playing farmville and other games on his laptop.

Its not the people that run OCDAC that is bad.  Beth is one of the con artists like John and Bobby is.  I wouldnt let Beth back in my life from what she did.  and I dont like John at all.  If he indeed is a sex offender like Rex used to.  Then why are they having criminals working for them?  This here doesnt make one sense.

As far as the OCDAC's budget. as a board member I was told in meeting about all the funds they have.  seems alot to me. but they want to just throw all that money in a fund they want to build a ranch with which by the way is NOT going to work.  So I dont know where they are coming from.  I have suggest they take a long look at everything and use that much needed money to fix it or replace it.  But we all looked like we got our stuff from a junk yard.  I am not kidding.

Every other Nonprofit agency around, have much better vehicles, and trailers.  Beth says they get funding. and they charge to do stuff while OCDAC doesnt.  I think she is just making this all up.  One of the non profit agencys at Tustin Tillerdays had a nice trailer with a door that acts like a ramp. and they all have better vehicles. such as a retired ambulance.  The People on other booths get alone well and OCDAC is full of issues.

And to prove that Beth is a con artist and a bad apple like John and Bobby.  Wait til you hear from Nita.  it took her 2 years to see everything was wrong.

So I think the OCDAC's budget is much lower than what Adam had put on.  But Richard had it kept like $20 thousand a year.  However.  Beth and John seem to do more shopping sprees. including Beth buying a $400 blender from the oc fair and I had the right to see the finances but since Bobby wouldnt let me, I still stand corrected.  So They sell old and outdated stuff. that no one uses today such as an old tty.  Many people do vps now but I dont like TTYs I perfer relay.

Beth bought and paid for Bobby's cell phone.  then later they cut off the internet even though I told them i rely on it all the time.  Well a friend bought me a tablet so I can stay online.  Then Bobby spits rummors that I had money.  I never lie. but then I stopped telling him stuff because he changes my statements and screws it all up.

I wouldnt get near OCDAC. I saw their booth at Pet Expo on April 21. but I walked away from it fast.  they seem busy trying to brain wash people. and they didnt even try to waste my time by talking to my friend like they did a year ago.  I dont know if John followed me around a bit. if it was him I would confront him and tell him to get away from me.

Here is a catch that we all know.  OCDAC lacks the training and experence to deal with everyone.  Take Cameron Bland for example.  The dude has mental issues.  He gets in deep trouble.  he picks fights.  He makes Richard feel uneasy. I simply dont want to deal with a troubled adult that acts like a 3 year old.  Sometimes Rex. Bobby and Richard had to restrain him.  Beth in no way can deal with Cameron. although she wanted to keep him around for some silly reason. as if she thinks she can help everyone.  Sometimes Cameron gets so volient that Richard had to use pepper spray on him.  I told Richard to get rid of him because we cant deal with this every day.  He did at one point but then people call Beth every day and then Beth made him take Cameron back.  Things never changed.  his meds are not working.  and its just stressed out.

Now. John as Michelle Green would tell me that OCDAC is looking out of the best of my interests.  such as getting rid of that girl that used me.  I can deal with that on my own.  And if they indeed  are trained to look out for the best of my interest. such as puppet me around and telling me what to do and ect.  Then where is your creditals?  None.  Then start with Bobby and make him quit smoking.  They told me they cant do anything with Bobby smoking. I said then you cant do anything period.

Never trust Beth.  I know many people complained about OCDAC. their license to run the agency should be taken away and put in a shredder.  City. State and Federal.  If they cant keep funding and mess things up too much.  I sure hope they seize the trailer and take it away.

And that. all my hard work was all washed up for nothing.  Beth owe me alot for all the work.  And I lost respect for Bobby for his lies.

Funny they talked about the ranch. Bobby who never pays rent wants the best of everything.  Which is not fair for us all.  Bobby talked about people who go in the ranch need ot have a background check.  if this is what he wants. this means he cant be in it. nor can John.  Cameron is out and pretty sure  there are others.  Michelle Green would assume OCDAC takes people in who the other agencies refuse to help.  sounds famular to me.

Now to put it blunty.  Adam used to think he has the same illness as Beth. then John would say he and Beth have the same thing.  Meaning that Beth faked her blindness the whole time. and he taught her how to drive.  stating that even though Beth's grandpa did try to teach her how to drive but Beth failed it. was due to the fact that because John has autism like Beth. he understands it better.  But I think its just like telling crazy things.  Like a black student perfers a black teacher. but every one teaches the same way.  I dont believe in what John says.

Is that clear now?

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Empathy for Victims of OCDAC

AUTHOR: Adam - (USA)

POSTED: Saturday, April 30, 2016

While I do not appreciate my name being written on a report I did not co-write, I can certainly empathize with nearly everything Sharky had to say in this report. I often review OCDAC's crowdfunding pages to see if they are getting the MILLIONS of dollars in donations they've been begging for since their founder's death. So far the amounts published are well under six figures. Even their profile with OC Nonprofit Central says their budget is only $20,000. If there is a significant inaccuracy in any of these numbers because they don't want to reveal their true financial situation, they can get into legal trouble and deserve to.

When I first met Beth, she was a very good friend. But as the years went by, she treated me more and more like the way Sharky describes being treated in this report. That's why I wrote RoR #580514 years ago - to inform the world that OCDAC is a CONTROVERSIAL nonprofit whose UNethical practices HARM the lives of the very people they want & claim to help. Beth treats EVERYONE the way Sharky describes in this report! So do Bobby & the others! On the day I abandoned Beth once & for all, I told her that she & all who partake in operating OCDAC need to give the F*** up! So far they are still persisting.

I disagree with Sharky saying that Rex should have been given more power in the operation of OCDAC. Rex is a REGISTERED SEXUAL OFFENDER! So is John Patrick Rogers. On April the 4th, 2016 I saw Beth at the City of Orange Public Library & History Center. I did not approach her. Approximately two weeks prior, my mother had informed me that she was still receiving LinkedIn Connect Requests from Beth. I hope that has stopped, because as long as Beth is someone I do not want to associate with, my mother also does not want to associate with her. Should Beth finally come to her senses and CUT TIES with ALL of these ABUSIVE men she associates with, perhaps I'll let her back into my life.

I strongly encourage anyone & everyone who agrees with my claims in RoR #580514 or this report to band together and get OCDAC shut down once & for all! They don't deserve the opportunity to screw over any more autistic poeple, let alone any other vulnerable, unemployed SSI beneficiaries! I hope I have understood correctly in taking this report as Sharky has cut ties with OCDAC.

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