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Complaint Review: Paynet Systems - Alpharetta Georgia

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  • Paynet Systems 5955 Shiloh Road, Suite 100 Alpharetta, Georgia U.S.A.

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Ok well I run fireworks stand once a year and I sell stereos and computers all year. I signed up with them and they decided to keep my money from me because they didn't like the products I was selling. I had no idea of how much credit card sales I would do and I went over my estimate, mind you I said estimate!! They don't understand that word. They claimed I went over my contract agreement total (The contract stated estimate did I mention that). They also said they called my office and nobody answered, I have a home office and the first 2 weeks of July I was at work! One customer did a charge back and I had proof of the sale and I faxed it to them. The charge back was found to be wrong. So that means it didn't go through. Their contract stated that I would not get charged if it didn't go through, but I was charged anyway. I did however sign a different contract that stated the charge back fee and no stipulations on it. They did a bait and switch. The terms I agreed to online were really different to the terms I signed up for and the actual contract I signed was one page and the one they e-mailed me was 18 pages. They also claimed that there was a problem with their links on there because they were being bought out by Pipeline Data. They Did some really screwed up restructuring stuff and the only one that got screwed was me, and the other customers probably. They sent me a letter also stating that I had to pay a contract termination fee, when they cancelled my contract and oh wait I thought there were no contract cancellation fees?
The next month they said they were wrong and those fees were incorrect. I had the fireworks stand in July of 2007 and didn't get most of my money until January 17, 2008.
If you want to be screwed go for it, otherwise find a reliable company because this isn't it.

I have learned go with a real bank that does credit card processing, they are more honest because they have a reputation to keep up.

macigiver
Frankfort, Michigan
U.S.A.

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Response to the dirty underhanded credit card company EVIL

AUTHOR: Macigiver - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, November 06, 2010

Ok this is a rebuttal to their response, Paynet Systems claimed that the state was in(Michigan) required me to get Additional sales licenses to sell aditional merchandice and that i should send them those licenses.   I have a sales tax lic. in Michigan and it entitles me to sell anything but cigerretes, cars and alcohol. I could sell sex toys if i had wished too, the state doesn't care. I was in their words "approved for a certain amount"   the question that i was asked was "what is your estimitated sales volume.    just that word estimate says it all.    they allso asked me what are some of the products I sold, not all of the products I sold forever, I had planned to have a long standing realitionship with them and keep my account for my computer sales and to start a credit card processing account for july sales for 1 month is well a hassle, but now i have to do this, and i completely understand the dirty underhanded tricks on all credit card processing card companies in question.  I estimates my sales volume to be around $2,500 well my estimate was low because i had never accepted credit cards before and I took in a record 9,000 in credit card sales.  oow I violated my contract, you winey bastards big f******* deal.   I made sure every contract  signed would not punish me for my business to do well.   I have since signed up with a local bank and have a contract with them, and they a sub of first data.  They don't try to screw with me, i have an account at one of their banks  BUT, I actually talked with my sales rep, I know where he works and where he lives.   So if him or his bank decides to  screw me for thousands of dollars i am entilted to, well lets just say he will be the one with the problem.   Paynet systems is lucky they were on the phone and thousands of miles away from my business.  do your self a favor and get in touch with a local bank, if you shake the hand of the person you have signed up with, you will be better off because most likely he will have scroopels. By the way they contacted me,   They called my office on july 1st 2nd, 3rd & july 4th

some customer forgot where he bought fireworks and they couldn't contact my office because I was on location doing business as usual. and by the way, they got my account number worng when they first tried to take money out of my account.  their mistake.

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DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PAYNET SYSTEMS AND PIPELINE DATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AUTHOR: KImberly Alkema - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, November 05, 2010

The Consumer is absolutely correct in his statement above. They will harass you and hold your money. I have been running my own business for over 10 years and have never experienced TRAUMA of accepting credit cards, this company will make it TRAUMA!

Avoid processing cards with this company, you with deeply regret it. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PAYNET SYSTEMS AND PIPELINE DATA. They will hold your money. I really believe it's a SCAM to make interest on your monies as they hold it.
NEVER PROCESS CREDIT CARDS WITH PAYNET SYSTEMS & PIPELINE DATA RIPOFF & SCAM COMPANY! 
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#4 UPDATE Employee

Paynet Systems- our side of the mentioned events

AUTHOR: Cs Manager - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, May 01, 2009

Paynet Systems prides itself on educating our customers with regards to their responsibilities when accepting credit cards. Unfortunately it is virtually impossible to predict all circumstances that can potentially lead to issues. This is certainly one of those incidents.

The referenced customer setup his computer business to accept credit cards. We approved the account as we normally due. The problem arose when we started seeing an unusual amount of credit card sales volume in a short period of time. This was outside of the norm for this account. Additionally, in a short period of time, this customer greatly exceeded their approved monthly sales volume. The combination of these events raised flags' within our security/risk department. As a result the merchant was contacted and engaged in a verbal conversation. During the conversation this merchant advised us that the reason his volume was skyrocketing was due to selling fireworks during 4th of July holidays. This was in direct violation of the contract. You cannot setup an account for one business (computer store), and accept credit cards using the same account for a completely different business and product (fireworks). Additionally, as a registered Independent Sale Office, we have established industry rules and regulations that we must follow. Meaning, regardless of who this merchant chose for his processing needs, he would find himself in the same situation. This is not indicative of Paynet Systems. Rather, as an industry, this is simply not allowed and is stricly enforced.

We believed this violation was unintentional. As such, we advised the merchant to setup an additional account for the firework business. He refused. As a result of his unwillingness to correct the error, we had no option but to hold his funds until the chargeback liability period had expired, thus removing the potential risk of losses this situation presented to our company. Once this period expired, his money was immediately released back to the merchant.

It's unfortunate that this situation was not resolved amicably. However, we feel we did all within reason to avoid the ultimate outcome.

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Paynet Systems- our side of the mentioned events

AUTHOR: Cs Manager - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, May 01, 2009

Paynet Systems prides itself on educating our customers with regards to their responsibilities when accepting credit cards. Unfortunately it is virtually impossible to predict all circumstances that can potentially lead to issues. This is certainly one of those incidents.

The referenced customer setup his computer business to accept credit cards. We approved the account as we normally due. The problem arose when we started seeing an unusual amount of credit card sales volume in a short period of time. This was outside of the norm for this account. Additionally, in a short period of time, this customer greatly exceeded their approved monthly sales volume. The combination of these events raised flags' within our security/risk department. As a result the merchant was contacted and engaged in a verbal conversation. During the conversation this merchant advised us that the reason his volume was skyrocketing was due to selling fireworks during 4th of July holidays. This was in direct violation of the contract. You cannot setup an account for one business (computer store), and accept credit cards using the same account for a completely different business and product (fireworks). Additionally, as a registered Independent Sale Office, we have established industry rules and regulations that we must follow. Meaning, regardless of who this merchant chose for his processing needs, he would find himself in the same situation. This is not indicative of Paynet Systems. Rather, as an industry, this is simply not allowed and is stricly enforced.

We believed this violation was unintentional. As such, we advised the merchant to setup an additional account for the firework business. He refused. As a result of his unwillingness to correct the error, we had no option but to hold his funds until the chargeback liability period had expired, thus removing the potential risk of losses this situation presented to our company. Once this period expired, his money was immediately released back to the merchant.

It's unfortunate that this situation was not resolved amicably. However, we feel we did all within reason to avoid the ultimate outcome.

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Paynet Systems- our side of the mentioned events

AUTHOR: Cs Manager - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, May 01, 2009

Paynet Systems prides itself on educating our customers with regards to their responsibilities when accepting credit cards. Unfortunately it is virtually impossible to predict all circumstances that can potentially lead to issues. This is certainly one of those incidents.

The referenced customer setup his computer business to accept credit cards. We approved the account as we normally due. The problem arose when we started seeing an unusual amount of credit card sales volume in a short period of time. This was outside of the norm for this account. Additionally, in a short period of time, this customer greatly exceeded their approved monthly sales volume. The combination of these events raised flags' within our security/risk department. As a result the merchant was contacted and engaged in a verbal conversation. During the conversation this merchant advised us that the reason his volume was skyrocketing was due to selling fireworks during 4th of July holidays. This was in direct violation of the contract. You cannot setup an account for one business (computer store), and accept credit cards using the same account for a completely different business and product (fireworks). Additionally, as a registered Independent Sale Office, we have established industry rules and regulations that we must follow. Meaning, regardless of who this merchant chose for his processing needs, he would find himself in the same situation. This is not indicative of Paynet Systems. Rather, as an industry, this is simply not allowed and is stricly enforced.

We believed this violation was unintentional. As such, we advised the merchant to setup an additional account for the firework business. He refused. As a result of his unwillingness to correct the error, we had no option but to hold his funds until the chargeback liability period had expired, thus removing the potential risk of losses this situation presented to our company. Once this period expired, his money was immediately released back to the merchant.

It's unfortunate that this situation was not resolved amicably. However, we feel we did all within reason to avoid the ultimate outcome.

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#1 UPDATE Employee

Paynet Systems- our side of the mentioned events

AUTHOR: Cs Manager - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, May 01, 2009

Paynet Systems prides itself on educating our customers with regards to their responsibilities when accepting credit cards. Unfortunately it is virtually impossible to predict all circumstances that can potentially lead to issues. This is certainly one of those incidents.

The referenced customer setup his computer business to accept credit cards. We approved the account as we normally due. The problem arose when we started seeing an unusual amount of credit card sales volume in a short period of time. This was outside of the norm for this account. Additionally, in a short period of time, this customer greatly exceeded their approved monthly sales volume. The combination of these events raised flags' within our security/risk department. As a result the merchant was contacted and engaged in a verbal conversation. During the conversation this merchant advised us that the reason his volume was skyrocketing was due to selling fireworks during 4th of July holidays. This was in direct violation of the contract. You cannot setup an account for one business (computer store), and accept credit cards using the same account for a completely different business and product (fireworks). Additionally, as a registered Independent Sale Office, we have established industry rules and regulations that we must follow. Meaning, regardless of who this merchant chose for his processing needs, he would find himself in the same situation. This is not indicative of Paynet Systems. Rather, as an industry, this is simply not allowed and is stricly enforced.

We believed this violation was unintentional. As such, we advised the merchant to setup an additional account for the firework business. He refused. As a result of his unwillingness to correct the error, we had no option but to hold his funds until the chargeback liability period had expired, thus removing the potential risk of losses this situation presented to our company. Once this period expired, his money was immediately released back to the merchant.

It's unfortunate that this situation was not resolved amicably. However, we feel we did all within reason to avoid the ultimate outcome.

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