• Report: #778478

Complaint Review: Pioneer Auction Gallery

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  • Submitted: Mon, September 19, 2011
  • Updated: Thu, May 24, 2012

  • Reported By: Honest Dave — New Port Richey Florida United States of America
Pioneer Auction Gallery
14650 Southeast Arista Drive Portland, Oregon United States of America

Pioneer Auction Gallery is Knowingly Selling Fakes & Reproductions, Representing These Items As Authentic Misleading Bidders & Offer No Help!!! Portland, Oregon

*Consumer Comment: Pioneer Antique Gallery

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Pioneer Auction Gallery in Portland, Oregon knowingly sell fake/reproduction items as authentic. I purchased several expensive items from their Labor Day sale and ever item turned out to be fakes or reproductions. I spent $1,700 on items that all turned out to be junk/fake. The items I received were worth a total of $20.

 I called and emailed the company several times. The company never responded to any of my emails. When I called, I was told that me getting fake items is not their fault and that I should look more closely at photos before I bid. I explained to the very rude gentleman that unless you physically handle certain items you cannot tell they are fake. He then told me that is not their problem and that they offer NO REFUNDS and if you attempt a charge back they have in their terms and conditions that they will levy a fee of $1,000.00 against you and send you to a collection agency.

Consumers are protected under both state and federal laws and charging a consumer a fee for a charge back is not even legal. I have dealt with many honest auction houses, Pioneer Auction Gallery is not one of them, and have never seen a disclaimer like this auction house. If you need to add to your terms and conditions that you will charge an astronomical fee for a charge back that leads me to believe they have many people that try and return items due to them being fake.

 The company will use words like "Rare" or "Hard To Find" when describing items. Most of the items are fakes and reproductions made to intentionally mislead the buyer/bidder when they view it in photos. They have very vague descriptions, which is done so they can tell the bidder that they never said it was real. Since when is a reproduction "rare" or "hard to find"??

In conclusion, I feel Pioneer Auction Gallery intentionally misled me, lied to me, and committed fraud. The knowingly sold me fake/reproduction items as authentic. When informed of this, they become rude and are not willing to help in any way. They just keep mentioning they offer no refunds, and if you do a charge back you will be sent to collections for a $1,000.00 fee that is in their terms and conditions. I have contacted the BBB and the Oregon Attorney Generals Office and they are looking into the matter.

If any fee is levied against me I will be suing this company. The other complaint against the company, before my complaint, is 100% accurate and correct. If the owner makes a rebuttal on this complaint it will be full of lies just like her last rebuttal against the first complaint. I am not a competitor or a local person trying to defame this auction company, I am just a consumer, a collector, that has been severely wronged by this company, have been ripped off and Pioneer Auction Gallery refuses to help me in any way.

I WOULD NOT BID ON ANY OF THEIR AUCTIONS AND SPREAD THE WORD TO YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY. THIS WILL SAVE MANY PEOPLE THE HEADACHE AND TROUBLE THAT I AM GOING THROUGH JUST SO I CAN GET MY MONEY BACK FOR A BUNCH OF "MADE IN CHINA" REPRODUCTIONS THAT THEY SOLD TO ME AS AUTHENTIC!!! BIDDER/BUYER BEWARE!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!
 

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/19/2011 09:37 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Pioneer-Auction-Gallery/Portland-Oregon-97267/Pioneer-Auction-Gallery-is-Knowingly-Selling-Fakes-Reproductions-Representing-These-It-778478. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Pioneer Antique Gallery

AUTHOR: 212pjs - (United States of America)

http://pioneerantiqueauction.com/

Here is their main Page.

http://www.auctionzip.com/OR-Auctioneers/39922.html

http://www.icollector.com/auctionlist.aspx?ae=1186

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/AuctionsByCompany.asp?ahid=2500

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/browse/seller/bidpioneer

bidpioneer@aol.com-   to me; If you attempt to call or email us anymore we are filing charges of harrasment against you. This is their response to my claim!

I just got off the phone with the Clackamas County Sheriffs Office, a report was filed on you with Officer Scott. She said to let you know a report has been filed on you. She said to inform you that a log is going to be started every time you call or email us and if this continues a charge of telephonic harassment will be filed against you. 

really you are selling Counterfeit Items Knowing it!! That is Illegal! Last time I looked!



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I won't respond to all of this because it's just simply untrue. This person was actually Granted a Refund, even though Our Auction, like any & all I have ever heard of, Sells items AS IS WHERE IS WITH NO REFUNDS. So, I'm unsure why they are so disgruntled. All Bidders / Buyers are REQUIRED to Agree to Our Terms & Conditions BEFORE they are allowed to bid. Terms & Conditions that SPECIFICALLY State:

"It is the Bidders responsibility to Research, Inspect, Determine Authenticity, Genuineness, Age, Condition & Value or any other  determinative factor. Our Company may attempt to describe the merchandise in our Catalog, Advertising, on the Internet and at the auction but makes NO Representations, Guarantees or Warranties on any item Sold. Catalog is merely an Opinion that is written as a guide to aid potential bidders & may contain errors or omissions. By Bidding,
you acknowledge that our Catalog is an Opinion & not a Guarantee or Warranty. You, the bidder, also agree, before placing any bids, that YOU are Responsible for Researching & Inspecting all item(s) up for bid & Determining their Authenticity, Genuineness, Age, Condition & Value or any other determinative factor. In no event shall Our Company be held responsible for any errors or omissions or for having made or implied any guarantee or warranty of authenticity,
merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose."

Please tell us how this 'intentionally misleads the buyer'? Could we possibly BE any MORE Honest? There are MANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS on the Value, Condition, Rarity & Authenticity of most of the items we sell. That is WHY we are EXTREMELY Up Front & Honest with our Terms & Conditions that Bidders / Buyers MUST agree to BEFORE they are allowed to bid.

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