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Complaint Review: PMI Coaching - AFI/IDI Links4trade - Auctions For Income - Dave Espino

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  • Submitted: Sat, November 27, 2004
  • Updated: Wed, October 12, 2005

  • Reported By:Portland Oregon
PMI Coaching - AFI/IDI Links4trade - Auctions For Income - Dave Espino
360 Technology Court, Lindon, Utah U.S.A.

PMI Coaching - Links4trade - Auctions For Income - Dave EspinoPMI Coaching - AFI/IDI Links4trade Ripoff Deceptive claims High pressure sales Easy to use program claimed to offer a money back guarantee only after I canceled the system within the 3 day limit have done everything required and no success at all to date Lindon Utah
*UPDATE: Rip-off Report Investigation - Professional Marketing International, PMI - PMI coaching recognized by Rip-off Report as a safe business service - PMI coaching pledges to resolve complaints from the past & in the future, 100% commitment to customer service, feel confident & secure when doing business with member businesses

*Consumer Comment: PMI John - Lehi, Utah, PMI in middle of all rip-offs, everyone needs to give this a read - http://www.stocklemon.com/articles/03_18_05.html

*Consumer Suggestion: Coaching and mentoring programs DO NOT work. If they did, no company would be selling them to you!

*UPDATE Employee: I work for pmi

*Consumer Suggestion: PMIcoaching.com Make in 2 days!!!

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*Consumer Suggestion: Make a donation now. Then, come and read up on the new fraud as it comes out!

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I bought the "Auctions For Income" program in May 2004. Soon, I was contacted by "PMI Coaching" and offered a Website building system which was "Guaranteed" and certain to be sucessful.

I bought the $3995.00 program which included "Guaranteed Hits" "Personal Mentoring" and "Success Building tools" along with various other perks for my website, which I have since found that you can get for practically nothing or for a minor fee on numerous other internet locations.

After some anxious days, I opted to cancel the system within the 3 day time limit, wherin I was put through to a "Manager" who offered to extend a "6 month Money Back Guarantee" if I hadn't made back my original $3995.00 investment within that period. (Wonder why they didn't offer this to me initially!?)

Six months later and after complying with all their requirements, I have made nothing, I have spent additionally $30.00 per month since then paying extremely high hosting fees to "Quicksite Builder" whom I suspect is affiliated with them.

On December 8th it will have officially been 6 months since I "re" purchased the system (after having initially canceled it within the 3 day time limit). Their customer service has been sluggish and the site seems to be disabled most of the time. The "guaranteed" links have mostly been to expired or non existent websites. All the "traffic" we've gotten has been from our own personal efforts.

I plan to submit this in the hopes that they will honor their "Money Back Guarantee" to me and refund the $3995.00 immediately. I have become much wiser through this experience and plan on making a donation to the "Ripoff Report" WHEN my money is PROMPTLY refunded to me.

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Robert
Portland, Oregon
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#1 Consumer Comment

PMI John - Lehi, Utah, PMI in middle of all rip-offs, everyone needs to give this a read - http://www.stocklemon.com/articles/03_18_05.html

AUTHOR: Fyi - (U.S.A.)

There are so many business gimmick titles and names one can search to find PMI in the middle of almost all of them. iMergent, StoresOnline, Net Gateway, Auctions for Income, Internet Treasure Chest, plus many, many more.



If you are not a rip-off then why does your company find it necessary to move locations? Felt necessary to change names and locations in attempts to outrun your BAD reputation. Not merely street addresses but states!!!! If you are so reputable, then why does the BBB have you listed as UNSATISFACTORY??????



Looks to me like you are quite happy with wearing the SHAME you and the other coaches bring upon yourselves as you fill your pockets at the cost of hard working people, delivering nothing but heartache.



Your soooo NOT reputable that you made it in the online public notices of StockLemon.com. Everyone needs to give this a read!!!!!! Copy and paste this line into your address bar ---

http://www.stocklemon.com/articles/03_18_05.html



John - Save your reputable rhetoric for the office water cooler. Your BAD PMI reputation precedes you!!! Working with you or any other coaching group is nothing more than a gamble. Most lose, especially when they are not the inner circle: relatives, friends, employees.



I'm so very sorry more people don't know about this site so they can check here first. They can save themselves all the worthless time and effort that goes no where and then have to battle for their refund because of false promises, lies, non-deliverable - unreliable product. Unethical misrepresentation of products and services.



Robert - contact the people at idiglobal.com. They are the internet package designer/builder/owners of Quicksite Builder & Links4Trade. Get them involved.



Search other reports here at rip-off listed under Auctions for Income & PMI, read all the ones that have Refund, or money refunded, 100% refund and the like. Find out what others did to get their money back.



And stay away from The Tax Club too.
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

Coaching and mentoring programs DO NOT work. If they did, no company would be selling them to you!

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

You got to be out of your mind if you think some company is going to sell you a winning idea. I don't care if you pay them a few hundred or even a few thousand dollars.



If they had a winning plan that would allow people to make a profitable e-commerce web site, they'd keep it all to themselves. These mentors would start their own web sites and make a great living from them. They would NOT spend their days coaching you.



Clearly, these mentoring programs never work. If they did, the people would never sell them. Instead, they'd be doing them for themselves.



Here's how it will actually work for you. If you pay thousands for one of these mentoring scams, you'll end up making little or nothing from it.



That's exactly why they sold it to you. The big money isn't in working the plan. No, the big money is in selling the plan to suckers who think that they are going to use it to get rich.



Always was. Always will be.



By the way, most of this mentoring trash comes from Utah. So, beware!
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#3 UPDATE Employee

I work for pmi

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

coaching and mentoring programs work, but only if you do. I find it interesting how much effort people put in bad mouthing coaching companies like mine, they'll spend hours a day writing these silly things and contacting attorneys looking for refunds. why don't you just focus that time on your business so you can make some money. In fact just devote half the time your returns would be there, just work quit complaining.



For everyone's information pmi has coached over 70000 people in north america alone. I'm one of those people, i beleive in what we do. If you could even read half the success stories we've created in the last 9 years maybe you would change your toon. People that work make money people who complain and say whoa is me don't shame on you, for your comments about pmi. Why don't you try to coach 70000 people and let me know if people whine to you about not getting rich.
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

PMIcoaching.com Make in 2 days!!!

AUTHOR: Chuan K - (U.S.A.)

Make money MONEY on PMIcoaching.com, in 30 days?? EASY money on PMI!

Thats BULSHIT! thats a BIG LIE!



PMIcoaching.com is GREAT web design, but rated number one on Web designs! But not eager people, to EASY MONEY on! PMIcoach is people with alot of money, peeons, and first time beginners! Again, PMIcoaching.com is not for you! Stay way from this web site, if you don't have money to BURN!



The truth around PMIcoaching.com, is making HARD money, the hard way. It's called spending 5 grand for site to up! And hope to make sure the the website is making pops. People has to like your site, to jion! Thats the hard part! It takes average site, takes 5 long years to porfit even. And 5 more to HARD EARNED money.
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

PMIcoaching.com Make in 2 days!!!

AUTHOR: Chuan K - (U.S.A.)

Make money MONEY on PMIcoaching.com, in 30 days?? EASY money on PMI!

Thats BULSHIT! thats a BIG LIE!



PMIcoaching.com is GREAT web design, but rated number one on Web designs! But not eager people, to EASY MONEY on! PMIcoach is people with alot of money, peeons, and first time beginners! Again, PMIcoaching.com is not for you! Stay way from this web site, if you don't have money to BURN!



The truth around PMIcoaching.com, is making HARD money, the hard way. It's called spending 5 grand for site to up! And hope to make sure the the website is making pops. People has to like your site, to jion! Thats the hard part! It takes average site, takes 5 long years to porfit even. And 5 more to HARD EARNED money.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

PMIcoaching.com Make in 2 days!!!

AUTHOR: Chuan K - (U.S.A.)

Make money MONEY on PMIcoaching.com, in 30 days?? EASY money on PMI!

Thats BULSHIT! thats a BIG LIE!



PMIcoaching.com is GREAT web design, but rated number one on Web designs! But not eager people, to EASY MONEY on! PMIcoach is people with alot of money, peeons, and first time beginners! Again, PMIcoaching.com is not for you! Stay way from this web site, if you don't have money to BURN!



The truth around PMIcoaching.com, is making HARD money, the hard way. It's called spending 5 grand for site to up! And hope to make sure the the website is making pops. People has to like your site, to jion! Thats the hard part! It takes average site, takes 5 long years to porfit even. And 5 more to HARD EARNED money.
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Make a donation now. Then, come and read up on the new fraud as it comes out!

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

This type of fraud is known as the web site counseling con. It's common. Search for Usight, at the top menu bar. Same story, different company.



Here's the way most of the people get a refund. They use a bank or credit card issuer to reverse the charge. Anything else is difficult at best.



You'll see one thing perfectly clear. Once you throw away your money on a fraud, it's difficult or impossible to get it back.



So, you need to learn to spot fraud BEFORE you get taken. You do that by coming here and reading for an hour or two once a week. Keep up. Learn how the crooks work. Learn to see it coming and step to the side.



Otherwise, you'll get eaten. Now, see why you can't wait to make your donation? Maybe you'll get your money back. Maybe you won't. Either way, your future lies in the pages of this site.



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