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  • Submitted: Wed, December 12, 2012
  • Updated: Thu, December 20, 2012

  • Reported By: Deborah T. — Albuquerque New Mexico United States of America
Rocco Joel
San Diego, California United States of America

Rocco Joel Joel Rosenstein, Joel Rosenstein-Rocco, Joel Rocco 19-years later and still a Cheater, Con Artist, Dead Beat, Thief and Master Manipulator San Diego, California

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I haven't Responded I'm not the person above

*Consumer Comment: Learn to read.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: YOU ARE AS STUPID AS STUPID GETS! LMAO!

*Consumer Comment: Morons unite!!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: HAHA all i can do is LAUGH at YOUR stupid a** JOEL.

*Author of original report: Accusing Your Son and Me of being "Drug Addicts? Calling your Own Son a "Loser?" "Extorting Money from your Elderly Parents?" What Kind of Scum are You?

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: My Drug addicted Ex

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Lies by a scorned "woman"

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Responding to Report: #946364. I thought I was re-reading "my" experience with Rocco Joel, aka Joel Rosenstein-Rocco, aka Joel Rocco.

First of all, this man is still married. He has not legally changed his name to my knowledge. Court records are public access. Use them to your advantage! This man is a compulsive liar. He tends to repeat his manipulative behaviors on others and is getting better all the time. He has an excuse for everything he does or doesn't do. He will lie, cheat, and steal for his benefit only. This man will cry on command in order for you to feel sorry for him. If that doesn't work, then there's always his "ulcer attack!"

My Experience with Joel Rosenstein:

19-years ago (1993), I went out on what was supposed to be "one date" with Joel Rosenstein. He never left (til later)! He wasn't employed. Joel claimed to be the Manager of a Rap group, named Empty Pockets. After time went by, I noticed this was not true. I knew some of the members of this group. I told Joel to get a job or get out.

I also became pregnant during this time (1993). He left me in April 1994 while I was 6-months pregnant for his "future" wife. When he left, he told me I had too many bills. He took my tools, my bed frame and several other items. I had to file a police report.

From April to May 1994, this man constantly harassed, stalked and threatened me! He told me he had people watching me in the neighborhood and would "take me out" if I didn't watch it. He told me multiple times that he was going to use my diaries to take my baby away from me. This went on til mid May when my dad died. Joel stopped his terrible behavior. I was so stressed and depressed that I lost ten pounds in my 7th month.

Thinking things would be different, I called him when I had our son. Joel told me he couldn't come to see the baby because he "didn't have a ride." That was the last I heard of him until our son was almost 2-years old.

In 1996, I got an unexpected visitor! Joel told me (almost crying) that his grandfather in NY just died and he was watching shows on "deadbeat dads." He felt like a d**k and wanted to see our son. I allowed the visit. Joel told me his future wife "allowed" him to see our son. Joel told me he wanted to continue seeing our son and made plans to take him to the park the following day. Joel never showed. I called his work. Joel told me he was busy and hung up. I found out years later, from Joel's family member, that he and his girlfriend had broken up but got back together. When he came to visit, he had a tattoo on his shoulder area that said "Y's guy."

Joel also did not have a vehicle. I made the mistake of letting him borrow my car (white Chevy Lumina).  He took advantage of that. He would leave me at home at night, pregnant, and no vehicle should something go wrong. He went on dates with other women in it. Joel started staying out later and later. One time he came home crying at 4am. His excuse was that he felt responsible for his hockey teammates injury and had been at the hospital.

Joel once gave me an "engagement ring." I found out years later that he stole the ring from his family member. This wasn't the only thing he stole. Joel had me drive him to his family member's flower shop in 1993. He stole the cash drawer as I later found out. My sister and his friend were with us. I told him what he did was wrong and should take the money back or repay it. He told me several weeks later that he made amends with his parents and paid them back. He told me that I shouldn't say anything about it to them because it was a sore subject.

This man has no conscience! Joel "deeded" his part of his property to someone else after he was served Child Support papers. The case was opened 5/3/2002. He deeded his assets to the other person on 6/28/2002. My Support Order became effective on 10/10/2002. I assume this was to ensure that I could not put a lien on the property, which happened to be a $2.5 million condo.

One of the lowest things this man has done was declining and blocking our son from his Facebook account earlier this year! My son wants to know his father. Imagine how my son must feel being turned down like that? Additionally, Joel tends to forget that he has two sons, not just one! But hey, exploiting women and friends are his priority, right? I mean, he is high maintenance, or so he thinks.

Nothing about him has changed after all this time. It must be really, really sad to be him!



This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/12/2012 02:32 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Rocco-Joel/San-Diego-California-/Rocco-Joel-Joel-Rosenstein-Joel-Rosenstein-Rocco-Joel-Rocco-19-years-later-and-still-a-C-981136. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

I haven't Responded I'm not the person above

AUTHOR: Him - (United States of America)

I am not Dog E Dog Adrian, I haven't responded to you so you can stop answering to the person above me. I didn't post the last 2 posts and I'm not from Fallbrook.

I'm done with your slanderous lies calling me a "coke head" and I'm not talking"sh*t" to you so just stop using my name and making false accuasations against me.

I'm done with this. The damage is done.
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#2 Consumer Comment

Learn to read.

AUTHOR: DogEDog - (United States of America)

Welcome back Moron. I love how punks like you use false information to back their rambling and pathetic cries for attention. I could laugh for days at your posts, but since you are so dedicated to your weak little life then let me post here what anyone can find in any dictionary.

Weed aka cannabis is a drug, from the family cannabinoid try going to class, and doing something more than being laughed at for being such an idiot.

Pick up a book and a few less twinkies, get out and do something with your life, and stop living at your moms house before you wake up to find you are 25 years old with a part time job and even your "friends" won't come over because they have moved on and became productive members of society.
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#3 REBUTTAL Individual responds

YOU ARE AS STUPID AS STUPID GETS! LMAO!

AUTHOR: A-B-SOSTEEZY - (United States of America)

Joel, marijuana is NOT a drug, YES it may be illegal in 48 states, but its a naturally grown substance to ease the mind, body, and soul.  YOU however should know that, ive heard you been cheifing it since your teen years as well!  Also, COCAINE IS ALSO A DRUG MORON!! ALCOHOL is a DRUG.  You are one ignorant s****. />   Joel stop talking sh*t to ME, a 42 year old talking sh*t to an 18 year old? HAHAHAHAHAHA weak little man.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Morons unite!!

AUTHOR: DogEDog - (United States of America)

Lets start off by proving that you are in fact a moron, weed is a drug. You can not claim to not be a drug user by saying you use drugs. Secondly who cares that someone won't face book you, if you have a deep rooted desire to contact every man your tramp, sorry "mom" boned then get out your prepaid phone and start dialing. With any luck they will pay you for the call and have the benefit of not needing to visit a free clinic afterwards like the previous contact with that which bore you. Grow up and realize that half the lies your mom told were to cover her insecurities and failings as a parent. When you whine about 412 per month as income, there is none to blame except yourself. Get off that over fed a*s and work a normal job. Stop sucking the money out of the welfare system, and teach your offspring the benefits of working. And you, stop being the typical worthless runt of society and grow up. Maybe work at McDonalds and earn twice your moms worth. And don't be so pathetic to post your sniveling story's about who won't friend you on spacebook and man up you wuss.
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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

HAHA all i can do is LAUGH at YOUR stupid a** JOEL.

AUTHOR: A-B-SOSTEEZY - (United States of America)

FIRST OFF. me and my mom are not drug users, i admit i smoke marijuana, party occasionally, but what
teenager doesn't? YOU Joel are an ignorant s****.> How does it feel to know that your son doesnt even know you and ALREADY hates you!!! And if i am such a loser why am i in college? something i guess your dumba** never got to. AND the reason i stopped going to your parents house is because everytime i walked through the freakin doors i had to see a picture of your stupid a**.  Your parents are great people dont get me wrong on that, they are very awesome people, we never had EVER asked for money from them. I lost hope on ever meeting you because i heard your wife "wouldn't allow you to see me".  I think thats a LOAD OF F**KING BULLS**T. Joel you are 42 years old, not 12 GROW UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS!  Im pretty sure if i met you i would spit in your face and back hand the sh*t out of you.  AND one thing i built hatred for while living around women my whole life is i dont take kindly to disrespect towards women, now that i see u USE women makes me want to put you in a boxing ring and knock your fata** the f**k out! and also F**K YOU  have a great day t(-_-t)
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#6 Author of original report

Accusing Your Son and Me of being "Drug Addicts? Calling your Own Son a "Loser?" "Extorting Money from your Elderly Parents?" What Kind of Scum are You?

AUTHOR: Deborah T. - (United States of America)

Your rebuttal is so typical of you! It is accusatory, inaccurate, libelous and degrading. This is exactly how a narcissist operates. If these words are too big for you (being that you dropped out of High School).  Feel free to google these words if you don't understand them!

1) You don't know the first thing about my extensive college "education" level.

2) Your accusations of my son and me being "drug addicts" are libelous statements! I'm sure we could have tons of drugs on $206.00 every two weeks. I, for one, would love to know what "type" of drugs we are on? Crack, Heroin, Ecstasy, Coke, meth? LOL  This is a generalization and a non-specific statement. I haven't seen you or spoke to you since 1996, so how would you know?

3) You have not paid child support consistently for the last 12-years! The only way I get child support from you is though wage garnishment. It has been sporadic throughout the years. Since you failed to pay child support after the court order, you were hit with a 9% interest rate. You still owe $30k +. You have records of this? Feel free to share because I have them too!

4) How can I extort a man who is unemployed and on paper--broke?

5) You can't even spell your son's name correctly..."Adrain???"

6) Yes, you claimed to be a manager of the rap group, Empty Pockets. Stacey ended up in a coma and Steve moved out of state to pursue this career. You can find some of his videos on Youtube!

7) There are two "deeds" available for viewing in the San Diego county property search. You have a deed and a quitclaim deed; whereas, you are the grantor and your wife is the grantee! This is public record and I will be more than happy to provide you with the website address. Anybody can pull up these records! Look up San Diego County property records search. Type in your name and BOOM! There it is!

8)  The reason you received paternity papers eight years after the fact was because you changed your name. CSED closed the case here in New Mexico because you were incognito! CSED was looking for Joel Rosenstein, not Joel Rocco. What kind of a girly man takes his wife's last name anyway? LOL

9)  I have MAJOR issues with you calling OUR son a LOSER and a DRUG ADDICT! You say that again and see what happens! You don't mess with my boy...EVER!

10) It is also a libelous statement when you indicate that I "tried to extort money" from your elderly parents! Your parents have been nothing but kind to Adrian and me. I have NEVER asked your parents for a dime. I have enjoyed the time we spent together with your parents and sister as a family! You were NOwhere to be found. Where were you for the entire 16+ years? Calling your father every now and then and only when your mother wasn't home!

11) After you left your wife approximately TWO years ago, you called your parents and played the "poor me" act. You stated that your wife was so controlling and was the reason you never came home. Furthermore, you whined about having TWO sons and you missed out on their lives because of her. You gave them the "Joel Rosenstein is innocent act" and they bought it...again! If fact, it was YOU that extorted money from them so they could pay your ticket home this past year, wasn't it? You can go to Vegas and Seattle on a whim, but couldn't afford a plane ticket home? You even extorted money from your dying grandmother to buy that stupid monster truck. You never paid her back either!

12) I explained to your father the reasons why we stopped going over. It had nothing to do with "the well running dry!" I have proof of this. What kind of lowlife would bring his parents into this argument and LIE about it? Bagel boy and monkey-dog, Joel Rosenstein-aka Joel Rocco, aka Rocco Joel.

13) I cheated on you with three guys? When? How? I could never get time away from you being that you were psycho jealous! I would love to know their names! I took you to work at 4:30am, bagel boy! During lunch, you got the car and picked me up from work at 3:30pm.  You were like a fly, swarming around me to the point that wouldn't leave me alone! I couldn't even go to the bathroom without you following me. The only mutual acquaintances we knew together were: Steve, Stacey, Brian, Ted, my late uncle Ralph, and aunt Kim. If YOU weren't home, Stacey was with me at all times.

14) You were NOT faithful to me! Maria Robles saw you on Central in your monster truck with a woman and it wasn't me!

15) You left me in April 1994 and were already seeing your wife. I was 6-months pregnant and you knew very well this was your child! You were there at conception (September 1993) and were told when I gave birth. Your mother came to the hospital to see your son! You even asked your parents for my Emergency room copay when I was four months pregnant and started bleeding!

16) You are NOT divorced. There is nothing in the court documents that state otherwise. If you are divorced then you will have NO trouble providing the court filed and document number. This is public record! You want people to believe you are divorced...prove it! How could you have divorced your wife three years ago when you told your parents that you left her about two years ago? Do the math before you speak!

17) My brother came to visit at the most three times. He was still in High School (10th grade)  and living with my parents! How is it that he could "mooch" if he didn't live with us? As for my sister, she was going to college and working because she had a baby to support. How can anybody mooch off of a man who made wages working as a bagel boy? I was working too! You were NOT the sole supporter.

18) Move on and find God? Don't you mean Adonai or Elohim? You are JEWISH! You are also HALF POLISH!  If you're pretending to be Christian, you ought to rephrase your statement and tell me to "find Jesus."

19) According to my records, you never went to your paternity test. You never went to ANYthing that court required or asked of you. You wouldn't even provide your wages. According to my records, you're monthly income was $1,150/month per CSED records. You've always worked under the table so that you can avoid paying taxes! If you want a paternity test now, go for it. I guarantee you will be responsible for the fee when Adrian turns out to be your son!

20) I find it insulting that you left two of your children high and dry, meanwhile, raising your wife's two nephews! Was it fun being her monkey? Or were you her dog?

21) Need I mention Symbol Real Estate? Jrocco@symbolrealestate.com or .net. I have proof of that. You were trying to negotiate Real Estate transactions without a license. This is illegal!

22) You have stated online that you were the Vice-President of your wife's business, Rocco Real Estate. This would indicate that you both shared funds equally if you worked together. In fact, she was the Realtor and you fixed the homes so that she, as the Realtor, could flip them and make profits off of this. I would love it if the IRS were to do an audit on this. I should have turned this in to CSED when I had the chance. I could have had more money to do my "alleged" non-specific drugs with my son (sarcastically)!

24) Then you turn around and change your job description online that you worked for Five Point Capital from 2004-2010; Reliant Services Group 2010-2011. Did you know that Reliant Services Group requires that employees be licensed and insured? If you don't believe me, look at the Better Business Bureau. It is impossible that you could have had that job since your credit rating is ruined. It is also impossible that you worked for Five Point Capital for all those years. Child Support would have garnished your wages and they didn't. If you did, then I need to make a phone call!

25) You changed your name? In what court? You got married 1997 in Las Vegas, NV. It would be impossible for a man to change his last name in that state. For your information, your sister had me research to see if you really changed your last name. Your father was so distraught and disgusted that you were no longer a Rosenstein! I discovered that there are only four states that allow this to happen upon marriage. Guess what? Nevada and California are NOT one of these states! How is it that you can go from name to name and what is your motive for doing it? Because YOU are hiding from your obligations. Furthermore, it is YOURSELF who you are really describing when you made accusation about my son and me in your rebuttal! It is YOU that has done all these horrendous acts! I've even heard that you do cocaine. How's that for specifics on drug addiction! HA

26) You cannot find ONE single, specific accusation about me that is realistic or that can be confirmed. Everything you have stated is a generalization and not a fact. This is how you operate. You strike back by calling names, making erroneous claims, and you try to make the other person feel bad so that it makes YOU feel better about yourself. Your rebuttal is such that it takes away from my relationship experience with you. All it really does is show who you really are and how nasty you can be. In fact, your rebuttal made me laugh. What are you? In middle school? Just a baby throwing a tantrum...like always! Go curl up in a ball with your "ulcer." LOL

27) How can you afford a lawyer when you're unemployed? Do you really want to go there? There's nothing worse a Judge hates more than a "he said, she said" case! Give me the name of your lawyer so I can call him or her. Let's settle this, bagel boy!

How low can you be to call your own son a loser and drug addict???? That is just horrible! I hope everyone gets to see the REAL Joel Rosenstein. The bagel boy from Albuquerque, NM.
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#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds

My Drug addicted Ex

AUTHOR: Him - (United States of America)

Not only have I paid support with documented proof. You also tried to extort mony from my elderly parents, but when you found out that the well ran dry you and my son disappeard out of all of our lives. I have paid support on time since I found out that he was my son. Apparently he has not seen a dime because you continue to support the drug habit with support payments that you've had since 1993. I worked and you took, I was faithful and you cheated on me with three differct people that all admitted it to me. I also see that you think I had a 2.5 million dollar condo? the truth is that my exwife and I owned a condo that cost 211k (but I guess a discrepancy of 2.3 million dollars make sense given your education)

I know a couple of things.

1 I pay child support and am never late despite my economic struggles.

2 You took my son out of my parents life when you say that they were not the cash cows you thought they were.

3 This stuff that tour posting about me is lies and is very sladerous and will be taken care of in a court of law as per my attorney.

4 I supported us when we lived together, while your brother and sister mooched and did drugs at our home.

I think it's time for you to move on and find God. It's never to late to ask for forgiveness.

 
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#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Lies by a scorned "woman"

AUTHOR: Him - (United States of America)

First off, I don't give in to veiled threats by drug addicts which both my son Adrain and ex gf are. You posted this here to extort me(as our recent conversation) to get money in addition to the child support I've been paying for the last 12 years. You also served me with paternity papers 10 YEARS after the fact. After the paternity test I agreed to pay child support and have been diong so ever since. The managing of a rap group???? This is news to me as well as the 2.5 million dollar condo that I supposedly owned. I never deeded anything nor will I appear on any type of court documents as the owner of said condo. It amazes me that I have to defend myself to drug addict, money grubbing losers like yourselves. I can only pray for you and that God forgives you when your time comes.

God Bless

PS. Ive been divorced for 3 years.
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