• Report: #55501

Complaint Review: Special Weapons - Top Notch, Todd R. Bailey And Wendy Bailey

  • Submitted: Sat, May 03, 2003
  • Updated: Tue, October 12, 2010

  • Reported By:Santa Rosa California
Special Weapons - Top Notch, Todd R. Bailey And Wendy Bailey
6914 E UPPER TRAIL CIR MESA , AZ 85207 MESA, Arizona U.S.A.

Special Weapons, Top Notch, Todd R. Bailey And Wendy Bailey ripoff fraudulent ripoff business Mesa Arizona

*General Comment: Proper Formal Certifications!

*Consumer Comment: Bob cat weapon problems

*Consumer Comment: Customer of Coharie Arms

*Consumer Comment: Rebel killer? Yea right!

*Consumer Comment: Special Weapons firearms

*Consumer Comment: clearing customs in two days with weapons???

*Consumer Suggestion: walks like a duck.........talks like duck............

*Consumer Comment: Why buy Jam-o-matic junk in the first place?

*Consumer Comment: Oddities about SW/Todd Bailey

*Consumer Comment: Happy SW3 Owner

*Consumer Comment: sw-5

*Consumer Comment: This man has a history of shady business practices.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: lies about my business on the internet

*Consumer Comment: Todd & Wendy sell nothing but top-notch equipment

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In 7/1998 I purchased a SW-5. I was given an introductory price of 700 dollars which would be delivered in 3 months. Instead I waited 16 months for receipt. In 11/1999 the contract introductory price of 700 dollars was raised under blackmail to 998 dollars. The rifle which I was promised was substandard. It jams to this day do to miss matched parts and rattles because of poor installation. I was promised a firearm which was better than the real thing a HK94 heckler and hoch and instead received a dangerous firearm which was thrown together with a distinctive spatter weld technique.

So I forwarded a copy of the e-mail to Todd and his response was (in its entirety) "What the F*ck do you want me to do about it?!

Then on 01/00 I discovered that Mr. Baily double charged my credit card and shipped me merchandise which I did not request. Go figure instead of fight it I just accepted this error and decided to move on.

Here is my take on Todd and Wendy Bailey from Special Weapons
He is a jackass who does things that border on criminal. He has also got to be the crappiest businessman alive, and is an inverterate, compulsive liar. All I ask for is an apology and refund of the difference between the introductory price and the rip off 11/99 price gouge.

Here are my problems
#1 After 160 rounds the front site fell out due to the fact that the roll pin was never inserted.
#2 plastic lower has developed considerable lateral play from front to rear.
#3 Front forearm is exceptionally loose and where the front pin goes through to hold it on contacts the barrel and cocking tube and has already started to gall both areas.
#4 Firing pin head has started to mushroom
#5 Ejector face has started to mushroom
#6 The mag well is off spec and mags rattle or fall out becasue of disporporting.

Annon ville, California

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#1 General Comment

Proper Formal Certifications!

AUTHOR: Bomber - (United States of America)

Anyone who knows anything about munitions or firearms entering into the formal transportation process knows that unless you have a priority as established by FEDERAL, State or military chains, you CAN NOT just send items of this, nor many that don't even fall under the category of "HAZARDOUS GOODS" without certifications that can NOT come at the rate mentioned.  YOU MUST use the "ORANGE BOOK", AFJMAN 24-204 and or many other publications on top of employing proper POP markings, and/or use of all properly procured markings that coincide with these items, while scheduling as MISSION ESSENTIAL or higher, to travel by Vessel, Rail or Air to its final location....ANGOLA, where it doesnt just enter by mail, and MUST BE PROPERLY ACCEPTED AND PASS THROUGH CHANNELS that many of us who understand what is available in ANGOLA, and will not get pushed off a truck or dropped from a plane like the movies lead you to believe.
LISTEN INDIANA JONES, I will set my FORMAL TRAINING AND certifications against ANYTHING you could post in justification for this shipment process to determine that your rhetoric is infantile while people are trying to get to the bottom of hard earned money spent, to people who take advantage of what they get through their own proper business dealings.  Don't minimize what both sides do when people are simply expressing dealings that dont meet one or both parties contracts.  
I ACTUALLY RODE ON A CIVILIAN AIRLINER right after 9/11 with 5 LOADED Barettas, WITH AMMO and I can assure you, without MY PRIOR DESIGNATION that took at least a week (and we know the priority RIGHT AFTER 9/11) I would have been crazy to attempt to do this.  AND MY P CODE allows me to fly on ANY aircraft carrying ANYTHING.  THAT IS NOT something else that others can do and it is NOT to be made a mockery of!
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#2 Consumer Comment

Bob cat weapon problems

AUTHOR: Bad Gun1 - (U.S.A.)

Purchesed a BW-5 right from the company quality was low weapon will only feed FMJ rounds magazine well was out of alighnment could never get those problems fixed so I have a very pretty $1000 paper weight.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Customer of Coharie Arms

AUTHOR: Jeremy - (U.S.A.)

I bought a CA 94 weapon off of Special Weapons on Gunbroker.com. I purchased it directly from Todd Bailey and every since I bought the weapon it has not worked. I got ripped off to the tune of 1100 dollars. I had to have a gunsmith fix it for an extra 500 dollars. Todd Bailey is still up to his typical corrupt business practices.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Rebel killer? Yea right!

AUTHOR: Fred Flintstone - (U.S.A.)

The first guys comments about receiving weapons overseas in two days is ridiculous. He sounds an awful lot like a guy I've seen elsewhere on the net who claims to be some sort of "special forces" mall security guard and in reality is a complete moron.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Special Weapons firearms

AUTHOR: Terry - (U.S.A.)

I've owned an SW5FS for several years and it functions flawlessly. I've used many different types of ammo without a single jam. I've used H&K mags, Turkish contract mags, and a Beta C drum with out a problem. The gun is as tight as the day it arrived even after several thousand rounds through it. At 75 feet I can rip the center out of a target with the SW5FS.

As for pricing when I bought mine it was on sale for $1100.00 to the dealers retail was $1750.00.
There was 1 dealer that carried SW's and he was charging the retail price, the other dealer in town ordered it for me at the sale price + 10% and shipping. Now this was several years after introduction, but I was happy with the price as an MP5 was 2 1/2 times that price.

I've talked with the dealer that ordered it for me, and we've talked about using his sear and taking it full auto. I have no fear that it will work just as well as a real H&K MP5.

I'm still using the extractor spring that came with the gun; I've got friends that have true H&K's that have had to replace the spring several times already.

Todd's business practies many be a little different then other companies, but they make a great weapon. As it was once explained to me by a gun smith; you could put 3 of the same gun by the same manufactuer and they would all be different. You could have a good a fair and a poor, and they all came off the same machines.
I've even bought an SP10 1 of 500 that they put out.
Right now I'm looking into buying the H&K USC/UMP conversion that they are making.
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#6 Consumer Comment

clearing customs in two days with weapons???

AUTHOR: C - (U.S.A.)

i work in aviation, i cant clear customs with aircraft parts to fight over seas fires in less than 4 days, and that's to a civil non warring country. this reprot of shipping the ammo and fire power in two days can not be true without breaking laws. simple fact.
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

walks like a duck.........talks like duck............

AUTHOR: Rich - (U.S.A.)

I am still waiting on the 2 sw5s at $700 each I reserved and was promised yrs ago. I think having a friend make up and post that Angola rebel "story" is very insulting and should be against the policies here. Nobody in their right mind could be convinced Todd Bailey could jump thru all the govermental hoops to get that ammo and those other widgets or any other materials or implements of war for that matter into a foriegn combat zone in 2 days. Do you live on the same planet as the rest of us??? Please provide us with simple proof of your claim, ie export documents, corespondence with state dept etc, even if this deal was worked by wire thru a foriegn country some documentation of your claim has to exist.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Why buy Jam-o-matic junk in the first place?

AUTHOR: Marc - (U.S.A.)

I sure hope your life doesn't ever depend on these "copycats" in a real fight. The big gun-makers charge more for their weapons for a reason. Good materials, good machining, and good quality control cost more. Leave the crap for the gang-bangers. Want cheap but reliable, buy surplus SKS rifles for a song, and they won't get you killed from jamming when you need it to work.
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#9 Consumer Comment

Oddities about SW/Todd Bailey

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

Over the past several years Mr. Bailey has spawned new companies to market the same product lines as the previous. This wouldn't be so odd except that in this industry it tends to coincide with certain "flaws" either in the product or the corporate structure. This is commonly seen in companies like Lorcin, Jennings (which recently resurrected as Jimenez Arms), HiPoint and other companies marketing a product of questionable quality. Here's the list of companies so far:











I've seen examples of his product that were of good quality and others that appeared to be built from a parts kit and items found in the recycle bin on the side of the house. Anyone considering buying a SW/Bobcat/Omega/Cohaire product should inspect it closely and confirm the warranty coverage before purchasing. One might also do a simple internet search for "Special Weapons +Todd Bailey" or "Special Weapons +Toad Bailey" and read the associated information. The product is hit or miss, the company well......never mind. My .02
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#10 Consumer Comment

Happy SW3 Owner

AUTHOR: William - (U.S.A.)

I purchased my SW3 .308 G3 Clone used from a police officer looking to liquidate some of his gun collection assets.

Since I missed out on buying an original HK 91 before prices went insane, I thought this gun would make a great addition to the collection.

I have been happy with the rifle and discuss this addition to my collection quite alot, because I believe the rifle was a good value for what I paid for it. The fit and finish of the gun are excellent and the only malfunctions I have experienced with it were while using a used HK magazine, which was bought separate from the rifle. I have run mostly suplus military ammo through the gun and it operated flawlessly otherwise.

I would consider buying other Special Weapons Products in the future.
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AUTHOR: Cliff - (U.S.A.)

I purchased a sw-5 from Speciality weapons and continually have malfunctions,failure to feed problems and casing dont eject and wind up inside the gun. The magagazine does not fit in the well properly making it loose. are there any remedies to these problems?
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#12 Consumer Comment

This man has a history of shady business practices.

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Todd Bailey puts out unreliable, unsafe products. He always threatens to sue anyone that tells the truth.
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#13 REBUTTAL Owner of company

lies about my business on the internet

AUTHOR: Todd Bailey - President - (U.S.A.)

Nick has been posting lies about my business on the internet for years we have decided to let Nick put his money where his mouth is and we have sued him, he avoid the process server for weeks but was finally served and we expect a default judgement against him any day and will post the judgement here. Also the above photo was us being served by Frank Miller that case the Judge just ruled in our favor and we are asking for $400,000 in damages read the judges decision here.


The judges decision speaks for itself, and even the judge thinks that Mr Miller may have broken the law in operating a business after the corp was closed. We are contacting the MO state federal prosicutor to see if he might be charged with ATF violations a federal felony.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Todd & Wendy sell nothing but top-notch equipment

AUTHOR: Rennie - (U.S.A.)

In my line of work as a security technician, life and death depends not only on the amount of firepower at my disposal but also how reliable it is. I am proud to say that I use Todd and Wendy for all my weapon needs.

They sure came in handy two summers ago in Angola. I needed one hundred Hammicher-Schwaab HS187D's FedExed ASAP, as well as 10,000 rounds. They had them to me in two days, and when we were through with the rebels they didn't know what hit them. We made such an impact that all we had to do was say Todd and Wendy and the rebels threw up their hands in surrender.

When it comes to exotic weaponry, I use Special Weapons exclusively.
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