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  • Submitted: Fri, September 30, 2005
  • Updated: Tue, November 22, 2011

  • Reported By:salem New Hampshire
State Paving - Pro-Paving - Public Paving - Reliable Paving
3 Old Coach Rd Kingston, New Hampshire U.S.A.

State Paving - Pro-Paving - Public Paving - Reliable Paving RIPOFF Family business is to rip you off Kingston New Hampshire

*Consumer Comment: not bad company

*Author of original report: Too much information to sort through...

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Owner of Maine Wide Paving

*General Comment: I was an customer !

*Consumer Comment: More Stanleys

*General Comment: hahahahahahah

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: i think sandra is a stalker

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: you don't always have all the facts rite

*Author of original report: Looky here, even more bad news re:Joshua Stanley

*Author of original report: more information, just facts.

*Consumer Comment: More NH Stanley family members in trouble, hmm?

*Consumer Suggestion: Sorry senior, guess it was just your offspring.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Still no proof of YOUR experience with State Paving, Sandra you are a liar!!

*Consumer Suggestion: Sounds definitive to me

*Author of original report: Joshua Stanley? Proof enough for you, I am satisfied.

*Author of original report: Looks like another concerned consumer may be taking heed...Yup, it's worth the time it took to write.

*Consumer Comment: are you for real

*Author of original report: Adressing Joshua Stanley: Are you stating that you are no relation to the Stanley families of Salem NH, Derry NH and Haverhill MA?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: State Paving is a reliable company..please come forward with PROOF 'Sandra'

*Consumer Comment: "muther" or MOTHER from ipswich ma

*Consumer Comment: umm excuse me!!! way out of line robyn

*Consumer Comment: How did you find this out?

*Consumer Comment: How did you find this out?

*Author of original report: New dirty business names

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All these companies seem to operated by the same gypsies...possible formerly of Ocean State Paving based in the Rhode Island area, and questionably of Oregon ties, where they hide when in trouble... One of the family members was just in the news for extorting money from a little old lady, Grand larceny I believe is the charge. Tried to con her for around $7,000, job was supposed to be around $2,500.

Sandra
salem, New Hampshire
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/30/2005 11:49 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/State-Paving-Pro-Paving-Public-Paving-Reliable-Paving/Kingston-New-Hampshire-03848/State-Paving-Pro-Paving-Public-Paving-Reliable-Paving-RIPOFF-Family-business-is-to-r-158982. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

not bad company

AUTHOR: audiobassiks - (United States of America)

i had my driveway paved by state paving over 4 years ago. the driveway was orginal paved by his father over 15 years ago. the work has held up to this day, only reason the driveway was repaved was do to the fact i added more driveway and wanted everything to match.   the only problem i have had with the driveway where 3 cracks.  but i was also told these cracks will appear over time, do to a tree that is right next to the driveway. it was explained to me why these cracks would appear.(the roots get bigger)  and the only way that can grantee the job is if i take the tree down.  there as been 5 or 6 other driveways done in my area, jobs gotten from my driveway. all over 5 years old and all in just as good shape as the day the went down.  minus the rich dark color. but the streets do the same 
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#2 Author of original report

Too much information to sort through...

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

Apologies to innocent parties are in order, but it is really hard to sort through all of the information at times. Overwhelming negative data online re: Stanley family transient paving companies, frequent business name changes, and multiple identities abused only compound the problem. Protect your business and yourselves.
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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Owner of Maine Wide Paving

AUTHOR: Maine Wide - (United States of America)

Hello. I am the owner of Maine Wide Paving. It has been brought to my attention by a concerned resident that my business was wrongfully being associated with the address 4 Meak Road Kingston, NH which "Sandra from Salem" has made her own corrections to this address. However both Merchants Circle and the women reporting on this website has reported the address incorrectly and I wanted to clear up these confusions. We are located in Barrington, NH and have never been associated with anyone in Kingston, NH. Sandra if you have any other concerns please contact Maine Wide Paving directly instead of reporting incorrect information. Please check back on Merchants Circle for this address to be corrected. Thank you.
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#4 General Comment

I was an customer !

AUTHOR: Robyn h - (U.S.A.)

I had hired State Paving to pave my driveway. About 4 years ago. What I know about the company is that it is a family business. He had came out to give myself and my wife an quote. He told us how he was going to pave it step by step. The man was very polite. He sold him self like a good business man. We had hired him to pave are driveway. It had came out good. We have no complains about State Paving. And are friend hired The company as well ! So as a person to read all the complaints I'm worried. Because I was going to hire them to seal coat it.  I had no problems with them. So Sandra what is your revenge with State Paving.
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#5 Consumer Comment

More Stanleys

AUTHOR: The Truth - (USA)

I am in Northern California, Red Bluff to be exact and some of the Stanley's seem to make their way here every summer. Many complaints and here is a published report on a George Stanley from CT:SACRAMENTO Contractors State License Board (CSLB) investigators caught up with one of the more notorious unlicensed transient paving contractors shortly after he started working again in California. George Stanley, 29, of Moosup, Connecticut, who already has felony cases pending in Tulare and Yuba Counties from 2008, was arrested today in Chico for resuming his paving scam, this year in different northern California counties. This morning, investigators with CSLBs State Investigative Fraud Team (SWIFT), along with officers from the California Highway Patrol, Butte County District Attorneys Office and Chico Police Department, arrested Stanley and two of his cousins, Kevin Snow, 21, and George Snow, 19, both of Salisbury, Massachusetts. The three are expected to face a series of charges including elder abuse, conspiracy to commit a felony, theft by use of false pretense, felony use of a contractors license, contracting without a license, and illegal advertising. The Snows are being held on $15,000 bail each. Stanley is being held on $40,000 bail, with the additional amount because a felony is alleged while he was free on bail from a previous Tulare County felony case. CSLB investigators began tracking Stanley this week after receiving tips that he was at work in Butte and Glenn Counties. This morning the trio was arrested without incident outside the Chico motel where they were staying. It is believed that the group has been working in the Chico, Paradise, and Orland areas for at least the past six weeks under the company name Porrero McLaughlin. A number of possible victims have already been identified, but CSLB investigators believe there are more. These consumers are encouraged to contact CSLB at (916) 255-2924. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8uBoKa01vk&feature=player_embedded Here is the youtube of the same guy in Idaho. Happy viewing.

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#6 General Comment

hahahahahahah

AUTHOR: a paver - (United States of America)

sounds good to mrs. g!??*#d
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

i think sandra is a stalker

AUTHOR: a paver - (United States of America)

is stalking not a crime
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

you don't always have all the facts rite

AUTHOR: a paver - (United States of America)

they are all good family men who all work in the same trade as my self and each other
how many family's teach their own kid there trade and stick with it six generations
i think it is admirable of the Stanley family to teach their  sons to work every day even if the phone dose not ring /put a load on and go for it .i was the American way it was called free enterprise /not its called a crime / come on we don't tell store how much to charge / or gas stations to stop raising prices /so all people choose where to work it not our fault if your job is in a building / that you cant move on when your cold and we can

and stop calling us gypsies


and ocean state paving from r.i is some one else

and how lives in Oregon?????
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#9 Author of original report

Looky here, even more bad news re:Joshua Stanley

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)







Selectmen OK reprieve for State Paving
By Barbara Polletta rockinghamnews@seacoastonline.com






Seacoastonline.com Classified Market Place www.seacoastclassifiedads.com KINGSTON - Selectmen agreed to hold off on a cease-and-desist order this week after the owners of a paving company assured the board that they have a plan to address state and local zoning violations.
Joshua Stanley, 39, owner of State Paving Co. and Commercial Industrial Paving, of 3 Old Coach Road, appeared before selectmen Monday night with his son, Thomas, 22, to argue that town officials should not shut down their family business because of zoning violations. Joshua said he has just completed a plan that addresses the regulations in question.
Joshua told selectmen that plans have been designed that will remedy the two major issues: a site plan review before the Planning Board for operating a business in a residential zone and addressing an unapproved driveway onto Route 125.
Selectmen decided to hold off on a cease-and-desist order until the father-son paving team has a chance to present its newly designed plans to the Planning Board.
"We just got the plans in-hand today, and we will be calling the Planning Board to get on their agenda for a review," the elder Stanley told selectmen.
Selectmen agreed that if the Stanleys proceed with steps to appear before the Planning Board, the cease-and-desist order should not be issued.
Selectmen Mark Heitz warned the men that they will not be put on this weeks Planning Board schedule given such short notice, but he wants to see their name on an upcoming meeting agenda.
The father-son paving team has been operating the business out of its residence at 3 Old Coach Road. Planning Board members requested selectmen assistance with a cease-and-desist order because they say the elder Stanley ignored a written warning about a required site plan approval for the business. Also at issue is a second driveway from the property onto Route 125.
According to documents from the state Department of Transportation (DOT), in July 2002, the department ruled that the Coach Road property was refused driveway access to Route 125 because of a local access-management plan that limits the number of driveways allowed on the highway.
Town officials say Stanley has ignored the letter from the DOT and has been using a dirt driveway he created onto Route 125.
Joshua told selectmen that he was not ignoring the requests, but that it took time to get plans drawn up to address the issues. He said the driveway access was necessary for his trucks to exit his business.
Selectmen warned that they will be monitoring if the elder Stanley follows through with scheduling an appearance before the Planning Board.
"We always want to hear what people have to say before we issue a cease-and-desist order," Heitz told the Stanleys. "However, I am the selectmens representative to the Planning Board, and I will be checking with them this week to make sure you place that call and are on their upcoming agenda for site plan review. This is something that must be followed through."
The Stanleys did not keep a scheduled meeting to discuss the site-plan violations with town officials earlier this month. They contend it was because they discussed their plans with Glenn Greenwood, a regional advisor from the Rockingham Planning Commission, and thought that selectmen knew of the steps they were taking to address the issues.
Arrested
In an unrelated case, Joshua and Thomas Stanley were arrested by state police on charges of running a paving scam in two northern communities. State police say the Stanleys have been charged with theft in connection to an alleged scam on homeowners in Milan and Berlin, N.H.
Police allege the two men completed their job, but paved much larger areas than agreed upon by the homeowners and then presented much larger bills than quoted for the work.
 
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#10 Author of original report

more information, just facts.

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

New vehicles replace State Paving vehicles, Asphalt Paving is new logo, also Mainewide Paving address of Joshua Stanley Junior 4 Meeks rd has been listed on Merchant Circle website with incorrect address of 4 Meak Kingston NH which is a ficticious address, Meeks is pretty close though!
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#11 Consumer Comment

More NH Stanley family members in trouble, hmm?

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

http://www.acorn-online.com/joomla15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32205:three-new-hampshire-men-arrested-in-paving-scam&catid=178:local-news&Itemid=1690&FORM=ZZNR3

More images and proof of dirty dealings.
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#12 Consumer Suggestion

Sorry senior, guess it was just your offspring.

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

http://www.nvcontractorsboard.com/News_Releases/2007/070820%20Traveling%20Contractor%20Cited%20In%20Reno.pdf
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#13 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Still no proof of YOUR experience with State Paving, Sandra you are a liar!!

AUTHOR: State Paving - (U.S.A.)

I, the owner and operator of State Paving, have repeatedly asked for proof of any kind that I or my company have done any of the specified work performed for you Sandra. You have repeatedly ingnored the question at hand, and you've repeatedly added other people into this discussion by saying or trying to affiliate me with others. Fact of the matter being Sandra, you are hiding behind this website like a coward and a sneak, knowing and willingly being deceptive towards me. As a result of these actions, I have personally retained an attorney to investigate and take legal actions against this site. In the process of sueing this site your identity can and will be subpoenaed and your identity will be revieled. Furthermore when I recieve these results, I will do whatever it takes to sue you for defamation of character and loss of wages. This is an outright lie and not even close to being a credible complaint. You cant even name the company you have dealt with or prove that you have dealt with any one company, you name several companys instead. You haven't proved in any way, shape or form that I have done YOUR job. Prove to me that I've done your job or I will be forced to pursue every avenue I can to bring this hoax to an end. I would like for you to end this on your own and stop interfering with my business. If you cannot give this proof then you are not willing to cooperate with these terms by posting a rebuttal to these false accusations towards my company. If you cannot meet these terms, then I and others on this site will know that you're a liar and a sneak. Prove to me when or where or how I have taken advantage of or ripped you off in any way. Why is it that you feel you need to say these things about me and my company? They are incorrect and misleading. I would also like to remind you and anyone else reading these posts, by your not replying with a rebuttal containing the proof that should go along with these FALSE accusations only proves that this is all just an act of jealousy and not you are not a credible person.
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

Sounds definitive to me

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

Well, i am going to get me driveway paved in Mass. and have read both sides. I can say that i am definitely not calling any of the mentioned. I believe the headlines tell the story and Sandra made her case.
Dan
Groveland Ma
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#15 Author of original report

Joshua Stanley? Proof enough for you, I am satisfied.

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

CSLB Press Release - 08/17/2007Northern California Unlicensed Contractor Alert
Unlicensed Paving Scammers Caught in Reno, Headed to California


SACRAMENTO The California Contractors State License Board (CSLB), working with Nevada State Contractors Board (NSCB) investigators and law enforcement, is warning California residents about an unlicensed paving company, using the name "State Paving". According to NSCB investigators, a group of nearly a dozen men have been operating for about a month in the west Reno area and have scammed dozens of residents and businesses. State Paving is not licensed to perform paving work in Nevada or California.


Joshua J. Stanley
Three of the men were detained last night and cited by the NSCB; the others scattered when law enforcement arrived. Joshua J. Stanley, 44, believed to be from Pennsylvania, is said to be the ring leader. Investigators believe the group may now attempt to bilk unsuspecting residents and businesses in California because of reports that the company has been purchasing up to four dump-truck loads of asphalt per day.

These traveling scam artists drive new vehicles, some towing pavers and rollers that are a bright orange color, and have six (6) new orange dump trucks. All vehicles have either Michigan or New Hampshire license plates. One of the operators who was cited last night for contracting without a license, Joshua J. Stanley II, 21, is possibly from Kingston, New Hampshire. The other two are identified as Michael Natola, 49, of Lynn, Massachusetts, and Hugo Rafael Baroa-Lopez, 31, of Salem, Massachusetts.

Traveling construction scammers are often members of extended families that move from town to town, usually targeting the elderly or recent immigrants who are likely to have financial resources or cash on site, and who may not understand what is being sold. They will knock on a homeowner's door or enter a business and offer to perform work with material they claim is left over from another job. After making a deal, the scam artist performs substandard, useless, or even destructive work. They quickly move on, often before the victims know they've been defrauded.

Not every door-to-door solicitor or family-owned business operates this way; however, the CSLB urges consumers to be suspicious of these red flags:

Unsolicited offers to do painting, roofing or paving work
Claims of left-over materials
High-pressure or scare tactics
Reluctance to sign a written contract
Demand for payment in cash
Brand new vehicles and out-of-state license plates
Toll-free telephone contact numbers instead of a local number
Consumers who believe they have information matching these individuals or who have come into contact with them can download a complaint form from the CSLB Website www.cslb.ca.gov. Before returning it, write in big letters "PAVING SCAM" at the top. If you see someone you believe may be one of these transient contractors, download a "Hot Lead Referral" form from the Website and fax it to CSLB immediately. More consumer information is available from the CSLB at www.cslb.ca.gov or by calling (800) 321-CSLB (2752).

The Contractors State License Board operates under the umbrella of the California Department of Consumer Affairs. The CSLB licenses and regulates California's 312,000 contractors, and investigates more than 20,000 complaints against contractors, annually. In fiscal year 2006-2007, the CSLB helped consumers regain nearly $45 million in restitution.
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#16 Author of original report

Looks like another concerned consumer may be taking heed...Yup, it's worth the time it took to write.

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

Please it appears the Stanley family of pavers spread far and wide at least on the East coast...based on reports by others as well, I am not alone in my little crusade.

Family, blood is thicker than water. Sucks. Most of my relatives are in jail for murder.
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#17 Consumer Comment

are you for real

AUTHOR: Lori - (U.S.A.)

I HAVE A LAWN ORNAMENT ON MY LAWN DOES THIS MAKE ME A CON-MAN . I THINK YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE IF YOU HAVE THE PROOF THEN STATE IT DON'T SAY SOMETHING SO RETARDED LIKE THEY HAVE LAWN ORNAMENTS ON THE LAWN SO THEY ARE ALL SCAMMER'S AND RELATED TO OTHER PEOPLE STAY ON THE SUBJECT AND PROVE YOUR CASE YOU SOUND INCREDIBLY STUPID!!!!! SANDRA WHAT IS YOUR FAMILY'S HISTORY IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO REPORT CAUSE WE CAN BRING YOU DOWN A LEVEL AND HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR FAMILIES MISHAP'S IF THIS IS THE CASE, STATE YOUR CASE AND STAY ON TRACK YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM SAY IT DON'T BRING OTHER PEOPLE INTO IT
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#18 Author of original report

Adressing Joshua Stanley: Are you stating that you are no relation to the Stanley families of Salem NH, Derry NH and Haverhill MA?

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

I extensively researched after my experience (my bad, should have researched before allowing any "work" to be performed) with the above named companies and this is the "proof" I gathered of State Paving's perhaps unfortunate family ties to crooks and criminals.

Owners of these companies appear to all possess strikingly similar "jockey" themed lawn ornaments from the same locale, in Derry.

So, all in all we have both learned from this haven't we? Consumers are not stupid, some of us have just trusted the wrong people (and we can't help who are relatives are either).

Local newspapers and city records have tons of useful information.
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#19 REBUTTAL Owner of company

State Paving is a reliable company..please come forward with PROOF 'Sandra'

AUTHOR: State Paving - (U.S.A.)

My name is Joshua Stanley, and I am the owner of State Paving located in Kingston, NH. I would like to take this oppurtunity to address this complaint and clear any doubts/allegations made towards State Paving.

State Paving is a reliable company with customer satisfaction in mind. All of our paving work is fully guaranteed for one year from the time of service. We have an outstanding business rating with the Better Business Bureau and we also have referances available on request and take pride in our company and workmanship. We can be contacted at statepaving@yahoo.com and also by phone at 603-642-3397. We strongly urge anyone doubting our authenticity to contact us or the Better Business Bureau.

**We do not understand why we have never been contacted by 'Sandra'. If we infact did provide 'Sandra' with services why has she never come forward? Also I would like 'Sandra' to come forward with any documentation that she has that links State Paving and ONLY State Paving to her, such as receipts, a contract, checks, etc. Unless 'Sandra' can provide these documents, I see no reason for this accusation against State Paving to be considered legitimate. Also I urge this alleged customer to come forward with her real name if she is using an alias, as we have no recollection or records of dealing with a Sandra from Salem, NH. This leads all at State Paving to believe that these statements set forth against the company (State Paving) to be false truths. I also strongly feel that if this person cannot come forward and provide any kind of proof, this blog/post should be removed from this site. I find it mind blowing that people can just post something on a website and show no proof that anything they are stating is true.**

State Paving is located at 3 Old Coach Road in Kingston, NH and is the only paving company located at this address. *We are not, nor have we ever been affiliated with the above named paving contrators, Pro Paving, Ace Paving, Massive Paving, etc. Therefore the said companys are not operated by the same people/family as the complaint (made by Sandra of Salem NH) states.* Furthermore IF State Paving provided services to this alleged customer/stated complainer, I am reaching out now to resolve any issues this alleged customer has with State Paving. As I have stated above we are not affiliated with any of the named paving companys and cannot act nor speak for them. State Paving has no knowledge of any grand larceny case and have not been included in any such case. If this grand larceny case took place, it is public knowledge and anyone can look into it. Sandra is very vague as to where the supposed job took place not even stating the town. I am also curious to know that info as well, if she has it at all. If this larceny case is real, State Paving once again, was not affiliated with any contractors that were involved with the 'little old lady scam' as she states.

I hope that anyone reading this report will find THIS post helpful in any decision making. We would hate to lose business based on heresay or someone who was treated badly by another company. I urge Sandra or whomever posted this complaint to please come forward and also for the Corporate Advocates to please take my rebuttal into consideration and help me take the necessary steps to restore my good business name.
Thank you,



Joshua J. Stanley
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#20 Consumer Comment

"muther" or MOTHER from ipswich ma

AUTHOR: Robyn H - (U.S.A.)

learn to read the site correctly....Sandra is the woman making these accusations. I only asked her to clarify her statements because I hired one of those companies on that list after seeing this report and I did not have a problem with them. I find it odd that someone is taking the time to dig all this information up without any real proof. If Sandra does have proof or was a customer I just wanted to know. So as far as I'm concerned YOU'RE out of line and need to read more carefully.
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#21 Consumer Comment

umm excuse me!!! way out of line robyn

AUTHOR: Your Muther - (U.S.A.)

excuse me robyn h i am the family of the woman and baby that died and you shouldent make any comments about someone you know nothing about! thats plain bullshit! so to just let you know if any of their company vehicles were involved in any accidents, it was just that an accident! furthermore your not now going to say that a paving scam has anything to do with the asshole poke at the woman and baby, that woman was a mother,wife,daughter,sister and church going woman a good person you'll never have the pleasure of knowing
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#22 Consumer Comment

How did you find this out?

AUTHOR: Robyn H - (U.S.A.)

Hello. I have hired one of the mentioned companies and I was wondering how did you find this out? Have you had a bad experience with any of the companies above or is this just things that you have heard? Who was charged in that grand larceny case? I just wanted some more details on this your statements are a little vague.
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#23 Consumer Comment

How did you find this out?

AUTHOR: Robyn H - (U.S.A.)

Hello. I have hired one of the mentioned companies and I was wondering how did you find this out? Have you had a bad experience with any of the companies above or is this just things that you have heard? Who was charged in that grand larceny case? I just wanted some more details on this your statements are a little vague.
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#24 Author of original report

New dirty business names

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

Ace paving ...yet another relative, and Massive Paving (seen in news article related to death of young late term pregnancy mother and baby (run over by Massive Paving pick up truck...sad but can not help but say Hmmm... ) Suspect/driver of truck is directly liknked (same adress 18 cross st salem nh ) as a conman who ripped off an elderly woman in news article mentioned in the news, also prosecuted in Florida Seminole county in unrelated incident.
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