• Report: #658630

Complaint Review: the classic auto depot

  • Submitted: Thu, November 04, 2010
  • Updated: Fri, April 15, 2011

  • Reported By: vic — independence Missouri United States of America
the classic auto depot
152-53 10th av whitestone, New York United States of America

the classic auto depot robert j hernandez i bought a 2007 honda pilot from this scammers and they where in conection whith shipping driver so they took the car and the money two month after still fighting to get the law involve;law said it's whitestone, New York

*Author of original report: what a shame!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Follow Up!!!

*Consumer Comment: LIAR! SCAMMER!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Robert Hernandez's Contact Info

*Author of original report: OTHER NAME SAME RATS THE ROAD2UTOS

*Consumer Comment: it's not your computer...

*Author of original report: NOT SPAMS OR VIRUSES ALLOWED!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: phone number

*Author of original report: pets on the loose

*Author of original report: pests on the loose!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: my contact info

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: not suprised

*Author of original report: ROBERT HERNANDEZ IS JUST A PEST !

*Consumer Comment: Roberto J. Hernadez is a big time scam

*Author of original report: RONNY G

*Consumer Comment: uhhh...Joe the idiot...

*Author of original report: ROBERT J HERNANDEZ SCAMING AND MANIPULATING

*General Comment: Real good advice Ronny G

*Author of original report: rodeo clawns

*Author of original report: robert j hernandez and partners

*Consumer Comment: If you have the title..

*Author of original report: scammers on the loose

*Consumer Comment: Question..

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my wife who is going throw a high risk pregnancy needed a bigger car,talked to her family in NY to look for a car in NY since i did not have tiime to do it cause i was working long HRS;so one day while her father was working at a tire shop he saw robert hernandez driving a 2007 honda pilot whith a for sale sigh they talked about the sale,two days later her brother went to the dealer and seal was done he got the papers for the car robert got his money;the delivery driver loaded the car on sep 16 2010 the driver kept lying about how long was going to be before getting to my house 13 days after we told the driver that we were gonna call the police and then he confessed that he never had the car that robert still had the car since then robert have my 13125.00 and the car and can not get the detectives to open a fraud case against this thieft i have a civil lawsuit against this guy ;I CAN'T BELIEVE THE JUSTICE.

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#1 Author of original report

what a shame!

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

keep running is good for your health scumbags!
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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Follow Up!!!

AUTHOR: coronabrokers - (United States of America)

So you invested $19600.00, and received $21600.00 back. Sweet. Why?
You called the owner of the car, and explained that we sold you the car for $19600.00, he explained that he wanted $28000.00, you explained that, we mentioned that we will pay the additional $9000.00, for the misunderstanding, but he said no,,, he wont allow us to pay an additional $9000.00, for someone we do not know, who is Todd, he says? Who is Todd?
We respond, Todd is a good client, we already paid for his flight, and shipment here are the bank receipts, we dont care about the $9000.00, loss, lets just satisfy client. He says no, and is strictly no, dont pay for Todd.
Meanwhile we offer you the $9000.00, and give you $2000.00, towards it, did you forget what is the fax # to show you wire receipt.
You however say F___ these guys, they are spics, low lives,liers ,ass___. I got my monies back, pluis $ 2000 , they owe me $7000.00, more let me bury, kill them completely. I will ruin there reputation, and make sure they will never sell car again.
Congraluations!!! YOU WON.
We resign!! We keep all lines of communication open, you text,email or call we respond immediately,, strange,, arent we scammer?? Whatever, thank you Todd, for expressing your self online, I am sure you will continue, as an Inspector or Todd, however to no avail, you have shut us down completly, one other fellow had us 80% done, and we kept going, but you satisfied the job.
We are officially unemployed, all 7 of us, reason why I could not answer your text, in a timely manner, you started of the month, for all of us.
Once again, we regret any wrong doing and thank you for your time and candor!
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#3 Consumer Comment

LIAR! SCAMMER!

AUTHOR: Inspector - (USA)

Grifter never go out of business.  Too many chumps out there.
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Robert Hernandez's Contact Info

AUTHOR: Todd - (United States of America)

Since the office closed Robert Hernandez has asked me to contact me on his cell phone.  He stated that he will always take the call, no matter what time of day I call.  Since it appears this is now is business number, he can be reached at 718-578-8812.

Since he chose not to reimburse me, I had to file a claim on insurance.  He is still claiming he is going to pay me.  Everyday is a new lie, I truly think this guy is pathological.

My story is on 12/3/2010, I wired him $19,000 to purchase a car.  He told me he shipped it, and he spent the next 30 days fabricating new lies that the car was in transit.  He even had delivery drivers colluding on his lies.  Then once he gets caught, he decides to fabricate new lies and blame it on his partner.  Well, the truth was he was never even in possession of the car he sold me.  It was purportedly on consignment, but the vehicle owner states that he had rescinded the arrangement prior to my purchase, and Robert never told him that I wired him the money.

Then he claims he is going to wire me my money back and instead, without my approval or any discussion he starts wiring measley meaningless installments.  Now is had even stopped those.

This is a bad guy.  He will try and tell you everything is a misunderstanding.  The only thing he misunderstands is how to act honestly and ethically. 
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#5 Author of original report

OTHER NAME SAME RATS THE ROAD2UTOS

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

STILL NO MONEY I,M NOT A LOAN COMPANY !

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#6 Consumer Comment

it's not your computer...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

..it is this site..did you not see the notice they leave why the numbers and web addresses are redacted?

So, be "smarter" then the system.

If you are brave enough to leave your personal info here such as phone numbers or emails...do it as such..example, a phone number..

five two five five two two five five five five..

or an email... getthescammers (at) hotmail (dot) com.

Pretty slick...eh???
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#7 Author of original report

NOT SPAMS OR VIRUSES ALLOWED!

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

ALL MY COMPUTERS  ARE FIREWALLED AND HAVE ANTIVIRUS PROTECTION SO YOU MAY HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER REPORT AND PUT YOU CONTACT # EMAIL ADRESS ON IT, THAT'S IF YOU WANT TO SHARE SOME INFO ABOUT THIS MATTER AS I SAID BEFORE I'LL HELP YOU IN ANYTHING I CAN TO HELP YOU  BUT I'LL KEEP PUSHING ,REPORTING,AND GOING TO THE PRECINT UNTILL SOMEBODY GET TIRED OF WATCHING MY FACE AND PUT THIS THIEFT IN JAIL!
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#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds

phone number

AUTHOR: salviamonster - (USA)

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#9 Author of original report

pets on the loose

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

 I normally resolved my problems alone but i'll listen maybe you know something that i don't know that may help me to resolve this matter.
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#10 Author of original report

pests on the loose!

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

It's ok! laws in NY have too many loop holds and this rat knows all of then write your phone# and i'll get back to you sometime, he have his hands tighten, keep watching the news his case will burts one of this date this rat have a long tale and a lot of people are stepping on it, it's just a matter of time before justice catch up with him!

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#11 REBUTTAL Individual responds

my contact info

AUTHOR: salviamonster - (USA)

(((Redacted)))and you can ask for shaun and i will send you my lawyers info to really get this one going!!!! I dont care about the money or the car i wanna see him in prison and I can do that with more people!


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#12 REBUTTAL Individual responds

not suprised

AUTHOR: salviamonster - (USA)

read my response online also and everyone else!!! were going to get this guy!
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#13 Author of original report

ROBERT HERNANDEZ IS JUST A PEST !

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR WHAT I SEE THEY'RE JUST GETTING PAY TO PROMOTE CRIMES ,THE RAT HERNANDEZ IT'S JUST A PEST THAT THEY WONT MAKE ANY MONEY IF THEY THROW HIM IN JAIL I GUARANTY YOU HE'S LIVING OF THE GOV; TAX PAYING PEOPLE GETTING FOOD STAMPS AND HOUSING AND MOST LIKELY BUYING HIS CLOTHES AT GOOD WILL SO HE CAN DO HIS NIGHT TIME JOB "TRAVESTY" HE SAY HE COMING TO MY HOUSE NEXT WEEK TO RESOLVE THIS PRBLEM AS A MEN; I GUESS THAT MEAN HE'LL CHANGE HIS UNDERWEAR AND CAN WAIT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN  I WILL SHOW HOW PEST ARE TREATED ;I HAVE A LITTLE BE OF CHEESE FOR THAT STINKY RAT~!  YOU HEARD ME RATA HERNANDEZ I'M WAITING FOR YOU!
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#14 Consumer Comment

Roberto J. Hernadez is a big time scam

AUTHOR: AH - (United States of America)

I am also a victim of Roberto J Hernandez scam. He scammed me in Septemeber 1 st 2010. I bought an altima 2009 for 11,000 dollar from him. I could not even drive off from his lot with the car, and found out fuel tank was broken. After 3 months he refunded me 7,000 dollars so far. He was refunding a little amount at a time.

Him and his partners are very smart criminals. They really know how to play with people. They still playing with me for 4,000 dollars. Promising evvery day but never keeps the promises.

I even took them to the TV PIX11 News Help Me Howard.  You can check the video in youtube. Type: PNJ Auto Dealer. And I also filed a report in this site. I am allerting every one, please be careful when u want to buy a car. Dont be the victim of Roberto J Hernandez, Chris or his partners.

I still do not understand, after he has been scamming whole lot of people, still he is not arrested or thrown in jail. Why??????

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#15 Author of original report

RONNY G

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

the report is totally truth from top TO botton . that was the scamer that post that coment that's why i wrote back robert hernandez scaming and manipulating,we're dealing with a lifetime expierenced guy in scaming and robbiing people and for the record about 'THIS POOR GUY'  i did not have to steal that money to buy a present for my wife ,let see if you can do the same MR ROBERT HERNANDEZ SEWER RAT!
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#16 Consumer Comment

uhhh...Joe the idiot...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

Did you actually read this report before responding???... or did you just decide to respond to me personally using your right to be ignorant???

I asked the OP if they held the title..the OP responded that they do.

So..if someone PAID for a vehicle..and holds the title..you would think in all logic and sound reasoning they are the LEGAL OWNER of the vehicle.

If the vehicle is supposed to be delivered and NEVER arrived...do you think perhaps it would be considered STOLEN? I guess you could use the term "missing" as well...but who else better to report a "missing" vehicle to then the police?

Unless of course the report is a total farce????
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#17 Author of original report

ROBERT J HERNANDEZ SCAMING AND MANIPULATING

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

you right JOE  you must knows how the robery happened we tested drive the car, pay the money receive the  title and bill of sale and send the car with the driver to MO but little that we knew the supposed shipping driver was robert hernandez partner  chris polanco but since there was contract betwen all america transport (shipping compay with good reputation) and us, we comfirmed with then and have proof that the car was going to be shipped. SO if you think that we never had possetion of the car it's your sole oppinion,and since you know so much about the law; what do you think will happen to this scammer at the end? jail or would he get awy with it?
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#18 General Comment

Real good advice Ronny G

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

        Real good advice Ronny G!!! Why in the world would you tell this poor guy to file a false police report?? How could the vehicle be stolen when he never had possession of it to begin with?? Here is some advice for you Ronny G, stop giving advice before you get someone in serious trouble!!
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#19 Author of original report

rodeo clawns

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

DON'T buy from  this rodeo clawns CLASSIC AUTO DEPOT (ROBERT HERNANDEZ AND CHRIS  COWER) MELLY AUTO SALES (RUBEN BAEZ,ROBERT HERNANDEZ, CHRIS COWER) THE MAY BETTER RUNNING 100 METTERS THAN SCAMMING PEOPLE
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#20 Author of original report

robert j hernandez and partners

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

he told police that he cancel the sale due to mecanical problems but my bid of sale said sold as it is. but i'm not stressing out about it ,i'm a happy camper that will get justice at the end, i,m more worry about others inocents people that were scammed before me , maybe inlegal inmigrants that are hiding afraid of being pracecuted for their status . this guy has plenty of experience robbing peoples he knows the in and out of the scam bussines. and the police can play dumb any time they have to go out and work . this guy even ask for the title to be returned so he can resale the car,we're working in a deal were he will get all his paperwork and i'll get my peace of mind back.I showed him some of those paper and i'm very sure he wants the rest of them.
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#21 Consumer Comment

If you have the title..

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

Report the vehicle stolen. There is no playing with the law. The title holder is the legal owner, period. It does not matter if the scammer is making small payments.

Unless some information is being left out?
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#22 Author of original report

scammers on the loose

AUTHOR: vic - (United States of America)

yes i do have the title signed ,but this scam artist knows how to play with the laws. now he's making small payments so he does not get prosecuted.
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#23 Consumer Comment

Question..

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

..I am not doubting you were ripped off. But when you paid for the Honda did the seller sign the title and give it to you?
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