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Complaint Review: TOP Marketing Group (Chicago) - Chicago Illinois

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  • TOP Marketing Group (Chicago) 5504 Lawrence Ave Chicago, Illinois USA

TOP Marketing Group ,Chicago, The Over All Picture Marketing Group.Hector MarunHector is also the president of Unlimited Marketing Services Corpand unlimited marketing services Pyramid Scheme, Ripoff,Money Sharing, Commission only, Face to Face Sales, Door to Door Sales,Run away Chicago Illinois

*Consumer Comment: T.O.P. Marketing Group is now Unlimited Consulting Group

*Consumer Comment: RTMG

*Author of original report: Here's a review of another of the T.O.P Offices

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Summary: I found an Ad on Craigslist, Fresh out of College and on my way to Graduate School. Once you apply for the job, you receive an email like this. (Posted at the bottom) You get a phone call from an Administrative Assistant. They say your interview is tomorrow, and you have to dress Business Casual.

 

Day One the Interview: They Ask to arrive at the Company about twenty (20) minutes prior to your scheduled interview time. You fill-out a paper application and give them a copy of your resume. About 15 to 20 minutes later, Hector Marun the man in charge of the particular office of T.O.P. MARKETING GROUP comes out and introduces himself. About 45 minutes later he comes back out and says you we have to wait, because a few interviewees are running late. Why wait on them you ask? Why not just interview those of us whom arrived early and have been here for nearly an hour, and interview the others when they arrive or another time? Well, there's an answer for that. The reason is that the interview is conducted with Hector, and about 4 or 5 other potential employees, for about 15 minutes. Here's how it works, You all sit in Hector's office One by one he asks you your last few jobs or your most recent level of education completed. He then tells you a little about the Company's background and Mission. Basically the difference between them and other marketing Companies is they do Face to Face Sales (meaning Door to Door Sales) Any questions about sales- He'll keep it Frank. Pun intended. You'll receive a phone call either that day or the next day if you made the cut That's about it interview wise.

 

Day Two the training:  Congratulations, welcome to the world of Marketing. The " Formal Training" starts around 12:00 or 12:30 and lasts until around 6:15 in the afternoon. Basically, for the first 3 or 4 hours, all Hector talks about is himself and how he's rich and you're poor, but you can get rich too if you come and work for him. Did I mention it's a commission only job? What I didn't??? This is when you find out it's a commission only job, with no base pay or benefits. Oh yeah, you're also not an employee, you're an IC or Independent Contractor. What's the difference? Basically, it means you work for yourself and you're the boss of yourself. Not true. Then reason it's not true is because the company controls your job and how you do said job. Finally, he's done talking about his life lets get to the actual "training"

Ok now you learn that you're selling gas and electricity for IGS Energy an approved Supplier. Nod and smile :-) Everytime I think about this it makes me laugh because its part of the verbatim script ( Another reason you’re not no an IC) I'll add a snippet of the script later

Here are the levels of the pyramid I mean the company and what you will make Per sale

1.) You're a representative you make $18 per sale for Electricity and $25 for gas You have to make 40 sales in one week in order to make leader

2.) You become a leader and you make $18 per sale for Electricity and $25 for gas there are other requirements if I can find my notes I'll add them later

3. You're now a team leader and you make $20 Electricity and $27 for gas

There are lots more positions, if I can find my notes I'll add them later.

Day Three your First day in "The Field": Finally, it's to start making some money right ad? Well, you thought wrong and I'll tell you why in just a little while. The day starts off and with you coming to the office around 9:00AM. You finally get to meet your team (the co workers who will train and guide you they've been here for a while). During this mornings meeting he introduces the staff to the new people who just completed yesterdays training. You WILL have mandatory meetings For about an hour, we talk about how commission only is better than a typical 9-5 job, how Hector is on the island of opportunity and how we can get to the island if we keep working for him. There's a lot of pep and things for example It's sort of like the locker room before the state championship there's screaming and kicking and chanting. Finally, we go to our team's car and we get ready to make some money :). Oh no, no one told me I wouldn't be getting paid for the very first day and the only one getting paid is the team leader :'(. You do start getting paid after you get the pitch down and can do it really well. Finally, after all that we're making some money Well, no surprise here your team leader get a percentage of everything you make.

Week Two: This is when you learn the a bad thing about solicitation. You need a permit to solicit and guess who pays for it when you get a ticket, YOU DO. in Aurora, the First ticket for solicitation in 2013 last was $100 first ticket and $750 second I’ll add an example at the end. During the training, you were told you cannot lie to people. One day Three with our team leader we learn this is a lie. The company’s term for lying is called slamming. My first day in the field, we “slammed” just about every single customer. Things like did you get the notice from comed or your neighbors are doing it, you should jump on the bandwagon.

Aurora City Clerk Peddlers List published December 2013.

 

Date, Business Name, Type of Business, Business Address. Contact Name, Solicitor's Name

20-Dec-13

 

2/13/2013 T.O.P. Marketing, IGS energy supplier, 5504 W. Lawrence Ave., Chicago, IL Hector Marun [Solicitor's Name]

Lee David Kim

2/13/2013T.O.P. Marketing, IGS energy supplier, 5504 W. Lawrence Ave., Chicago, IL Hector Marun [Solicitor's Name]

3/11/2013 T.O.P. Marketing, IGS energy supplier, 5504 W. Lawrence Ave., Chicago, IL Hector Marun [Solicitor's Name]

3/11/2013 TT.O.P. Marketing, IGS energy supplier, 5504 W. Lawrence Ave., Chicago, IL Hector Marun [Solicitor's Name]

3/11/2013 T.O.P. Marketing, IGS energy supplier, 5504 W. Lawrence Ave., Chicago, IL Hector Marun [Solicitor's Name]

3/11/2013 T.O.P. Marketing, IGS energy supplier, 5504 W. Lawrence Ave., Chicago, IL Hector Marun [Solicitor's Name]

 

https://www.aurora-il.org/documents/cityclerk/peddlers_list_2013.pdf

Script Sample

Hi I’m from IGS an Approved Supplier [Nod and Smile]. They Sent me here to make sure You’re [Point at customer] Doing your part to help save the environment [Point up and rotate finger]. Did You [ Point at customer again]  know the number one cause of industrial air pollution is the way they make electricity [Pull out binder and make circles with finger to show fossil fuels] So it’s real simple, all I need you to do is grab a copy of your Comed bill it looks just like this[ turn binder to other side and show them Comed bill sample] I don't’ even need to come in I can wait right here [Step back at an angle open binder and pretend to look busy]

Email For the Company for the interview

 

T.O.P. MARKETING GROUP

5504 W. Lawrence Ave., Chicago, IL. 60630

(773) 685-4070

 

Good Evening  [Your Name]

We’ve received your resume and would like to start by saying Thank You for your interest in a position with T.O.P ! We have been working diligently to assemble a great team in Chicago and hope that you may be the next asset to our team!

Now a little more about Who We Are:

T.O.P was founded on the principal; that with an immense amount of dedication, creativity and hard work an individual can excel at whatever they put their minds to.  We have a proven system of success for those who put in the effort. We were founded by a group of diverse and eclectic minds, who worked their way from the “mail room” to the “executive board” and have brought their combined decades of marketingexperience under one roof to form one of the most successful independently owned marketing firms in the Nation.

What are we looking for?

Contact Agents – FULL TIME ONLY

Sales Reps- both full time and part time

Management Training Program – FULL TIME ONLY

What’s Next?

We'd like to set up some time for you to come to our North Side office and speak to a Hiring Manager so that we can discuss the positionsand your skills in detail.

We are in the office Monday-Friday 10am -4pm. Please give us a call and we can find a time that works for both our schedules.

Thanks for your interest! We look forward to speaking with you soon.

 

Administrative Assistant

 

My Final Thought:  There are pros and cons of the company

Pros There were team and office nights where everyone one the team or in that office would get together and do things together. It was kind of like a family (every family has lies and secrets) You can earn good money but it can be very hard. Off on Sundays

Cons No base pay or benefits. Its extremely hard to move up to a management position in the company The hours are terrible You come into the office at around 10AM sometimes 10:30AM and sometimes earlier for those mandatory meetings you usually get back to the office and then get to go home at around 9pm Monday-Friday and around 6 on Saturdays you’re off on Sundays(Con to some people)


If you don’t mind working up to 70 hours a week with no guaranteed pay, this is the job for you, if not don’t even bother going to the interview

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#3 Consumer Comment

T.O.P. Marketing Group is now Unlimited Consulting Group

AUTHOR: Samantha - (United States)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 25, 2018

Same pyramid schemes, just different name. T.O.P. Marketing Group is now Unlimited Consulting Group. Run by the same people. New website, uncginc.com, new ads on Craigslist with wild promises, fast recruitment practices, so you don't have time to look them up and what they actually do and see all the Red flags.

New location in wicker park. Still run by Hector Marun.

Stay away. 

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#2 Consumer Comment

RTMG

AUTHOR: Giselle - ()

POSTED: Friday, August 29, 2014

I was just looking at their website and the 2 things that grabbed my attention were:  from the employee group photo, it appears a requirement for males is to own an ill-fitting suit and for women, is to be overweight. The one female in the black pants/purple shirt/too small jacket (who looks like she is smelling her finger), also appears to have pants that are WAY too tight in the crotch. I won't finish that sentence, but I think the reader will understand where I was going with that!  It is quite an unprofessional photo, that includes the likes of a girl in a black shirt with an extra stomach roll and she is wearing heels with her jeans. LOL. Thumbs up to the guy in the back that clearly is ducking his head. Yeah, I don't blame him.

Second thing I noticed was the reviews. It would be logical to expect the reviews would come from satisfied clients and customers. Ummm, no. The two reviews are both from employees. Huh? 

 

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Here's a review of another of the T.O.P Offices

AUTHOR: Truthseeker - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, August 27, 2014

 

This is the Rocky T.O.P Marketing Group Knoxville TN: This company is simply a muti-level marketing SCHEME. They will tell you its a entry level marketing job but it is door to door selling. On the second interview they will tell you that you are going to see presentation for SIX HOURS and dress business professional, what you are really doing is walking around neighborhoods knocking on doors trying to sell cable products, not getting paid. Its a job that any high school drop out could do, dont be fooled. Strait comission, no benefits, you will be lucky if you can make a few hundred dollars a week on your gas expense.

If you notice, It's the aame Scheme to get you in as the Chicago Office. The "Second Interview" is the same. There's the same comission only and no benefits.

This was Written anonymously: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Rocky-Top-Marketing-Group/Knoxville-Tennessee-37921/Rocky-Top-Marketing-Group-Door-to-Door-Selling-Multi-Level-Marketing-Scheme-Knoxville-T-815070

 

#4 Consumer Comment

The Actual Truth About RTMG

AUTHOR: KTOWN - (United States of America)

Rocky Top Marketing Group lures people in  with well written ads that make working there sound good. They make it seem like you are entering their "Manager Training Program," and will one day become a manager. However, the only way you can become a manager is if you, some day, have the money to open up a new location in another city and trick other people into selling cable for you. I believe RTMG is some kind of pyramid scheme, they move from city to city selling cable until they have saturated the market. While you work there you work off 100% commission and you will be lucky to even make minimum wage. The only reason I know this was that I was stupid enough to go for an interview. I will never make that mistake again, it was terrible! I just feel like I should warn other people so they will not make the mistake I did. Also, I can about guarantee that the positive rebuttals on this site are written by RTMG. They are extremely manipulative! Do not fall for their tricks!

 

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Rocky-Top-Marketing-Group/Knoxville-Tennessee-37921/Rocky-Top-Marketing-Group-Door-to-Door-Selling-Multi-Level-Marketing-Scheme-Knoxville-T-815070

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