• Report: #226743

Complaint Review: tune97

  • Submitted: Fri, December 22, 2006
  • Updated: Sun, April 01, 2007

  • Reported By:southern California
tune97
Http://www.tune97.com/ Http://www.tune97.com/, Internet, Nationwide U.S.A.

tune97.com SWITCH AND BAIT - tune97.com Inernet

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Some one is filing false reports.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Re:

*Author of original report: RE Re

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Response to allegations regarding Tune97.com

*Author of original report: the owner of that company that is exploiting kids talents

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i was contacted by a mutual friend about this guy that needed a producer that could be willing to listen to the cleints musc and see about a possible record deal. i said fine. so it all started the nightmare. day one he contacts me 2 times i told him he had some good clients, day 2: he contacts me I asked what he needed he said nothing, told him I am very busy, day 3 the s**t hits the fan: not only he wants me to pay $10,000.00 that was never agreed to but he wants the cleints to pay $3,000.00 and that was never in his terms and condidition, he is uset that I wont give him my trade secrets, he is upset that I am busy and now he thinks I am a scam for having a PBX system but he calls it 4 answering machines. here is the aucital chat transcript from Yahoo messanger:

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s s: good idea
paul anthony: you get the update
s s: yes that Gypsy might be signing
paul anthony: All I am authorized to say on that is Yes she said she is signing
s s: So how does itwork after signing when the singer is in different state or country, how does it go from there
s s: i mean steps leading to making out the cd
paul anthony: you will get your 5% dont worry about how it works, I need some information form you to put into my database
s s: Are you going to meet her
s s: No i want to learn....
s s: curious
paul anthony: that information is a trade secrete if you want it then get a cashier check made payable to:xxxxxxxxxfor the sum of $25,499.95
s s: lol k
paul anthony: I need your comapny full legal name, address
paul anthony: federal tax id for tax purposes
paul anthony: sending you a from right now rbrb
paul anthony: brb
paul anthony: without this information we cannot pay you
s s: well payment must be atleast 6-9 months away, so why such a rush for that info?
You have sent 1 file to s s.
fw9.pdf

paul anthony: because i need to add it to the database
paul anthony: i have to add it to her contract file
s s: i dont have all that info i will give you as soon as i get it
paul anthony: you work out of your house and dont know that information. (j/k)
s s: well you dont need my tax id to put in the contract , yes you can put the legal name ofthe company which you need which is Tune97.com LLC
paul anthony: IRS says i do need it
s s: Well let me take a look at the form you send me and with my lawyer and , let me talk to my lawer then i will give you all the info
paul anthony: its a irs form
paul anthony: he will tell you the same thing
paul anthony: and your wife is your attorney you said
s s: yes
s s: let me talk to her she is not home now
paul anthony: i dont care if you get paid or not...
s s: ?
s s: well i care lol
paul anthony: just make sure i have it within 7 days
s s: k
paul anthony: that includes weekends and holidays
s s: Well dont give me deadlines
s s: without my consentyou cant talk to my singers
s s: i dont need your money, if you behave like this
paul anthony: I always work on deadlines
s s: Dont try to play with me
paul anthony: and I am being nice i always have, ask USMC he will tell you this is how i work
paul anthony: and talk
paul anthony: and type
paul anthony: i think yuour reading to much into the chat
s s: Well i dont know yet , i cant give out all my tax id info like that. I am not stupid..... I need to verify your business first.....
s s: I trust you butyou have to understandmy position and anyways to put in the contract withthe singers you dont need W9 form, i will take some days to verify thiings
paul anthony: that is why I am giving you a week
paul anthony: you can verify everything form the internet
paul anthony: in fact I can give you direct links
s s: I am highly educated person, My education is way more then it takes to do PHD
s s: Not any other guy sitting on the internet
s s: k
s s: that would be appreciated
paul anthony: let me get you link to city business license
s s: k
paul anthony: Next month the business license is going to show C Corp
paul anthony: city refused to change it over tell Jan
paul anthony: any questisons
paul anthony: do you need to see our business license in every state as well?
s s: k, well thats fine but i still do not understand why you need my Tax ID in such a hurry.....The singer has not even signed the contract, It may take a year to make a CD...You can put my tax id whenever you want...then why such a rush, that doesnt smell right
paul anthony: I told you as per our agreement that your 5% is going to be over 8k with all 4 artist singers signed and is going to fax back tomorrow.
paul anthony: i told you earlier that from tommorrow-Sept 07 i wont be around
s s: For the contract, My company legal name is enough
s s: ???? what do u mean? you wont be around?
paul anthony: If I issue you a check for $10,000.00 in the future and i dont have it I can go to jail
paul anthony: we issued xxx service a check for $xx,xxx.00
ss: can I have Your tax ID?
paul anthony: they had no problem filling out their federal tax id number
paul anthony: i am not asking for your Social Security number i dont want that dont need it
paul anthony: sure I will give you my tax id right now brb
paul anthony: are u ready?
s s: You need me to give you my tax ID and you wont be around for a year then? what are youtalking about? Who will be my company dealing with?
paul anthony: 34-1661185
s s: no why would i need your tax id?
paul anthony: that is what you asked for
s s: no i never did
paul anthony: I have 89 Employees, 2 CPA'S and a team of attorneys that advises me on every move
s s: are you saying you would notbe onlinefrom tomorrow till sept 2007 ?
paul anthony: that is right
paul anthony: one of my assistant will be, but I wont
s s: then why should i do busniess with you ifyou are not going to be talking tome?
s s: to me
s s: i dont understand you sorry
s s: i think you are just playing games
paul anthony: what is their not to understand. I am the President of xxxxxxxx, i do a lot of travleing
s s: yaa right.....but that doesnt make a man diappears for a year
s s: s
paul anthony: and i have 89 employees in my payroll to make sure the job gets done and done right , i have 2 CPA's and a team of attorneys
paul anthony: I have to go to the U.K., then to NY, then to Ohio, then to Paris, then to Fl, then to san fransico
s s: Well you told me before please dont try to impress me any more, This ismy hobby, My real company has 500 employees, bach of lawerys , but i am a humble person and dont boost off
paul anthony: then i get a 3 week break and it starts all over again
paul anthony: you asked me why I was disappering for a year
s s: i dont need your money, its my hobby...If you want to deal with our tune97.com. you have to act like a real person, well i can bet i am four times more things to do then you but i dont act the way you are acting
s s: andi dont disappear for a year
s s: Well have a good night, there is some thing not right about your whole story
paul anthony: i am sorry if i was not able to give you attention today or yesterday. but I am a very busy person...
s s: I dont need your attention,
paul anthony: ask USMC THEN ABOUT ME do a google search on my company
paul anthony: I am a world wide company
s s: Well no point, if i cant talk to you anymore
paul anthony: i said if you need me to e-mail me
s s: Well we will see,
paul anthony: but you messagte me and then say you do not need anyting
paul anthony: that is a waist of my time.
s s: never mind
s s: night
paul anthony: u going to discconect my account?
paul anthony: or still active?
s s: Please do not try to message or discuss with any of my singers.....You have got me very suspicious about you....I want good for my singers, i have to to legal investigation on your company to make sure it is not fraud...to prevent my clients from the deception....Until i complete my investigation , do not proceed with any contact or record deals
paul anthony: i will and their is nothing you an do about it
paul anthony: if I was a fraud why am I going to the Grammy awards, why can i get my cleints music into stores world wide, and top major Mp3 websites, radio paly
paul anthony: what is wrong you have no idea about how the music world works and you suspect i am afraud becuase you dont udnerstand
s s: Well thats what you say, Any looney can come and say this bullshit
s s: on the internet
paul anthony: i asked if you checked me out and you said yes
paul anthony: let me show you this then
s s: Well checked out yes and what i found
paul anthony: another thing you can veriy
paul anthony: http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?mode=search
s s: An office with 4 answeringservices and the web site which is not even made and a company which got a license this month,
s s: Everything smells big time
paul anthony: xxxxxxx copy and past that,,, then select publisers and then hit enter
paul anthony: it is not a answreing macine it is a PBS system
paul anthony: and each extension rings into a different office. 1 rinks into florida 1 rings inot california 1 rings into ny
paul anthony: PBX system
s s: Any onecanjoin ASCAP so whats thebig deal?
paul anthony: no not anyone
paul anthony: not as a publiser
s s: look here http://www.ascap.com/about/howjoin.html
s s: seems pretty easy to join,
paul anthony: i know that but they deny mroe applcation then they apprive
paul anthony: what are you going to tell the clients that I was in the middle of talking to?
paul anthony: is this truly best for your cleints
paul anthony: i am the real deal. if you dont understand a PBX system i am sorrry all big companies uses it
s s: How long are you in this business?
paul anthony: 3 years started out in San Diego
paul anthony: moved it to anaheim
s s: 3 years is nothing, authentic people are in for years
paul anthony: and we are opening an office in the UK
paul anthony: i started my label 3 years ago. and i can do the same thing as sony emi univeral
paul anthony: i grew up in a family of major artist
s s: What a guy who is in this business for only 3 years doing ingrammy awards
s s: ??
s s: nothing make sense
paul anthony: want to see the e-mail that I got from the Grammy awards?
s s: sure
paul anthony: brb
paul anthony: will i find out i can share with you that is for public eyes what can i clear up for you
paul anthony: has to find an e-mail that is for public eye
s s: k
paul anthony: in the mean time what can I clear up for you?
paul anthony: found an old eevent
paul anthony: e-mail address please
s s: panth15477@aol.com
paul anthony: sent
paul anthony: so what can i clear up for you
paul anthony: why i am so hard noised?
paul anthony: why i have no time to chit chat?
s s: no why u smell full of belony lol
paul anthony: what makes you say that?
paul anthony: you must have a reason?
s s: where is your email? i didnt get it
paul anthony: give it time AOL IS SLOW when it comes from a domain
paul anthony: takes about 2 or 3 min to reach aol. they need to add more pop servers
paul anthony: so why do you think I smell fishy for?
paul anthony: or belonie for
paul anthony: one artist on your stie I am offering her 1 million dollar sign on bonus just waiting for her reply again
s s: Well we need to talk on phone and i need todo some more investigations if you need to do business withus
s s: lol
paul anthony: your a wanna be sorry you dont have a clue what the music industry is all about
paul anthony: all your producers that is on your site is small time
paul anthony: i already checked each and evryone out
s s: you backed off to pay me few dollars to open up account for non paying members and now you want to pay a million sign on bonus lol
paul anthony: so if you wanna talk when is a good time
paul anthony: i said I would pay you
paul anthony: i said i think it is stupid but you never did give me an address when i asked for it
s s: its panth15477@aol.com pay me $100 now, can you ?
paul anthony: Yes i can pay you now, but I dont use paypal
paul anthony: i would have to mail it to you
s s: lol
s s: no thanks, u asked for my paypal email before i dont have a bad memmory
paul anthony: but as of 2:00 am i closed the account
s s: you can even pay from there even you dont have paypal account from your credit card
paul anthony: paypal was going into the account and taking money out if it illegaly so i shut it down
s s: yaaa what a perfect coincidence
paul anthony: The Cpa will cut you the check in the morning and it will be mailed out every friday we pay all bills
paul anthony: http://www.paypalsucks.com
paul anthony: read all the reports if illegal actiives that paypal been doing
s s: well i said you can pay even if you do not have pay pal account, can u try to pay me now?
s s: www.palpal.com
s s: my email is panth15477@aol.com
paul anthony: i wont use paypal. i had to much problems wiht them
s s: sure
s s: lol
paul anthony: your only hurting your self by doing this. but its up to you
s s: this is another clue for me about you
paul anthony: what a clue that i protect my account
paul anthony: what would you do if paypal went into your account and withdrew $1,000.00 without your concent
s s: Sorry i dont have any more time to wate with you, i am closing your account and emailing all singers on my site about fraud alert about you
paul anthony: you do that i will take you to court for slander and liable
paul anthony: close the account but dont make false alligations without proof i will win
paul anthony: and I will sue you for every penny I promise you that
s s: who the f**k u think you are
paul anthony: when someone starts threatening to slander my company you will see in court who I am realy fast
s s: f**k off
s s: a*s hole
paul anthony: you better ask your wife about slander and how much it will cost you
paul anthony: that is very professional
s s: you are making me as angry as i never had in years
paul anthony: You saying I am a fraud
paul anthony: without proof
paul anthony: you threatning to do something illegal
s s: u smell like a fraud
paul anthony: just becuse i wont give you trade secrets
s s: its on you to prove it otherwise
s s: its my job to tell my clients if i smell one
paul anthony: no its on you to prive it you can find me all over the net and in your local retail stores
paul anthony: not without proof
paul anthony: i showed you my business licnese
s s: i wont say you are fraud but i will alarm them that i smell fraud it theri duty to be sure
paul anthony: i will still take you to court of any mention of the word fruad
paul anthony: as I am not a fruad
paul anthony: last peson to do that lost everything and is now homeless
paul anthony: so before you dig your self a deep hole why not do some reseach
s s: do not threaten me, i can take you to court , dont forget my wife is a lawer and i wont spent a penny for that
s s: for threateningme
s s: threatening me
paul anthony: then ask your wife about slander and liable
paul anthony: not a treat if you tell people that I am a fraud its to court we will go
paul anthony: you need to hav proof and you have none
s s: No email still about grammy
paul anthony: let me post it her ethen
s s: cant u send through here as you are sendingother stuff
paul anthony: yes
You have sent 1 file to s s.
FREE Movie Screening of _The Pursuit of Happyness_.eml

paul anthony: and to verify that the recording acadamy is part of grammys go to http://www.grammys.com
paul anthony: usmc is trying to tell you something
s s: well
s s: gotta go
s s: have a good night
paul anthony: see you in courtr
paul anthony: court
---------that was only today---------

yesterday he kept chaning the prices. tell we came to an agreement of 5% from me and nothing from cleints that I sign.

tony
southern, California
U.S.A.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Some one is filing false reports.

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

Hello, My name is Robert Anthony Pifher, I am the President/CEO of JHHP RECORDS, INC.
I was told about this post from an artist. Around Dec 20th my office did get a phone call from tune 97 about us using tune 97 for consideration to sign artist, I politely told this person NO! I told him at the current time we do not use internet service like yours to sign artist, he then calls this one person and introduces to me her, he said this person was a famous person, We talked for a few minutes then he came back after she hung up and said now do you want to user our services, I still said I am not interested and hung up.

Now (March 31, 2007 I am finding out of this post on ripoff.com, I do not know who this Paul is. As we never had an employee named Paul. I do not know what is going on as we never signed up for account. My Board of Directors authorized me to contact the company attorney to investigate this matter We are asking ripoff.com to remove this illegal, and slanderous post above. My attorney thinks it was the owner of tune 97 that posted all of the above. I really have no idea, but that is what we will be finding out. JHHP RECORDS, INC. is a independent record label that is incorporated in the state of California. My company holds high standards in the music industry and my Board of Directors is picky on who we sign.
JHHP RECORDS, INC. takes this matter very seriously.

Robert. A. Pifher President/CEO
JHHP RECORDS, INC.

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AUTHOR: Syed - (U.S.A.)

Well.....Every one can see how busy Mr Robert is in Touring the whole world.

Instead he appears to have whole day at his leisure to sit on this site and fabricate the stories.

I truly believe My Robert may be suffering from some mental illness and we do not have time to waste to respond to lies and fabricated stories or act as a outlet for his hallucinations. :-)...
Because Mr Robert will keep on putting more and more lies.

Any one interested in our company solid back ground and to get testimonial about our solid reputation from many clients whom we worked for years including singers and producers are welcome to email us directly.

Good Luck Mr Robert with JHHP.You and your comapny will be fine without our Company.
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AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I paid this ss. person via Western Union $100.00 for full access as we agreed to My company is listed with ASCAP as a publisher. I am able to have my artist music in retail stores world wide, and all top major MP3 sites, we work hard and we are very dedicated to making our artist a rising star, but all artist knows we will not make promises we cannot keep, and we do not guarantee how much money the artist make in sales.

It is a known fact that Tune97.com charges his artist to use his gold service, and their is no way a person can cancel the gold membership on his website. He claimed over the phone to have labels from major labels But when I talked to my contacts at the said locations they said they do not use this company and has never heard of him. the 70 so-called producers is very small Independent label.

I have told him over the phone several times that we are not a Major label nor a small label. But we have all the recourses as a Major label. is copy and past from his rebuttal and I will reply to each.

he real name of My Tony ( At least which we know of ) is Mr Robert Paul Anthony from JHHP records. First of all we never contacted him, so the post started with a lie.

Mr Robert friend) contacted us in one of the yahoo's music chat rooms who gave our Id to Mr Robert Tony who messaged and contacted us.

He claimed to be owner of one of the hit Label in the country. He seemed interested in checking our singers on the site.

(For the record it is Mr. Robert Anthony. I changed my name in San Diego court house a few years ago from Paul Anthony. But Yahoo wont let me update the name on the account so it will always show as Paul Anthony on messenger and I let people know of this issue. And I never said we was a Hit label, The person that introduced me to Tune97.com is subcontractor with my label and we did a conference chat on Yahoo messenger. All 3 of us).


As very clearly written in Our rules and regulations section of our Site for many years
http://www.tune97.com/rules.html that if a contract take place between a singer and a producer through Tune97.com , Tune97.com should be involved in this contract and may get some percentage of the deal.

(it does not matter what his updated terms of service says, My legal department told me that part of his Terms of Service violates California Privacy laws. And we told him that several times, he is like but its in the terns of service and its legal. His company is not in California, his company is out of Wisconsin, I told him we are out of California and I have to follow California laws, he is trying to tell me his Terms of conditions is the law for anyone that does business, but when I first read the terms of service it made no motion of that fact.


(So a discussion took place as to what percentage will go to Tune97.com if the contract goes through. (We agreed to 5% across the board, and now he wants to change it, the 5% includes any sign on bonuses, any merchandising, sales, etc)

However in the next few days Mr Robert activity on our site started raising red flags.

1. He messaged more then half of over 300 singers on our site offering all of them record contracts. (we messaged a total of 35 artist that we was interested in, only 5 we said we would like to sign you immediately and the rest we said we said we would like to talk to you about a possible recording contact. We did not listen to 150 artist we only listened to 35 tell all drama from tune97.com took place.)

Although no Contract was taken place between him and any singers on our site, Mr Robert was eager getting our Federal Tax Ids and other confidential information (although we barley knew him over last 3 or 4 days) for IRS tax purposes for the percentage of the revenue our site will receive from the sale of the singers record. Again jumping to give us revenue from something which does not even exist or even consented by the singer to produce?

We signed 4 artist from Tune97.com (To date we owe tune97.com a few hundred dollars. For the 5% sign on bonuses and we will follow IRS tax laws. The President of tune 97did ask if we could pay him under his name and via pay pal. As he did not want to corporate pay taxes. I told him NO we will not pay via pay pal, and we are required to issue your company a 1099 at the end of the year. That is what the IRS Agent told us when we called 1-800-tax-1040. And I said that all checks will be made payable to your company not your name. As he told me over the phone he was a corporation. IF he said he was a Sole Owner then we would have no trouble paying him under his name. but the accounting dept wont use pay pal for security issues. At one time we had a pay pal account and we had over a grand taken out with out our permission. We told him that and he don't understand why we refuse to pay via pay pal. So this person and he came out and said I must be a scam for not wanting to pay via pay pal. But the truth if the matter is I no longer trust pay pal's security, and we are very protective of the bank accounts number),

Although we do not think it is appropriate to post some private conversations but to answer lies to Mr. Tony we need to do that

(everything I posted in the original message was an exact copy and past form yahoo messenger, nothing was edited). I really think this person is mixing me up with this Tony person. I never go by Tony, never have never will.


This part really got his upset

s s (12/22/2006 12:24:30 AM): are you saying you would not be online from tomorrow till sept 2007 ?
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:24:38 AM): that is right
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:24:48 AM): one of my assistant will be, but I wont
s s (12/22/2006 12:25:17 AM): then why should i do busniess with you if you are not going to be talking to me?
s s (12/22/2006 12:25:22 AM): to me
s s (12/22/2006 12:25:29 AM): i dont understand you sorry
s s (12/22/2006 12:25:51 AM): i think you are just playing games
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:25:55 AM): what is their not to understand. I am the President of JHHP RECORDS, i do a lot of traveling

(I am not here to talk to people just to chit chat, I am very busy dealing with artist and finding new avenues to sell my artist music, and all he wants to do is send me messages and just chit chat about the weather and sports, I told him several times I am way to busy to have a general chit chat, if you need to talk business then we can set up an appointment. He don't understand why I am going to be gone tell Sept 97. Like any other successful business people travels to meet other people and to network, and to open new avenues to create more income for clients.

Any way's when Mr Robert sensed that we are suspicious about his motives so he spamed numerous singing members on our site overnight of spam emails in their mail boxes accusing us to be involved in fraudulent activity and ripping our clients of... We have to temporarily disable our messaging system to halt Mr Roberts attempt to spam our system.

(we never sent spam to any of his clients, we have a feeling that he did it on our account, after this whole conversation he said our account was deleted, and the next day we are being told by him we sent out spam, how can an account be deleted and we send out spam. And 2 of the artist that got the spammed message was a free member hence that they don't get e-mail via free service just gold, and they was upgraded to gold just for the purpose of receiving spam on an account. We was told was deleted and we have no access to.
Its ok we referred this whole thing to our legal team and we are going ahead with a slander lawsuit. Against tune97.com

Finally Mr Robert saw this web site as an outlet to cool off his frustrations by posting private conversation to give it a twist in negative way, not mentioning in the context they were made.

(like I said I just did a select all and copy and pasted the whole text on here, he is doing selective text and is not posting the whole thing to try to safe face. This person has never given us a US mailing address so we can send the payment out to his company. he wants pay pal only and we wont use pay pal. We did send $100.00 via western union to use his site as agreed. And now he deleted us because he don't understand how my industry works. In Wisconsin we own DRAGON MAIFA RECORDS and the executive in Wisconsin Mr. Poroski was told not to use Tune97.com)

Again we will give Mr Robert benefit of doubt. We still not sure as if Mr Robert is for real or not regarding his true influence in the business industry. But we are sure on one thing that Mr Roberts conduct is very unprofessional and inconsistent.

Protection of our singing members on our site is our prime goal and responsibility. Although Mr Robert has given us many offers of bonuses since then but we have refused all. We have not received a single penny from Mr Robert for any of our services he has used nor we are planning to.

Yes we have deleted his account from our site for security reasons and have emailed all of our singers on the site alerting on Mr Roberts behaviors. We have not accused of him anything or anything illegal , just caution our singers about his conduct and behavior so that they do not get a similar experience from him. This email alert is also posted on our site.

(he sends out messages to clients using an account that was he said deleted, he makes us look bad, we follow all federal state and local laws he gets upset. What is one suppose to do)? A) File a lawsuit for Liable and slander)

ALL he has to do is go to Google and do a search all he has to do is call a few offline retailer and find out that JHHP RECORDS does in fact have access to different retailers all over the world. Not sure what more I could do to prove to this person I am for real and so is my label. I sent him all official documents he asked for. I wont say sorry that I don't have time for chit chat if it is not business related, my first responsibly is for the artist and making sure they get the exposure they deserve. Marketing them worldwide, and then go to meetings, network, go to different venues, one of my goals is to have my arist sign to major labels after they meet all requirements. This person already admitted he don't hae a clue what it is like being an executive of a record label. He even admitted he has a full time job at wall mart. (nothing wrong with hard work, and I always shop at wall mart) but don't compare what I do to what you do at wall mart, it is like comparing apples to fish. I wish the president of tune97 luck with is so called business.
On 12/30/2006 he sent me a message that sounded like Blackmail:

s s (12/30/2006 4:25:29 PM): I have a contract for you to view
paul anthony (12/30/2006 4:25:30 PM): ok
s s (12/30/2006 4:26:09 PM): REMOVE ME FROM THAT SITE YOU POSTED ME TO OR ELSE.
paul anthony (12/30/2006 4:26:23 PM): ok, what ever.

Then when I went to open the attachment it was a virus.

Had to re-format the whole hard drive.

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Response to allegations regarding Tune97.com

AUTHOR: Syed - (U.S.A.)

I am writing as a CEO of Tune97.com in response to very unprofessional report submitted on this site.

Our Company started in 2004 and since then we have created a platform for new aspiring singers to meet Producers and label companies. To date we have over 300 singers and 70 producers from around the world.

We ask producers what are they looking for in singers like age, sex, location and genre. Using those criteria's we match singers to matching producers. Also we use the same computer generated algorithm when a new singer joins our site. An email alert goes to all the producers about the new singer to whom they have matched.

We are also host of a very Unique Online Singing Contest. We believe we were the pioneer in starting Online Singing Contests. Our Contest is Unique in a sense that our web site recognizes three types of voters including regular visitors, our Site Singing members and Site Producers. Each member vote in these categories count 33% towards the final rating. To Date we have conducted more then 10 Online Singing Contests with various prizes to the winners.

It is absolutely free to join our site. We provide space to singers on our site to display their talent. In fact majority of singers on our site have free accounts since the site's inception. We do however provide option of upgrading the account to Gold membership for few dollars on monthly basis providing extra features to wishing members.

Over last few years we have developed very close ties with producers and singers on our Site. We believe every member on our site belongs to our family. Many of our members know us personally and are witness to our excellent professional behaviors over years.

Our Rules and regulations are very clear and have been posted on our site for many years. Click this link to review our Site rules and regulations.
http://www.tune97.com/rules.html

Although it is clearly stated in our rules and regulation section and various other places on our site that we do not take any liability nor any responsibility for authenticity of any producers or any singers for that matter on our site. If any parties are interested in further negotiations it is their responsibility to confirm the identity or authenticity of involved party on the other side.

However we do monitor activities on our site and if we are suspicious about any account on our site for any suspicious activity we have the full right to cancel their account without any notice and ban them from our site.
This is to protect our members specifically our singing members from any fraudulent activity.

Now coming back to the report which is filed for Tune97.com by so called Mr Tony from California.

It will be much easier for me to summarize by saying that the report is 95% incorrect and a lie. What more a person can say about some one who post private conversations twisting it to give a false impression in a different context.

The real name of My Tony ( At least which we know of ) is Mr Robert Paul Anthony from JHHP records. First of all we never contacted him, so the post started with a lie.

( Mr Robert friend) contacted us in one of the yahoo's music chat rooms who gave our Id to Mr Robert Tony who messaged and contacted us.

He claimed to be owner of one of the hit Label in the country. He seemed interested in checking our singers on the site.

Initially he appeared genuine. Coincidently we had one of a very good and popular singer joined our site from California whom we were talking to. That female Singer from California is already very famous with appearance in Good Morning America and actively doing Commercial movies.

To help them both we arranged a three way conference between that female singer, us and Mr Tony. The conference took place for 30 minutes or more and it was decided that further negotiation should take place after Holiday season.

The talk was very positive and there was a good chance that a contract may take place between Mr Robert and that Singer.

As very clearly written in Our rules and regulations section of our Site for many years
http://www.tune97.com/rules.html that if a contract take place between a singer and a producer through Tune97.com , Tune97.com should be involved in this contract and may get some percentage of the deal.

So a discussion took place as to what percentage will go to Tune97.com if the contract goes through.

However in the next few days Mr Robert activity on our site started raising red flags.

1. He messaged more then half of over 300 singers on our site offering all of them record contracts.

2. Although no Contract was taken place between him and any singers on our site, Mr Robert was eager getting our Federal Tax Ids and other confidential information (although we barley knew him over last 3 or 4 days) for IRS tax purposes for the percentage of the revenue our site will receive from the sale of the singers record. Again jumping to give us revenue from something which does not even exist or even consented by the singer to produce?
( Although we do not think it is appropriate to post some private conversations but to answer lies to Mr Tony we need to do that. )

s s is Tune97.com
paul anthony is Mr Robert Tony from JHHP records. The Private Conversations are enclosed in (((((( )))))))) brackets.

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s s (12/22/2006 12:00:01 AM): lol k
(12/22/2006 12:00:23 AM): I need your comapny full legal name, address
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:00:28 AM): federal tax id for tax purposes
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:00:38 AM): sending you a from right now rbrb
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:00:39 AM): brb
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:01:38 AM): without this information we cannot pay you
s s (12/22/2006 12:02:40 AM): well payment must be atleast 6-9 months away, so why such a rush for that info?)))))))))))))))))

3. While discussion for the contract is taking place Mr Robert put forward a statement that he may disappear for One year since he is too busy??

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s s (12/22/2006 12:24:30 AM): are you saying you would not be online from tomorrow till sept 2007 ?
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:24:38 AM): that is right
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:24:48 AM): one of my assistant will be, but I wont
s s (12/22/2006 12:25:17 AM): then why should i do busniess with you if you are not going to be talking to me?
s s (12/22/2006 12:25:22 AM): to me
s s (12/22/2006 12:25:29 AM): i dont understand you sorry
s s (12/22/2006 12:25:51 AM): i think you are just playing games
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:25:55 AM): what is their not to understand. I am the President of JHHP RECORDS, i do a lot of traveling
s s (12/22/2006 12:26:19 AM): yaa right.....but that doesn't make a man disappears for a year??? )))))))

3. Many inconsistencies in his statements.


First of all we will post abstract of Our Conversation took place on 12/20/06

Please note in the conversation how Mr Tony was boosting off paying for a service on our site through Paypal:

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s s (12/20/2006 12:31:49 AM): well i am seriously thinking making it free for all singers like upgrading them to gold
paul anthony (12/20/2006 12:32:19 AM): yes that would be a good idea and charge the label instead that is what your competition does
s s (12/20/2006 12:32:44 AM): k
paul anthony (12/20/2006 12:32:49 AM): ie charge the label like $20/00/month
paul anthony (12/20/2006 12:32:57 AM): for access
s s (12/20/2006 12:33:02 AM): $20 per month
s s (12/20/2006 12:33:04 AM): ?
paul anthony (12/20/2006 12:33:05 AM): $20.00/month
s s (12/20/2006 12:33:17 AM): i will start with you lol
paul anthony (12/20/2006 12:33:20 AM): i use 2 other services like yours and they charge me $20.00/month
paul anthony (12/20/2006 12:33:34 AM): what is your paypal address
paul anthony (12/20/2006 12:33:39 AM): we will send payment tommorrow
s s (12/20/2006 12:33:53 AM): well
s s (12/20/2006 12:34:16 AM): i will let u know
paul anthony (12/20/2006 12:34:16 AM): labels that wants the contacts you have will pay
s s (12/20/2006 12:34:20 AM): i was just kidding
s s (12/20/2006 12:34:27 AM): i know
s s (12/20/2006 12:34:36 AM): i appreciated your input
s s (12/20/2006 12:34:42 AM): but i wouldnt charge you
))))))))))))

As you can see Mr Robert was willing to pay through PayPal on 12/20/06.

Well we became suspicious of all activities and behaviors of My Robert. So One way for us to verify at least some credibility of Mr Robert is to see if he will be willing to pay even $100 even though he is boosting himself of the owner of a millions of dollar company.

See what happens next in his own conversation he posted on this site. Very next day when to test him we ask him to send us $100 through Pay pal...and now over night he does not even have a pay pal address or account.

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s s (12/22/2006 12:58:57 AM): you backed off to pay me few dollars to open up account for non paying members and now you want to pay a million sign on bonus lol
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:58:58 AM): so if you wanna talk when is a good time
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:59:24 AM): i said I would pay you
paul anthony (12/22/2006 12:59:41 AM): i said i think it is stupid but you never did give me an address when i asked for it
s s (12/22/2006 1:00:18 AM): its panth15477@aol.com pay me $100 now, can you ?
paul anthony (12/22/2006 1:00:40 AM): Yes i can pay you now, but I dont use paypal
paul anthony (12/22/2006 1:00:48 AM): i would have to mail it to you
s s (12/22/2006 1:00:51 AM): lol
s s (12/22/2006 1:01:11 AM): no thanks, u asked for my paypal email before i dont have a bad memmory
paul anthony (12/22/2006 1:01:30 AM): but as of 2:00 am i closed the account
s s (12/22/2006 1:01:56 AM): you can even pay from there even you dont have paypal account from your credit card
paul anthony (12/22/2006 1:02:06 AM): paypal was going into the account and taking money out if it illegaly so i shut it down
s s (12/22/2006 1:02:36 AM): yaaa what a perfect coincidence
paul anthony (12/22/2006 1:02:53 AM): The Cpa will cut you the check in the morning and it will be mailed out every friday we pay all bills
paul anthony (12/22/2006 1:03:10 AM): http://www.paypalsucks.com
paul anthony (12/22/2006 1:03:24 AM): read all the reports if illegal actiives that paypal been doing
s s (12/22/2006 1:03:33 AM): well i said you can pay even if you do not have pay pal account, can u try to pay me now?
s s (12/22/2006 1:03:42 AM): www.palpal.com
s s (12/22/2006 1:03:55 AM): my email is panth15477@aol.com
paul anthony (12/22/2006 1:03:58 AM): i wont use paypal. i had to much problems wiht them
s s (12/22/2006 1:04:04 AM): sure
s s (12/22/2006 1:04:05 AM): lol
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Anyway's when Mr Robert sensed that we are suspicious about his motives so he spamed numerous singing members on our site overnight of spam emails in their mail boxes accusing us to be involved in fraudulent activity and ripping our clients of... We have to temporarily disable our messaging system to halt Mr Roberts attempt to spam our system.

Finally Mr Robert saw this web site as an outlet to cool off his frustrations by posting private conversation to give it a twist in negative way, not mentioning in the context they were made.

Again we will give Mr Robert benefit of doubt. We still not sure as if Mr Robert is for real or not regarding his true influence in the business industry. But we are sure on one thing that Mr Roberts conduct is very unprofessional and inconsistent.

Protection of our singing members on our site is our prime goal and responsibility. Although Mr Robert has given us many offers of bonuses since then but we have refused all. We have not received a single penny from Mr Robert for any of our services he has used nor we are planning to.

Yes we have deleted his account from our site for security reasons and have emailed all of our singers on the site alerting on Mr Roberts behaviors. We have not accused of him anything or anything illegal , just caution our singers about his conduct and behavior so that they do not get a similar experience from him. This email alert is also posted on our site.

If any questions about this case or about our site please feel free to email us at admn@tune97.com

Thank you.
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the owner of that company that is exploiting kids talents

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

for the record it is past midnight and i been up for 21 hours. and I am Paul Anthiny the producer. s.s. is the owner of that company that is exploiting kids talents.
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the owner of that company that is exploiting kids talents

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

for the record it is past midnight and i been up for 21 hours. and I am Paul Anthiny the producer. s.s. is the owner of that company that is exploiting kids talents.
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AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

for the record it is past midnight and i been up for 21 hours. and I am Paul Anthiny the producer. s.s. is the owner of that company that is exploiting kids talents.
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