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  • Submitted: Wed, December 18, 2013
  • Updated: Fri, April 18, 2014

  • Reported By: Adam — Atlanta Georgia
Unbounded Solutions, Inc
2002 Summit Blvd #700 Atlanta, Georgia USA

Unbounded Solutions, Inc is cheating its employees, vendors, and clients Atlanta Georgia

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Stay away from them, they are very deceptive

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not All Bad, But Far From Good

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: How they Profit through Lies

*Consumer Suggestion: This report is 100% accurate

*UPDATE Employee: Not what I experienced at all

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This company is a fraud and will lie it's way into the pockets of its clients.  Each step of their business model requires some sort of spun statement or absolute deceit.  

They recruit up-and-coming IT programmers through false statements or partial truths then lock them into a two year contract promising "free" training and opportunities on the job market.  Once you're in and you sign your life away (including a non-disclosure agreement threatening lawsuits if you talk), you begin training and the company puts on a false image of happiness and money.  

During training, the company has its sales employees fraudulently act as you (saying your name, education, etc) to possible employers and vendors who need similar services.  The biggest issue is falsifying the consultant's resume adding major clients (some Fortune500) and senior positions so that they can request more money from the potential client.  They force all consultants to remember their new resume information and be able to recall dates, locations, co-workers, etc that they have added to this falsehood.  When interviews are requested, a different person from Unbounded's technical department take the interview for you which makes you look better than you actually are.  Now that "you" have won the position, the company fabricates the entire interview to the consultant in training, making them believe they actually just took the interview over the phone with the client.  

Once you've gotten your new position, the company encourages lying to everyone you meet there to keep up the persona that you're a well-experienced developer and inform you that if you don't really "believe" in the lies put on your resume that you'll be fired or let go by the new employer.  Unbounded also lets you know that if you don't complete two years for them that they'll hold you financially responsible for training at an uncalculated fee of $20,000.

While on project, Unbounded assists each consultant by enforcing project managers and technical support on you.  This is because any time that a consultant cannot complete their task, the tech support team will do it for you to ensure that Unbounded can keep billing the client.  This cycle just continues because none of the consultants that Unbounded hire are actual experts.  Some (if not most) are college grads or adults with little experience coding.

I had to report this entire enterprise as these other companies are giving hard-earned money to Unbounded Solutions for quality when all they're getting in return are lies.  The employees of Unbounded are threatened with NDA's not to talk about their ethics and their consultants are exploited, terrified to reveal the truth to anyone.

Someone please report this so the nice people working there can rid themselves of these uppermanagement sharks that eat all the money these people had to lie for.


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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Stay away from them, they are very deceptive

AUTHOR: sink - ()

All that is said is true. That company is very deceptive . They will train you (Poorly), will give you housing and all that to create  a situation where you will owe them something, so they can find legitimate way make you sign those two years contract. You will spend a long time on bench in some cases, a very very long time living on 7.25$ as an I.T engineer till you decide to stand up for yourself and quit them. But anyway get ready for lots of headaches and headaches and long period on bench where you are frustrated. I had a fellow consultant so frustrated and tired that he started talking about commiting suicide, it's sometimes beyond your imagination. If they spend too long time before getting you to a project and you are in a certain situation and stuck on that contract, that can lead you to lose your mind and these guys don't care a bit.

They have lots of bright people there and as a company specializing in IT, they should open a special office and start to innovate and create software and apps with the brightest guys they have while doing consulting to the side .They will sure succeed in that way and people will trust them. But to my very own opinion Vik Thadani (The CEO) is someone with questionable morality and just want to make money by lies and deception. He never tried to meet his consultants during those two years spent with them and they are the one bringing money to the table to that company. There are so many complaints and people on the verge to sue them that I'm very doubtful about their future. I just hope , now that they are running on a new name (I will not disclose the name because maybe this time they are doing honest business and don't want to discredit them here) that they are trying to innovate and not trying to pursue their dirty business under that new name. 

Unless you are desperate, I mean very very very desperate, stay away from them.

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Not All Bad, But Far From Good

AUTHOR: ReBounded - ()

Jonathan, all that is true. However, notice that you did not actually refute any of those claims other than that they answered your contract-related questions when you asked. Even still, they are lying to you about so many other things and merely not telling you of others. You may be making 55k per year, far higher than average for an Unbounded consultant mind you, but Unbounded is getting $90+ per hour for your time there. The client is likely paying far higher even than that since whatever vendors contractually lie between those two companies need a substantial cut as well. You really lucked out if your experience has been as positive as you say. The way the recruiting works is that an office of guys in India talks to recruiters pretending to be you and take the shotgun approach of contacting any and every recruiter who advertises a job that even says 'Sharepoint' or 'Exchange' or 'iPhone' or 'Android' or whatever you were trained for in the title or mentioned somewhere in the job description. Then a separate person on the internal tech team interviews as you, pretending to be you and answering the tough technical questions. If the contracts team can get a high enough price, they will send you there regardless of any input from you and often without any input from your trainer, CDM, or anyone else who knows you or your particular strengths. The first time a company will see your face or hear your voice is the first day you show up on site, or the rare case where they will put you on a Skype interview which Unbounded will fight tooth and nail to prevent. This is all well and good so long as nobody client-side catches on. The catch of course is that this breaks so many ethics codes and actual laws that I have seen many of my guys sent home on their first day and become blacklisted from not only that client, but any of their affiliates. A few people have become unemployable for breaking NDAs given by clients because they shared code with Unbounded support, which they will demand you do regardless of any such agreement you sign. Even more were discovered not to have done what their resume said or be lacking in the skill it claims they have and sent home/blacklisted for those reasons. Support can help out in some situations, but only on a technical level and only in what you were trained for. Oftentimes, the job will require work that not only you were not trained for, but you support has no knowledge of either. Even In the event that you or support can pull you through in your technical tasks, if the client is suspicious of you and actually investigates, you will likely have to find a new line of work or freelance under an assumed identity. I also urge anyone reading this not to trust the Glassdoor reviews. Once apon a time, I was paid a sizeable comission every time I managed to get a negative review taken off that site, and had a fake one approved

 

Unbounded Solutions can work out and can sometimes be a good place to work, but it is a huge risk. You will not so much get your foot in the door as a software developer, as you will be forceably thrown through it. If you are a good liar or just plain lucky, you might survive what is on the other side. If you are not a good liar and not lucky though, what is on the other side will eat you alive and spit you out of that same door which will now be permanently closed to you. Jonathan, you were abnormally lucky and/or skilled and now you have a lot of good experience that is legitimate. As soon as your current contract is up, I urge you to get out while you're ahead and begin your legitimate career with the experience you have gained, which by the way, will net you far more than $55k per year at even the worst-paying companies. As someone without the technical skill to find that sort of pay with that level of experience, I absolutely hate to see all of that potenital and real talent wasted like that.

By the way, that contract you signed is unenforceable. Just take it to any competant lawyer and they will tell you the same. Unbounded will demand you to pay it and threaten you with litigation, but take them to court or threaten to, and they will not have a foot to stand on. You can also present them with the ultimatum of letting them go or you will tell your client all this information, which I can verify is accurate if not in specific numbers since I remember the contract termination fee being $10,000 and not $20,000, then at the very least in essentials.

Also, you may have noticed all the male pronouns I have used to describe consultants. That is because they do not hire females in a technical role. If they did, they would have to hire other females to pretend to be them. So good news, ladies: Unbounded Solutions will never try and get you as a consultant.

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

How they Profit through Lies

AUTHOR: Unbounded Solutions, Inc - ()

The facts shared here in the above postings are true. I will share my experence in an effort to steer others away from this company. 

 

From start to finish from the prospective of a cousultant: 

1. Counsultant hired at 20-30hr

2. Counsultant trained for 3months. Training is not really anyone teaching you. It's a test to see if you possess the drive to teach yourself.

3. You are "marketed" for a job. In other words, some guys in Indian are paid low wages to send emails and post a modified resume with years of exprience you don't have, to job sites like Monster.com. I have these emails to prove.

4. Once the rate is negositated in email for corp to corp, the information for the Unbounded legal counsul is provided.

5. Unbounded then amends riders to the contract to prevent legal action and secure payments in case the counsultant is not successful on project.

6. At this point, if not already been done. They use an internal employe from the IT department (usually an ex-counsultant) to interview for you. Even these interviews fail so it's a proccess.

7. The counsultant then interviews with some indian which builts the counsultants self-estem so he can have confidence thinking he got the job himself. Also, they do Not hire female counsultants.

8. You go on project and are provided 2 weeks of hotel and flight. Then logistics gives you housing options. Which are merely links from craigslist you could have found yourself.

9. You work on project ad learn as much as you can and report daily to USI. You seek their help but are not given answers because 

A. They are understaffed to beable to put the required attention to your specifc issues. 

B. They want you to grow and do the work yourself anyways while they collect half what you're actually being paid. 

 

Counsultant USI Vendor Client

 

Vendor is usually a staffing agency

Client is the large company paying for services to the vendor

 

Rates from the Vendor are from 70-150hr which goes to USI.

You recieve 20-30hr to start.

Now, It's not all bad because a driven counsultant can really succed at the company but often times they are jumped from job to job.

 

Some of this information is from my personal exprience and I have evendence to prove it all.

 

This posting is for any company's trying to get involved with USI or any IT counnsultants considering the company.

 

Good Luck to all and beware of who you trust.

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This report is 100% accurate

AUTHOR: Experienced Senior IT Recruiter - ()

Everything contained in the original post is accurate and any consultant aligning themselves with Unbounded Solutions takes the dire risk of being black listed by legitimate consulting firms.  If you make the mistake of getting tangled up with this firm, walk away in a professional fashion and protect your professional reputation.  Thier 2 year "employment contract" is illegal and unenforceable in all 50 states.  Run, run, run from Unbounded Solutions and protect your career. 

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#5 UPDATE Employee

Not what I experienced at all

AUTHOR: Jonathan - ()

I've been working for Unbounded Solutions for almost 18 months, and I really don't know what this guy is talking about.  Before I joined the company, I couldn't find a real IT job to save my life.  I had a degree but no real experience, so no one would give me a real shot.

Unbounded saw my resume, called me and soon I was in Atlanta getting trained.  They never told me it was "free training", but it was like a college course, and I'd pay it back over the course of two years working for them.  I guess this guy didn't ask enought questions but it was pretty clear to me what I was getting into.  I know that if I leave before the end of my contract I have to pay back the cost of training and the housing that they paid for.  That was also made clear to me before I signed anything.  Dude, ask some questions before you sign something that isn't clear to you.  Geez.

Before Unbounded I was making aorund $25K a year doing part time and contracting gigs.  Now I'm making around $55K, and have gotten to work with some cool companies, including a couple of fortune 500s. 

Bottom line, I guess "Adam" didn't know what he was getting into, and now he's whining about it.  For me?  This was a great opportunity, and in another 6 months, I'll be able to go anyplace I want and have the experience that I didn't have before.

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