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Complaint Review: Vanillabelle Ragdolls - Clark Mills New York

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  • Vanillabelle Ragdolls Clark Mills, New York USA

Vanillabelle Ragdolls aka Roberta J Graziadei, Roberta M Graziade, Robert M Graziadei, R M Graziadei, Nettie Graziadei, Bobbi Graziadei, Antionette DeLeonardis) CROWDFUNDER SCAM Clark Mills New York

*Consumer Comment: No requirement for state licensure

*Author of original report: Official business

*Author of original report: Clarification

*General Comment: Who is We??

*Author of original report: WHO you are - oh the irony

*Author of original report: Clueless Robert

*Consumer Comment: I am Robert G Thrasher, Who Are You?

*General Comment: Insufficient Information

*Author of original report: R. Thrasher

*Consumer Comment: Robert Thrasher Comments

*General Comment: Vanillabelle Accomplices

*General Comment: Blocked People; Dead Kittens?

*Consumer Comment: Shut down?

*Consumer Comment: Who is "we??"

*General Comment: More Lies

*Consumer Comment: Blocked

*General Comment: COWARDS

*Consumer Comment:  I am absent but would proudly put my name to it. Go ahead and believe it is false.

*Consumer Comment: False reports and accusations by Babaette Marie Ross

*Consumer Comment: Cowards

*General Comment: The Complaint is Valid Suerose

*Author of original report: To Suzanne Rosengold Ceppaluni

*Consumer Comment: Cowards

*Author of original report: True Report

*General Comment: Complaint without basis

*General Comment: This Complaint Is Valid Suerose

*Consumer Comment: more babble

*Consumer Comment: still not sure how you were ripped off

*General Comment: Chalon

*Consumer Comment: Remove my name from your list of bullies

*General Comment: This Complaint Is Valid Suerose

*Author of original report: Suzanne Lies

*General Comment: False report

*Author of original report: TO recruit #1 - Chalon

*Author of original report: TO BULLY #1 - Suzanne R

*General Comment: This Complaint is False

*Consumer Comment: Ripoff complaint false

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This business/person has launched an illegitimate crowdfunding campaign soliciting donations based on false statements of fact - utilizing names of persons in a fairytale lawsuit. There is NO LAWSUIT.

The party claims that "the case has already become very expensive" and that those named have bullied, harrassed, threatened, etc. and that this is the basis of her need. I am one of those people named in the campaign.

Last year, I had a deposit on a kitten from this hobby breeder. The breeder kept the kitten and delayed refunding my deposit (attempting to give me other kittens reserved by others). She attempted to solicit an illegal firearm from me and had some one calling pretending to be an attorney. Janine Lapointe (or Liponte) stated she was an attorney of Beal & Beal lawfirm representing Vanillabelle.

The person was a phone clerk - not in anyway affiliated with the law firm she claimed to be an attorney in practice for except for occassionally hired to answer the phones - as so confirmed by the paralegal there. The paralegal was not familiar with my name, any case associated with my name or even aware that the phone clerk had contacted me.

all of this has been reported to the Federal Trade Commission, NYS Attorney General, Local Law Enforcement, GoFundMe fraud, etc. and is currently under investigation.

Before you donate to this campaign... gofundme.com/saynotobullies please research the facts and know that this is a bogus campaign as it is represented. This business/person is preying on your pocketbook.

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#37 Consumer Comment

No requirement for state licensure

AUTHOR: Pam - (United States)

POSTED: Friday, November 02, 2018

https://www.animallaw.info/topic/table-state-commercial-pet-breeders-laws

New York doesn't have a requirement to be licensed as a hobby breeder.

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#36 Author of original report

Official business

AUTHOR: Nobodies - (United States)

POSTED: Thursday, November 02, 2017

The breeder obtained business certificate from her county in June of 2016. The breeder also obtained trademark in December of 2016. In April of 2017, the breeder filed a complaint with her county court - to include one known who has most definitely told the truth (I can only speak for myself). Gofundme investigated and removed a jpg image which gave names and addresses of some people that most possibly contributed (if the report was not made by the breeder herself) to a false report to child protective services, which was ultimately unfounded, against one of the report/rebuttal providers here. For safety concerns and in effort to halt the bullying and malfeance behaviors of any involved it had been requested by the original author that this ripoff report be removed. It is demanded that the breeder herself STOP encouraging the promotion of hatred etc in posts on Facebook, etc and to report to authorities with proof any legitimate harassment that she may be receiving all of which is unknown to this author and is Completely discouraged by this author. To that very means, the author asks for assistance from anyone interested in being witness or assisting in removing such posts located on the FB group named Vanillabelle Ragdolls & Friends https://m.facebook.com/groups/633999240050695 Or anywhere else by reporting them to Proper channels (Facebook, etc)

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#35 Author of original report

Clarification

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POSTED: Wednesday, July 26, 2017

 I do not and did not authorize the content of my original writing found on ripoff report to be copied and published to any other source of publication.

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#34 General Comment

Who is We??

AUTHOR: Lonny - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, September 01, 2016

WHO is WE or US?  You & Bobbi??? Are you Bobbi Gaziadei’s representative??  I consider it offensive from you calling me a coward. Feel free to come to  WV anytime. My name is on my  comments/rebuttals
There is plenty of “legs to stand on”, or evidence against Bobbi G./ Vanillabelle Ragdolls.

First of  all,  if you knew what damage  that has been done by Bobbi & her accomplices, which apparently encompasses you, you would feel different.

This Go Fund Me account that was formed by Bobbi Graziadei, was to HIRE herself a Lawyer to fight “everyone she dubs a Bully” , by her interpretation only. This has been going on for  SIX months or better. While she is begging for money, she has purchased several Breeder cat( usually cost approx. $3-$9000 each) She spent lots of money on “cleaning supplies” just before her home was inspected by SPCA(how convenient). Sponsoring a cat show in AZ? It goes on & on.

She has also duped her accomplices(friends at the time) on Paypal as well. Had someone else to beg to get money for her.

As for as court, I am waiting, & understand many others are as well. I’m sure many  countersuits are in the making to be filed. “Timing is Everything”.

You stated these “charges” are absurd, & based on vendettas, you are totally WRONG, they are based on  FACTS, which you need to search out Facts, & not Believe  what BOBBI says( usually a lie). Your friends are probably based on Bobbies lies, exaggerations, etc. KNOW THE FACTS.

Bobbi has bred cats without a NY License(at least for the past 4 years), to be legal it cost $100 a year. She has refused to give people Registered Papers, for Registered cats she sells, Always comes up with an excuse or ALWAYS  JUSTIFIES her answer, Usually with a lie, or fake document, etc.

I have personally experienced FAKE & FORGED Health Certificate for a cat from Bobbi. This was confirmed by the Vet clinic in NY, they denied it was theirs & said it had to come from the breeder (her phone # is on the document) This is a pending document right now.

Most people she has Lied about, duped, or slandered, etc., Bobbi Has BLOCKED them, and that way she has Blasted them to others, & knows they can’t DEFEND their selves against her threats, lies, slanders, etc.

This stupidity has been going on for years, not just happening. I know for 2 years since I’ve known & met her. A lot of the people were her friends, her admins on her cat site, & she chose to USE them, dupe them, backstab them, lie to them, BLAST others to her friends(at the time). I can have many sign affidavits to state such actions of using them to do her DIRTY WORKS. Talk about a CHICKEN----  that hides behind a computer, “ONLINE VEILS” ,  FOR YOUR INFO-This is a public forum.

Read my past comments or rebuttals. She is known to have broken the NY laws, in my opinion, she is a criminal. You are what you are.

She tells a lie with another lie to JUSTIFY her actions, & what is sad, people believe her, & accept her answers without searching the truth.  A very Unprofessional, Unethical, Lying, Law-Breaking, Un-Licensed-Self Claimed Breeder, who plays on people with her WOA IS ME  statements, every time she gets challenged or caught.

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#33 Author of original report

WHO you are - oh the irony

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POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2016

 With three Facebook profiles that connect you to a rip off report filed for fraud... What exactly is YOUR point or credibility here?

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#32 Author of original report

Clueless Robert

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POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2016

 Where the heck were you when public forum discussions were taking place and evidence was being shared? I understand, you're a new recruit and have some catching up to do. what would you like to see as far as evidence goes? Registration papers for purebred cats that were shipped without State Licensure? Gee, that will be awful hard to produce since they DO NOT exist. IF I were any part of the coward you call me, I certainly wouldn't have exposed all that I have. Back to that public forum you've invited me to - where is it - Bobbi (Roberta) Graziadei - the trailer park breeder - has had my contact info and has ignored any and all opportunity/invites to get in touch or discuss in an open forum. She is the one accountable for the fraud, bullying & poor ethics - I'm not the one hiding behind some cheap aluminum wall wearing tin foil hats...

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#31 Consumer Comment

I am Robert G Thrasher, Who Are You?

AUTHOR: Rthrasher - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 23, 2016

You hide behind your online veils and your accusations mean nothing without a public airing and a public forum to discuss, debate or even make legal accusations. If you were not cowards, and you had an actual leg to stand on, then we would see you in court, in public and you might have to bring something called evidence and an ID.

Anybody reading this might ask this question, If these complainants feel so strongly about their beliefs in this matter, why not bring it to court? Is it because they have no actual grievance with the person in question? Is it because this would not stand in a court? OR is it because they are so paralyzed by their issues with breeders in general that they prefer to attack under cover, where nobody knows who they are. 

Cowards do not spell their name out in public and challenge you to a publilc forum. Ulness there is a reply to this saying exactly who these  are and when they plan to meet us in a public forum, you can all consider this matter closed, and I will not return. Please fe free to email me, you courageous complainants, and meet us in a public forum. Email me, ROBERT G THRASHER, at Rob.Thrasher@gmail.com. That is just how cowardess I am! I do not expect to hear from you cowards! 

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#30 General Comment

Insufficient Information

AUTHOR: Documented Truth - ()

POSTED: Thursday, August 11, 2016

First, this ripoff report concerns an illegitimate crowdfunding site to fight specifically named “bullies.” The author of the original report is one of those named.  I am another. It would have been favorable if your comment could have actually addressed the subject of the report.

 

Thus, it is not a coordinated attack on breeders, based upon the belief that breeding is inherently evil.  These people wanted to buy kittens from breeders. If they actually believed it was evil, they would be adopting rescues, not buying purposely bred kittens.  Your assertion has NO MERIT.

 

Second, you may personally know people who work alongside Bobbi, but you don’t know her.  I would be curious as to how you know “from a personal experience that these charges are absurd”. I can guarantee you as her sister that your “personal experience” pales in comparison to my own.

 

I am a fellow OCS grad (Class of ’76) as is my brother (Class of ’86) and other sister (Class of ’81).  We have many friends and acquaintances in common. You may “stand with Bobbi” but her siblings certainly don’t.  You may have good intentions, but you do not have sufficient information.

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#29 Author of original report

R. Thrasher

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POSTED: Wednesday, August 10, 2016

 God Bless America. You are under the presumption that this ripoff report is false. (Albeit, a biased presumption more than likely emotionally driven based on your personal attachment and on many of the lies Spewn from Bobbi Graziadei's perverted mind). I stand by the facts I have stated in the report as well as in the rebuttals I have made as being true and accurate. If you have such proof to your claim that this report is a lie - feel free to post it. Your rebuttal and recent involvement here only suggests to me that this woman continues to lie, slander/defame to anyone who will listen. i suggest anyone who desires to share thoughts here to exert some measure of prudence, responsibility, and diligence that is expected from, and ordinarily exercised by, a reasonable and prudent person under the circumstances. IN other words - do your research - review the facts - and at least TRY to base your comments on the truth you uncover in doing so.

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#28 Consumer Comment

Robert Thrasher Comments

AUTHOR: Rthrasher - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, August 07, 2016

Firstly, A comment in this stream asks Bobbi to prove she is innocent. This is only spoke by an extreme ignorance of how this country works. You are never charged with proving yourself innocent in America. You, as the accuser have to PROVE beyond reasonable doubt that another AMERICAN is truly guilty of something. That assertion, to prove ones innocence, should be enough to discredit this entire report post-haste. 

Only in post-internet America is another fellow citizen of this great land charged with proving him or herself innocent. That is absurd on its face.

Secondly, this accusation is made toward a person who works alongside people who I personally know to have spent decades working to save cats, kittens and other animals, so I know, from a personal experience that these charges are absurd and based on some vendetta held by the accusers.

In fact, I can expose some more information about the accusers and plan to file a ripoff report against them in the future if they continue this illegal and immoral vendetta. I prefer to not do that at this time. This is a coordinated attack on breeders, based upon a mutually held beliefe that breeding, as opposed to saving, is an inherently evil behavior. This is a personal, evil, mutually held vendetta against breeders in general and has NO MERIT against Bobbi Graziadei, nor her partners. 

Thirdly, and lastly, I have made it one of my personal goals to out these fake accusers and expose them for who they really are. I don't need lawyers for this purpose. I stand with Bobbi and all her previous endeavors that are true and good in nature. She refused to provide you with a kitten, and you went nuts on her. It is time for you to move on! STOP NOW!

 

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#27 General Comment

Vanillabelle Accomplices

AUTHOR: Lonny - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, May 29, 2016

I was not socially involved in all this wrongdoings by Vanillabelle and its Accomplices.
Then I was being shown comments, post, etc. by Vanillabelles, Bobbi, and others. I was called an A--hole, and a few other names by Bobbi & her groupies, for unknown reasons, but now I realize the true mentality of these people.

I just found this PM on my page from a Suzanne Rosengold Ceppaluni, a Bobbi-ite of course. (I’ll post) How DENSE are these people? The NY State Laws have been posted for this claim and they still ignore the truth, and then quote “Bobbi said this…..” Bobbi said that…” Bonjour it’s on Bobbies site, must be true??  Suzanne, read the Laws, NY’s not Bobbies.
 Records #403, states “sale or gift”. Also, # 753-c states the papers have to be given in 120 days. This is what gives Sue & others the RIGHT to get papers for their cats. 

Vanillabell Ragdoll Kittens also advertise papers will be or can be obtained. This looks like FALSE ADVERISING. By the way, doesn’t Bobbi claim to be a Registered Ragdoll Breeder? What is a Registered Ragdoll cat ??? How is a Ragdoll Registered ??? Maybe with papers??? It’s Bobbi herself who says, NO papers, NO Pure breed Ragdoll?? Huh??

Read Update #1 on Bobbies Go F Me site. It states anyone who wants the attorneys info, just ask.  ANOTHER BOBBI LIE. Now you say it is confidential? How do you know all this, are you representing Bobbi? Are involved in this????

I have personally dealt with Attorneys on many situations for the past several years, and I am still communicating with some Attorneys and Forensic Financial Investigators and Government Officials as we speak. Nothing less than 25 to 30 attorneys, and we spent at least six digit figures most of the time to pay them per year. We kept them on retainers all the time, so what’s your point??
 You saw a check to the lawyer? Whoopee. The money could be used to pay him/her for anything.
I have been involved in MANY law suits, from $10,000. to $50 million. Yes, $50 million. This is nothing new.
When or if one is filed, the COUNTER SUITS will start as well. Just through experience, I ’m sure this will backfire on Bobbi and others, and will be very costly to them. Ask her attorney.

By the way this PM of yours and post, etc. of others are considered as being an Accomplices of Bobbi Graziadei / Vanillabelle Ragdoll Kittens,NY, it is  displaying HARRASSMENT and THREATS, and BULLYING.

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#26 General Comment

Blocked People; Dead Kittens?

AUTHOR: Documented Truth - ()

POSTED: Thursday, May 19, 2016

Bobbi Graziadei does indeed block anyone who is not a synchopant.  That includes but is not limited to deleting any unflattering comments from the Go Fund Me while posting her own unflattering lies about innocent people in her updates.

Go Fund Me does not even have the class or ethics to sanction the slander.

And the dead and dying kitten story makes me sick to my stomach.  Did they just starve and dehydrate as their tiny lives ebbed away? Were they put out of their misery and misfortune?  If so, I hope it was painless. Where were all the friends and fake lawyers and people who profess their love for Bobbi on the GFM page?  Couldn't they help? I would have taken some kitten and bottle raised them--I've done it before!

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#25 Consumer Comment

Shut down?

AUTHOR: Patti soo who - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 18, 2016

 If she is in fact "shut down" it would have had to have been done legally or it would have been investigated and dropped by now. That alone should make you open your eyes.

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#24 Consumer Comment

Who is "we??"

AUTHOR: Patti soo who - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 18, 2016

 Suerose, i don't know why any of us would Block "y'all" when there is nothing we would like more than to tell our stories on vanillabelle. I talked for hours with Bobbi when her 4 nursing mothers were in heat and couldn't nurse the kittens because it soured their milk. She had 2 other nursing mothers but there were too many babies for them to take on. It was killing the 2 mothers as well. Six new babies were born that night and 4 died. The remaining 2 were very ill. She decided to save the kittens, but she had to choose the males that would produce pretty new kittens. And she did.

If that isn't the definition of irresponsible breeding, i don't know what is. You know, even animal mills can produce beautiful animals. It's the ones that are sacrificed that makes them devistating. Bobbi has many many enemies now, as do all blackened breeders. And by blocking the complainers, the people she's ripped off, the people shes told too much, The people who started to see through this poor pathetic soul act, she can stay in business and like all con artists, that fill the internet she will continue to prey on the weak.

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#23 General Comment

More Lies

AUTHOR: Lonny - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 18, 2016

Suzanne Rosengold Ceppaluni, another Bobbi-ite lie. I know for a fact that Bobbi first Blocked Sue Evans and other Bobbi-ites followed. (WHO is WE??) What do you have to do with the kitten? How many times does Bobbi and her ites use the phrase "free kitten", when you know it's not true. The Agreement between Bobbi & Sue was to pay for the cost of neutering, and that was what was done. I know because I saw & heard it all, & was there in person when monies were exchanged. Were you?? Of course not, but you know it all because Bobbi told you. That's all you ites go by. What Stupidity, why would anyone want to give a cat back to a bad person, or self claimed breeder? We have previously been offered $10,000. for the cat by a Bobbi-ite. Figure that one out, we sure don't want WE to have it.

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#22 Consumer Comment

Blocked

AUTHOR: Suerose1963 - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 18, 2016

 None of us have blocked anyone. You all block us. If you think Bobbi is an unregistered unethical breeder why do you have a kitten from her? Nice to have a beautiful cat that's FREE. We'd gladly take your baby back if you're worried he's from a bad person

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#21 General Comment

COWARDS

AUTHOR: Lonny - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 17, 2016

The Real COWARDS are BOBBI GRAZIADEI, and all her "Bobbi-ites" like yourself that when challenged with the TRUTH, you ALL Block them and their proof of the truth. The challengers almost always show a post of the truth, and you "fools" run to Bobbi and get her LIES, and believe her even when it is in black & white in front of you, and you Bobbi-ites call her an ethical breeder?? Tell Bobbi and her ites to Stop hiding behind their keyboards and face the music. Example" It's been a proven fact, Bobbi is not a legally Licensed Breeder and has NEVER been LICENSED in NY. The FEE is only $100. per year, but She has spent $10's of $1000's on Breeders and other thing these past few years. Could she be AVOIDING taxes? 

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#20 Consumer Comment

 I am absent but would proudly put my name to it. Go ahead and believe it is false.

AUTHOR: Suerose1963 - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 17, 2016

 You won't be thinking it's false when that subpoena comes to your door. As for making Bobbi look worse that's not the case the reason she is not defending or typing anything on Facebook is because you all have gotten her shut down. As for here she's so sick physically from what you've done to her that she can't respond. You're just jealous because she has people who love her and care about her and would do anything for her. Get this into your thick head not fraudulent. She is not a bad breeder. Many love her babies. Sometimes things don't go right in business it happens. Haven't you ever bought a shirt you didn't like and had to take it back and had trouble . Same here. You were offered to be made whole you chose not to take that road get off your high horse and let it go. You have a business too of all people you should understand how would you feel if your business was reported too ripoffreport falsely. Think about that for a few minutes if your brain works

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#19 Consumer Comment

False reports and accusations by Babaette Marie Ross

AUTHOR: Janine Harty - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, May 16, 2016

 It is enough that you continue to bully and harass a wonderful gentle soul, but now you are falsely accusing others as well. I, Janine Harty never pretended to be a lawyer. You have no right accusing me of such or posting my personal information and pictures anywhere. You have completely crossed the line. It will not be tolerated. Bobbi and Vanillabelle Ragdolls must be left alone. you had an issue now get over it and move on. If people chose to conitinue to support and defend than that is their choice. The fund is legitimate and will continue. Those who chose to donate have every right to do so. We are adults and can think for ourselves. If we want to donate nothing you or anyone else that is bullying against Bobbi will make any difference.

There is a lawsuit and it will continue. It has nothing to do with me or the law office you named. You are fraudulently reporting my name and information. I ask this one time before any further action will commence- remove it all immediately. Leave Bobbi and Vanillabelle Ragdolls alone. I have a wonderful kitten from Bobbi. She is a loving, caring person with a heart of gold. She gives her life to her cats and all animals. You had an issue. It is a shame, but you lost nothing. Nothing is perfect in the world of business and things happen. It was not intentional nor malicious. What these bullies are doing is strictly malicious full of intent to harm. It should not be allowed.

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#18 Author of original report

To Suzanne Rosengold Ceppaluni

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POSTED: Monday, May 16, 2016

 What was posted was the identification of the person who called me claiming to be an attorney. That person is Janine Patrice (Harty) LiPonte. You are blocked from communicating with me on Facebook - not because I am a coward (if I were I certainly wouldn't be exposing all the illegal activity your friend and cohort are involved in. So - you and your cyber mob can just stop contacting me pretending to be attorneys, business partners or whatever - now.

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#17 Consumer Comment

Cowards

AUTHOR: Tickedoff - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, May 16, 2016

 If there is anyone who hides behind the keyboard, slanders, and blocks others, so that they cannot defend themselves, it is Bobbi Graziadei. I know this, because that is exactly what she has done to me. Why is it that Bobbi doesn't make a rebuttal herself, instead of having others do it for her? Speak up Bobbi Graziadei, we want to hear what you have to say about this report.

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#16 General Comment

The Complaint is Valid Suerose

AUTHOR: Documented Truth - ()

POSTED: Monday, May 16, 2016

Suerose, please get it through your head that this ripoff complaint involves the reporting of a fraudulent Go Fund Me Campaign.  In the campaign numerous individuals are fraudulently called bullies.  Can you please stick to the subject or just drop it.  This is in no way about you, nor is it about facebook. If you helped to concoct the fraudulent campaign then you should have put your name to it.  Then it would be about you.  But you didn't put your name to it. You are just making the campaign organizer/author Bobbi Roberta Graziadei look silly, and conspiculously absent.

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#15 Consumer Comment

Cowards

AUTHOR: Suerose1963 - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, May 16, 2016

 So once again the author of this post states she isn't bullying but yet posts more drivel that has no merit on Facebook. Babette likes to post things to slander others and then block them so they can't defend themselves. Stop hiding behind your keyboard and face the music.

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#14 Author of original report

True Report

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POSTED: Thursday, May 12, 2016

 For anyone claiming otherwise - including Cronie Carol - where's your proof? Both Sue's and Carol that have commented here are simply the emotional support team of an unethical & illegal (did you know that?) backyard breeding kennel. From what I understand - people who HAVE adopted from her should be demanding DNA to prove the pedigree's and registrations - IF they even received registrations from what seems to be a vile narcissistic sociopath. After posting my story in Bad Catteries Around The World on Facebook last year a few more people have had the courage to speak up about their own experience. As it turns out, I've discovered some of those have posted their own stories to the same. THESE are the others listed as bullies in the gofundme campaign. Vanillabelle is the one who should be sued for bullying and slander as it is She that has made a habit of doing so - often through you - for blowing the whistle on your so called friend. What she is doing is WRONG & ILLEGAL. If you want to be the sorry sap that contributes to extorting money from sympathetic souls based on misleading and false information - empty your pocket book & husbands bank accounts for all I care. For those that want to investigate before they donate - I hope they find this report - that's what it's here for. Vanillabelle is a prime example of why GOOD Catteries and breeders are SO appreciated. My original 'review' of Vanillabelle from Dec 1st 2015; I would like to share my story. Not because I believe this is a bad cattery per se - I think she takes very good care of the cats she breeds and/or rescues - I am leaning more toward ethics here - or the lack there-of. I have had a deposit with this ragdoll breeder Bobbi Graziadei of Vanillabelle Ragdolls NY http://www.vanillabelleragdolls.com/ since August in hopes of a seal color point female. In September, the breeder let me know that she definitely had ONE kitten available matching what I had been trying to describe and since then she has been tagging and sharing photo's & videos with us in text and on Facebook. We named her Freya – a cute little seal CP girl born Aug 11 out of Molly & Trey. I had been trying to speak with the breeder for the past month to schedule a definitive ‘coming home’ date. But she did not return my calls and only responded in messages that she had to speak with me. The spay had been scheduled for Dec. 1st and the kitten would come home after healing - that is until the breeder started texting me two days before to let me know the DNA tests returned confirming a greater value of the kitten (see screen shots). She told me that the breeder of the mother cat (Molly) now wanted MY kitten and called me (after the text notification of dna and greater value) - to discuss. I asked her if she couldn’t just give that breeder the money I was paying her for the kitten and she told me the kitten is now worth ‘about 5 thousand dollars.’ I asked if that breeder couldn’t wait for a kitten from the next litter and she told me to message that breeder. Vanillabelle started attempting to switch kittens during this time. She first told me I could have a blue from Molly & Trey that had been reserved for someone else. I refused – I don’t want a blue and I was not interested in putting someone else in the situation I was now facing. Then she offered a similar seal cp male – I want a female. Then she offered a totally different color female that would be ready to go home after Christmas. I finally just asked her if I could get a refund if I couldn’t have Freya and she said yes. The next morning (now one day before the spay date) – this breeder text’d me around 10am “OMG” and then “Omfg” – so I thought maybe I would still be getting Freya – but THEN my phone rang with a story about some one trying to break into her house and she was in the middle of making a police report. She proceeded to ask me if I knew anyone to get a gun from. Really?? Afterwards, she’s texting me asking if I have a gun to give her. I suppose she didn’t know how involved I am in and my knowledge on gun laws & responsible licensed owners – so I’ll give her a handicap pass on that one. But then it dawned on me (and this is the importance of including this detail)… EVERYtime some one is displeased with this breeders professional ethics… there seems to be some drama and she calls on what I’ll refer to now as a lynch mob. (I’ve seen this on facebook and have even been the victim of investing time on her behalf). I checked out her current break in story – no police report. I have yet to get a refund from this breeder for the deposit. I am not scorned and I am not worried about getting my money back. Thankfully, I paid the deposit using a credit card via paypal so the transaction can be disputed. I am once again in search of a seal colorpoint female, preferably before christmas and within driving distance from Honesdale Pennsylvania, if anyone has a referal. Thank you.

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#13 General Comment

Complaint without basis

AUTHOR: Carol - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, May 06, 2016

 The soul purpose for the filing of this report it to purposely discredit the owner of this business without basis. Due to a lawsuit filed against them ( with basis) the individuals responsible for this have gone on a lengthy campaign to smear her good name and now faced with a civil judgement have posted lies and innuendos some of which in my opinion are criminal on nature I have known the owner of Vanillabelle Ragdolls for years and her only downfall is being too trusting of others. She has given so much of herself with recuing homeless animals as well, it is quite difficult to watch this happen and this report should be immediately taken down. Period.

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#12 General Comment

This Complaint Is Valid Suerose

AUTHOR: Documented Truth - ()

POSTED: Thursday, May 05, 2016

Suerose, you seem to have lost sight of the fact that the substance of the complaint is an illegitimate crowdfunding site.

I do not have to do business with Vanillabelle Ragdolls of NY to know that the Go Fund Me campaign is a fraud.

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#11 Consumer Comment

more babble

AUTHOR: Suerose1963 - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, May 05, 2016

Hello Debbie Graziadei thank you for your rebuttal and nice comments about Bobbis care of her cats,

it is an accurare assessment. as for my recruitment of you that is false. being a proud famiy person i thougnt

you would come to the defense of your sister. its sad that a true family member cannot jump to the aid of a famiy

member. there is nothing my sister would ever do that would stoop me to this low level. there is nothing in any of your 

drivel that remotely suggests you have been ripped off by her business which is why i am not even sure why you are here.

 

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#10 Consumer Comment

still not sure how you were ripped off

AUTHOR: Suerose1963 - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, May 05, 2016

-you were offered a kitten

-kitten became unavailable.

-owner has a right to hold back kitten, it ultimately belongs to her

-you never went to her house

-you never saw the kitten

-you wouldnt go pick up the kitten

-Owner apologized and offered you a choice of 3 different kittens and free delivery 10 hours away

-you declined

-owner returned your money 

-you are made whole

-where is the ripoff?

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#9 General Comment

Chalon

AUTHOR: Lonny - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, May 05, 2016

First of all, are you Bobbies Attorney as she has claimed before? Or are you just a medeator for her as you said??

I also know this person, Bobbi Graziadei, I have met her in person. I beg to differ on who and what she claims to be by her and all her followers. All you people claim this report is false, show your proof. The only proof any of you claim, is that you know her personally, and always by what she tells you guys, which are usually Lies of hers, and no proof.

Anyone who diagrees with her is a "Bully" according to her. Then she blocks them from her sites, then comments on one or several of her sites and post how they are Bullies, then tells how devistated,mentally and physically she is, But she post updates, writes comments, God knows how many IM's and phone calls she makes during this Devistation periods.

Then deceives or "Sucks" you people into giving her money on her Gofundme/saynotobullies account. My opinion is, even if a lawer is being paid, his/her services are for other legal issues as well.

So if you are claiming this report is false, show your proof. You and others usually have to go to Bobbi, and of couse, she has no proo, but usully lies or ignores the request, or goes to another subject.

Also, go to BBB complaints. A complaint is filed about Bobbi not giving registeration papers or All the vet papers on Dundee, aka, Darcy. Bobbi responded, She never did business with a Sue Evans. We both know that is a lie. She also said there was not ant receipts. A copy of the check and receipt, she signed for her $100. cash,(I personally handed it to her in a motel room in Erie, PA) with 4 other people in the room with us. Another Lie of hers.

This was the issue she claimed you were her Attorney for.  You people claim she is pretty Distraght, I call it Vendictive, Mean, Lying, Deceiving, Unprofesional, and more.  

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#8 Consumer Comment

Remove my name from your list of bullies

AUTHOR: Ragdoll Owner - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, May 05, 2016

Vanillabelle Ragdolls is unlicensed and sold me an unregistered kitten in 2014. I left bad reviews on various sites (all true) and filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau when the owner failed to provide the kittens pedigree papers as promised. The owner Bobbi Graziadei and I never spoke to each other since May 2014 and are both blocked on social media. She has never been bullied by me, unless you all consider leaving honest reviews for her business as bullying her. Why is it that she cannot speak for herself, but instead leaves it up to naive, and gullable followers who view her as some sort of superstar in the cat breeding world? She is not even licensed to sell cats and does not register her litters, tho she claims in her ads and on the web that her cats are TICA and CFA registered. Instead of calling me names (bullying?) and accusing me of bullying her, why not contact me and ask to see the proofs I have from TICA and CFA that state she did not register my kittens litter, and the contract she gave me which states that I should expect to receive these papers. When this issue does go legal as you all state that it will, you might find yourselves on the wrong end of the law. Find out the truth before involving yourself and believing someone who has serious problems with reporting the truth. 

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#7 General Comment

This Complaint Is Valid Suerose

AUTHOR: Documented Truth - ()

POSTED: Thursday, May 05, 2016

This suerose person tried to recruit me to act to prevent reports such as this. I said no, as I know the report to be true.  The crowdfunding campaing is fraudulent and contains much false information.  The FBI is not involved and there have been NO threats on her life.The reporter indeed has documented evidence.  The post about trying to obtain a gun is correct. I guess this is one case where the New York SAFE act is a good idea.

 I too have MUCH evidence, written and verbal,and including legal documents that attest to the character of this breeder.  I have know this breeder personally for her entire life.  This breeder recruits people who have never met her to post these rebuttals which simply aren't true.

 It IS true that this breeder has rescued many cats and dogs and placed them in safe homes.  She is knowledgable in certain aspects of dog and cat care and health.  She deserves that credit.  However, it doesn't give her license to run roughshod over customers and recruit people to harass anyone who has a complaint about her unlicensed business.

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#6 Author of original report

Suzanne Lies

AUTHOR: - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, May 04, 2016

 I wish you all would just stop making me expose the truth with your lies! I am finding no pleasure in this. There is a group named Vanillabelle Zombies set up as a mediation attempt in order to correct having my name listed in this campaign under false pretenses and false allegations in order to solicit money from unsuspecting supporters. (You nor the business owner joined). I offered to change this report to reflect any facts that have changed regarding it - none have changed. If there are any bullies to be named - you would have been one of them and so would have been the Facebook group Vanillabelle & Friends. Come to find out this business isn't even licensed with NYS Ag & Markets . I am learning more and more about this business. How can you possibly attest to the condition of the cattery when you've never even been there! There are others who have different complaints - including no blue slips, no registrations Etc they complain and an attack team leaps on them. I am FED up with the ethics of this unlicensed, unethical backyard breeder. There seems to be no control and it needs to be stopped - NOW.

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#5 General Comment

False report

AUTHOR: Suzanne R - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 03, 2016

I know this report to be false.  I have also known this breeder for several years.  She is a caring, compassionate, and genuine person.  The knowlegde she knows about cats and kittens is astounding.  Her cattery is clean and her cats and kitten are well cared for.  The person filing this claim, in my opinion has a personal vendetta against the breeder.  I have no idea why, because she was refunded her deposit.  So, I'm having a difficult time understanding why this person feels she needs to spread a smear campaign all over the Internet against the breeder.   Going as far as creating a hate page on Facebook titled Vanillabelle Zombies.  That has a lot to say about the person filing this claim.  No moral character at all!

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#4 Author of original report

TO recruit #1 - Chalon

AUTHOR: - ()

POSTED: Monday, May 02, 2016

I recognize you from a current post in Bobbi Graziadei's "Vanillabelle Ragdolls & Friends" facebook group. YOU may not be aware of the proof. The owner of this company PRETENDS to be kind and generous. At first impression, one could think they were dealing with Whistlers 52yo Grandma - IMO. The ONLY revenge attempts made have been by the owner of this business with the assistance of a bullying pose. I suspect this revenge towards me is a direct result of the factual reports Ive made against this business - with PROOF. I have never been rejected a kitten - ever - by anyone. What's the name of the attorney, Sue?Perhaps the owner is just upset that I declined any of her replacement kittens. (Glad I dodged that bullet!) photo proofs here https://www.flickr.com/photos/140707122@N04/shares/84922j (which will be updated based on the evidence needed at any given time) they may also been seen in the following facebook group (one must join the group to see) - that these bullies are attemtpting to take down thinking they can hide the proof: https://www.facebook.com/groups/130579467110647/search/?query=vanillabelle

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#3 Author of original report

TO BULLY #1 - Suzanne R

AUTHOR: - ()

POSTED: Monday, May 02, 2016

I recognize you from a current post in Bobbi Graziadei's "Vanillabelle Ragdolls & Friends" facebook group. You are currently rallying the troops to donate to this campaign. YOU are well aware of the proof.

The owner of this company PRETENDS to be kind and generous. At first impression, one could think they were dealing with Whistlers 52yo  Grandma - IMO. The ONLY revenge attempts made have been by the owner of this business with the assistance of a bullying pose. I suspect this revenge towards me is a direct result of the factual reports Ive made against this business - with PROOF.  I have never been rejected a kitten - ever - by anyone. What's the name of the attorney, Sue?Perhaps the owner is just upset that I declined any of her replacement kittens. (Glad I dodged that bullet!) photo proofs here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/140707122@N04/shares/84922j (which will be updated based on the evidence needed at any given time)

they may also been seen in the following facebook group (one must join the group to see) - that these bullies are attemtpting to take down thinking they can hide the proof:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/130579467110647/search/?query=vanillabelle

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#2 General Comment

This Complaint is False

AUTHOR: Chalon - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, May 02, 2016

I personally know this report is FALSE.  I have known the owner of this business personally for several years.  I have seen her home and I have seen her cats.

There will be a lawsuit, and an attorney has been selected and is involved.  Unfortunately, litigation is expensive and this attorney requires a retainer in order to work on this case.

She is a kind, compassionate person with high ethical standards who provides the best care for her cats.  These reports have been filed by people with a personal vendetta against her.  She has been subjected to merciless, cruel bullying by a handful of heartless people who want to ruin her.  At this point, there is no alternative but to hire an attorney to file a lawsuit.  

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#1 Consumer Comment

Ripoff complaint false

AUTHOR: Suerose1963 - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, May 01, 2016

 The owner of this company is a kind, generous, and caring person who wouldn't harm a fly. This report is a false attemp at revenge. The person who filed this report was made whole and received her refund. She is upset because she was rejected for a kitten. As for gun allegations they are false as well. The person who filed this has made fraudulent reports based on false information to the named agencies. Bobbi has a legitimate legal case going and has retained a lawyer. I have spoken to this lawyer and have seen the retainer check. There is no fraud or falsified anything going on. The only injustice is the incessant bullying, harassment, badgering and attacks in this owners livelihood. There is much evidence and supporting statements to back up anything you need.

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