Report: FIRST CONSUMERS NATIONAL BANK And EXPERIAN CREDIT REPORTING AGENCY
Category: Credit Services
FIRST CONSUMERS NATIONAL BANK PREFERRED CHARGE CARD & EXPERIAN CREDIT REPORTING AGENCY RIP-OFF FRAUDULENT APPLICATION ACCEPTED AS MINE AND NOW THEY REFUSE TO SEND ME A COPY OF THE APPLICATION BEAVERTON OREGON
*Consumer Suggestion ..The answer to your problem is Debt Validation!
FIRST CONSUMERS NATIONAL BANK And EXPERIAN CREDIT REPORTING AGENCY
Fax:
BEAVERTON, Oregon, 97008
U.S.A.
Submitted: 3/7/2003 1:18:26 PM
Modified: 1/4/2004 11:11:03 PM
Glen
SOUTH WILLIAMSPORT, PennsylvaniaI have been fighting this since 1997 to get it off my credit report---to no avail. I first received notice from an Atty. Kay that I had a delinquent account with FCNB/Spiegels/eddiebauer/
newport.
I wrote to the attorney and explained I had never applied for a credit card from these people. He investigated and sent stating he was sending the account back to the creditor. I wrote to FCNB and ask for a copy of the credit application but never heard anything from them.
I applied for credit from Sears this past Christmas and was refused. I checked my credit with Experian and sure enough, FCNB has sold the account to Midland Management Corp. They contacted me for the money plus interest. Not only is this account on my credit report once for FCNB, but it is now on there a second time (2 bad marks!!!) with Midland. Experian refuses to do anything about FCNB other than reporting to me that they investigated and the account is mine.
I'm really mad now. I'm going the full gambit and reporting everyone involved to the Federal Trade Commission. I am still trying to get a copy of the original application for credit. I'm a business owner and have never been refused credit. I have 13 great accounts showing on my credit report.
Glen
SOUTH WILLIAMSPORT, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.
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Updates & Rebuttals:
- credit bureaus/collection agencies Frank [3/18/2003 4:54:57 PM]
- Double Reporting ..they can no longer report you to the credit bureaus as they no longer own that paper. Tracy L. [10/26/2003 1:49:03 AM]
- Experian will not remove anything from your credit report until they have some type of written proof Josh [10/31/2003 4:26:31 PM]
- The answer to your problem is Debt Validation! Bill [1/4/2004 8:06:38 AM]
credit bureaus/collection agencies
If for some reason you are delinquent on a credit card often the company that issued the card will report you to the credit bureau. Eventually they may turn it over to a collection agency. The original creditor reports to the credit bureau that you are delinquent and the date you first became delinquent.
They turn it over to a collection agency which will show it as a new account and start reporting it to the three credit bureaus with a new date. This is illegal and you should call them on this.
The fair credit reporting act allows a delinquent account to be carried for seven years. If the original creditor carried it for six years and then turned it over to an outside agency and they carry it for six years and then turn it over to another collection agency and they carry it for six years etc and the bad debt has been carried for 18 years or longer if you allow it. These collection agencies have to follow the rules but only if you catch them and call their bluff.
Double Reporting ..they can no longer report you to the credit bureaus as they no longer own that paper.
If the original creditor sells your information to a collection agency, they can no longer report you to the credit bureaus as they no longer own that paper. When the 1st collection agency has to sell your debt to another agency, they also have to remove there entry.
It is like double jepoardy in a court of law, it isn't legal or allowed.
Dispute these entries as being duplicated and that it is illegal for more than one company to try and collect a debt at one time, thereby eliminating the other entries except for the most recent. The credit bureaus do not check for duplicity, they aren't paid enough to do so, they are told to enter it, and they do not proof what they enter.
Please note: Lets say that Midland has you reported to Equifax, Experian, and Trans Union as seperate entries. These are not considered duplicates, but should be merged into one entry to show as one line item, not 3, even though they are reporting on all 3 bureaus. It's nerve wracking, time consuming and confuzzling, but I have been doing credit disputing for 4 years now and now how to read several different credit report styles. Always, always get a copy of all 3 of your reports from the bureaus. Not all companies suscribe to the 3, and may report on the ones you don't order. I have seen where a company only reports to Experian, others to 2. Be safe rather than sorry and get all 3.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Experian will not remove anything from your credit report until they have some type of written proof
First things first, file a police report. If you never applied for a FCNB/Spiegel/Eddie Bauer/Newport News card but they say you have/had one, something is not right. You can consider this fraudulent. Someone has been using your identity and needs to be reported as such.
Experian will not remove anything from your credit report until they have some type of written proof that the card was not yours. Thus meaning you need a police report showing this is not your bill.
Also call the new FTC Identity Theft Clearinghouse's toll free # (877)IDTHEFT for additional advice. Laws & Regulations vary from state to state so I won't pretend to know Pennsylvania's
The answer to your problem is Debt Validation!
Let me first say that you should read the fair debt collection act and the fair credit reporting act.
Now forget about police reports the bottom line is whomever is reporting info about your credit accounts to the credit bureaus are required to report it accurately having said that look at one of the collection letters you have been sent by them somewhere on the letter it must read you can dispute the validity of this debt in 30 days or they will assume its yours.
So send them a letter asking them to do just that prove that you owe this debt. That proof must be a signed contract by you for this credit card account 9 times out of 10 they cant produce it especially if its been sold to a collection agency and if they cant provide you with proof then this debt is not valid and how can you report a debt to experian if you cant prove that its yours so they must instruct experian to delete this account1
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