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Report: Civic Development Group - Millennium Teleservices - CDG Management

Category: Telemarketing Companies

Civic Development Group, LLC, Millennium Teleservices, CDG Management State Trooper Charity Scams Nationwide

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Civic Development Group - Millennium Teleservices - CDG Management

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425 Raritan Center Pkwy.
Raritan, New Jersey, 08837
U.S.A.

Submitted: 5/13/2003 10:13:01 PM

Modified: 11/25/2008 8:39:06 AM
Reported By

Ted

Canton, Ohio

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As many people know, telemarketers often skirt the edge of taste, ethics, and manners. However, Civic Development Group, aka Millenium Teleservices, aka CDG Management, is a particularly rotten organization from both an employee as well as the public's perspective. As a former employee, I am quite familiar with their operations.

First off, on paper, Civic Development Group and Millenium Teleservices, as far as I know, are separate entities. If you switch from one to the other, you must first be let go from one and then hired by the other.

For this I have some theories, namely to keep one end of the company running if the other is taken out of commission through legal entanglements, etc., but like I said, it's just a theory. In the physical world, on the other hand, they are the same company. They operate out of the same buildings, the same room, the same cubicles. Really, the only difference is that a banner on one side of the room says Civic and the other side says Millenium. Same management, staff, and equipment.

The bulk of Civic's business comes from telephone solicitation for charities. On the surface, not a bad thing, people calling around, asking for donations for state trooper's associations, fraternal order of police, and things like that. Of course, one would expect some costs to come out of the donations for payment of employees, long distance costs, etc.

This is where the fantasy idea and reality set in. On average, somewhere around 85% of all monies donated to the charities in question went directly into the coffers of Civic Development Group. Oftentimes it is more than that. I specifically saw figures of 12% as the amount of donations going to the actual charities. Why would they offer this information to the public or even a telemarketer in the company? Legally, they have to. If someone that is called asks the percentage, it must be given to them.
Well, in theory, anyway.

It doesn't stop there.

In an effort to boost the amount of money brought in, every effort is made by the company to project the image that an actually police officer or state trooper is making the phone call. We were specifically told to speak forcefully, with authority, and with as must bass as we could muster to give to the person on the other end of the phone the appearance of a big, burly law enforcement officer.

They even went so far as to have the unofficial policy of having no females doing the fundraising solicitations. This was somewhat spoken of to employees as well as put into action. During my duration as an employee of Civic, there was exactly one female fundraiser out of about 30 to 35 people on the Civic side of the building. This was also a form of pay discrimination as Civic paid $8 an hour while Millenium paid $6.

Basically, we could go take it as far as we could to be police officers without actually saying it.

There was a reason for this.

As I worked at Civic post- their late 90s ordeal with the FTC, Civic was already having many of their outgoing calls recorded by the FTC to be randomly reviewed for compliance. Having someone specifically say they were a police officer is definitely a no-no, but pretending to be one up to that point is still... 'OK.'

I must give them credit, however, many of their location choices for offices as well as recruiting tactics were genius. If one scours the web for 'Civic Development Group,' many hits for small local newspapers and Chamber of Commerce pop up. This is because Civic specifically targets small, down-on-their-luck communities to build facilities. Having spoken with a few lower-management folks, it has been revealed to me that these were not charitable decisions.

Many offices are located in West Virginia and Kentucky, for instance. They blow into a small, ex-mining town with high unemployment and promise to open a sparkling new facility with part- and full-time employment to upwards of 100 people. People in these small communities think they have hit the jackpot. Civic, on the other hand, loves this. Why? These are desperate, oftentimes uneducated people.

Many of these people have been out of work and have families to feed. $8 an hour, 40 hours a week is enough to pull a person above the poverty line. These people will give 110% regardless of the ethical dilemmas the work presents. Better yet, they inter-mingle ranks of telemarketer and immediate supervisors, promoting the uninformed and desperate to run the slave ships.

The supervisors typically work 50 to 60+ hours a week for approximately the same pay. Speaking of supervisors, they frequently shuffle them from town to town to keep them dependent on the company. Moving to Logan, West Virginia to be a manager sounds 'great,' until they get there and realize there are no more opportunities there than where they left. Having no other employment opportunities in a new town, they are stuck.

In the few cities they locate at that do have other industries, they target potential employees in the same fashion. They select the desperate, uneducated, and those least likely to question what they do. I specifically spoke with supervisors who deliberately and almost exclusively compaigned in public housing projects for future employees.

They are some pretty sleazy folks.

It's unfortunate because those who benefit the most are the ones that are never seen. Immense pressure from the supervisors is put on the telemarketers to produce, which in turn is put on the supervisors by their managers, and so on and so forth. Like I said peviously, they pick the most desperate people to employ so they will do whatever upper management would like them to do, and that is how it works.

Occasionally there were incentives thought up by local management and supervisors, such as:

Free beer to the caller who brought in the most money during the shift Free bag of weed to the caller who brought in the most money during the shift Free cigarettes, Black and Milds, etc. to the caller who brought in the most money during the shift.

Admittedly these incentives were infrequent, but they did occur. Also keep in mind that these incentives were offered regardless of the age of employee, of which I know ranged from 14 to mid-60s at my office.

These are the people handling the public's 'donations,' credit card applications (which is a whole other boat of borderline-ethics), and long distance changes (ditto.)

To find your nearest Civic Development Group office, do not attempt to look it up on the Internet or in the local phone book. From my experience, they were never listed in the phone book nor were we allowed to give out any information to anyone beyond current or potential employees. In fact, if you call the Civic Development company 800# they will not give you an address or phone number without knowing your employee number first. I was told this was because 'people like to do crazy things to telemarketers.' We were told to never, ever give out the address because someone may 'send us a bomb.' This came from management.

For more reference, check:

www.wa.gov/ago/releases/rel_charity_010798.html

http://www.wsoctv.com/specialreports/1962343/
detail.html

http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:LMvxFH09j2sC:www.ftc.gov/os/
1998/9806/9723025.htm+%22civic+development+group%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

http://www.civicdevelopment.org

Ted
Canton, Ohio
U.S.A.

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  • just hang up Joy [10/14/2004 10:10:07 AM]
  • SEX, LIES,DRUGS, and TERMINATION!!!!!!!! I.S. department employees were at each other's throats at Millennium Teleservices, a telemarketing service provider. LIZETTE [10/21/2004 9:36:28 PM]
  • As an employee we're urged to call the greivance line if we had problems, however if you do so....YOU GET FIRED!!! CAM [10/25/2004 6:18:24 PM]
  • they have some problems, but nothing like what was described in the Logan or Bluefield offices Victoria [11/3/2004 8:56:43 PM]
  • ego trip managers Jennifer [12/15/2004 9:28:47 PM]
  • What my experience was Rebecca [2/24/2005 7:36:22 AM]
  • RE: EGO TRIP MANAGERS please, allow me to retort. Pizza [3/26/2005 7:54:07 PM]
  • I Work for CDG and I TOTALLY disagree with all comments Amber [4/15/2005 4:46:49 PM]
  • Sex Lies And Drugs Every Job has it James [7/10/2005 10:29:05 AM]
  • CDG are the biggest scumbags on the planet. Joe [8/6/2005 8:32:25 PM]
  • CDG is equivalent to modern day SLAVERY Beverly [10/14/2005 12:19:07 PM]
  • hold on now. I am 19 years old and a manager. This place has done nothing but good for me. John [3/24/2006 11:40:24 PM]
  • They are expanding. Monica [7/24/2006 9:17:06 AM]
  • CDG IS GOOD FOR ALL SIDES C.w. [7/27/2006 10:21:36 PM]
  • Where should you REALLY place the blame? Keith [8/25/2006 10:00:53 PM]
  • My experience at CDG Carneil [11/25/2006 7:06:14 PM]
  • Telemarketer Michael [11/26/2006 8:50:14 PM]
  • Rebuttal: Telemarketer Carneil [11/26/2006 10:43:11 PM]
  • For those that actually side with the evil corporation known as CGD William [12/6/2006 6:45:38 PM]
  • The people, not the company Carneil [12/6/2006 9:16:25 PM]
  • LOUD, CONFIDENT AND ASSERTIVE! Joshua [12/10/2006 6:56:25 AM]
  • this company is horrible Deez [12/27/2006 7:39:20 PM]
  • Back from March 24, 2006 John [1/5/2007 4:57:10 AM]
  • We are the slaves to the workweek for a company that cant show they care for their employees u make me sick Frank [3/6/2007 11:12:09 PM]
  • Yep Steer Clear of CDG Badbiz [3/26/2007 10:30:58 AM]
  • WAY OFF THE MARK Craig [8/12/2007 8:27:29 PM]
  • Civic Development Group Brittany [2/20/2008 9:57:15 AM]
  • what a waste of space Pati [3/26/2008 9:26:59 AM]
  • your negative responses are foul and wrong Douglas Wayne Casto Junior [4/1/2008 10:15:43 PM]
  • as for the fine print Pati [4/2/2008 9:46:27 AM]
  • I understand...trust me Amanda [4/28/2008 10:26:30 PM]
  • I have worked for CDG for a long time and know this isn't true. Terry22 [6/20/2008 9:50:01 PM]
  • 'Do not LIe' Tom [7/20/2008 9:57:14 AM]
  • 'Do not LIe' Tom [7/20/2008 10:14:12 AM]
  • Not true. Les [9/13/2008 10:04:38 PM]
  • O yes, it's all true, if you dont read the others, read this one! Straycat [9/15/2008 10:16:36 AM]
  • If you have nothing good to say dont say it at all. Period. Point. END. Krystle698008 [11/10/2008 6:21:10 PM]
  • If you have nothing good to say then dont say it at all...... Krystle698008 [11/10/2008 6:22:11 PM]
  • CDG Rebuttle! Marj [11/25/2008 1:28:18 AM]

ExEmployee

Submitted: 10/14/2004 10:10:07 AM

Modified: 10/14/2004 7:55:46 PM
ExEmployee

Joy

Harlan, Kentucky
U.S.A.

just hang up

when you ask to be put on the do not call the managers told us to tell them that it may take up to sixty days, to follow rules and so that they would not be reported to corperate when in fact the managers told us to read the do not call rebuttals and then f3 f2 the call which ends the call and doesn't put their # on the list, it keeps our talk time up and our contacts low!!!

ExEmployee

Submitted: 10/21/2004 9:36:28 PM

Modified: 10/21/2004 11:24:30 PM
ExEmployee

LIZETTE

Beckley, West Virginia
U.S.A.

SEX, LIES,DRUGS, and TERMINATION!!!!!!!! I.S. department employees were at each other's throats at Millennium Teleservices, a telemarketing service provider.

I totally agree with everything you've said about CDG. You have left several things out that I think all who read this site should know, Ted.

I had the tramatic experience of working in several WV offices.

Let's begin with the Logan, WV office: When I began working at this office, I noticed the open drug market in the building. I watched managers, admins, TSR's sell drugs to each other. These employees would snort white substances, smoke marijauna, smoke something in glass pipes and boil substances in a spoon.

Management groped, fondeled, and had sex with TSR's and admins on a daily basis. These acts ocurred in the cubicles during normal business hours. Women crawled under the cubicles and performed in order to keep their jobs or to pay for drugs.

I complained numerous times to the 'grievance line' I can't tell you the times I spoke with a man named Scott. He stated,'The issue is under investigation'. It took Corporate well over a year to respond to these facts. Several people visited the office from Corporate, one was a black lady named Gerri and I think the other one was Walt, aka 'the terminator'

I was present when the 'terminator' called police and brought the drug dogs into the building. Keep in mind mgmt. had informed the entire staff of the 'drug raid'. Several people were termed that day. I decided to quit the next day.
Let's take a look at the Morgantown,WV office:As to be expected this office was just like Logan,WV except the drug usage was secetive in this office. In this office the drug of choice was alchol. The beverage of the day was alcholic drinks. Sexual Harassment was outrageous here. It was so out of hand that a 'big wig' came from New Jersey to acess the situation. I watched people wrongfully termed due to them calling the grievance line and participate in the investigation. Once again I called the 'line'and spoke with different people and was told'this is under investigation'. I chose to leave this office as well.

Finally, the Bluefield WV office: This office is the straw that broke the camel's back! In this office drugs, sexual harassment, and wrongful termination ocurred from day one. Managers openly called people bad names in their presence. I overheard mgmt. bragging how easy it was to get TSR's and other managers fired. If a manager didn't like you,you were guarenteed an FTC.
The one good thing about this office was the admin staff. They kept TSRs informed of changes and what to do if they came to them with a problelm.

Of course, sex, drugs, and wrongful termination was the 'standard operating procedure'in this office. I was informed the drug issue got out of hand here just like Logan WV. The 'terminator' and Gerri visited the Bluefield office and heads rolled. To be expected police and drug dogs came and we were informed 'the police are on their way'. Many employees got up and went to bathroom,and/or tried to leave the building.

Calling the grievance line would have been a waste of my time. After all this ocurred I made a vow to never work for CDG or Millenium ever again. I would rather be unemployed the rest of my life. I tried many different offices and my experiences were the same in all.

I decided to do this research on CDG and discovered this website www.cio.com/archive/040102/angst.html The corporate office seems to have serious issues of its own. I concluded this is why they don't solve any issues in their offices. At this website I discovered that the I.S. department employees were at each other's throats at Millennium Teleservices, a telemarketing service provider.

Productivity collapsed as employees spent their time trading vicious e-mails. The managing partner tried everything to quell the hostilities—from management training to group outings to ball games. They launched a yearlong intervention to root out the cause of the dysfunction affecting the 113-person IT department and found the culprit in the fractured lines of authority between the company boss, the CIO and eight senior managers.

Considering all the problems CDG had and continues to have, I would like to make everyone aware of the EEOC. If anyone has ever had a problem and you have made attempts to correct the problem and/or made people aware of how the problems is affecting you, please call 1-800-669-4000 and leave your name and address so they can address the problems. Also contact OSHA, this number should be listed on an OSHA poster in your call center break room. Once these agencies have been contacted, notify your local police department and make them aware of any and all illegal activities going on in your call center. I was not aware of this information and have discovered that if I would have taken these steps, CDG would have had to have taken these problems seriously and found a way to correct them. Making these organizations aware will protect your rights and your co-workers rights.

ExEmployee

Submitted: 10/25/2004 6:18:24 PM

Modified: 10/25/2004 11:30:15 PM
ExEmployee

CAM

Logan, West Virginia
U.S.A.

As an employee we're urged to call the greivance line if we had problems, however if you do so....YOU GET FIRED!!!

I worked in the Logan, WV office and was a top caller. I noticed lots of dealing being done with drugs and sexual activities with a Female mgr. and the Regional at the time of my employment. The female mgr. was on probation and had lied to the company about her whereabouts for a long while stating her son was sick, the truth was she had been serving a jail sentence for a DUI & stealing checks from a previous employer; when the former CCM quit and the ACCM was hurt on the job and had to be off - this female mgr. was stepped up to the ACCM position with a new Regional coming in. The two of them were constantly trying to intimidate the callers and if they didn't 'have their fix' then all the tsrs were in for really bad days. When everyone was getting fed up with the unprofessionalism - cursing on the floor, calling people names, sexual advances and remarks, oh and let's not forget the prizes that were being given out for sales....'get a sale....get a pill'. When I called the grievance line, it was 'arranged' for my termination. Later the female mgr. was arrested and put in the regional jail and the Regional mgr. transferred to New Jersey - perhaps to get away from the heat. Because the sad thing is when the callers were calling trying to get help, somehow the mgrs. always found out who...letting everyone know that the calls are not kept in confidence and investigated...the grievance line people would just, I assume, call down and tell them what was being said, of course they were going to deny these things, however the female mgr. got so 'careless' or should I say not caring - thinking she was untouchable that she had taken a picture holding a pain pill and smiling??????? She convinced corporate that it was a piece of tape????? In the beginning Logan was run like a business, however over the last couple years the place has plunged and it is the worst talked about place in Logan County. People are embarassed to say they work for CDG. Maybe if it got back to the basics and had sincere and helpful managers working again then it could work, but hey....if corporate don't want to know what's going on with their office then who are we to call and ask for help, it's apparent they don't care or don't want to know because 'Mr. Personality' Regional Mgr. is still at corporate - just with a different title, the female mgr. did get fired, but only after she was put in jail. To end this I want everyone to know that there has only been a very few good managers and it's ashamed Logan lost their finest and have to settle for the 'jokes' they have now.

ExEmployee

Submitted: 11/3/2004 8:56:43 PM

Modified: 11/3/2004 10:57:07 PM
ExEmployee

Victoria

Elkins, West Virginia
U.S.A.

they have some problems, but nothing like what was described in the Logan or Bluefield offices

I worked at the Elkins office and they have some problems, but nothing like what was described in the Logan or Bluefield offices. Our office does offer incentives to employees but they are things like a paid 1/2 hour or a 15 minute break. Also, we were told to ABSOLUTELY tell the truth about ANYTHING that someone we called asked and we were told where to find the information. We definitely were not to misrepresent ourselves in ANY way and they were continuously monitoring us to make sure that we were complying with all the rules.

For the most part, the managers were pretty decent. Once in a while you would have a jerk try to humiliate you or belittle you in front of others but this was not the way of most of the managers. Most managers were helpful and encouraging, which managers should be. What the bad managers didn't seem to realize was that once they yelled at a new person or sent them home early during their training period for not making the calls, they only hurt themselves and the company. Encouragement goes a long way with any employee in any company as a rule and negative remarks from bad managers just makes people do worse than they probably were already doing. It certainly doesn't cause an increase in productivity. Some of the managers should definitely have been canned for their attitudes but not the majority. A pat on the back and a smile along with a 'don't worry about it...you'll do better tomorrow and I will try to help' does a lot more good and that was the attitude of most managers.

The percentage of money that actually goes to the charity is small in my opinion but then Civic is hired by these organizations and I assume that the organizations know all this.

Does anyone else have any different opinions on this office?

Employee

Submitted: 12/15/2004 9:28:47 PM

Modified: 12/16/2004 6:27:57 AM
Employee

Jennifer

Madisonville, Kentucky
U.S.A.

ego trip managers

i work at the central city call center for millenium teleservices. at the central city call center we call and telemarket credit card applications. the way they train people is to suspend them for one to five days when they do something wrong they didn't know was wrong! i have been suspended 4 times in six weeks by 3 different managers, and it was really just because they could. i have been working hard and i got at least 20 sales last week, all of which were 'Good'. i had one sale bounce at quality control this week because i answered a foriegn man on a call the wrong way, i thought he had asked what the credit line was.... it was hard to hear on the phone and they said that was a violation to proactively offer the credit line....even tho the credit line is proactively offered before going in to recording for the 'sale'. anyway i have very few hours this week and so my paycheck next week will not be adequate for gas to go to work...nevermind christmas! they are jerks... i think they just use people to get 'sales' and they just keep hiring and hiring because all they do is suspend and fire and run people off...it looks shadier every day.... not to mention the silly string fight the floor managers and office managers had last saturday morning....there was people serviously trying to do a good job but the managers were running and chasning each other on the call center floor and also spraying silly string on people who did not get 'on their feet'. i will find someway to have christmas presents for my family...with or without those lowlife jerks at millenium teleservices....and Mr. Bill just may find out that 'accountability' means not having the managers run and play all the time in dangerous ways , as well as not suspending people so the managers can put debt waiver money in their own pockets from the corporate manager raffle... don't get a lot of sales with no debt waivers and mess up their debt waiver numbers! or you have had it... i called the grievnce line yesterday...so i've probably had it anyway. but if it will be arranged for me to be fired....then good riddance to those losers!

ExEmployee

Submitted: 2/24/2005 7:36:22 AM

Modified: 2/24/2005 8:42:32 PM
ExEmployee

Rebecca

Flat Gap, Kentucky
U.S.A.

What my experience was

I worked for nearly three months for the Paintsville, Ky office and it was okay at first. However, later on it got to where I dreaded going in. In the first place, the people you call are obnoxious enough, but you have to endure that to get that SALE. That is all that matters to them the almighty SALE. In the first place, if someone wishes to be removed and not be called anymore, then we are to comply. But some of the callers I contacted have been contacted over and over again even though some have been asked to be removed! I think that is harrassment.

They also had a problem with drugs at one time, but no longer. This has lead to such things as you can't sit in your car on your lunch break and some other silly rules, but that I can see.

Also, conditions have also gone downhill. We no longer had civic so it is just Discover Platinum card. And while the only incentives are lottery and cash prizes, this pales before the constant bellowing for sales, sales, sales! One lady actually had a caller hang up on her because the caller heard the manager bellowing for sales.

Then there is the matter of sick employees. I was allowed to call in with a doctor's excuse because I had laryngitis and had no trouble so I thought nothing of it. But I have seen cases of people the managers refused to let go home even though the person in question could barely stand up. One lady had a potentially life threatening condition and all they could do was belly ache about her three kick outs because she was too sick to do her job correctly.

For me, however, the last straw came when the weather turned bad. I could not even get out of my driveway without sliding. I tried to call in, only to be ORDERED to come in. The manager said that since he did not have any problems (he lived in town BTW)I should'nt have any problems either. He ordered others in as well and was overheard to be getting ready to write up those who could not come in. (I managed to come in but I found it suspiscious that I got suspended for a day the next week because of low sales. I am not entirely convinced that it wasen't retribution for trying to call in.) In the weeks following that I was off probation only to be written up for low sales on the same day by two different managers!

Another lady is being hounded because the second in command did not like her, and she is already bringing a lawsuit against the company. And I have heard other stories about civic callers being physically struck(in some cases leaving bruises) for not paying attention to their monitors, people being hired then being fired on a pretext (I think they were getting ready to set me up when I found another job with an INBOUND call center)Happily I quit about two weeks ago.

What makes me sad is that there are decent managers and workers there. They are not all bottom feeders. They are just trying to pay their bills like everyone else. A company is only as good as it's leaders.

Employee

Submitted: 3/26/2005 7:54:07 PM

Modified: 3/26/2005 10:35:26 PM
Employee

Pizza

Madisonville, Kentucky
U.S.A.

RE: EGO TRIP MANAGERS please, allow me to retort.

i work in this office. please, allow me to retort.

'the way they train people is to suspend them for one to five days when they do something wrong they didn't know was wrong! i have been suspended 4 times in six weeks by 3 different managers, and it was really just because they could.'

no, it was really just because you weren't doing your job.

'i had one sale bounce at quality control this week because i answered a foriegn man on a call the wrong way, i thought he had asked what the credit line was.... it was hard to hear on the phone and they said that was a violation to proactively offer the credit line....even tho the credit line is proactively offered before going in to recording for the 'sale'.'

every tsr knows not to proactively offer information in recording. well, every tsr that has active listening skills knows this. i guess you weren't listening during shift meetings, much less on your calls. and lets not blame this on someone being 'foriegn.'

'anyway i have very few hours this week and so my paycheck next week will not be adequate for gas to go to work...nevermind christmas!'

problem solved.

'they are jerks... i think they just use people to get 'sales' and they just keep hiring and hiring because all they do is suspend and fire and run people off...'

i think you were using them for a 'paycheck.'

'it looks shadier every day.... not to mention the silly string fight the floor managers and office managers had last saturday morning....there was people serviously trying to do a good job but the managers were running and chasning each other on the call center floor and also spraying silly string on people who did not get 'on their feet'.'

having fun is shady? loosen up a little bit.

'i will find someway to have christmas presents for my family...with or without those lowlife jerks at millenium teleservices....and Mr. Bill just may find out that 'accountability' means not having the managers run and play all the time in dangerous ways...'

i suppose you blamed not having money for presents on Mr. Bill. in reality, its your fault because you couldn't do the job. i hope you enjoyed this lesson in accountability more than the people you couldn't afford presents for.

'..so i've probably had it anyway. but if it will be arranged for me to be fired....then good riddance to those losers!'

good riddance to you, loser.

Employee

Submitted: 4/15/2005 4:46:49 PM

Modified: 4/15/2005 4:46:49 PM
Employee

Amber

Winchester, Indiana
U.S.A.

I Work for CDG and I TOTALLY disagree with all comments

I have worked for a CDG office in Muncie Indiana for over a year now. I am a female and started working there 2 weeks after our office opened. I have in NO WAY witnessed the things that you are reporting. It is horrible if these things really happend to all of you. I really feel like someone needs to speak up on their behalf. Of course, I can't speak for the offices in question, but I can speak for what has gone on in my office, and in all fairness, we did all work for the same management company.

First off, they don't discriminate against male or female.. or obviously I wouldn't of gotten hired, and lasted this long. It just so happens that men do sale better than women in fundraising, that is not CDGs fault.

We have in NO WAY pretended to be police officers, in all actuality we would get fired on the spot if we were caught doing this. We do have a representative come into our office quite often from the FOP to check out operations and never do we change what we are doing when he comes in.

There has never been any sexual harrasment involved in our office either. The CCM of our office would NOT tolerate this. And to be quite honest, we just had to sign sexual harrasment paperwork on this very thing. I've never heard of anyone being fired for calling the grievance line, and yes, i know of people who have.

We have had female managers at our office, as well as men. They do expect you to sale good, and to do this you must have a strong, confident and assertive voice. They have given us so many chances with performance, and tried to help us be better.

When bringing in doctors notes, they have always been honored, and only when you don't hit your required 24 weekly hours are your terminated for that. But then again, that's good business. You can't run a good business where people are not showing up all the time.

As soon as I read all these postings, I felt that my job, as an employee of a company that i adore, was to give some positive feedback. Again, I am sorry that you all feel this way... but why not blame your individual offices/managers, and not CDG as a whole, because our office is NOTHING like this.
Thank you for hearing me out. Good luck in all your endeavors!

Employee

Submitted: 7/10/2005 10:29:05 AM

Modified: 7/10/2005 10:29:05 AM
Employee

James

Lakeland, Florida
U.S.A.

Sex Lies And Drugs Every Job has it

Listen Man
I have been with the company for 4 years and here is the reality you need to see.First off nobody is getting robbed the people we call agree to give the dnation and if it was lying or deceptive then the FTC would lock the doors.Ya alot of the less fortunate people are the ones that end up giving but did you read the script in front of you.Lets asumme you did and in that case the donor made the choice to give.If you lies to get it then your in the wrong not Civic.As far as the % ya it could be more but its better than none and thats what alot of them would have had.

I mean dude i have worked for several offices and have been a mgr abd caller and am a caller again in a new office so i have seen several sides of civic.I have my issues with the company but the guys on this site make it sound so bad and im sure that you see it that way but what i see guys and girls wanting to whine about something that does alot of good in alot of ways.
This company does go to underdeveloped towns but how will that hurt he town its a job for alot of people and the remark in one complaint about employing people that are to stupid to know the diference is a very nice comment. I find it great to tell people thay are stupid so whoever wrote that one pat yourself on the back.
Ya there is alot of drugs in the company but you find me any company where at some level certain employess dont use them. As far as the belitteling of people i have seen that myself but it was always people who were not foing there job.

I mean they chose not to do it,They could do it but wouldnt.

Bottomline people is this its a job for small communities and school kids and it does raise some money for great groups so quit the whining and let people make there own choice.
Oh yeah i have made several calls to the grievance line and never fired i guess one dude things im speacial.

You guys whine too much

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 8/6/2005 8:32:25 PM

Modified: 8/6/2005 8:32:25 PM
ConsumerComment

Joe

Boston, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

CDG are the biggest scumbags on the planet.

First of all, let's get one thing PERFECTLY clear. CDG and it's employess are the biggest scumbags on the planet. They are the lowest forms of scum you will ever encounter. I HIGHLY recommend that ANYONE who knows or comes across any of these lowlife creatures to put them out of our misery as soon as possible. These are clowns that actually wake up in the morning, get dressed, drink their coffee and drive to work thinking 'I'm going to rip someone off today.' 'I'm going to annoy as many people as possible today' and they do this every working day of their life. They know WHAT they are doing, and the continue to choose to do it. THEY ARE LOWLIFE, LOW BRAINED PIECES OF CRAP, AND WHAT DO YOU DO WITH CRAP??? YOU SCRAPE IT OFF YOUR SHOE AND FLUSH IT DOWN THE TOILET. PERIOD.

THERE IS NO IFS, ANDS, OR BUTS. THEY PEOPLE AND THIS COMPANY NEEDS TO BE PUT OUT OF COMMISSION

ExEmployee

Submitted: 10/14/2005 12:19:07 PM

Modified: 10/14/2005 12:19:07 PM
ExEmployee

Beverly

Mt. Holly Springs, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

CDG is equivalent to modern day SLAVERY

I worked for CDG in the Logan, WV office and for the entire 6 months I was there..I was top caller for Discover. I pushed myself for sales so that the Managers didn't have to. I averaged 2-3 sales an hour..sometimes more. I personally witnessed cocaine and crushed pills being snorted from under keyboards. I saw managers buying drugs.We were paid hourly..not commision so no matter how many sales I made I was getting the same as the loser next to me.And to top it all off...my pay was DROPPED because i got a call kicked out..no matter how many sales I had made in relation to the idiots working with me.It's hard to get sales kicked out if you don't make any.I have worked at alot of places, but that was the most unfair, corrupt , dangerous , disrespectful, drug-infested slimepit I have ever been unfortunate enough to witness.

EmployeeInsider

Submitted: 3/24/2006 11:40:24 PM

Modified: 3/24/2006 11:40:24 PM
EmployeeInsider

John

Paintsville, Kentucky
U.S.A.

hold on now. I am 19 years old and a manager. This place has done nothing but good for me.

Please read carefully. I am a current employee of CDG/MTS in Paintsville, KY. I have been working at office 38 for almost 3 years now (June will make 3). I am 19 years old and a manager. This place has done nothing but good for me. A steady paycheck and a good look on a resume for management status at 19. Yes there was a time when drugs were bad and harrassment ran rampant but they have left these idiosyncratic ways behind. Offices are now drug free (the people may not be but the offices themselves are. what people do on their own time isn't my business), harassment has stopped and if it does occur it is met with authority, an overall helpful staff of managers are available, and frequent stops by HR (Human Resources) are made throughout the year. Yes we bellow sales sales sales! Lets look at the major equation for this industry: Company A wants to sell more products and get a much larger group of customers. Millenium Teleservices wants to make money. The TSR's and managers want to make money. The only way Company A is going to give Millenium Teleservices money for themselves and to pay the employees is to get results. Sales=Results. If we don't get sales then Company A will go to another telemarketing service to look for better results. So yeah you get hounded about sales. What happens when you work at McDonalds? HAMBURGERS HAMBURGRS HAMBURGERS! If you can't produce enough hamburgers for them to sell to the customers then they will find somebody who can, same with telemarketing. You either do the job or you don't. And yes of course they are gonna put the offices in areas where there is less growth and a much smaller amount of highly educated people who can get the better jobs. They (MTS) get more employees, and the people who don't have the ability to work at a bank or do accounting work but don't want to settle for $5.15 at WalMart can still make decent money for themselves and their families. I go recruiting for employees every week and always target the low income housing projects or the thrift shops and dollar stores. This is simply where people with not a whole lot of money go. Hell I buy most of my groceries at Save-a-Lot or IGA. I go to the Dollar Discount to get batteries or school supplies. If these kind of people need money and are looking for a decent paying job that CAN blossom into a career but have no training then why not tell them where to go. Also, this company doesn't fire you because 'they can', they fire you because you sit in your chair and don't do anything and are getting paid a portion of Company A's money for it. If you get that money you had better do some work for it. Most people just don't want to work. They hear that this telemarketing stuff is easy and decent money, only to find out it does take a bit of work and gets a little nerve-racking after a while. You deal with it and do the job the way you are supposed to. And lastly, the whole thing about the police organizations, fire, veterans or whatever it may be. The majority of those organizations don't have the time or the funds to reach such a large number of potential contributors. So MTS/CDG is contacted by the organization looking for a way to raise funds in an affordable an effective manner. CDG tells them they will give them X amount of the raised monies and the rest will go to expenses (hmmmm lets see: water bill, gas bill, electric bill, rent, PHONE BILL, property taxes and all federal, state and local taxes, they have to pay for employee wages including the TSR's, managers, admins, corporate officials, information technology guys that tell you what to do when something goes wrong, Human Resources officials, they have to pay for maintenance fees and equipment like monitors, headsets, amplifiers, keyboards (this stuff does break and often) and any fees for accounting or book keeping). If you were to take into account all those expenses for how many offices the company has working on a daily basis, the number would be enormous! Now lets look at this equation: Sherriff Office A wants to raise money but has none to start out with. They contact CDG who agrees to pay them 15% of all raised monies throughout the course of the campaign. Sherriff Office A has NO capital (that means they didn't pay anything to conduct the fund drive) so that 15% they are recieving is 100% profit to them. Since this money is 100% profit they can put it to it's full potention for the organization. So in closing, lets not dwell on Millenium Teleservices or Civic Development Group for the tactics that any business looking to make money is going to use. Every business has a special purpose, and it gets money because it is good at this one special thing. For McDonalds it is making food, for Dell it is making computers, and for CDG/MTS it is making calls, that simple.

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 7/24/2006 9:17:06 AM

Modified: 7/24/2006 9:17:06 AM
ConsumerComment

Monica

Newport, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

They are expanding.

I just wanted to make everyone aware that CDG Management has expanded and they have opened an office in Shiremanstown, PA.

431 Railroad Ave
Shirmanstown, PA 17011

Honestly I don't know how long they've been there, but they definitely setteled in a location that is very similar to the others, a place where there is many young kids and unemployed or low income families.

They are soliciting employees by putting small signs along side major roadways advertising 15/hr for full or partime hours.

I called to inquire and my first instincts were, 'if it's too good to be true it probably is.' There was an eight hundred number that I called first and they gave me the address and explained that I would be telemarketing for non-profit organizations such as local police departments. Lucky for me I searched the internet for directions and came across this site.

I feel that there should be more investigating done to determine wether this office is managed the same way as some of the previous horror stories explained, but I am not taking the chance to find out.

I am posting this message because there are way more negitive rebuttles about this company than good and that suggests that they are what everyone says they are.

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 7/27/2006 10:21:36 PM

Modified: 7/27/2006 10:21:36 PM
ConsumerComment

C.w.

Denver, Colorado
U.S.A.

CDG IS GOOD FOR ALL SIDES

I disagree with all the whinning about how bad CDG is. CDG performs a function of fundraising that many organizations cannot afford to do on their own. I personally have had a satisfactory experience with CDG and continue to use their services to consult on our fundraising Call Center.

Many organizations such as the Troopers Associations, Fraternal Order of Police and the like, have no real means for revenue. Sure, they have membership dues that everyone pays but those dues are not enough to provide the community service programs and services that these organizations offer. CDG performs a very important service to these organizations. They provide a vehicle for these organizations to do good community oriented service for the citizens of their community. Without the services of CDG the organizations could not offer assistance to the charities of which they support.

CDG offers a service and expertise to these organizations for a management fee. That fee is based on the amount of revenue that is generated by the TSR's and the CCM's. No one would or should expect a service for free. All these organizations enter into a contractual agreement whereas the fee or percentage is spelled out clear and without questions. We have had our own Call Center, where the equiptment such as the dialer and computers and all necessary to run an efficient office were purchased and maintained by us. Further, the callers and managers were paid on a percentage of revenue generated. The cost of running such an organization and believe me with all the overhead and the headaches of running the call center is enormous. Most of us, if we're smart will gladly enter into an agreement with CDG to take the headaches and the overhead for their service. In return we get a percentage of revenue in return to provide services and donations to charitable organizations around the country that we otherwize could not provide.

There are good and bad service providers for fundraising call centers. CDG is one of the GOOD GUYS in fundraising and have been nothing but fair with our organization.

Civic Developement Group has become a leader in this industry and I would recommend them to anyone who wishes to increase revenue for their organization so you can provide to the community.

Employee

Submitted: 8/25/2006 10:00:53 PM

Modified: 8/25/2006 10:00:53 PM
Employee

Keith

Muskegon, Michigan
U.S.A.

Where should you REALLY place the blame?

I will have been with CDG for 4 years in January and have had my positives and negatives with the company, but who should I place the blame on? Is it CDG, is it the management(which, coincidently, I am now a part of), is it the industry, or could it be me??

Everyone, everywhere has had there pros and cons about their past and present employers. But it, almost always, generally seems to be the EX-employee that has the most negative remarks to make. There are exceptions to that rule, but usually weighs heavy on that side. This seems to be no different.

Did CDG give me a fair shake? YES. Did the management staff teach me properly on how to do the job? YES. Did I listen and apply what was taught? I would like to think so. If I didn't, would I have been successful and still been an employee of the company? Probably not. These are realities that WE have to face at any position, for any company that employs us. Not just the so called 'DREADED CDG.'

After reading through all these statements individuals have made, I have realized that some people only have one thing in mind and that is to place the blame on other people for their failures and they seem to do it with extreme disregard for how it could affect others as well.

I am sorry for the people who believe they were subjected to wrong doings, or is it really just retaliation. I'm sure there may have been a few isolated incidents that could have occurred, but I also know they were handled promptly and properly.

Before I came to work here I was in a field where I was looked down on as a 'low life' for 18 years. Stock Brokers, Lawyers, Truck Drivers, even Doctors, get this title. And why? Because they have all found a way of making a very nice profit from the public. Are their drugs, sexual harassment allegations, etc...? Sure. You will find this everywhere you go.

So why use these to stand on to fight your battles? It it very shaky ground if you ask me. Find something sturdy, like a strong backbone and face up to the truth. Did I pay attention to what the the testing manager was training me on? Did I apply what was taught to me every shift I worked? Did I actually do the job I was paid to do or did I take it for granted and sit there and hope no one would notice me while bilking the company for my hourly wage?

Who should I REALLY place the blame on? Me personally? If I fail in my position, I obviously did so because I either didn't have the ability to perform the tasks or I just plain ole chose NOT to do them.

So, who do I blame? Sheesh, that's a tough one to answer.

Now as far as TED goes, well he must have witnessed some extra ordinary raffles. The only incentives that are being given away that, I am aware of, are monetary, store bought, or company logo prizes for different acheivements made by the tsr's. And these are given because of all the outstanding work done by all the exceptional employees that we have in our call centers. They are the friendliest and hardest working people you will ever get a chance to meet in ANY industry in the U.S. and Canada.

EmployeeInsider

Submitted: 11/25/2006 7:06:14 PM

Modified: 11/25/2006 10:55:54 PM
EmployeeInsider

Carneil

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

My experience at CDG

I have been working with Civic Development Group for a year and a couple of months and these statements that generalize the company as being scumbags of the earth, unethical, and scam artists are not true. These guys and their strategies for solicting people for donations for charities that they work for is potent. If they did door to door selling they would be phenominal at that too.

Men sell better than women, that is not the company's fault, the corporate world has believed that even before civic and millenium went into existence. Drugs, sex, and lies is what unfortunately make this particular world go around. Consider location before you blame the company on for the material that comes into their offices. And hell, they open their office to people who normally can't get jobs anywhere else, remeber that position to the people who wrote their statements.

Bottom line CDG is number one at what they do. You have your arguments, your wins and losses but the aura of the people in any given cdg office determine the togetherness of th ecall center and its success.

ExEmployee

Submitted: 11/26/2006 8:50:14 PM

Modified: 11/26/2006 9:36:19 PM
ExEmployee

Michael

Florence, Alabama
U.S.A.

Telemarketer

This company is shadier than any I have incountered and I have been in this business off and on for 20 years. Everything that was stated on the operation of the offices is true, furthermore, it should be reported to a prospective employee of the FCC ongoing investigation in the companies practices.

They do one thing that I found most disturbing: they call it: Cross Tapping. Basically, what this is consist of a list of contributers from other police or fire organizations that CDG has purchased or used in the past and they call these unwitting people on the pretense that they are renewing a previous pledge; or go so far as to say that the organization never received the pledge and solicite another: only this time using whatever 'charity' (FOP, Troopers whatever the office calling is pitching)

This is THE most deceptive practice I have ever witnessed and one that needs to be addressed by the FTC and FCC. It is a shame that police and fire organization get in bed with mafia types such as these.

Employee

Submitted: 11/26/2006 10:43:11 PM

Modified: 11/26/2006 11:19:25 PM
Employee

Carneil

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

Rebuttal: Telemarketer

Yes, It is C. Brooks again. How dare you hate on cross tapping? How dare you say that the company would give donors who have donated to a fire fighter's organization the illusion that they are renewing a pledge? On our screens since you seem to know so much it tells us what to ask for. It only gives what to at least ask for it says nothing about what they gave last. It only shows an amount the donor can get tied down at. Is their anything wrong with that. NO!! It's selling!

All the donors are getting is a similiar spill and most if not al of my co workers and co managers inform the donors of where the money goes when asked and also when not asked. Taps is the most profitable form of fundraising!! Why not ask people who have donated before ( which basically make it a taps call regardless of what they donated to) to donate. You are probably saying this because you probably can't hold it down on the phones. I held it down in two offices!! Providence, R.I (RIFOP) and Attleboro, MA (MAFOP). You can't hate on a system that works, and I hate and love to say it, these motherfuckers are gonna be around for ever. Face it, no matter how many times a year we or they call, they're good at what they do. Face it, It's a CDG thing!!!!!

ExEmployee

Submitted: 12/6/2006 6:45:38 PM

Modified: 12/6/2006 8:28:55 PM
ExEmployee

William

Hades, New Jersey
U.S.A.

For those that actually side with the evil corporation known as CGD

I used to be just like you. I was once a manager, I encouraged people to work there. The business itself is not at fault and the money is great if you can do the job right. I feel the fact that they hire in low income areas is good for the community as well. However, they do not bother to do background checks on new hires from these areas, allowing; rapists, child molesters, burglars, armed robbers, and drug dealers/addicts of all kinds, to FLOURISH there. How hypocritical can you get? THIS IS A FUNDRAISING CENTER FOR POLICE!!!

Not only do they allow this to happen, it is clear to me now that they actually encourage it. One manager has a history of herion sales/use and is currently on probation in monmouth county. Another has done 7 years on Rahway state prison for armed robbery, and another (the manager who is still in charge of hiring no less) has had uncountable sexual harrassment calls placed against him (proving the greivance line is horsesh*t) and a criminal history including crack cocaine sales (among other serious charges, just keeping it as short as possible and trying not to sound redundant)

I know all of this because all you have to do is type a name in njdoc.com website and the criminal history pops up with a picture. I have done this with every employee I could name and was SHOCKED at the charges my managers and co-workers had been found guilty of.

If they actually did criminal background checks, and maintained the facilities the way a genuinely professional business does, I would still work for them. I had good benefits and made 17+ dollars an hour, yet none of that is worth my personal safety and human integrity.

I can only hope that it is different in other offices, but as far as the NJFOP office is concerned...They need fire more than half the employees or the place needs to be condemned. That is the only way I would ever walk back on the premices (other than to get my final check this friday)

File number,
150087

Employee

Submitted: 12/6/2006 9:16:25 PM

Modified: 12/6/2006 10:07:52 PM
Employee

Carneil

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

The people, not the company

I feel your anger or concerned may be misdirected. Yeah, I understand taht damn there everybody in your call center has a record. That's not the NJFOP's fault or Cdg's fault. They offer people who can't get jobs anywhere else a new lease on life. And if those people who come into the office wish to continue their ways they'll just escalate themselves out of the door as if they were has-beens only to come back for probably the second, third or maybe the fourth time.

I'm fortunate that I've been at two offices and got to work with some great people. I don't know if its my aura. I'm still a college student and believe it or not none of the bad habits such the smoking of cigarettes, marijuana and other drugs have phased me since being with the company. I don't smoke and that hasn't alienated me from my co-workers at all. Our office is connected to th eactual lodge for the Fraternal Order of Police, I don't know how your office is set up. Police officers are always in the building. The President of the FOP is almost always there.

I don't know maybe that may be the difference. This is the office in Attleboro, MA I'm talking about. But don't quit because of those lowlifes who want to do nothing for themselves. Get yours, milk out the managerial thing and really wait for the best 'best' thing to come!

One Love,


C.

Employee

Submitted: 12/10/2006 6:56:25 AM

Modified: 12/11/2006 2:06:20 AM
Employee

Joshua

Coos Bay, Oregon
U.S.A.

LOUD, CONFIDENT AND ASSERTIVE!

Six months ago signs in my small community began popping up offering 12$ per hr. For a few weeks I ignored these signs, before I was given a card. I am a salesman by trade, thus, one of the easiest sort of people to be sold and in my town 12$ per hr for unskilled labor of any sort is unheard of. Why bother even trying, probably just some pyramid scheme, or telemarketing scam... Who wants to sell Water Heaters at dinner time? Ironically, I found the aforementioned card right outside my Parole Officers Door, (Yes, I too am one of the bottom feeding scumbags whom WILL gladly sit tucked away in a cubicle to solicit donations for a law enforcement official if that is what will earn a paycheck, and No, I see absolutely nothing hypocritical about that).

As it turns out, the association for which I raise money for had been paying CDG to handle the fundraising up untill spring of this year. Now, CDG is consulting for my company... So, that is my relationship with CDG... While I do not work for them personally, the manager of our new fundraising center does. I might mention right now that this man is an ASS! But, I like him. A few months into my ongoing employment, I began to lose faith in my cause. I am a very effective rebuttaler and my ability to overcome objections comes from a long history of sales positions ranging from Kirbys to Visa/Mastercard Business Accounts. Despite my aptitude for this high intensity, performance based job, I began questioning where exactly these 'Fully Tax Deductible' donations were going. If we were such a great help, then why do the very people we support have no clue who we are? I began doing my homework, which eventually led me here.

Several good points have been raised on both sides of this debate. On the one side, If not for CDG and the 10% of the several 100,000$'s they raised, then roughly 30 people here in my economically depressed community would not have such an opportunity for a 12$ per hr job. As was stated by another employee, any monies padding the pockets of the intended recipients was 100% profit. Because the association I work directly for received a mere 10% while CDG received 90% untill this year, they were able to start there own fundraising center with CDG consulting 'Of course, there are costs associatied with the drive, but they are all paid directly by the Association'. Now, 6 months later, our office is one of the top 5 in the nation! Our taps section writes 300+ on a daily basis! And the list of communities around my state whom receive benifits has doubled! Bravo! CDG. Personally, I look forward to a healthy paycheck every Friday, and there is nobody to thank but the folks from CDG, such as the aforementioned ASS, whom flew all the way from West Virginia and sacrificed 4 months of time with his family to open the office.

Therein is the other side... My experience with an actual CDG employee is similar to those mentioned. The bossman has no qualms about letting the females (whom all do quite well in cold) know there is no chance they will ever call TAPS. 'Everbody on your feet!'... 'This is unexceptable!'... 'We will not miss this Min!' and 'Everybody in this office has ADHD!' are only a couple of the more mild expletives I hear for nearly 40 hours a week. Would it be too offensive to mention that I can bear these types of dispersions because I know that after work, me and the West Virginian will most likely hit the bar together... When foul words fly from this fellows mouth I know we done did something not right... No, a manager is not allowed to yell, cuss or threaten to run you over with his car, but heck, beats McD's anytime! And, as long as you know how to roll with the punches, rebuttal correctly and most importantly excercise some listening skills, you should be able to convert 1 out of 10 beeps (in cold)... If you find yourself on the grievance line, useing the 800 number on the break room payphone, it's probably because of the 9 out of 10 beeps which told you to hang yourself! As far as being encouraged to imitate a law enforcement official, well, no body had to tell me to do that! My first day on the job, I realized that as long as these people do not ask, I do not have to tell. In fact, I push the envelope so close that I have had more than one talk with corporate... But, I will never let slip from my neck any literal claim of being an Emergency Responder. 'No Mam/Sir, I am just a fundraiser for these guys and gals, their job is a bit too hairy for me' Let them think whatever they need to feel comfortable about entrusting the voice on the other end of the phone to put their hard earned money to proper use... After all, no matter what percentage is used, it is still a dollar amount which was not available for use before. Should I tell them I am a felon? Would that inspire confidence? Or, perhaps, because I am a felon, a less able person should be filling the seat which, no matter how many people show up at any given time, will always have reserved for me. Should that persons ability to alway make the best choice mean that the people whom we raise these dollars for suffer a loss in dollar amounts per hour. If a body whom had no criminal history (or any body for that matter) were to fill my chair that is exactly what would happen... I am not saying that because I have a criminal record, I am the better salesman, I am saying am a better salesman, because I am.

Moving forward with this comment, I would like to reiterate and make clear my feelings. I am incredibly thankful for CDG, as are the Emergency Responders whom received the benifts of CDG's labor. I don't like being yelled at, and I have in fact yelled back more than one time at the risk of losing my job (all part of rolling with the punches and being confident, if you are writing over the room, what are they gonna do?), I was at first very skeptical of the nature of this beast and lost faith in the cause, but now (especially after some of the things I have read about CDG right here on Ripoffreport) I am very comfortable with taking the money straight out any residents wallet who is fortunate enough to own a phone. I am a Felon... I am on parole... I have 3 children and an ex-wife... I have a GED and an incredibly Loud, Confident and Assertive grip on my employment situation! I look forward to running my own TAPS section in the years to come. In the last couple of months BAF bonuses alone have paid my rent! Again, I say BRAVO CDG!

ExEmployee

Submitted: 12/27/2006 7:39:20 PM

Modified: 12/27/2006 10:16:49 PM
ExEmployee

Deez

Pikeville, Kentucky
U.S.A.

this company is horrible

i worked for the pikeville, ky office for a very long time. the employees are verbally abused and threatened on a daily basis. 99 percent of the people who work there are on drugs. the admins in the office sell drugs to the tsrs. every day the admins and managers and select employees go into a storage room in the back and smoke pot. at times it was hard for me to concentrate while calling. they even let people (the people they buy drugs from) that don't work in the office come back there with them.

i have seen pills being crushed and snorted in the bathroom on the toilet paper rolls and out of the cubicles almost every day i was at work. wwhen someone calls the greivance line and tells them about it, the managers know in advance and they all cover for each other. then they find out who called the greivance line and have it arranged for their termination. if you work for this company and you value your job at all, do NOT call the greivance line. please trust me on this. they will see to it that they can listen to your calls and MAKE UP something to get you fired. finally the way they get sales will make you sick.

they only call the state of missouri and it keeps getting harder to get sales. what they do is try to cherry pick leads until they find an old person or a hispanic or someone that doesn't understand english too well. they read the script 100 miles per hour no matter who answers the phone and at the end yell 'THE GOLD IS 55 OK?!?' by the end it wasn't just 55 but just any number they could make up. 86. 92. just whatever. then the people who of course had no idea what just happened would say ok back and they chuck it though. i've seen more wood pledges go through at this office than you can imagine and they never get fired for it becaue they lead the room so the managers want to keep them so they can hit their precious mins. for the longest time i was blinded by the paycheck and told myself that i was actaully doing good for the police when instead what i was doing was preying on innocent people and forcing them to take something that they never asked for. i used to be proud to work there but now i am ashamed that i raised that company all the money that i did. we lie to people. we tell them they get 100 percent of the money.

i know for a fact that they get in the 27 percent and CDG gets the rest. we are told that we work DIRECTLY for the mofop so our salary is counted in the 100 percent. this is obviously just a clever hoax. in conclusion i am probably going to hell for working there as long as i did and if you ever think about getting a job there.... don't. unless you're a drug dealer or a scam artist and in that case you'll love it.

EmployeeInsider

Submitted: 1/5/2007 4:57:10 AM

Modified: 1/5/2007 10:13:22 AM
EmployeeInsider

John

Paintsville, Kentucky
U.S.A.

Back from March 24, 2006

Ahhh yes it's me again. I posted a rebuttal earlier on March 24, 2006. I am now 20 and still a manager at Millennium Teleservices while I work towards my criminal justice degree at a local community college. After I complete it I will be going to work with the Kentucky State Police. The National Guard pays my tuition and I still work my 40 hours at MTS. It seems there has been alot of activity towards this topic, both postive and negative, since my last viewing of this page. I do hope that those of you who have had a negative experience with CDG/MTS will maybe, if not at a better job now, go back sometime and try to see the business for what it really is. Lets go over some more key points shall we:

So I will reiterate on some of my points went over in my last rebuttal. CDG/MTS is not a criminal, unethical, or otherwise bad organization. YES they do only give 10-20 percent of gathered monies to the named organization. Do I really have to give you this formula again??? The organization (FOP, fire fighters, veterans, etc) doesn't have any capital into the fund drive! They don't pay anything (thats the equivalent of ZERO,0, nada) to conduct the fund drive. They don't pay the phone bill, water, electric, rent, TSR (telephone service representative) wages or manager wages or admin wages, book-keeping, profit and expense analysis, TAXES, equipment like headsets, amplifiers, monitors, keyboards. So if the FOP payed for all this, considering a headset and amplifier cost $267 (multiply that by 66 cubicles. Not good at math? Oh thats only over $17,000) I seriously doubt the FOP can afford that to start off their fund drive. Oh wait! The router for the dialing system costs over $35,000. Lets add that in! Then we add in monitors (which costs around $190 each. Still no good at math? Thats only about $12,500) and we can see that the FOP is making a killing off this! If they bring in $55,000 then that is like free money!

And yes for those of you who call for the FOP you are taught to sound assertive, loud, clear, confident, and to talk with a deeper voice. Is this to make you sound like an officer? Well yes of course. But! The second that potential contributer asks 'Are you an officer?' you are taught to immediately tell them no and explain you work for CDG and only raise the funds. Why is it this way? Well it could be because the FTC (Federal Trade Corporation) does spot testing of recorded calls. Everything you say over that mic is recorded. EVERYTHING. So if you tell that person you are an officer, you risk getting fired and the company fined lots and lots of money. Keep this in mind. When Taco Bell had an e-coli outbreak what happened? The affected restaurants got shut down till the problem was solved. If CDG/MTS was to do something illegal then they would be shut down as well. It may seem to some that calling for the FOP or another organization is wrong because you are taught to sound like an officer but this is only a selling technique. Car salesmen have theirs, employees walking the floor of a store have theirs, insurance salesmen have theirs, anybody and everybody that sales anything has some sort of special selling tehcnique and i guarantee if you worked for them you will find one that might make you feel 'uncomfortable'.

On to the matters of conditions in the call centers. You show me one large national business, just ONE, that doesn't have issues with drugs, sexual harassment, supervisor abuse, or general unwanted situations in the job place, and by-god you can have my debit card and use it as you wish. You to Wal Mart, and you are probably going to find someone standing outside on break smoking a joint. You go to McDonalds, and you are probably going to find somebody making your double quarter pounder that snorted something before he came to work. You to any business around the country and you are going to find an employee sexually harassing another. And oooh here is my favorite part, supervisor abuse. Ok so the supervisor says SALES SALES SALES. Do you wonder why that is? Probably because neither you nor him are going to get paid if you don't make some sales. Sales=Money in telemarketing. If you don't make any sales, nobody makes any money. I'm sure those of you reading this that have worked for the company have at some time recieved a piece of paper called a DA (Disciplinary Action). It states what you did wrong and what the action taken is going to be. Now TSRs get them for poor performance, not showing up for a scheduled shift, failure to comply with policies, or basically doing bad at your job. But did you know that the corporate guys in New Jersey can turn on their computer and listen to any TSR in any call center in the nation? And if that corporate guy listens to some random caller, performance isn't very good, and he doesn't hear a manager in the background trying to motivate callers to do better, then the manager gets a DA. It's all about doing your job the way you are told. Callers and told to be loud and enthusiastic, to rebuttal when appropriate and to be polite. I know of numerous occasions that I myself and other managers have given a TSR a DA for being too pushy with the customer or being rude. So if a caller doesn't do their job, they get a DA (starting with a warning and moving towards termination). Managers are told to motivate, support callers, write evalutaions, and hold together the infrastructure of the office. If we don't do our job right, we get a DA.

Lastly I would like to touch on the subject of employees, mainly TSRs, themselves and the overall great job that CDG/MTS provides. I was 16 when I was first hired at MTS, June 11 of 2003 to be exact. I have been there 3 1/2 years and have never been fired. Why do you think this is? I DO MY JOB! I hear alot of people, and see them on this page, saying that you get fired 'just because the manager can'. Oh man this is not true. First of all anybody that gets fired must get fired by the CCM (call center manager) or ACCM (assistant CCM). And second of all, do you think if you make a profit for the company that they will want to fire you? Of course not, you are making them money! But anyway not to get off subject. MTS has provided me a steady income and a wealth of opportunity for advancement within the company. I'm 20, I'm a manager at a call center in a multi-million dollar company. How do you think that looks on a resume??? Leadership ability, communication, consistency, hardworking, goal-oriented... these are all things that are going to be going through an interviewers mind when deciding if I should work for his company or not. And this is an opportunity opened up to all other employees! Another guy who is 19 is a manager, then there is another 19 year old manager and another 20 year old manager, others who are in their mid twenties or early thirties, a few in their forties, and one who is over 50! We have employees still in high-school just lookin to make some cash for gas and extra stuff throughout the week. We have employees with a wfie and a couple kids that work full time to support their families and take their job very seriously and do good at it. We have employess who are in their 60s! They've already retired and are just looking to make that little bit of extra spending money.

So you see, CDG/MTS is not a bad company. They have their faults just like any other company out there whether it be drugs, harassment, or abuse. And these faults are met with authority (a few people mentioned Gerri, the Human Resources lady earlier, and she WILL come to the office to investigate claims). So remember, if you do your job properly and within the policies set forth by the company and the FTC, you will make decent money and very easily. All you have to do is put forth a little effort.

By the way, the Paintsville, KY office no longer calls for the FOP or even Discover card anymore. We now call for the Columbia House dvd club and BMG music service. We have a few other programs that have circulated through the office, and are currently dialing for the Nascar club.

So in closing I would like to remind you that what CDG/MTS does it not illegal or they wouldn't be doing business. You may have had a bad experience but you will have those with any job. It's all part of life.

EmployeeInsider

Submitted: 3/6/2007 11:12:09 PM

Modified: 3/6/2007 11:19:53 PM
EmployeeInsider

Frank

Oshawa, Ontario
Canada

We are the slaves to the workweek for a company that cant show they care for their employees u make me sick

How, on the earth does this happen. Honestly i respect everyone who has been employed by millennium and i say this because i know that its hard going in especially everyday to repeat the same thing continuously over and over, its repetitive I'm not going to lie. I personally have been working with the company for over a year, The main problem with this company is that the Hotshots looking at the numbers that evaluate u as an employee don't actually come inside the office and see what u as an employee actually bring to the office.

My biggest concern with this is that For the year that i have been there i have only received two pay evaluations and this has only been in the last 3 months, the company has NEVER issued me a raise and have issued me 2 pay deductions, i refused to sign for the first one and was given a D.A. and then today came along i was deducted 20 cents if i refused to sign it i would have been terminated which is a joke.

Now the Oshawa office #43 i work in is unbelievable SIMILAR to the other offices in the united states. Employees doing rails of cocaine in their cubical popping perks and extacy and smoking weed during every break in a 8 hour day. Like i wanna quit this shitty company because i feel like f.s. everyday, show some fucking interest for ur employees MTS, people who make a 1000 dollars in a shift let them have a day off, People who have been there for a year appreciate that stuff. its hard for someone to stay there for a month. 400 people have been through the Oshawa office since it has opened in feb 2006, and i am of the elite tappers in the office whose been there pretty much the whole time i just don't get why i cant get a raise my fellow employees feel i should be deserving the raises that they are receiving because i have truthfully busted my ass and no one from corp has come to Oshawa to look at the office and actually discover one of the best offices MTS has .

The company makes millions, so why cant u fly your asses to Canada and start giving back to the people who have showed seniority in the office because a million dollars says anyone from CORP can not maintain solid numbers for a full 40 hours week like us Canadian callers do. Stop being so cheap and stingy with you employees SERIOUSLY.. its a joke. i Ive put in my best effort and for the company to take money away from me without giving me raise is an insult and i feel like another slave to the work week

Wow MTS GET IT TOGETHER

ExEmployee

Submitted: 3/26/2007 10:30:58 AM

Modified: 3/26/2007 11:16:14 AM
ExEmployee

Badbiz

Seguin, Texas
U.S.A.

Yep Steer Clear of CDG

I worked there 2 yrs and was a top tapper. FYI starting pay here is $11.00 hr.

I drove by there after leaving my doctor's. I am under treatment f