Report: Bank Of America
Category: Banks
Bank Of America ripoff for $29,915.00 dollars from my bank account savings Seattle Washington *EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!
*Consumer Comment ..Your image is faltering, Thomas.
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Submitted: 4/5/2005 1:54:07 PM
Modified: 7/20/2008 12:15:44 PMThomas
Shoreline, WashingtonBank Of America gave away $29,915.62 of my life savings and won't give me one red cent back. Bank of America cashed 42 forged checks at 8+ of there branches while I was sick and I ended up in the hospital and under 24/7 medical care for a month. 
Bank Of America ripoff for $29,915.00 dollars from my bank account savings Seattle, Washington
This is me picketing the Northwest headquarters of Bank of America in downtown Seattle today 5/20/05 I had a lot of people including Bank of America employees agree with me that the bank needs to follows its own rules and make this rip-off right.
The bank told me when I reported the wrong balance that they were definitely where forged and they are going to cover their mistake but due to the large amount it would be transferred to the banks fraud department. I got a call a week later from a Tim Whitesitt and here is where things get really bad.
Tim pretty much laughed and said boy oh boy you really got hit hard didn't you. I said What ? Your bank said its insured and I get reimbursed right? Tim laughed and said I was at fault for not reporting it sooner. Tim said it had been more then 60 days from the first forged check.
I said where is this rule and what about the last forged check written 2 days before reporting the fraud and closing my account? Tim just laughed and said that doesn't matter. What abot the banks managers mistake on issuing the checks to the wrong account? Tim said with a laugh, That does not matter.
I explained how I had become sick and how I had gone to my local branch and talked with the bank manager about a internet purchase I had been charged twice for $20.00.
I explained that the bank manager had me close my checking account and how she (Valerie Lunn) had set-up 2 new accounts for me to prevent any fraud to my accounts.
Valerie Lunn of the Cle Elum, Washington Bank of America branch explained that I was to just use one account to keep money in and the other account to do ALL transactions from. I was to use the first account ONLY to transfer funds to the second as needed and that way No One could really do much fraud and it would be notice right away and dealt with.Thats what I did... Also Valerie Lunn, explained that if fraud occurred it was covered by the bank. Total Security Protection as stated on your websites.
Well that sounded good to me and after all this was a bank branch and manager I had done business with for 18 years so they know how to keep my money safe right? WRONG!
This was in late July 2004 and I was busy seeing doctors to try and figure out why I was feeling sick. I had a bunch of test done in the middle of august I had more test done and also received a box of checks to my new active account. I counted the checks and locked them in my desk at home. I don't use checks unless there is no other way. I use the visa to pay almost everything I do. Bills, gas, food and etc. I write maybe 2 checks a month on the average and mail them from a drop box. Heck I watch the news and hear about mail theft now and then.
Late august I went on a trip for 2 weeks and returned to find out from the doctor I had a disease and if I did not feel better soon I needed to seek medical help as this disease can be fatal if not treated correctly. I had to seek medical help and check into the hospital on 10/16/04 and was under 24/7 medical care till 11/11.04 at which time I was under home care with my sister for another month. I am still under a doctors care and temporary disabled. I don't know how long or if I will ever be off the disable static?
Well back to Bank Of America!!!
Little did I know that the Bank Manager had issued the checks I received to the secure account she had told me not to use for anything but transferring money to my second active account. My check where stolen and I didn't even know it because I had one check book with me for those few check I might have to write and that was very few checks in a several months time. Heck I was in the hospital a month………….
From September 1st till December 23rd the theft's wrote 42 checks for $29,915.62 against my secure account. The last check was written for $1,233.00 on the 21st of December. That is more then 60 days from the first check forged so the bank says I lose it all. I got my hands on a bank account rule book that the bank doesn't seem to give everyone when the open a account (ignorant is no excuse for the law) and here is what I read on page 32
Bank of America account Rule Book
(Deposit Agreement And Disclosures)
Page 32
If your Statements shows transfers that you did not make, tell us at once. If you do not tells us in writing within 60 days after the statement was mailed to you, you may not get back any money you lost after the 60 days, If we can prove that we could have stopped someone from taking the money if you had told us in time.
I reported it after 60 days. Hummmm? Here is what the next paragraph say's in there little rule book??????? It reads like this.
If for a good reason (such as a long trip or hospital stay) kepts you from telling us, We will extend the time period.
The bank refuses to even consider my claim. I have letters from the bank vice president of relations Jim Blanton in Seattle and the investigator Tim Whitesitt in Seattle saying you been denied and we don't want to even talk to you anymore, basically they say Go Away!!!!!!!!!!!! All letters to Ken Lewis the CEO of Bank of America are just forwarded to Seattle main office. The tallest building in the Northwest USA. The Columbia building in downtown Seattle.
This is down right bank robbery !!!!! The bank has given my life savings to criminals and told me it's not their problem. Your bank was put in trust of my money. I have tried every way possible except a long expensive lawsuit to get my money back. I have all the documentation to prove everything I say and welcome being contacted by a good lawyer or any other form of help. Right now I would like to hear what the people have to say…
I will not go quietly into the dark and be silent.
I will not vanish without a very long fight.
How can they use the word (America) in there name and steal from people like this???
This brings new meaning to the words Bank Robbery!!! I was robbed by Bank Of America.
The gloves are off Bank of America. I tried your way for justice and it took you well over 60 days to even tell me where the checks where even cashed at. 2 checks you call undetermined bank locations. What??? You cant even tell which branch of yours they where cashed at??????
The police need to know this to know who's jurisdiction the crimes where in and what agency goes after the criminals and your well aware by now that I closed my account and protested your Bank of America branch (Issaquah Wa. West branch) yesterday that cashed over $11,000 dollars and 18 forged checks at and you know that a few thousand cars driving by saw my sign.
You know people came up to me and read my flyers and letters and you know they agree with me 100% Most where shocked but read your managers letters and your rule book and said oh my gosh the bank ripped you off. Doesn't Bank of America ever check signatures??????? Not in my case they never checked a signature even once.
All you did and can do is watch me tell everyone my story and calling the police on me did no good did it? I was just telling my story and protesting as this countries 1st amendment protects me to do so. The police called me and said I was total legal later that day. So you cant hide behind the police either. There is no slander in telling my true story. Our founding father knew this and made it the very first amendment. True shall prevail. Free Speech is alive and well and if my protest is total legal as it will always be.
When will you see your business is the people and there accounts at your banks? I trusted your bank………………..I guess most people do trust there banks? That's where we are supposed to be safe with our money. If that trust is broken??????? What will become of that bank??????
Thomas
Shoreline, Washington
U.S.A.
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EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!
HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:
Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.
According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: “we could not do anything for you" or “you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days".
If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.
Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!
DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!
Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.
And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.
Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.
If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.
CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD
If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.
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Updates & Rebuttals:
- read my report you're not crazy Anthony [4/17/2005 5:20:08 AM]
- Did you contact the police? www.Federalreserve.gov Nancy [4/18/2005 12:52:38 AM]
- The silent treatment from Bank of America Thomas [5/10/2005 10:13:59 AM]
- File A Class Action Yell Fraud this word holds a lot of weight. Alan [6/7/2005 9:33:10 AM]
- new developements - sounding like the Bank of America is helping the criminal commit feloney fraud and the police are not interested in catching criminals either Thomas [6/7/2005 1:22:13 PM]
- Large Seattle newspaper SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER reports my story Thomas [6/15/2005 10:38:07 AM]
- What will have to be done Kimberly [6/16/2005 12:08:47 PM]
- Avoid the King County Courts Brenda [6/16/2005 2:36:22 PM]
- It is Regulation E guidelines, not Bank of America's that is causing your problem Amy [6/20/2005 1:14:46 PM]
- Amy do you work for Bank of America ? Thomas [6/20/2005 10:26:48 PM]
- Yes i work for Bank of America Amy [6/22/2005 11:03:41 AM]
- Who to contact, what to do... Currency office handles Bank of America claims Nancy [6/28/2005 5:56:15 AM]
- Thanx I will take my money else where. Patrice [7/26/2005 7:21:16 AM]
- UPDATE: BANK OF AMERICA IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAWS. CHECK 21 ANOTHER LIE ... Thomas [7/30/2005 1:44:15 PM]
- Advice for filing suit Holly [7/31/2005 11:59:20 AM]
- Bank of america Steve [7/31/2005 7:10:47 PM]
- To Amy Michael [8/7/2005 3:12:19 AM]
- Amy...Be Careful What You Write Eric [8/10/2005 5:12:46 PM]
- Destroying, Concealing or with holding evidence Thomas [8/20/2005 10:05:09 PM]
- good point nancy M [8/21/2005 11:06:29 PM]
- Re: Check 21 Ken [8/23/2005 10:55:17 AM]
- BANK OF AMERICA RIP OFF Bryanne [8/27/2005 7:09:44 PM]
- ERIC you were Fired!!!!!!!! Ron [9/4/2005 9:00:10 AM]
- This sucks Link [9/4/2005 9:36:58 AM]
- Bank of America lies and cheats Cory [9/6/2005 10:04:42 PM]
- Signatures Ken [9/7/2005 6:26:03 AM]
- I had planned on opening an account this week. Jenna [9/7/2005 11:08:23 PM]
- No longer banking with B of A B. [9/8/2005 6:08:00 PM]
- Not Quite RON Eric [9/12/2005 9:02:25 AM]
- Consumer Comment Lynda [9/12/2005 12:13:33 PM]
- Check 21 Bank Institution Rip Off to the Consumer Cindie [9/18/2005 11:35:04 PM]
- not just the bank S [9/19/2005 10:06:07 AM]
- Lawsuit Filed Thomas [9/19/2005 12:27:00 PM]
- Go to Local Sheriffs Office Scott [9/22/2005 1:04:32 AM]
- THANK GOD FOR THIS SIGHT John [9/28/2005 4:08:01 AM]
- B of A... NO WAY!! cancelling my account !! Don [9/29/2005 1:51:43 AM]
- closed my account with bank of america James [10/5/2005 11:57:35 PM]
- I'm firing B of A too.. Mike [10/6/2005 12:02:32 AM]
- Cancel at BofA? Pete [10/6/2005 6:39:06 AM]
- Pete are you another BoA employee ? Thomas [10/6/2005 2:02:21 PM]
- Information from disclosure statement refers to electronic transactions Bryan [10/7/2005 5:03:11 PM]
- 4 police case filed against forgers Thomas [10/9/2005 1:01:30 PM]
- What would you do? Stile [10/9/2005 9:34:56 PM]
- What about the money seized from the fraudulent accounts? Mike [10/9/2005 10:50:32 PM]
- Friendly Fraud ? You sound just like the Bank of America officials I have spoken with and you have a way of trying to twist words to make the Bank of America look like there in the right Thomas [10/10/2005 3:49:33 PM]
- I'm as real as it gets. Stile [10/11/2005 12:02:50 PM]
- 60 day rule Greg [10/11/2005 10:11:41 PM]
- Stiles if your trying to help me? Thomas [10/15/2005 3:23:46 PM]
- Answers to your questions. Stile [10/16/2005 7:48:20 AM]
- The Bank of America is withholding evidence Thomas [10/17/2005 7:07:30 PM]
- What records are they hiding? Ken [10/18/2005 7:01:26 AM]
- You offered to try and help and you did a very good job. thanx! Thomas [10/19/2005 5:49:33 PM]
- www.bankofamerica.com Kenneth lewis CEO Thomas [10/21/2005 4:02:38 PM]
- Down to details, indeed. Stile [10/21/2005 4:41:45 PM]
- Give it up, Stile. You're talking to a brick wall. You've been more than patient, yet have insults hurled at you whenever you try to give a reasonable explanation. Pete [10/22/2005 1:17:43 PM]
- who is talking to a brick wall??????ME Thomas [10/22/2005 6:32:32 PM]
- Thank you, Pete Stile [10/23/2005 7:45:21 AM]
- Disgusting... The attitudes of the Bank of America employees defending their company. Lee [11/8/2005 7:38:38 PM]
- Hello, Lee... Pete [11/9/2005 7:58:12 AM]
- Pete- - you should not have said that Raven [12/7/2005 10:37:20 AM]
- Bank Employees.... Oscar [12/7/2005 1:07:51 PM]
- Glad you have a pic in your complaint so I found this! Mindy [12/7/2005 5:07:24 PM]
- Statute Of Limitations Clock is ticking Scott [12/7/2005 10:39:11 PM]
- So what's going on? N [12/8/2005 4:33:18 PM]
- legal action pending Thomas [12/8/2005 7:38:25 PM]
- will not bank there Myria [1/25/2006 12:40:42 PM]
- Current BOA Customer Elizabeth [1/25/2006 5:27:27 PM]
- TISK TISK AMY! Tll [1/25/2006 5:56:15 PM]
- GO TO DATELINE NBC NOW! Tll [1/25/2006 7:00:48 PM]
- Media Coverage vs. Rulemakers Barbara [1/26/2006 11:42:29 AM]
- More of the same. Stile [1/26/2006 12:28:21 PM]
- Closed My BOA Savings Account, too! Angela [1/27/2006 10:46:56 AM]
- B of A's responsibility Janice [1/27/2006 5:04:35 PM]
- Charterless? Stile Barbara [1/30/2006 7:02:50 AM]
- Check Online Ruby [2/3/2006 12:28:24 PM]
- CLOSING MY ACCOUNT, I SUGGEST A BOYCOT Jay [2/7/2006 2:48:08 AM]
- BOA dont threat you with dignity. Keep close eye on your account or they'll rip you off. Where is HIGHER STANDARD? Chuck [2/7/2006 11:08:41 AM]
- agree--b of a a problem Donna [2/10/2006 12:03:31 AM]
- Bank of America is wrong!!!! Nathan [2/10/2006 1:25:10 PM]
- I just dusted off my protest sign and thanks for the post in support of this injustice !!! Thomas [2/12/2006 11:25:31 AM]
- Bank of America is within its limits and did nothing wrong! NotApplicable [2/12/2006 2:58:13 PM]
- How to serve the company Janet [2/16/2006 12:07:20 PM]
- Bank of America Deals with theft in a strange Way Eric [2/25/2006 1:14:14 AM]
- A big unfortunate mess.... R [3/5/2006 7:15:49 AM]
- BOA no way!! E [3/5/2006 12:27:19 PM]
- Eric, in Atlanta... Pete [3/5/2006 2:01:01 PM]
- Missing an Opportunity... Jonathan [3/6/2006 2:27:21 AM]
- Thomas Sorry - I have had horrible dealings too Rutha [3/7/2006 7:35:47 PM]
- Same old thing, Rutha. Stile [3/8/2006 12:50:33 PM]
- I can't believe this. Rusty [3/8/2006 6:08:23 PM]
- B OF A SCREW'S EVERYONE! Brandy [3/9/2006 8:26:55 AM]
- Stile You work for Bank of America Thomas [3/10/2006 11:36:06 AM]
- You're wrong, Thomas... Pete [3/11/2006 7:09:32 PM]
- There is a rock in Kenneth Lewis BoA CEO backyard Thomas [3/12/2006 10:21:37 AM]
- Bank of America Employees email me Thomas [3/12/2006 11:14:19 AM]
- Taking your anger out on me doesn't help. Stile [3/13/2006 1:19:43 PM]
- Thomas, you have ADD NotApplicable [3/13/2006 2:50:41 PM]
- Kenneth Lewis and his BoA managers Thomas [3/15/2006 8:01:25 AM]
- Conning for profit Josh [3/15/2006 11:36:02 PM]
- Thomas: One fake attempt at spotlight NotApplicable [3/16/2006 9:58:22 AM]
- 30K Ripoff Erik [3/16/2006 11:21:19 AM]
- Thanx Erik, I contacted him by email. Thomas [3/17/2006 3:36:48 PM]
- my money was taken from bank of america - robbed and can't do anything about it Hilda [3/17/2006 11:03:05 PM]
- To Bank of America - There are no shades of gray in the question of honesty and justice. Thomas [3/17/2006 11:08:06 PM]
- Thanks! NotApplicable [3/18/2006 10:48:53 AM]
- In all fairness... Stile [3/18/2006 6:48:27 PM]
- Closing Accounts Robin [3/19/2006 6:10:43 PM]
- COMMENTS NOT FOUND IN THOMAS'S POST Jim [3/21/2006 6:41:50 PM]
- Jim, you're right. Stile [3/22/2006 12:02:53 PM]
- did I wait to long to report fraud ? Thomas [3/22/2006 9:23:58 PM]
- Looked up those banking laws, Thomas. Stile [3/23/2006 9:45:20 AM]
- WE'RE ALL WONDERING HOW THIS WILL END ! Jim [3/23/2006 10:45:59 AM]
- Boy oh Boy Stile Thomas [3/23/2006 9:13:27 PM]
- Why do I respond? Stile [3/24/2006 10:21:32 PM]
- Solution: A Class action law suit should be filed PLEASE! Sheila [3/25/2006 10:22:27 AM]
- READ & RE-READ Jim [3/25/2006 3:45:43 PM]
- The problem stile is that the Bank of America Thomas [3/25/2006 8:11:55 PM]
- Dealing with 'Small Claims' Dennis [3/26/2006 8:51:53 AM]
- Dueling responsibilities Stile [3/26/2006 1:21:44 PM]
- I tried small claims court Thomas [3/26/2006 1:46:53 PM]
- It can be done Thomas Dawn [3/29/2006 4:47:33 PM]
- Taking My Business Elsewhere. Thanks Amy of Irving, TX !!! Sun [3/31/2006 4:42:39 AM]
- NO RESPONESIBILTY for what they have and have not done in this case. Thomas [4/1/2006 11:52:45 AM]
- Thomas, these questions have been answered already. Stile [4/3/2006 10:37:57 PM]
- Thanx! Holly [4/4/2006 10:26:51 AM]
- Wow that sucks, definitely not going to B of A now. Kenneth [4/5/2006 11:08:42 AM]
- What good is the bank? Marc [4/5/2006 12:30:12 PM]
- Why, Kenneth? Pete [4/8/2006 10:49:57 PM]
- Reply to former B of A customers J [4/27/2006 9:44:14 AM]
- BOA treats customers poorly here, too Holly [5/3/2006 2:57:08 PM]
- BofA has very poor CS An [5/3/2006 9:34:45 PM]
- apples to oranges ..The industry is changing and consumer rights ARE eroding. John [5/6/2006 12:48:31 AM]
- Are we backing the wrong horse. Stephen [5/11/2006 1:37:28 PM]
- Never get answer Mike [5/12/2006 10:12:32 AM]
- To Mike Holly [5/12/2006 1:13:58 PM]
- I doesnt matter what I say does it Thomas [5/12/2006 7:41:48 PM]
- Still no answer Stephen [5/13/2006 3:33:29 PM]
- Its all about choices Thomas [5/14/2006 12:47:52 PM]
- Where are the Teddy Roosevelts of this Nation when ya need one? Appalled at BofA Glenda [5/14/2006 9:34:09 PM]
- Thomas and Glenda Mike [5/15/2006 5:59:16 AM]
- Yes I filed charges against the criminals Thomas [5/15/2006 7:53:29 PM]
- Back to the checks. Stile [5/16/2006 11:22:23 AM]
- Kenneth Lay, Jeffrey Skilling and Kenneth Lewis Thomas [5/25/2006 7:57:16 PM]
- BoA Failed me, R U Next ? Thomas [9/12/2006 10:13:39 AM]
- Couldn't stand to see your story off the front page? Stile [9/12/2006 1:36:32 PM]
- Stile post contact info PLS Thomas [9/13/2006 10:16:15 AM]
- Sitle, jack of all trades,Master of none Thomas [9/13/2006 12:44:06 PM]
- other ripoff reports to be filed? John [9/13/2006 7:30:56 PM]
- Response for Thomas Stile [9/15/2006 12:41:42 AM]
- BYE BOA Marion [9/18/2006 1:37:40 AM]
- I FEEL YOUR PAIN!!! Tedahmae [10/5/2006 1:53:56 PM]
- I almost went to B of A today... David [10/9/2006 8:46:08 AM]
- Verification of Suspects Shirley [10/9/2006 12:58:19 PM]
- The Case Thomas had against Bank of America is closed David [10/10/2006 7:45:10 PM]
- My take, What really happened with this case. David [10/15/2006 10:59:03 AM]
- The bottom line Doug [10/21/2006 10:58:58 AM]
- Bank of America Does it Again Kerry [11/16/2006 1:07:01 AM]
- BOA or Sate Farm insurance David [11/19/2006 7:11:33 PM]
- Our responsibility Michael [11/29/2006 10:01:45 PM]
- Truth is Steph [12/4/2006 8:57:55 AM]
- Questions about 60 day policy Giraud [12/5/2006 7:00:18 PM]
- Strong claims about your research on this case, Steph Thomas [12/5/2006 10:38:30 PM]
- This is to ROBIN of Iowa Kijuana [12/13/2006 9:20:44 AM]
- To all that cast doubt on Thomas's story ! David [1/21/2007 8:19:46 PM]
- Previous Bank Teller Kim [1/22/2007 1:43:13 PM]
- Don't blame the president--Come on! Ed [1/22/2007 6:52:17 PM]
- Corporate America RIP_OFF!! Carol [1/27/2007 2:36:47 PM]
- Bank of Trickery Liz [1/31/2007 3:10:11 PM]
- Good Luck! Ana [4/15/2007 6:12:32 PM]
- New Victims to come Wendy [4/23/2007 10:20:24 PM]
- No longer dealing with BofA Ramona [5/5/2007 2:27:09 AM]
- Thomas from Anderson SC, Steph is right and here's your proof Darrell [5/6/2007 4:33:50 PM]
- boa is like a bad disease Coleen [5/8/2007 12:02:36 PM]
- Thomas....you're completely right!!! M [5/28/2007 2:56:07 AM]
- The game is rigged folks ! David [10/3/2007 1:56:17 PM]
- consumer Mother Angelica [10/3/2007 3:09:24 PM]
- I'M GLAD I LISTENED... Brian [10/3/2007 5:13:17 PM]
- Same thing happened to my uncle Steven [10/19/2007 10:46:56 AM]
- YOU CAN SUE BANK OF AMERICA !! Stephanie [1/22/2008 10:52:48 AM]
- Yet another black mark against BofA Jim [4/25/2008 4:53:02 PM]
- More information re: Steph's ill-informed comments Amber [6/27/2008 7:17:53 AM]
- So sorry to hear your story... Helen [7/2/2008 2:14:41 PM]
- BANK OF AMERICA RIPSOFF CONSUMERS Seektruth [7/3/2008 3:50:50 PM]
- Your image is faltering, Thomas. Sean [7/20/2008 9:21:32 AM]
read my report you're not crazy
Thomas....I have read your report regarding Bank of America's defraud. I believe what you say....and your not crazy! dont ask WHY!!!!Bank of America 'Read My Report'
Did you contact the police? www.Federalreserve.gov
Are you the only person living in your home> How were your checks stolen? Do you know who did it? Did you contact the police?
Contact the Federal Reserve BAnk and The FDIC they are in charge of national banks and make the rules, etc. Also contact the consumer affairs people at channel 7 Maybe they can get somewhere. go to www.FDIC.gove and www.Federalreserve.gov
The silent treatment from Bank of America
I will try to respones to the several post that follow my nightmire with Bank of America giving away my life savings.
I tried a half dozen times to get a federal E form from Bank of America with no luck and have documented bank officiers names, location, times etc. as well as customer service names.
The criminal case is under investagation at the King County Fraud dept. RJC center, kent wa.
The bank just continues to hide behind closed doors and not address my claim.
I have been trying to find a good lawyer and that is hard to do with little money up front. I Have been contacted by lawyers services but after checking RIP-OFF reports I find there just another rip-off scam.
So I decided to take matters into my own hands and filed in small claims court for a large check the bank gave away to criminals. There is $4000 dollar limit in washington state. I then had to serve the papers to the defendent. What a joke that turned out to be.
I made 8 different phone calls to bank of america to find out who to serve the papers to and NO ONE would give me a name or number of a person or dept. at the bank that excepts legal paper. I called the State capital(olympia wa.) and there suppost to have that information but they didnt and after fumble around for 15 minutes gave me a company number that they said bank of america does business through.
I called and they said nope we dont know what your talking about.....
I then decided that all roads seem to end at this vise president of relations( Jim Blanton) of Boa and he was the person that I named on the court papers as the defendent. I tried to have him served court papers but he would not come to the Banks lobby when the server tried to go to his office. The security would not let the server past the lobby. The server did however hear the defendent say I dont want those court papers. Tell them to go away. I will not except them and I will not tell them where to serve them either.
It is interesting to see how the bank operates. There main building in downtown Seattle 800 5th ave. Has no directory. You cant get on the elevators and the security people have blank name tags on there shirts and state that they are a private company and not part of the bank and shoved the papers back at the server. What a joke.....
The papers where served to a close by BoA Banking center.Lets see if they come out of there cave for the court hearing??????????
There acting like common thieves and hiding like Rats in a Hole. I may be just one little guy and there this big supposed to be respected Bank. What a joke. This is just plain and simple WRONG
Dear Bank of America the many people that have read about this story want to hear your rebutal !!!!!! Come out cave and explain how you rip people of BUT its OK because were Bank Of America........
File A Class Action Yell Fraud this word holds a lot of weight.
Thomas read your post its a shame when someone gets Shafted. What you need to say to boneheads who rip people off is Yell Fraud this word holds a lot of weight. Call a Lawyer and file a Class Lawsuit against the bank.. If you have the Proof
than a lawsuit is in order.. To file a Class Action is free to file.. It almost sounds like this maybe an inside deal.. I would also go to the FDIC and start screaming Fraud... Get mad get even !!!!!!
new developements - sounding like the Bank of America is helping the criminal commit feloney fraud and the police are not interested in catching criminals either
It just keeps getting worse trying to deal with Bank of America and this rip-off story of mine. I have contacted a Lawyer as to the possible Class Action suit being filed.
I am having many problems trying to getting the prosecution to move forward in my case. The few days after I report the fraud to the Bank of America I called the Shoreline Police dept. and they gave me a case number but said to go to the county my checks where stolen from my house and file a report. I did and they ( Kittitas Sheriffs Office ) took a report and gave me a case number and said get the information from the Bank of America where the checks where cashed so you know who's jurisdiction it was in.
Well it took almost 2 months to get this information from Bank of America and it turns out most of the 42 forged Checks where in King County ( greater Seattle area ) So I called and sent the King County Fraud Dept at the regional Justice Center in Kent wa. all the evidence.
That was march 2nd 2005 I first sent the registered package of all the forged checks and a report to the regional Justice Center, Kent, Washington.
3 weeks later I called and talked with detective in charge of the fuard dept. Steve Davis. Steve said he never got the Package from me.... I followed steve's request to drop off the second package at the Shoreline police dept. 185th off Aurora ave. Several weeks later I called and still no package. I sent a third Package return signature and called again several weeks later and STILL NO PACKAGE RECEIVED.
What in the heck is going on??? I had 2 reciepts that it had been delivered. I contacted the RJC center again and was contact a few days later by detective Mairk who now said he had found the Package. Several days later detective marik called me and said that why did I wait so long to file? I told him I didnt wait and I have reciepts to show that and case files from 2 other police dept. He then said that the copies of the forged checks where more then likely no good ( to poor of quality) for court or a prosecution. He said the bank more then likely destroyed the video and picture of the criminals as well.
So if this is correct ? Then Bank of America has destroyed the fruad checks and the other evidence pictures and video then. I got after waiting 2 months copies that are no good. Then there can be no arrest and prosecution. Even though the criminals used there own bank of America accounts to deposit the forged checks into and then make withdrawals from.
So after looking at the bad copies of the checks that the Bank Of America sent me its clear the bank did not follow the new federal rules of CHECK 21 Requirements a law that was pasted in oct. 2004 and requires the bank to make copies of a good quality and ligible information. HUUMMMMM is this palnned?
Why did the bank also not take any action on the 2 criminal accounts at there bank after I reported the fraud??? How much of my savings was left in there accounts ? The bank wont say.
I have both account numbers now and some how I will find out how the bank did or did not act on the criminals accounts. I have information that one of the main criminals accounts was closed in late january 2005 6 weeks after reporting the fraud and by the criminal and not one thing was done by the bank. Whats going on here? The bank gave me the names of the criminals the day I reported the fraud back in Dec. 2004.
Its really sounding like the Bank of America is helping the criminal commit feloney fraud and the police are not interested in catching criminals either.

Submitted: 6/15/2005 10:38:07 AM
Modified: 6/15/2005 10:38:07 AMThomas
Shoreline, WashingtonU.S.A.
Large Seattle newspaper SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER reports my story
The one of largest newspapers in the Pacific Northwest ( Seattle PI/Times ) reports my story. They did a investigation into all the facts first to make sure what I said about Bank Of America was true. They did not report all the facts BUT enough facts to bring up some serious questions about if I should be reimbursed by the bank for check fraud and is YOUR money safe in Bank of America????
Please read the story.....
6-14-05 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/228366_stolenchecks14.html
6-15-05 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/228442_banked.asp

Submitted: 6/16/2005 12:08:47 PM
Modified: 6/16/2005 12:08:47 PMKimberly
White Salmon, WashingtonU.S.A.
What will have to be done
unfortunatly while you settle out where to file a lawsuit with Bank of America. You may need to have your relatives/ ex sued in court also. This is so awful that it happend when you were in a vulnurable position. But I do sympathize with you on Bank of americas practices. I have an OR state account that allowed an unautthorized debit go through on my account. It threw my account into overdraft and I have since gotten back those overdraft amounts but it took a battle and threatning to close my account before they credited me. Bank of America are THIEVES!! Plain and simple. I hope and pray you get justice because it is so wrong. I mean 'Isn't that why they have insurance for?' There should be no question about crediting your account.
Avoid the King County Courts
Whatever you do, don't bring our case in the King County Courts. If you do, you will find that the Judge knows the B of A attorney and it is likely that B of A has contributed to his campaign. Even if you win, B of A will appeal and the Washington Court of Appeals is completely untrustworthy. On the other hand, the Federal District Court is much more independent and, unlike King County, plays by its own rules. I recommend that you bring a Federal case Good luck!
It is Regulation E guidelines, not Bank of America's that is causing your problem
In your report, you say:
I had to seek medical help and check into the hospital on 10/16/04 and was under 24/7 medical care till 11/11.04
And then you report that the fraud happened starting in September:
From September 1st till December 23rd the theft's wrote 42 checks for $29,915.62 against my secure account. The last check was written for $1,233.00 on the 21st of December.
Ok, why the hell did you NEVER check your account within the FOUR months this problem was going on. I feel bad and all for your medical problems....but you still should have checked your account during the spetember to October time period you were NOT in the hospital. If you were transferring funds out the account, into your other account to cover your purchases, surely you would have noticed some fraudulent activity. If you provided paperwork showing you were in the hospital during the time the fraud occurred, they would have disputed it. You got out of the hospital in november....you still had another month of fraud activity ocurring on your account after you got out. I have a hard time believing everything you say is absolute fact. Most consumers don't have ANY clue how the bank works and assume they are supposed to give you your money back month and months later. The bank follows FEDERAL REGULATIONS. That is why your claim was denied. Not because the bank denied, because they have to follow FEDERAL guidelines. First of all, you are trying to claim under the wrong regulation. Regulation E if for ELECTRONIC FUNDS TRANSFERS. not check fraud. Check fraud is completely different.
Here is a website to view Regulation E:
http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/rules/6500-3100.html
By the way, any moron can Google Regulation E and find it. Why the hell do you have to depend on the bank to send it to you?
Regarding check fraud, please note the following copied from the actual FDIC website:
'Note: No federal law limits your losses from check fraud, but you do have protections under state law. For example, most state laws hold the bank responsible for losses from a forged check, but they also require the bank customer to take reasonable care of his or her account, including monitoring account statements and promptly reporting an unauthorized transaction to avoid being liable for losses.'
see it for yourself here:
http://www.fdic.gov/consumers/consumer/news/cnspr03/fedlaws.html
So the EDITOR had incorrect information and the guy complaining all this time. Get your facts straight before filing all this nonsense. Threat about reporting the bank and that bull will get you nowhere. REPORT FRAUD WITHIN 60 DAYS!!!

Submitted: 6/20/2005 10:26:48 PM
Modified: 6/20/2005 10:26:48 PMThomas
Shoreline, WashingtonU.S.A.
Amy do you work for Bank of America ?
Hi Amy and thanks for your rebuttal. Yours is the first rebuttal on this website or anywhere else for that matter. The reason I ask if you work for the Bank of America is you seem to be defending the bank and you seem to be upset. I wont lower myself to name calling as you have by calling me a moron.
I have enough common sense to know you work in the banking world in some form or manner and by the way I been treated by the Bank its seems to be common for many BoA managers to treat people as morons. I wonder what goes through your minds when they smile at a customer and kiss his butt to later stab that same customer in the back. You see Amy I am just a Forest Ranger not a banker.
If you look again at my posts you will see all the things the Bank did that where wrong. It started with the bank manager setting up my account wrong and then there are a whole list of other neglegent problems that followed. You mean to tell me that the bank can do whatever they want then just say it doesnt matter?
You know what Amy Im not going to try and show you my point of view anymore. The poll that the Newspaper did tells the story real clear.
6-15-05 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/228442_banked.asp
Over 90% of the people polled agree that the bank should reimburse me. Those are the banks customers. Think about that fact. I will save my arguement for the judge. I do apologize for being really really sick and thinking my money was safe in the bank. I apoligize for not checking my account even though it states in the banks account rule book that statement will be sent quarterly if there is little or no activity.
How do you explain 42 checks written and never once a signature being check by the bank......
What does it really mean when the bank says it does fraud protection??? What does it mean when it claims Total security protection. What does the bank really mean when the say HIGHER STANDARDS ?
I think its a lie and that those claims are false advertising.. BUT HEY that doesnt matter right Amy.
I know now. Checking signature cuts into the banks profit and signature are rarley checked. Over drafts charges of 28 dollars made the bank billions of dollars last year. What the heck is that all about. If I dont have money in the bank the darn debit charge should never of cleared to be a overdraw. I didnt ask to borrow money. Talk about loan sharks. Lets see, if I was 1 dollar over draft in my account the bank says I owe them $29 dollars.
Hey Amy your pretty smart so tell me what is that rate of interest on a loan I didnt even want or authorize? But you would argue that thats what the laws says they can do. I would say that your right BUT it just make them legal THIEVES.....but THIEVES never the less.
Why may I ask you Amy are there a whole list of government agencies try right now to stop this stealing from people ?
Read and see for yourself:
http://www.consumersunion.org/pub/core_financial_services/002389.html
Come on Amy please tell us who you work for?
I hope its not ENRON :-)
Yours truly
The moron
Yes i work for Bank of America
I regret the name calling. Sorry. My problem is that you didn't check your account for months according to your words, not mine. I have not seen or heard of anything about you before reading this site, but from my experience with TONS of customers and their claims...I handle claim stuff at bofa....i know exactly what you are complaining about.
And yeah, it may not be FAIR, but what in this world is? You think that the bank can just give money to any joe blow because the customer thinks its fair?
No, the bank has rules and regulations it follows. They can't dispute something if you have not reported it in 60 days.
The stuff i copied in my response was from the ACTUAL government websites.....not consumer reports. The website you are trying to say is all legit is only a consumer thing. Of course a bunch of people are going to say in a POLL that you should get your money back, i would love to give every person out there the money they want.
But guess what, if any one ran a business that way, they wouldn't be around very long. I went on this site to check out some other company, and for kicks..wanted to see what people say about where i work.
Pretty much all the posts on here are about stupid overdraft fees..but i can see why yours is on here. Not that i fully agree with your complaint. But i see where yours would be understandable compared to stupid people on here that can't manage their money.
You said that if there is not much activity that you only get your statements quarterly....well, the fraud was occuring on your account....that would have sent out a statement. So you should have been looking at your statements. From my personal view point...not even the 'bank employee' view point....i don't even have a clue of how ANYONE can go weeks and months without looking at their account.
You blame the person who set up your account....it doesn't matter how your accounts were set up, they still should have been looked at every so often.
Go ahead and keep trying to fight for your cause....but i think it was lost before you even started.
Maybe your friend stole your checks and had your signature around...who knows. Since i can't view everything right in front of me....i'm not going to agree with everything you say.
Sorry you got stolen from...but its up to the individual to protect themselves not just the bank. It even says that on the GOVERNMENT website. Thats the only reason i even answered this ripoff report. To educate anyone who reads your problem.
Who to contact, what to do... Currency office handles Bank of America claims
In my case I was told the Comptroller of the Currency office handles Bank of America claims. They were very helpful, so you might want to give them a call. They gave me the direct number to Executive Consumer Relations for Bank of America and what seemed would never get fixed, got fixed within a few hours. Their agents at their 800 numbers and banks were not helpful at all, but once I contacted the Executive number, they were appalled and maybe because I had told them that I had already contacted the Comptroller of the Currency, they acted immediately. Give it a try, I can't imagine what you are going through, but I know it was a very stressful week for me and you must continue to ensure this gets resolved. Good Luck!

Submitted: 7/26/2005 7:21:16 AM
Modified: 7/26/2005 7:21:16 AMPatrice
Blythewood, South CarolinaU.S.A.
Thanx I will take my money else where.
My husband and I open up a savings account with Bank Of America, This week I will search for somewhere else to put our money. If Bank Of America are treating their customers like what I have been reading, I will take my money else where. Thanks for the informantion.
UPDATE: BANK OF AMERICA IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAWS. CHECK 21 ANOTHER LIE ...
I have been working with the Issaquah, WA. police department after the King County fraud department said they lost my case and then after several month some how just happened to find one of several packages I sent to them. I wonder how they justify stating on the King County Sheriffs office website that they have one of the best fraud departments in the country?
I never was even able to get a case number from any of the King County detectives I talked to for 3 months. I did however find out a month or so ago that the copies of the 42 checks the bank sent me where in the words of the detectives garbage. I figured that was just another excuse to not deal with my fraud case.
Well after the PI newspaper did a front page article on my problems the King County Sheriffs department said that they would forward the evidence and statement to the Issaquah police. They never did but whats new with there incompetents.....at the King County Fraud Unit.
Well I sent all the evidence I had to the Issaqauh police myself and a week ago I got a message from the Issaquah police department. That they have the same problem. The checks are so poor of quality that you cant even clearly read the print that came on the checks from the printer much less the would have been the great evidence of one of the forgers thumb prints.
The detective has e-mailed me and here is what he said. (Hi Tom, I had emailed and called Andrea Bunch again at Bank Of America Security (last
week) and requested the original checks and any video with the times
that they were cashed, but I have not had a response back yet.)
This is 5 months of trying from 2 large law enforcement agencies that have passed by.
Well I think if 2 people forge 42 checks for $30,000 and then deposit the money in there own accounts you would think the bank would do something??? But all the Bank of America has done is make the prosecution impossible and ignore the many request for evidence.
CHECK 21 states that if a person suffers a loss due to this new federal law to copy checks that they can file a claim with the bank and be covered.
How did I suffer a loss???? There will be no prosecution without the Bank of America providing evidence.
1. Most judges in this country (USA) would order repaying the victim with the terms of parole/probation. But there is no conviction...because the bank wont send anything.
2. In this State criminals pay for a fund through fines that go to victims. Called Victims compensation.. I have the forms BUT I cant file the paper work for this compensation without a conviction. Again Bank of America wont release the evidence.
Read about check 21 guidelines and rules that was put into law Oct. 2004 : http://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/truncation/faqs2.htm#ques21
OTS federal agency website states :
Consumer Protection
21. How am I protected under Check 21?
Check law protects you against erroneous and unauthorized check payments. In addition, Check 21 contains a number of new protections for consumers. For example, Check 21 contains a special refund procedure (called “expedited recredit") for a consumer who suffers a loss related to a substitute check he or she received.
25. How do I make a claim under the Check 21 refund procedure?
If you believe that you have suffered a loss relating to a substitute check that you received, you should contact your bank as soon as possible but no later than 40 days from when your bank mailed or delivered your account statement. Your bank will ask you to provide information it needs to investigate your claim, which could include a description of the problem, an estimate of your loss, and information about the substitute check.
26. How quickly must my bank handle my claim, and when will my account be refunded?
Your bank should investigate your claim promptly. If your bank finds that it incorrectly charged your account, the bank must refund the amount of your claim (up to the amount of the substitute check, plus interest if your account earns interest) within one business day of making that decision.
If your bank is unable to determine the validity of your claim within 10 business days after receiving it, your bank on that day must refund the amount of your loss up to the lesser of amount of the substitute check or $2,500, plus interest (if your account earns interest). Unless your bank determines that your claim is not valid, it must refund to your account any remaining amount of your loss, up to the amount of the substitute check, plus interest, no later than the 45th calendar day after the bank received your claim.
If your bank later determines that your claim was not valid, it may reverse the refund and interest it has paid to you.
..................................................
Here where reality comes into play when dealing with Bank of America........
I contacted OTS and they said hey its not our problem and sent me back to OCC and I contacted OCC and told them I have been trying and told I would receive forms to make a claim for a loss due to Check 21 from bank of america for months now with nothing ever sent to me.
OCC told me to call the main office and gave me the phone number and I did call and here is what happened.
Mike Escamilla answered my call and I explained I wanted to get the forms to file a claim for a loss from check 21. Mike told me OK have a nice day. I said OK then you know where and what address to send the forms to me at? Mike said there are NO FORMS for a claim on check 21 and that he will look into it. I said that doesnt sound right ? I was told to call you from OCC main office in Texas and they assured me that there are forms for me to make a claim and I needed to just to call the bank and have them sent to me. Mike said There ARE NO FORMS and hung up on me. That was on 07-27-05 at 11:00 am 1-813-882-1103.
I guess here is another example of this bank telling me and 2 police departments and OCC kiss off we are more powerful then all of you and we dont have to follows federal laws. We are to big and powerful and no one can tells us we have to follow stae or federal laws. I reported this to my state senators (Patty Murray) (Marie Cantwell) but no word back from them yet !!!
I wonder with all the ID theift these days how many hundreds, if not thousand will be in my shoes soon. The rules & laws DONT apply to the Bank of America and it seems to be a lie that any government agency is able to do anything about it.
If I had a valid claim against check 21 or not is not my point. I have been refussed to even let me see if I do or dont is the point.
How bold and unlawful is this whole deal that bank is putting me through? I say putting me through because I will never go away and stop telling people as long as I live about this thieving Bank of America.
Have a nice day KEN LEWIS CEO Head Theft in charge.
Advice for filing suit
I have had similar issues with a couple large credit card agencies and came across an individual that has given me great insight into how our court systems and finance laws work in the US.
This person is privately (grassroots) working to lobby senators and local lawmakers and consumers about how our constitutional consumer rights are being quietly taken away from us because of the decided court cases that the big banks and financial institutions are paying BIG BUCKS to win on very (minor) legal battles - which in turn they use as reference 'CASE LAW' when taking on the next lawsuit that they are hit with.
It's called 'laying the groundwork' and I do not mean that they are paying governments off (but I'm sure that does exist and does go on at all levels) - what I mean is they have systematically found a way to CHANGE OUR CONSUMER RIGHTS THROUGH CASE LAW - and its ruining our rights and allowing serious financial fraud.
These big banks feel in the right about doing it too - because they say (even though the average con who tries to get out from the true debt they owe is somewhere between 10 and 15 % of the millions of american consumers) that 'all consumers in their mind have it coming because after all they can show enormous losses ..... well yes - maybe they can but did anyone ever check to see if the loss was from embezzlement ? or fraudulent consumer accounts ? or fictitious consumer accounts???
ANYWAY - MY advice to you is to get yourself one damn good lawyer, who is as pissed as you are about it and put those institutions on the firing line and win your case .... this is the only way that you will ever be able to help prevent the exact same thing from happeneing again..... then others who have been damaged as you have - will be able to use your 'CASE LAW' to help win their own case..... this is the way our country works... and they way to take back our constitutional rights we are losing as I write this.
These consumer issues run far deeper into our society and law than the average person knows having no clue how corrupt banking commerce is in the world.
ANother thing I have not heard in your stories above ---- have you thought about the possiblity of checking the banks records for when on what date those 'other checks that werent suppose to be sent' were in fact mailed and from where? The US Postal service could probably verify if they actually went through the mail or not.
This might give insight to whether an employee happened to be doing an inside job - (explains all the need for the two accounts etc... sounds like a bs story to me to divert attention from a dishonest employee - and that is another possibility as well - that the bank knows it was an employee - and knows that if thats the case - they could be sued for a hurrendous amount in damages............... so they are trying to make it all go away - and figure you have not filed suit yet so you must not have the money (as they are laughing all the way to their office (bank) ) DONT LET THAT STOP YOU - you CAN find a lawyer who will work with you because the evidence you have is OVERWHELMING and sure to get a trial by peers set in court. Just remember you want a 12 person jury (not arbitration or mediation)that is your best chance for winning because I'll bet at least one of those 12 have been screwed by their banks in their lifetime.
Sad but true.
Good luck and remember that you can make sure this never happens again - it's called 'Case Law' and that is how laws are changed without congress involved.
If they can do it so can we.
You must be sly with the people on the phone to get this kind of info....
Bank of america
I have been reading about Bank of America b/c I smell something funny. I'm from the east coast Philadelphia. I was looking over my accounts to see what balances and had noticed $90 due in Aug due to airline mileage which I'm still trying to figure out this fee. Anyway let me in on this.
We all know that the Feds are in on this. Let me compare. All the big companies have a loan to them to pay certain times during the year. If they can't pay it up then its just like renting just like the airlines do and that is rent the planes b/c the govt owns the carriers. The big companies have a deadline to meet on loans and if they can't they have to merge and so thats why theres big companies merging
I think that Bush is in on this b/c the dictator owns everything as he put companies into bankrupt if I' m not mistaken. Everyone is getting booted b/c someone owes something and its the bank. If Bank of America isn't answering go to the attorney generals office out there and let them know the bank is pulling a fast one. I don't work for the banks but I heard this from someone who does business for one of the big three pizza chains about the big companies














