Report: Web Media Projects - Michael Mann
Category: Programmers
Web Media Projects - Michael Mann Scam Artists - He will take your money, make excuses and never refund it! Gulfport Mississippi
*UPDATE Ex-Employee responds ..Mike Mann back in prison, web media projects shut down. webmediaprojects.com,develop123.com
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Web Media Projects - Michael Mann
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Gulfport, Mississippi, 39507
U.S.A.
Submitted: 11/2/2007 11:55:05 AM
Modified: 10/11/2008 9:55:49 PM
Linkery
Monticello, New YorkI contracted Michael Mann from Web Media Projects to complete a software project for my back on 6/20/2007. He signed a contract agreeing to the terms and that I would pay $325 up front and he would deliver a completed project within 35 days at which time I would pay the rest in full. 35 days came and went. He came up with excuse after excuse as to why it was not completed. When I asked for my refund after nearly 5 MONTHS of waiting, he denied me and asked for one more week (I have documented proof of everything). I gave him one more week at which time I requested another refund. He denied it. Stating that he owes me nothing after he took out $65/hour for software development fees. But, how can this be? I never recieved ANY bit of software from him and NO PROOF (not even a DEMO) that anything was ever performed. He told me to 'kiss [my] a**' and denied me over and over again. This company is a scam. He cons people into paying them and then never delivers, even under the terms of a legally enforceable contract!
Linkery
Monticello, New York
U.S.A.
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Updates & Rebuttals:
- Attempt at extortion C0l0rad0 [11/8/2007 1:32:12 PM]
- Mr. Mann's Contracts are not legal. Kahn [2/26/2008 9:53:11 AM]
- *****Update to this character attack**** C0l0rad0 [4/25/2008 5:32:12 PM]
- Mike Mann back in prison, web media projects shut down. webmediaprojects.com,develop123.com Phpl33t [10/11/2008 1:07:07 AM]
Submitted: 11/8/2007 1:32:12 PM
Modified: 11/8/2007 1:37:50 PMC0l0rad0
Gulfport, MississippiU.S.A.
Attempt at extortion
It is true that we contracted this work and that 25% of the project price was made as a deposit.
It is also true that we worked for 4 months on this project running up over 60 man hours.
No 2nd payment was ever made, nor the third or final. Only the deposit.
When this project was cancelled we had over 60 man hours invested at a stated rate of $35/hour (posted in our profile at GetAFreeLancer where this project was contracted). the client refused to honor his comittment to us and at this stage we have refuse to continue to work on this project.
Our total due amount is $2100 and we've recieved only $325 to date.
This filing is an attempt to avoid a just obligation and an attempt to extort us for the $325.
Mr. Mann's Contracts are not legal.
Mr. Mann's Contracts are not legal. Him and his daughter find contracts online from other people's websites. They then cut and snip and edit to fit their needs. He has no lawyer, no team of experts and his contracts are FULL of loop holes.
Mr. Mann, on a daily basis will talk people into canceling their freelancer bids and pay him his deposit. This is illegal and against the policy of those sites. In fact, I reported him to one freelancer site and they setup a 'honey pot' for Mike and banned him from doing business there.
Mike is a sweet talking con man. He has done this for years. Just lookup his criminal record, it is public right.
Submitted: 4/25/2008 5:32:12 PM
Modified: 4/25/2008 7:53:10 PMC0l0rad0
Gulfport, MississippiU.S.A.
*****Update to this character attack****
Hey, Jeff, so what if I use snips of freely available paragraphs in my agreements. Are you saying that everyone in business has a legal team draft documents that are made from scratch?
We only use NDA's (common) and sometimes NCA's (again, common) so why reinvent the wheel? These are used with express consent from sites that offer that type of service (actually, I paid, in one case) so what's the beef?
How do you use this as an example of some sort of wrong-doing?
And, the Linkery, (and a few others up here) seem to ignore our development terms when it suits them.
We do, in fact, take development project deposits that are in place to GUARANTEE our company (not the client) that we get paid if the client finds another developer or runs out of funds before completion of a project. This deposit is NOT to the benefit of the client. If it were, why would it be a deposit to us? It's a deposit to assure us we get paid if we work.
Linkery did pay a deposit. We did work on the project and had over 20 man-hours invested. When Joel attempted to cancel the project we did suspend work and we billed him at OUR STATED RATE (clearly stated on all project bid boards) of $65 per hour.
At 20 hours we had over $1300 invested and Joel wanted to pull the plug?
BTW, Joel, why not tell the truth? You agreed to THREE payments. One on inception (which you made), one on beta preview and one on completion. You NEVER made the beta payment. You cancelled the project, demanded all your money back and never made another payment - even though we offered to show you an accounting and what we had done so far.
Call it what you will - we worked for this payment and we SHOULD have sued you for what you owed.
Your use of Rip-Off Reports to attempt to make us give you what is not rightfully yours reeks of extortion.
Once Jeff and his buddy, Nick Burrett, started this ripoff report thing you just jumped on the bandwagon. So easy for you to slander behind the anonymity of the internet.
Well, you and I are in the same counrty, subject to the same rules of litigation, and if you thought you had a valid claim you should have taken it to the county court, where it belonged. Of course, you would have had to prove you were ripped off. You wouldn't be able to simply file this BS and hide out behind the internet.
Submitted: 10/11/2008 1:07:07 AM
Modified: 10/11/2008 9:55:49 PM
Phpl33t
Nashville, TennesseeU.S.A.
Mike Mann back in prison, web media projects shut down. webmediaprojects.com,develop123.com
Mike has been arrested for parole violation after this parole officer recieved enough complaints from Mike's clients, with a little pressure from the DA's office. All of Mike's sites were shut down. He is awaiting trial on numerous lawsuits after his release, as well.
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