Report: National Marketers, LLC
Category: Advertising Agencies
National Marketers, LLC I was promised 25,000 visitors to click on my website, but none of them viewed anything! Phoenix Arizona
*REBUTTAL Owner of Company ..Attn Laurie
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Submitted: 11/20/2008 4:32:41 PM
Modified: 12/12/2008 2:52:38 PMCathy k.
Copperas Cove, TexasI contracted with this company to receive 25,000 guaranteed visitors to my website. I was promised that if a visitor X-ed out of the site, it wouldn't count.
After a couple thousand visitors had been counted, I ran a report on my website to see what products had been viewed. It turned out that not a single product had been viewed.
I complained to the company owner, Paul Ames and he was very rude and condescending.
He used the counter on the homepage of my site and said those were the visitors he has sent. This counter counts every time I go in to add a product, change a description or whatever.
I waited until the full 25,000 imaginary visitors had been counted by National Marketers, and still no products were ever viewed and even the counter on my webpage was significantly less than 25,000.
Cathy k.
Copperas Cove, Texas
U.S.A.
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Updates & Rebuttals:
- untrue and rediculous complaint Paul, Owner, National Marketers [12/4/2008 12:45:46 PM]
- Dear Paul - Your BBB reference is BS Laurie [12/4/2008 2:29:32 PM]
- Attn Laurie Paul, Owner, National Marketers [12/12/2008 1:44:21 PM]

Submitted: 12/4/2008 12:45:46 PM
Modified: 12/4/2008 1:46:11 PMPaul, Owner, National Marketers
Phoenix, ArizonaU.S.A.
untrue and rediculous complaint
Ms Cathy K purchases our advanced package giving her 25,000 visitors to her website. She received all of them, just as promised. What happened is she didn't experience the amount of 'sales' she had hoped for. Which is unfortunate.
We are an advertising company. All we can do is provide advertising. We don't possess the ability to make people buy our client's products. We don't have magic powers.
Ms K then proceeded to attempt to pretend that she didn't receive all of her visitors (to spite the fact that we provide back office access to all of our clients, showing proof of the visitors). In order to try and con herself a refund.
Well, the problem with this little scam of hers is that her website came with a traffic view counter right on the front of it. Which clearly shows she has had over the amount of hits she bought from us. (oops! busted)
If anyone wishes to see that. Simply visit her site(((ROR Redacted))) where you will see her traffic view counter on the bottom of her home page.
In closing...a complaint only means something if its credible. Simply voicing a complaint doesn't mean something wrong has happened to you.
Ms. K doesn't have a complaint. Nothing wrong was done to her. She received exactly what she purchased.
We at National Marketers have a perfect reputation with both the Better Business Bureau, (zero unresolved complaints) www.arizonabbb.org . We are also proud members of the Netcheck Commerse Bureau. www.netcheck.com.
Sincerely, Paul, Owner, National Marketers
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Dear Paul - Your BBB reference is BS
For those who actually read the consumer info provided on this site.
We KNOW that the BBB cannot be counted on.
They do not post complaints against dues paying members and usually side with the DUES PAYING MEMBER in spite of evidence of wrong-doing.
So that makes the rest of your rebuttal questionable as well

Submitted: 12/12/2008 1:44:21 PM
Modified: 12/12/2008 2:52:38 PMPaul, Owner, National Marketers
Phoenix, ArizonaU.S.A.
Attn Laurie
Hello ma'am, not sure who you are but in referance to your comment about the Better Business Bureau cleaning up your record with them if you are a paying member. Actually, thats an interesting comment. Not true, but interesting. However, we are not paying members of the BBB. So there goes your theory. Sorry.
Its sad that this forum which was intended to be serious and important has become a place for rediculous and frivolous, made up complaints. Thats too bad. People used to come here for credible information. Now its become a worthless and meaningless rag. Very sad.
Sincerely, Paul, Owner, National Marketers
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