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Complaint Review: 4X Made Easy - GlobalTec Solutions - Addison Texas

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I am extremely angry with this company. I followed their "rules". I listened to their training. Morning after morning I roused myself at 6am and listened to their "training" until 10am with the hopes of gleaning insights. I rewatched their 6 dvd training set which turns out to be 5 dvds worth of rehashed information and 1 dvd about another program you can purchase to help you trade in the Forex market.

Let me place this into perspective for everyone reading here. I went to their 1 day workshop and I was fairly impressed. Fortunately at that time I didn't have the THREE THOUSAND dollars to invest. So I scrounged and saved and finally returned to another one day workshop and made my purchase. I was excited and ready to work hard, and work hard I did. I spent a week learning the ins and outs of the program and then went to the one day training class. This is where things got odd...after the one day training class I did considerably worse in my "paper" trading then I did before the one day class. Not to mention they tried shoveling a 2nd program down my throat (this is the one enclosed in the "6 dvd training set"). So now I not only need 4x Made Easy at a whopping THREE THOUSAND dollars plus one hundred dollars a month for a feed connection, but now I also need 4x Tracker that constantly looks for "perfect trades" for me while I am not at my computer and I pay another hundred dollars a month for it.

So basically I am paying GlobalTec an initial three thousand plus two hundred dollars a month for "feeds" for two respective programs. Before they rebut this, I know they will say "well you don't NEED tracker"....bologna, the instructor at the one day training will talk all big about it and tell you how much it will help you and how great it will be. Here's an even better one, they give you Tracker one month for free as a trial and then they charge you for it. I canceled mine before the one month was up and the BASTARDS STILL CHARGED ME FOR A MONTH and I didn't even use the thing. I emailed their customer service on 4 occasions (of which they conveniently have no record) and told them to cancel my subscription. OBVIOUSLY they didn't cancel it or I would not have been charged. Let's move on though...so here I am, I have 4x Made Easy and the training dvds and I'm listening to their live broadcast, HELL I was even involved in a Yahoo group for traders that's promoted by 4x Made Easy and GlobalTec. For 6 Months, that's SIX count them, SIX MONTHS I lived, breathed, ate, slept, and studied this scam and I made no progress. I even believed in it so much that I was on the Yahoo boards encouraging others like me to keep trying and giving tips I had found that made sense and seemed to help me at the time. In 6 months I made absolutely no progress...in fact in 6 months I lost the initial cost ($3,000) my monthly feed ($600) my scammed 4x Tracker fee ($100) and my investment to a broker ($600) I lost a total of FOUR THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS that's $4,300.00. This company is nothing but scam artists and high pressure sales men who push a program that they claim they themselves use to make money however if that's true then why are they out selling this program instead of relaxing on a beach making money?

I swore to myself and my friends if this worked I would shout it from the mountains for all to hear...and now that it has failed so brutally and totally I will let everyone know that these people are nothing but soulless greed driven salesmen. I don't know how these people sleep at night knowing how they have screwed over the little people in this country who truly need what little money they have. If ever there was an example of a company that needed to be brought down this is one. And to all those who have been scammed and ruined by GlobalTec I promise I will do all I can to bring them down, to ruin them like they ruined so many others. I will do all I can to put them in the poor house like they have done to all of us. It seems to me the greatest pain you can give to a greedy rich man is to make him poor and I will make it my life's work both in the legal system and in the media to make these people pay for what they have done.

Before I forget myself however, there's more to tell, so let me continue. I have read the other Rip Off Reports about GlobalTec and I have read the rebuttals. I would like to say BEFORE Mr. Johnson rebuts my post that my name is Brian Ciallella and he had better check his records thoroughly and check the Yahoo messenger boards where posts with my name on them still appear, before he questions my being a customer of GlobalTec. Secondly, before he rebuts I would like him to know that NOTHING will satisfy me but a full unconditional refund for the total amount paid for 4x Made Easy (tax and all) and a total refund for the monthly feed. I will accept that I placed my money in the brokers hands and I took that risk, but the money I paid GlobalTec should be refunded. If he does not wish to give me a refund I don't think he should bother contacting me as my mission to topple this inhumane company and all of its sister companies cannot be stopped regardless of whether or not I receive a full refund! I will be writing letters to all of the national news papers and I will be contacting my local TV stations.

To all of you who have read this far and have considered purchasing 4x Made Easy I have this to offer. I have seen countless discussions on the "members" only section of the Yahoo message boards. The failure rate for GlobalTec's Products (specifically 4x Made Easy) is approximately 98% that means 2% show SOME progress. This is pending that these numbers are not skewed by GlobalTec. This being said it stands to reason in my mind the only people who make money on 4x Made Easy is GlobalTec employees.

Brian
Pompano Beach, Florida
U.S.A.

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#16 Consumer Comment

Screwed Me Too

AUTHOR: Steve - Chandler AZ - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 22, 2010

I purchased this software in Feb 2004.  I learned all that there was to be had from the dvd set and the training guide.  I religiously traded for over a year.

During that time I attempted to participate in major slides in the market and was actually able to provide screen print proof of the trades, the status at the time and the outcome of the trades that should have netted me a few thousand dollars each time.  But, what in fact happened is that the software had a 'glitch' and never executed my trade OR the underlying market decided not to execute my trade due to 'extreme volatility'.

I made numerous complaints to GlobalTec in writing and they refused to do anything, fix the 'issue' with the software (as they claimed that it was) or refund my money for a defective product.

Now, I can perfectly understand that I was dealing with some butt-hole scam artist company but what really got me is when I decided to stop using it and cancel the feed that they refused and continued to bill my CC months later.  I finally had to have my bank cancel my card and reissue because they no longer were willing to continually file fraud chargeback claims.

But that isn't what pissed me off the most:  I then decided that I would unload the software on eBay for a small portion of what I paid ($3228.61 - I still retained my receipt).  GlobalTec had the f-ing nerve to actually contact eBay and have my auction nullified for intellectual rights violations.  I owned the d**n thing, I paid for it, and this ridiculous company thinks that they can screw me out of selling my own belongs?

I complained to the Atty Gens for AZ and FL, BBB, the FTC, and because the feed was transmitted, also the FCC.  No one gave a crap.  No one investigated this professional scam artist and instead allowed them to continue screwing the public.

Well, I may have the last laugh.  Since I retained my receipt, I can prove worth and intend to donate the stupid thing and write the donation off on my taxes.

Screw GlobalTec and anyone else that is dumb enough to buy their crap after having read these consumer reports.

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#15 UPDATE EX-employee responds

"Buyer Beware" IS good advice

AUTHOR: Taryn Gilbert - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, April 17, 2010

Regarding the posting that perhaps the buyer of this software is the one to blame is ridiculous.  One can obviously (and currently) blame the economy (even though the original complaint of this organization is from several years ago), the person who says the buyer is to blame or should somehow blame themselves for the failures resulting from the software use is crazy.

If you've never used the software or know nothing about the company, why put in your two cents?  I was an employee of this organization and though was treated well when I was there was not a fan of their marketing tactics and agree with the original complaintant.

By the way, you who believe the buyer is to blame, the company discussed in this report filed for bankruptcy protection in October.  I guess all those consumers were at fault, definitely not the company.  Surely not.

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#14 General Comment

Buyer Beware...of YOURSELF!

AUTHOR: tony gomez - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 03, 2010

There are hundreds of systems out there that can teach you how to trade. One is just as good as another. Some cost more, some cost less. They all cost something. But the system is only half of the equation. The other half is YOU. I speak to people all the time that say "Ive tried every system out there, and none of them work." In each of these tries, there is one common denominator: YOU. The person trying all these systems.


Fact of the matter is, 95% of the people that try their hand in any kind of trading fail, and fail miserably. Is this because of the system they were using? If other people are using the same system and succeeding? Or do you think it might be the person USING the system?


I have no horse in this race. I neither represent this company or the people complaining about it. I just think its kinda funny when I read these types of complaints. I find it humorous because I know that the axiom is true: "You CANNOT cheat an honest man." These salesmen pandered to your greed..... AND YOU BIT!!! In the end, you can only blame yourself.


My advice is to take this as a lesson and move on with your life. Dont let yourself be taken in by your own greed ever again. Then nobody can sell you a pile of steaming crap. (Assuming that it is and you are not) This may seem a bit harsh, but it is true all the same.  


Making it your lifes ambition to "bring these people down" over a measly few thousand dollars kinda cheapens you as a person, wouldnt you say? Is that what you are worth? Are you really going to allow this mistake that you have made consume you? It has always been my belief that it is never good to let anything take up space in my head without being paid rent for that space in advance. Just some food for thought people. Take it for what its worth. God Bless.

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#13 Consumer Comment

Glad I didn't get started.

AUTHOR: Frank - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, July 07, 2007

Thanks for the heads up comments especially Brian and David. I know next to nothing about investing in the stock market, but I had a friend who had encouraged me to "try" wizetrade. She claimed she had just started and was making initial profits, but probably not enough to offset the software cost. Said she had a friend who made double his money every month. So I went to the website , saw the demo videos and the demo of the channel feed. It looked all nice, with people calling in, supposedly "customers". One thing that struck me funny was one customer who seemed worried on their phone wanted to know why the the green line was not matching the red. One of the show hosts just said it was kind of "funny" and didn't have much else to say except to probably get out of the stock when the slope of the line "just started" to change drastically. That wasn't very comforting to me. I would expect the software for $4000 would up some online interpretations. Maybe right click on it and have some instant report. True I didn't have the software by myself but shouldn't the host be more informed on "funny" behavior of the green line?

Well, I heard from my friend a month later. She said she was broke and had to work overtime again. She admitted there was no "friend" when I asked about it. Glad I made the snap decision to research the web and found review sites like this one. I was that close to trying it. Thank you all.

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#12 Consumer Comment

I understand you completly Brian

AUTHOR: Tony - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Brian gave this scam more than enough time and money to work. It is not about the risk of the market or willingness to lose money in a trade. I just tonight came back from that "free" initial presentation.

For the price, I was very reluctant to purchase but really wanted to try 4xMadeEasy. They gave me the option to take the software home without paying up front but said I would have to purchase by tomorrow evening to get $1,000 off the $4,495 price. I had to sign the contract with only my name and address and signature ( I know that was stupid) but the state of NY gives everyone 3 days to back out so I thought what the hell I'll take a closer look at it.

During the viewing of the video one of the head traders Greg I believe, stated very truthfully "No one has a crystal ball, what makes 4xMadeEasy work is the trend, if you learn it and work it properly". So I figured that's all I want is the opportunity to have somewhat of a pattern to discern a direction of trade to put my hard earned money down. But after hearing from Brian I now realize 4xMadeEasy does not work the way they so thoughtfully explain it.

I believe Brian because I understand why he is so pissed off at these smooth kind speaking crooks. They very carefully express themselves in a way that makes you feel safe like a friend or loving family member would do. When you get ripped off by friends and family you get madder then hell. You're suppose to be able to close your eyes with family and friends knowing that your best interest is with them all the time. And don't hand me that crap that you should never feel safe with strangers or businessmen. Everyone wants to do business with honest people and the only way to do that is to trust people you don't know.

It's time America gets back to being the honest decent country we started out as. It's good there is a site like ripoffreport.com to help in that endeavor. And Brian you have already helped many a strangers by so artfully stating your case and I feel sure you will not lose any money because of it. You will get your money back tenfold just keep up your positive attitude and courage - it's worth more than any stinking box of shitheel's scam. They are already trying to get in touch with you to deal no doubt. Let us know how you make out.

Sincerely Tony.

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#11 Consumer Comment

$4000 for just a software?!

AUTHOR: Ali - (Canada)

POSTED: Saturday, October 21, 2006

MY GOD!! Just for a software that shows where the stocks are headed....just pathetic. Ok, I have been trading in market for years, via Internet; and what I have to say is the following:

1.) NO TRADING INDICATORS ARE PERFECT. They have an anlysis on where the stock MAY BE HEADED...and CURRENT TRENDS AND POSITIONS. But they IN NO WAY can tell what the future outcome may be. The main thing everyone has to remember is the past performance does not in any guarantee future performance. They may give an EDUCATED GUESS on what MAY HAPPEN, not WILL HAPPEN. In order to make money in trading anything, you have to stradegize based on what his happening now. And if the stradegy fails, make sure you have "stop loss" option in the online brokerage company softwares, like Marketiva, Oanda, Tradefreedom, RefcoXpress.

2.) To pay for an INDICATOR software $4000 is a PURE RIPOFF! If one does some research in the internet, they will find technical indicators FOR FREE! And with companies like Oanda and Tradefreedom, minimums are just around $1 to $100 to start trading....NOT THOUSANDS.

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#10 Consumer Suggestion

I agree with you, Brian

AUTHOR: Edinei - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, July 14, 2006

I also was moved by their late night shows, where they showed how "easy" was to make money using their 4xmadeeasy software. I remember, "the only thing you need to do is follow the lights..." they said. Then I was tempted to attend their so called "free" seminars, and the next thing I knew, I was there in Woburn, MA listening to them. I did not resist them, by that time I thought I had found the gold mine.

Everything was so easy, that anyone virtually could do it but looking back now I see a victim from a rip-off scheme I was. Everything was good in the seminar but when I got home after I spent 3000.00 dollars, I begun seeing that things were not like they advertise. The lights following takes me to nowhere, then I learned that in order for me to get better they suggested me I should buy more from them, like the "big lights strategy", they said. I begun realizing that all that BS was worthless, it simply did not work as they appear on the TV ads showing. There were much more to learn, to pay(endless fees), to spend which made me really mad and disappointed. Why don't they say that on their TV shows, or either on their seminars ? I came to realize that the entire thing was designed to get you in, and then forget it, all that BS was to let you on your own. I lost my money guys as you did, and I am with you.

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#9 Consumer Suggestion

james dicks used to be affiliated with 4x made easy

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 26, 2006

this message is for brian in florida. james dicks used to be affiliated with 4x made easy. he is now not affiliated with them. he now is with premier trade (his own company). if you're still interested in trading the forex check him out..... and also if you don't want to pay 3000.00 bucks for the software you can piddle them down. when wize trade told me how much it was i laughed. i told them they were nuts and actually recieved a price just south of 2 grand.... make them go lower on the price..... don't pay a fortune for it. i didn't. and yes i have lost money trading the 4x markets. get rid of the get rich quick attitude. i use it for DIVERSIFACTION!!!!!!

good luck in the future.....

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#8 Consumer Comment

The squeaky wheel

AUTHOR: Roger - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 23, 2006

It does my heart good to see people like Brian take the time and effort to stand up to a company that he honestly feels has scammed him. The wheel has to squeak pretty loud to get some people to pop up with their hush money. I am very familiar with this company and their products. Whenever someone pays this kind of money for their dream, they really want to believe. They hold hope against hope that they didn't get fleeced.

When they consistently lose on so called "perfect trades", they first blame themselves. Musta done something wrong. Calls to the gurus (if they answer their phone) reinforce this and they are simply made to feel stupid. But slowly they learn that they were't stupid...just trusting. They were dealing with heartless people without souls.

I've been in the trading industry for many years and this company is the laughing stock of every professional trader. They don't have the guts to show their face at the major tradeshows anymore because the people who attend them are seasoned traders who know ineffective trading systems when they see them no matter how it's packaged or how slick it's promoted.

This company makes megamillions from the trusting folks that show up at their hotel hype fests. Big ads and infomercials work everytime. I just wanted to take a moment to thank ripoffreport.com for their existence and for the hope it gives me and others that the light will shine on these types of operations and the word can get out that, if you squeak long and loud, you'll get your money back. With the FTC, SEC, CFTC, the Attorney Generals in 50 states and RipOffReport.com, even the biggest cannot continue to hurt good people. Good for you, Brian.

Roger
Austin, TX
USA

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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Contact the Federal Trade Comission

AUTHOR: Derik - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 17, 2006

Here is a similar rip-off scam that was reported to the FTC and stopped: ftc.gov/
opa/2005/05/britishcapital.htm

Maybe we can report 4X Made Easy as well.

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#6 Consumer Comment

REPLY TO DAVID FROM JUPITER

AUTHOR: Jeanne - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 08, 2006

Give me a break you're a day trader that never lost any money? Yeah right, and I was born yesterday. I don't know which planet you come from (Oh yeah, Jupiter) but that's not what really happens down here on Earth.

How much did you get paid from Global Tech, LLC to say that? Anyone that says they never lost any money trading (especially a day trader is a liar). Though it is true that one should not trade with monies they cannot afford to lose that still does not give these companies the right to lie and rip people off. When you go to their so called free seminar all it is a sales pitch claiming that you can make money (and lots of it) using their program. You pay 4K for a stupid (unsophisticated program) and it's supposed to tell you when to get into or out of a stock. However, all you end up getting are unsatisfied customers who end up losing more money then they make. It is never disclosed that people should not trade with money they cannot afford to lose. All they state at their free seminars is unsubstantiated past claims of how much people made and all you have to do is dish out 4K and you can do the same.

Companies making claims like these should be forced to verify them, however, until the consumer laws change people have to smarten up and not be taken. If it sounds too good to be true then it is. Unfortunately, these companies hire well trained sales people (not traders) who can sell snow to the Eskimos. They hire people who are good motivational speakers who con you into believing that you too can make lots of money with their product. However, it's all BS.

Making money takes time, education (which you can obtain for a lot less than 4K), and patience. There is no seminar or program that is magically going to make you rich overnight so you can quit your day job.

David, by the way, you've been trading for ten years never lost any money and all you have to trade with is 100K? Which I may add you stated you invest. I do hope you know there is a difference between investing and trading. May I suggest that when you write another whopper of a story at least try to be more accurate and try not to leave any holes in your story. I know successful traders and investors alike who have been trading within this ten year period and 100K is just a fraction of the money they have made. Especially during the bull market. Apparently you're not as successful as you may think.

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#5 Consumer Comment

Seeking truth about WizeTrade and others programs... My advice from experience in markets for many years

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 30, 2006

First, I want to say poster David is right: NOBODY ought to be in any inevvestment venue whether it is equities (stocks), debt instruments (bonds), commodities futures, etc or any other type of investment UNLESS you fully understand the background basics and inherent characteristics of each as well as all the conditions that can affect the market or indices you are involved with; because, when you trade your own money, I GUARANTEE you, your emotions and life will become engulfed 100% because you are risking your hard earned monies (and know this mentally), and paper trading IS NOT a good indicator of real time, real life performances ( I don't care what anyone tells you). You can, and many do, lose all or part of their investment monies, or can gain as well- under US securities laws all securities firms of any nature of investment MUST give you full disclosure that you can lose all of part of your capital- PERIOD!

DO NOT USE MONIES YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE IS MY ADVICE BEFORE YOU EVER CONSIDER OPENING A MARGIN/TRADING ACCOUNT AT ANY BROKERAGE...

Now moving forward, I was about to go to a conference this afternoon in Greenville, SC which I caught on yesterday's TV about this WizeTrade program to see what it is about. it did sound very intereting indeed.. To be honest, after reading all these posts (pro & con), I am seriously bothered this is just another over spun mental manipulation of the masses that if you go to their informatinal program you will be made to feel like you can gain from purchasing our software and pay ongoing fees for counseling, etc.. This is the problem I have, and YES, it concerns me! Because, here in western NC, I have seen countless similar programs pop up on TV from real estate investing to securities trading, etc. and it is all in the end, a scam to get a large percentage of people minimally duped into buying software as if it will give them an edge, and that simply is a fantasy! Here, there is a HUGE en masse influx by baby boomers with $$$$ in their hands (able to buy 2nd, 3rd homes in the millions of dollars), as well as mass localized unemployment and low-wage Wal Mart type jobs with over 250,000 local "living wage" industry jobs lost to Mexico- so you have a formula for "people with more money than they know what to do with" as well as "desperate people seeking a way to become rich and not lose their homes that are going into foreclosure", and these national traveling marketing gurus know this and the demographics before they come to these areas... GOOD information costs money, sure. But GURUS like this WizeTrade and many others always amazed me, if they have such full-proof systems, why the hell go through stress wasting their time on the average American who may not even have the "jazz" to become a half decent investor in the first place? It is purely capitalism, and as long as their TV adds and literature run a small disclaimer somewhere that you can lose all your money by investing, they stay on the side of "legal"... And they have a group of very wize and smart associates all working together to ensure they stay just on side of "legal" with a hint of "scam" to lure gullible folks along the way... McCorkle is one that coems to mind who did this (he is still in prison) and many other investment gurus over the years, and now, I see this Wizetrade as nothing different overall...

I tell you, I used to trade. I traded a lot and for about 10 years. I had a plan, paid for information daily to disseminate charts as well as fundamental matters globally. Remember, you are now in a global economy- NOT a national economy like the old days used to be. Factors across the world 24/7 will and can affect any d**n thing you risk your monies into so you better understand what you are playing around with. It is an animal with its own life and NO EMOTIONS about who you are. I used to specifically trade futures contracts and options (preference) besides various other investments which I supported and funded initially from my original business years ago and that was the right way. Set aside speculating income you do not need to exist on, because you can lose all of it. I won't go into all the programs, courses and training I participated in over 10 years of my former life, but I was successful and used to average like $5,000.00-$8,000.00 per week on a very good week. I was NOT day trader (bad in my opinion), but a mid to long term positions trader/investor and managed positions I analyzed for weeks and months before even getting into them and placing "stops" along to way to lock my profits. Sometimes I did well, other times I was caught in Limit Down positions against my own positions and not a d**n thing you can do until they unfreeze the market- and hope to God you can recoup part of those losses and not be wiped out...

Anyway, I know markets well enough, and had associations to principels in securities markets as well to confer with, was into making weekly private newsletters, etc the whole bit- but I lost everything in a divorce several years ago, and because I always had a love of the markets anyway, I never have been able to recoup or make income like I used to, to even seriously consider opening a margin account these days- and the way I know it needs to be done safely... Point is, I thought perhaps this WizeTrade was possibly something informative and as I look through this Rip Off report today, it is apparent, it is another well orchestrated chain of people that on the surface ride that thin line between legal and illegal scam, and I give up after this; because what they are trying to do, is tap into the only last bastion of wealth in USA, and that is of us baby boomers who are fortunate enough to have assets, capital, pensions, etc. going into retirement, and trying creative ways to get at those dollars- just like the real estate community is trumping up homes hundreds of percent above what they truly are worth, and I fear many will become debt/bankruptcy victims long term with marketers like these people...

These marketers, in all honesty, ARE NOT giving you anything more than you can find if you have the patience, and take time to research so much information avalaible to you free today at various sources. Including what you would get from any reputable securities brokerage firm as a client anyway. Remember, these gurus are "middle men" and anytime you go through a third party you cause yourself more waste of time, money and energy in my opinion. But people are gullible and stupid in my opinion. Regardless of proof or facts in their face, always some ego driven baby boomer or youngster will think he can outsmart the markets (falls for these gurus marketing ploys) and knows more than those who manipulate and control the markets globally... Do what you want with your money, but my advice is, before you invest thousands into 3rd party information readily available today for FREE (if you get off your a*s and do some homework), you will find you will casue your life, family, and bank account more stress than is needed....

Remember, the best quotes a private investor can get at even a nominal monthly price (from their brokerage, futuresource, futurelink, etc..) will be 10 minute clips of market activity- a hell of a lot can happen in 10 minutes in today's total electronic world.. So to get "real time" information, quotes, and live streaming information (like the big forms utilize) you better realize what price that comes with and many times thousands of dollars per month charge to do so (for each module or specific marker you are tracking)- So you need to be a serious, educated, and healthy enough person to say you are a serious investor and have the right tools in place before you "go to work" as the case may be... Truth be told, 80-90% of all "wanna be" private investors" lose all their margin accounts in time... Something to think about.

These gurus do make me sick, preying on people like they do. They know what makes people tick. And if Wizetrade or their respective associates are actually trying to defraud people (as I suspect creatively at the least), it is time for the FBI (and SEC) to get involved and really track and watch these groups doing this, as they are everywhere today, and we have more fraud, identity theft, scams, etc today than ever before in history and people have to be wize to reality verses hype daily... Problem with SEC (dealt to them and every law enforcement agency on planet in my former consulting biz), is as long as a group adverises "no investment advice given at seminar" it clears the group from SEC regulations. And as far as FBI, unless a purposeful crime can be proven to have taken place, they too cannot step in... And these gurus all know the limits they can push, believe me...

In the end, remember this, We are in a time of scandals. Sure there always have been, but major securities regulated companies in fact have even become part of scandals themselves.. It is a dangerous time and you need to be 100% sure what you are doing and with whom before you expose your monies to global risk factors... And also, every securities regulated brokerage company out there offers each client several options of resources, help, direction, training, and aid depending on your level of expertise; so why go through some 3rd party marketing guru?? Because in order to make any trade, you MUST execute those trades through the brokerage directly which you hold margin account and NO 3rd party guru can ever do this for you!!! They only confuse you, get in the way, and make messy an otherwise streamlined operation as far as trading your money into any market...

Good Luck !!

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AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 25, 2006

First let me say that I am a user of Wizetrade and the 4X Made Easy system. -- For the past ten years I have been a someewhat successful day trader, in other words I didn't lose any money.... Two years ago I got hooked up with GlobalTec and my success rate has more then doubled. I'm only telling you this to show that some people do very well with GlobalTec products... I read 'Brian's' complaint and I have a comment that I hope he listens to.... Anyone who cannot afford the 3000 plus dollars to purchase the program should not even think of investing in the market... The stock market is not a get rich quick program. It takes years of training and studying charts and trends before you should invest real dollars. The great part of Wizetrade is you can execute live "Paper-Trades" without investing any money... There is not a better program to learn the business.... If 'Brian' has a few extra dollars he should get a broker and invest the money in a good mutual fund... If you can't afford to lose, then the stock market is not a place to be.... I have $100.000 that I use for investing. If I lost every penny of it today, my life style would not change in any way. I really think that "Brian" would have the same problem with any company or computerized program he purchased.... GlobalTec is not the monster that you guys are trying to make it out to be.. Wizetrade and 4X Made Easy and all similar products are simply aids to help you in the decision process of careful investing....

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Dynetech Corp DBA 's: Global Tech, Optionetics, Securities Trading Corporation, Techwerks, See other DBA's like 4x Made Easy etc.

AUTHOR: Fyi - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, November 10, 2005

I've read some of the complaint reports and they are so similar to any that you read regarding training/coaching services.
Huge promises of big money to get you to sign up, then when complaints come in each one says the same thing. It's a business, not a get rich quick scheme, no promises of income - bla, bla, bla - every excuse in the book not to be accountable for claims made.

Make sure you read copy & paste the links for background info on Laurence J. Pino, CEO/Dynetech Corp. I was @?%^%#&* when I saw Citrus Collection Agency listed at the same FL address. Isn't that outragous -- here Larry is an attorney, selling consumers services, getting them to commit to his programs, and when it doesn't work out for the consumers, they aren't making money with his programs, they are losing money and can't pay the original financial commitment - he uses his in-house collection agency - and has his gurus say - oh, it isn't our fault, we made no promises, everyone should keep trying, we're not the bad guys - Ya Right.

Here is the scoop: Lots of info - hope it helps those looking for it & needing it.

Phone numbers are cross referenced below for each business name. Staggering how many there are, Businesses + DBA's. If companies are trust worthy, run ethical business practices - then WHY do they have to keep changing business package titles and business names - it is Ridiculous.

Business Names with this SAME Texas address:
4X Made Easy / ForeX
Commodities Made Easy
GlobalTec Solutions, LLP
Options Made Easy
MarketPlace Pro
Wizetrade

15601 N Dallas Pkwy Suite 200
Addison, TX 75001
Mr. Jeff Johnson, Chief Operations Officer or Principal
Each has their own BBB report even though they have the same address, check it out for your self to see who names are listed with each.

Dynetech Corporation DBA's: Global Tech, Optionetics, Securities Trading Corporation, Techwerks,
255 S Orange Ave Ste 600
Orlando, FL 32801
Orange County
Laurence J. Pino Chairman & CEO
Mr. David Early, President or Principal Contact for all listed below

Other Business Names with this SAME Florida address:
4X Made Easy

American Cash Flow Corporation (ACFC) DBA's: American Cash Flow Association, American Cash Flow Corporation, American Cash Flow Institute, American Cash Flow Journal
Complaints to Ms. Patricia T. Wilson

Citrus Collection Agency, Laurence J Pino CEO
Emerald Capital Group Inc., Complaints to Ms. Patricia T. Wilson

International Acceptance Company DBA: International Acceptance Corp, Citrus Collection Agency, Laurence J Pino CEO

Kessler Real Estate Institute DBA's: International Acceptance Co., International Acceptance Corp. DBA Business Skills Corporation

MyAuctionCo.com

One Minute Millionaire Institute DBA Life Skills Corp.

Options Made Easy

Robert Allen Institute -. DBA Business Skills Corporation

Wizetrade

Want to know about Laurence J. Pino, Dynetech Corporation CEO, go to: http://www.papersourceonline.com/newswk.htm & http://www.lawyerlounge.com/forum/forum.php?id=P767
June 2003 -The 2nd web reference, scroll down & read last 3 paragraphs: [2] ACFA, ACFI, NMII, DCFI among other names, all founded by Pino & received reprimand by Florida Bar Assoc for misusing an investor's funds. Last paragraph = Tennessee Cease & Desist Order charged ACFC & related businesses for operating an illegal securities scheme 1996 General of Tennessee sited Pino for similar tactics under DCFI which paid fines for violating Tennessee Consumer Protection Act

Websites:
www.robertalleninstitute.com
http://acfa-cashflow.com/
acfwebpartner.com goes to -- http://www.cashflowpro.com/
http://cashflowindustry.com/
http://www.americancashflow.com/
http://www.americancashflowindustry.com/
http://www.dynetech.com/
http://www.emeraldcapitalgroup.com/
http://www.kesslerrealestateinstitute.com/contents/complete23.php
http://www.marketplacepro.com/
http://www.markvictorhansen.com/
http://www.myauctionco.com/
http://www.mymediaworks.com/
http://www.oneminutemillionairesystem.com/
http://www.robertalleninstitute.com/
http://www.techwerks.net/

phone number cross-reference with DBA business names.

(407) 206-6580 = Dynetech Corp
(407) 206-6581 = Dynetech Corp
(407) 206-6582 = Dynetech Corp
(407) 425-7831 = Dynetech Corp
(407) 648-9499 = Dynetech Corp
(407) 649-1903 = American Cash Flow Corp, Citrus Collection Agency, Dynetech Corp, International Acceptance company, Kessler Real Estate Institute, One Minute Millionaire Institute, Robert Allen Institute
(407) 649-8488 = Dynetech Corp
(407) 843-4866 = American Cash Flow Corp
(800) 253-1293 = Dynetech Corp & Wizetrade
(800) 253-1294 = American Cash Flow Corp.
(800) 348-0156 = Dynetech Corp & One Minute Millionaire Institute
(800) 348-0158 = Dynetech Corp & ACFC / American Cash Flow Corp
(800) 499-9444 = Dynetech Corp & Kessler Real Estate Institute
(800) 713-6901 = Dynetech Corp & American Cash Flow Corp
(800) 713-6902 = Dynetech Corp & Emerald Capital Group Inc
(800) 809 1274 = Citrus Collection Agency
(800) 809-1279 = Dynetech Corp, Emerald Capital Group Inc, International Acceptance Co.
(800) 809-1281 = Dynetech Corp & Robert Allen Institute
(800) 809-7301 = Dynetech Corp & MyAuctionCo.com
(800) 874-0388 = Dynetech Corp
(407) 206-6500 (FAX) = Dynetech Corp, ACFC & 4X Made Easy
(407) 206-6501 (FAX) = Dynetech Corp
(407) 206-6508 (FAX) = Dynetech Corp & American Cash Flow Corp
(407) 422-7425 (FAX) = American Cash Flow Corp
(407) 649-1903 (FAX) = Dynetech Corp, ACFC, Citrus Collection Agency, International Acceptance Company, Kessler Real Estate Institute, One Minute Millionaire Institute & Robert Allen Institute
(407) 843-4866 (FAX) = American Cash Flow Corp
866 260-4900 = Commodities Made Easy
(888) 304-8881 = Wizetrade
(888) 720-5200 = 4x Made Easy, Global Tech LLC
(888) 988-7100 = Options Made Easy
(972) 387-4728, (972) 387-4729 (FAX), = 4x Made Easy, Commodities Made Easy, Global Tec Solutions, LLP, Options Made Easy, Wizetrade
(972) 387-4830 = Wizetrade

Tangled webs indeed

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#2 UPDATE Employee

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AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, November 10, 2005

Brian,

I have responded to Tami's post regarding your issue. We have truly been trying to reach you for the last 24 hours but have been unsuccessful. It is possible that the phone number we have is bad, and we have had no response to an email that was sent.

We would like to speak to you and reach an amicable resolution and we hope to hear from you soon. Please contact Jake Self at our offices at your earliest convenience.

I apologize for the delay in responding to this post and I appreciate your patience. We look forward to hearing from you.

Respectfully,

Jeff Johnson
Vice President Operations/COO
Globaltec Solutions

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Global tec owned by Dynetech Corporation

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, October 26, 2005

Hi Brian,

I want to let you know that the brains behind Global tec now is a guy from Florida by the Name of Laurence Pino of Dynetech Corporation in Orlando, FL. He's an attorney that has had some infractions with the Florida Bar. Apparently George Thompson the founder of Wizetrade went into partnership with him and now dynetech runs all their promotions and conferences along with collecting the profits. Check out the web site www.moneymakersofamerica.com you will see other affiliated scam artists that run all sorts of seminars from options to cash flow and real estate seminars. Go to www.orlando.bbb.org/codbrep.html?ID=202770&cons=y
and you'll see contact people at Dynetech you can also place a complaint with. May I suggest that you stay away from any other listed companies affiliated with this guy.

You should place a call to Dynetech Corporation and ask to speak to him personally to place a complaint. Also call The Florida Bar Association, the CFTC at 202-418-5391 and FTC (Federal Trade Commission)and any other organizations you can think of. If you have any other questions let me know.

Good luck!!!!

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