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Complaint Review: ACN - Farmington Hills Michigan

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OK, I thought pyramiding was illeagal. This company says it markets mouth to mouth, you tell your friends and your family and they tell theirs and so on and so fourth, right? Then why to gwt involved does it cost you 500 dollars? And let me tell you what your 500 dollars gets you... IF YOU CAN SIGN UP 3 PEOPLE WITHIN 30 DAYS! (OR GET 5 "CUSTOMER POINTS")You get to become an "Independant Representitive" for ACN! And you now have the potential to make a commission (7 or 8 cents) off of everyone you sign up's phone bills... Whoo-h*o! Everyone rejoyce!

Upon becomming a "Independant Representitive" for ACN you get to trick and con your friends and family to purchase ACN's VOIP - Phone service (like Vonage)for the low price of 24.99 a month, and wait thats not all, when you check your bank statement or your credit card statement you also get the suprise of your life free of charge! You get to see that the one low price of 24.99 has now turned into a charge for 67 dollars and a totaly separate charge for 27 dollars!

And hey dont try to cancel the service... oh no, no. no. Because if you do they'll charge you 99 dollars per line to cancel the service, sure they tell you they will give you 60 of it back (if you signed up before June 1st) but that they absolutley have to debit the full 99 because it is part of the new terms and conditions, (the new terms and conditions they are not aloud to change without giving you 45 days notice) and of course thats not including the fee's to send back the boxes and equpiment. This company makes promises to deliver and never does they steal your money and their customer service is awful, a bunch of kids who have no idea what they are talking about.

But you know what? You might as well not bother cancelling at all, cause even when your service is cancelled... THEY STILL BILL YOUR FREAKING CARD!

SO... IF ANYONE COMES UP TO YOU... AND ASKS YOU IF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT ACN... AND OR TRIES TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BECOME A "MEMBER"... SPIT IN THEIR FACE AND WALK AWAY... ITS THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO... BESIDES TELL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT THIS HORRIFIC COMPANY!

Melissa
BALTIMORE, Maryland
U.S.A.

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#17 UPDATE Employee

Get your facts straight!

AUTHOR: Lyndonsa3 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, March 22, 2009

I couldn't have said it better Nicholas!!! There are a lot of simple-minded people out there. Fortunately for us, we are NOT one of them.
From a fellow ACN Future SVP

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#16 UPDATE Employee

people like you make me laugh

AUTHOR: Aygot Suk Zess - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 04, 2009

See people like you are the type of people that talk bad about something good because you weren't able to have success with it.
ACN is not a bad company, i mean if its so bad why is it that we are currently running in 20 countries and 3 different continents, and have Mr. Donald Trump endorce our company.
people think ACN is a get rich quick scheme, but that is not how it is. ACN does not promise you success. It all depends on your productivity and how hard you actually work.and i know for a fact that you didn't even last a month in ACN. and you obviously don't want to blame your self for your failure so you blame the company.
Let me put it this way..
Alot of people get gym memberships, but not alot of people get results. Its not because the gym equipment doesn't work. it is because your not concistant and you don't work hard.
ACN gives you the opportunity to own your own company within a company. it takes time and effort. That is why its strongly adviced by every representative to do this part time.
With the videophone thing, i don't now who signed you up but they really screwed up. I have 8 videophones working just fine and i pay what i was told i was going to pay. And that is one of the main reasons why it will be featured in The Celebrity Apprentice on March 22nd on NBC from 9 pm to 11 pm.
Think about this......If all this companies that have huge reputations out there in the telecomunications field like AT&T, Verizon, Nextell, Altell, Sprint, Direct TV, Dish Nework, ADT security systems etc..saw something that will benefit to partner up with ACN. Why in the world would you not think there is something going on. I mean, if it made sence to them how does it not make sence to you....lol you make me laugh...
now when you tell everybody that if one of us asks them to take a look at the opportunity to potentially make some money, to spit in our faces. Seriously we are humans too, we just happen to be the 3% of people who will be financially free while you and all the people that you kill their dreams by telling them ACN sucks will rely on 9 to 5 jobs that will require most of your time and barely any money. I think that you should really think about what ACN can really do for you, and stop crying that you lost 500 bucks..because by the way you can get them back within your first 2 weeks if you really didn't believe in your own success.

Feel free to reply

Thank you,
Aygot suk zess

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#15 UPDATE Employee

Tune in March 22

AUTHOR: Kristin - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, February 23, 2009

To all those that speak of ACN being a scam..I invite you to tune in to NBC's The Apprentice at 9pm on Sunday, March 22, for a 2 hour long episode that feature's ACN and the extrodianry new innovations in telecommunications that this company has to offer. Would the one and only Donald Trump back a company that is a scam...would he risk his billions for something that doesn't have his name attached to it that wasn't a sure thing? Before you form an opinion consider your source, and don't ruin a great opportunity for others to either save money, or make money.

Before you respond..watch the show, and how the products touch the lives of those in the episode. If a scam is something that has no risk as long as you do what you're supposed to do, and don't be lazy, then it's a scam...but this company gives you the means and the support to go out there and be successful, but without your hard work , you will fail. I'm guessing that whoever has bad things to say about this company didn't put in the work. Smart, motivated, hard working people get ahead faster...maybe they should sit back and look at themselves because i know people that are making more than i made last year working full time...in a month! It all comes back to are you willing to put in the time and effort to have a successful business.

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#14 UPDATE Employee

The whole truth

AUTHOR: Msm24 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, February 20, 2009

I hate to say this but your friend who sold you the phone LIED TO YOU. If you had been paying attention you would have realized that you were being charged for something other then what you asked for. I really hope that the person who sold you the services didn't simply tell you that you could use your own phone on the service. You would NEED a DIGITAL PHONE for DIGITAL PHONE SERVICE.

As for ACN the Business. For All the people who are commenting on the law and how ACN is a pyramid, guess what, you all are making yourselves sound stupid. Steve, Pyramid scheming is a FELONY. You CANNOT pay a settlement for a FELONY!

I happen to KNOW that a pyramid schemes definition is on wikipedia. Look it up please so that you know that I am telling you the truth.

A pyramid scheme is an UNSUSTAINABLE business model that is ILLEGAL in a number of countries, including the USA. 2 things can be said of a pyramid schemes. A pyramid scheme business model does not allow you to move past the person in your "upline" no matter how hard you work. A pyramid scheme also will usually have no product or will pay you for your RECRUITING EFFORTS DIRECTLY.

ACN does not pay you for your recruiting efforts. To be 100% honest, I don't know what the 500 dollars is used for. I do know on the other had that you get paid when your recruit QUALIFIES. 5 customer points which can come from the recruit themselves OR the recruits customers. Having said that, you are getting paid for CUSTOMERS ONLY. If you own a store and your family member purchases something from you, isn't it the same thing as if you bought it or a stranger that you didn't know bought it. In this case you would ALL be considered CUSTOMERS. You are actually being given a break here because if you couldn't be your own customer, most people would never work hard enough to find customers. 95% of the people fail in Network Marketing, but if you look at the stats 95% of the country are wage earners. The other 5% are business owners who control 95% of the countries wealth. Like wise 5% of the country would be considered business MINDED.

ACN also allows you to move ahead of the person who sponsors you. That means the person is your mentor, NOT YOUR BOSS. You need to be working for yourself because if you are waiting for your boss to tell you to work or your fired, it will not work for you. Why, because you are not being BUSINESS MINDED.

So, when ACN calls them CUSTOMER acquisition bonuses, its because you have produced a CUSTOMER. As such, ACN cannot be classified as a Pyramid Scheme.

I hope that the people who would believe me would do research without looking for "scam" behind the word because you will always find people who came into a business expecting a job or something that will make them rich before the end of the year. I hope that the people who do not believe me would also do research without looking for the word "scam".

3 AG's on the legal staff, Nationally known companies and billionaires have reputations. All of them would probably not associate with a company that could put that reputation in jeopardy, right. After all, If Nationally known companies have a bad name, people don't buy from them anymore. AG's with a bad name, LOSE THEIR LICENSES. Donald Trump, THE BILLIONAIRE, wouldn't personally endorse a company that could lose him any of his endorsements that pay him, have a possible bad spin of PR or even ruin business relationships that would halt further deals for him. My Point is, If they believe in ACN, why do all the broke, non-business minded people who have no credibility be the voice of reason for someone who wants to create success for themselves.

I hope I was thorough enough!

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#13 Consumer Suggestion

"B" from "Farmington" should get some education BEFORE spouting NONSENSE!!...And..

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 16, 2009

"B",

Actually, it is YOU who is IGNORANT. So, do not call others ignorant, when you, yourself do not have the facts. No do you know the law.

There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between "Multi-Level Marketing" [which is totally legal], and a "pyramid scheme" [ which is ILLEGAL in any form].

Do you think you know the difference between the 2?
I bet that you do not, based on your uneducated drivel.

ACN is a "pyramid" scheme, and has been deemed so by several States' AG's, as well as the FTC. ACN has been sued over this already and has settled, and they have also on several occasions modified their entire marketing and compensation plan to ward off AG Office and FTC scrutiny.

The problem with ACN that makes it a "pyramid" operation is that they charge that HUGE upfront cost of approx $500 for which no REAL goods or services are provided. There is no "value" for the money, as that money simply goes to pay recruiting commissions.

With ACN, the PRIMARY FOCUS is "recruiting" new agents with the focus being on the recruiting bonuses and status upgrades, instead of the major focus being on the sale of goods or services.

The ACN "zombies" try to justify the $500 as back end cost, etc.
That is simply BS. Pure and simple hype and misinformation.

I could point you to an MLM program right now that is ABSOLUTELY FREE to join, and offers better products and services at better prices than ACN. The "back office" expenses are paid out of SALES REVENUE of products and services, as they should be.

The ONLY difference is, that the primary focus is on the sale of goods and services, instead of recruiting.

It is called integrity and hard work.

Instead of ACN which is focused on "get rich quick".
You can find THOUSANDS of horror stories about ACN on the internet.


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Submitted: 1/15/2009 5:32:15 PM
Modified: 1/15/2009 7:16:41 PM B
Farmington Hills, Michigan
U.S.A.

Pyramid is BUSINESS!!!!
For all of those that believe pyramid schemes are illegal you are really ignorant and don't understand how business works. You have a manager that receives a cut from total sales, you have a district manager that receives a cut, you have a division manager that receives a cut, you have a regional manager that receives a cut, um do you see a pattern here. Every one that is considered upper brass receives a cut. From Starbucks to Nordstrom's to Taco Bell, every company is the same way. Wake Up!

With the case of ACN and your typical uneducated person from Maryland, Melissa just doesn't understand business and networking. I currently have a contract with Sprint for my cell phone, if I decide to leave or cancel I have to pay a fee. If I chose to cancel my internet/cable provider, I have to pay a cancellation fee. Is this a new concept? Ahhhhh no. Welcome to big business.

I have never worked for ACN nor have any stake in the company. A partner of mine was talking about today so I thought I would do my own investigation and rip-off report usually brings a lot of laughs with my research. The reason why I find it to be so humorous is because the American public is really ignorant and just plain stupid. Oh and Fat. Case in point, when you do a posting on the internet lets try and have proper grammar and it's really easy to hit spell check. Also I don't understand why we think we know everything about the product that we're belittling. Melissa was with the company for what, 2 months. I just heard she got promoted to french fry engineer at McDonalds. Congrats Melissa!! But lets get back to the case in point, ACN has not done anything wrong but try and solicit their product, and how do you do that; by having agents go out and represent the product. It's the same concept from Mary Kay to Edward Jones to AT&T.

In the end, everyone calm down and let's look at the situation from all angles. Every business is a legal pyramid scheme, the key to being successful is building a productive team below you and only the strong survive unless you work on Wall Street and screw up our whole country. Oh and if I see Melissa on the street I would never spit in her face, I would simply ask her to never post anything on the internet again. So embarrassing, just go and finish high school.

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Pyramid is BUSINESS!!!!

AUTHOR: B - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 15, 2009

For all of those that believe pyramid schemes are illegal you are really ignorant and don't understand how business works. You have a manager that receives a cut from total sales, you have a district manager that receives a cut, you have a division manager that receives a cut, you have a regional manager that receives a cut, um do you see a pattern here. Every one that is considered upper brass receives a cut. From Starbucks to Nordstrom's to Taco Bell, every company is the same way. Wake Up!

With the case of ACN and your typical uneducated person from Maryland, Melissa just doesn't understand business and networking. I currently have a contract with Sprint for my cell phone, if I decide to leave or cancel I have to pay a fee. If I chose to cancel my internet/cable provider, I have to pay a cancellation fee. Is this a new concept? Ahhhhh no. Welcome to big business.

I have never worked for ACN nor have any stake in the company. A partner of mine was talking about today so I thought I would do my own investigation and rip-off report usually brings a lot of laughs with my research. The reason why I find it to be so humorous is because the American public is really ignorant and just plain stupid. Oh and Fat. Case in point, when you do a posting on the internet lets try and have proper grammar and it's really easy to hit spell check. Also I don't understand why we think we know everything about the product that we're belittling. Melissa was with the company for what, 2 months. I just heard she got promoted to french fry engineer at McDonalds. Congrats Melissa!! But lets get back to the case in point, ACN has not done anything wrong but try and solicit their product, and how do you do that; by having agents go out and represent the product. It's the same concept from Mary Kay to Edward Jones to AT&T.

In the end, everyone calm down and let's look at the situation from all angles. Every business is a legal pyramid scheme, the key to being successful is building a productive team below you and only the strong survive unless you work on Wall Street and screw up our whole country. Oh and if I see Melissa on the street I would never spit in her face, I would simply ask her to never post anything on the internet again. So embarrassing, just go and finish high school.

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#11 Consumer Comment

VIVY...VIVY...VIVY...

AUTHOR: Blindboy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, December 28, 2008

Vivy,

You poor misguided, brainwashed puppet.

To define the "recruits" as "Independent Contractors" when the "company" is taking
"... care of all...[the] billing, accounts receivables, accounts payables, customer services, order entry, data entry, cross referencing... workman's comp, insurance, licensing, payroll, Inventory, paperwork, etc." only demonstrates your ignorace of the law.

Providing just one of the above cited services to a "recruit," would be grounds to make the "company" legally liable for the "recruits" actions--including any "promises" he may have made.

Look it up. It's called "Respondeat Superior." It's an agency term which means that the recruit become an agent for these Malefactors and if they're sued, the company is liable for the entire amount.--see "Deep Pockets"

I'm sure in reality you don't know where this money goes and are just regurgitating the party line.

Understand that this scam only works when you recruit "Independents" and I'm sure that is your major selling point--"Be your own Boss!!!

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#10 Consumer Comment

VIVY...VIVY...VIVY...

AUTHOR: Blindboy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, December 28, 2008

Vivy,

You poor misguided, brainwashed puppet.

To define the "recruits" as "Independent Contractors" when the "company" is taking
"... care of all...[the] billing, accounts receivables, accounts payables, customer services, order entry, data entry, cross referencing... workman's comp, insurance, licensing, payroll, Inventory, paperwork, etc." only demonstrates your ignorace of the law.

Providing just one of the above cited services to a "recruit," would be grounds to make the "company" legally liable for the "recruits" actions--including any "promises" he may have made.

Look it up. It's called "Respondeat Superior." It's an agency term which means that the recruit become an agent for these Malefactors and if they're sued, the company is liable for the entire amount.--see "Deep Pockets"

I'm sure in reality you don't know where this money goes and are just regurgitating the party line.

Understand that this scam only works when you recruit "Independents" and I'm sure that is your major selling point--"Be your own Boss!!!

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#9 Consumer Suggestion

Okay, okay, ACN is not a scam! I got that! ACN phone & customer service STINKS!!!

AUTHOR: Pam - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, December 27, 2008

I'm not talking about the company pay structure. I don't care about that. I know the company is MLM and that's fine. I only care about how I was mistreated as a consumer. If you don't get what the goods and services as promised, you should be able to cancel. The 2 year contract should not come to play if you received inferior product. THE PHONE DID NOT WORK PROPERLY IF YOUR MODEM IS NOT A PARTICULAR ONE THAT WORK WITH THEIR PHONE!! The company website does not have a list of modem needed. They only tell you that you'll need internet sevice ant a certain speed. You'll only find out after you sign up and try to make calls. You can't have a conversation because it cuts out every other word. I was on the phone constantly trying to get the phone working properly. I'm a very easy going person and I was more that patient with the customer service.

I received my phone on OCT. 2 and I was not able to use the phone till OCT. 24, due to "Provisioning issue". And everything I heard about the 45 minute wait for a customer service, after talking to them and no outcome is true. After I was some what able to use the phone, it dropped call constantly, freezes and we have to constantly turn the unit off and back on, how annoying. Can't imagine it freezes when we have to dial 911!! May be something tragic has to happen and someone blame it on the phone before the company will recognize the problem.

The company will not let me cancel without a fee of $199,I still cancelled. I don't want to spend more money getting a certain router in order to fix the phone. I think ACN should list modem needed on the site as your ordering or send out the modem that works along with the phone. I think the company counts on you signing up, if you get a great connection GREAT! If not, stick with it for 2 years or will charge you a fee. That's the way they make money!!

I wasn't mad at the REP who signed me up (for the service)he did't anticipated this either. I told him what was going on and what a crappy phone this is. He actually agreed and says that he doesn't even use the phone himself(why he didn't cancel is beyond me). Oh! wait I do know why, he doesn't want to be charge the early disconnection fee. I know he wanted the phone to work for me and to recruit me. I can't be involved with a company with inferior products and services. I'm not close minded at all as I am in a MLM myself. The company must first and foremost care about the customer!!! I just didn't get that.

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#8 Consumer Comment

ACN is for Entrepreneurs

AUTHOR: Pastorpreneur - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, November 25, 2008

ACN and similar companies are for people who understand business ownership and the fact that it costs money to start a business. To think that you can benefit from ACN without attending training and getting a complete understanding of the business and the company is pure foolishness.

There is no way an individual can attend a 45 minute presentation and have all the information necessary to succeed in business. You must be trained. I've been an ACN customer since 1997 beginning with long distance and now I have four video phones, and landline service. NO Problems with the service.

People just love to complain when the reality is that they just couldn't measure up to the standard in which ACN independent reps looks for in a potential business partner.

Whenever I hear someone mention pyramid I immediately know that the person is speaking from a lack of knowledge; in fact they're getting up daily commuting to their job/pyramid, because there is only one ceo at the top at their job and the chance of them getting there is very slim. Anybody can go to the top in ACN!

Wisdom says to always pay attention to all details when entering into an agreement for any type of services. ACN bills just like any other communications company and doesn't hide anything from you. When you don't know something in the future ask questions and it will save you a lot of frustration and will also keep you from making false claims about a great company that has been a blessing to thousands of families.

Multi-billionaire Donald Trump endorses ACN so why should someone listen to you groan and complain simply because of unbelief and lack of attention to detail.

You just blew the opportunity of a lifttime!

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#7 UPDATE Employee

ACN isn't a bad company, sometimes bad people get involved

AUTHOR: Mb - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 07, 2008

It's really sad that I feel compelled to write on behalf of ACN because it wouldn't even be necessary except that all people seem to care to do is find something to complain about.
For everyone who had a bad experience with ACN, sorry, but it was your experience and it's not the same for everyone else. People get involved in this company and expect all of their dreams to come true over night. Just like in life, there are bad people everywhere, including in this company. Under the right leadership, and I can speak from personal experience, ACN is a powerful company. If you were "scammed" or "convinced" or "brainwashed" to join this company, the only person you should be blaming is YOURSELF. I'm sure no one had a gun pointed to their head to give up their $499, which I might add does not make anyone money, it's only once customers are acquired does anyone make bonuses or commissions.
The simple fact is, if you had to be convinced or otherwise led to believe something you really didn't believe in, you had no business associating yourself with it. As with any business, not everyone is cut out for it. It makes me really upset that those individuals who aren't cut out for business make a huge ordeal about it and potentially frighten someone who may have had exactly what it takes to be very successful.
Just within my organization with ACN, I work with some of the most successful, inspiring, honest, and dedicated individuals that would rather you take your $499 somewhere else than deal with trying to "scam" you into the business. If you want a pyramid-scheme, go look somewhere else. ACN wouldn't be documented in various business publications recognizing our company with nothing but positive remarks, nor would Donald Trump put his name behind something that would threaten his reputation if this company was a scam. With that said, anyone who googled ACN to get more information, sorry you had to read through a few people's horror stories. The truth is, this solid company will only grow and prosper more with time and unfortunately will continue to attract people who really have no business being in business.

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#6 Consumer Suggestion

Enlightenment for "Vivy" re; the ACN "Cult".

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 09, 2008

Vivy,

You can try and justify the $499 "start up fee" any way you like.
However, any INTELLIGENT, Non-Cult member can see right through this scam.
You need to back off of the ACN kool-Aid.

All of the things you mentioned that "justify" the $499.00 "start up fee" are automated for the most part.

Think about it.

Every business has all of the expenses you mentioned, but does an EMPLOYER charge you $499.00 to hire you?

No, they don't. That is because the sale of RETAIL PRODUCT and/or SERVICES cover those costs.

You actually proved my point that ACN is a scam with your own "justification".

If the primary business of ACN was the RETAIL SALE OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES, those expenses you mentioned would be covered.

HOWEVER, since the primary focus, and source of income for ACN reps is RECRUITING, those costs are not covered by the RETAIL SALE OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES.

I have done the ACN thing.
Been there, done that.
You can't tell me anything about ACN I don't already know.

You are just another one of those "fake it til' you make it" DRONES.

You are a CULT MEMBER!
Get help NOW!!

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Question for Vivy

AUTHOR: Northwest - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 08, 2008

Would you please name the 3 former attornys general who are on the legal advisory board, and what state(s) they were in, and what the dates of their AG service were?

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Fake it to you make it is the motto....*far from the truth from the origional poster*

AUTHOR: Vivy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 08, 2008

I've worked for ACN for many years helping individuals with their businesses and I can tell you for a fact that ACN is far from a scam. As for the 500 (which is actually $499) Is a one time start up fee that covers all the employees you have at your fingertips and telephone, or you can walk in on. They take care of all your billing, accounts receivables, accounts payables, customer services, order entry, data entry, cross referencing (meaning when a new product or service comes out we let all your customer's know about it), workman's comp, insurance, licensing, payroll, Inventory, paperwork, etc. Things that cost a traditional business thousands of dollars each month.

When you go into business with ACN as an Independent Representative, the company takes care of all these things for you. I tell you, it relieves a huge amount of stress and head aches to have someone else take care of these things for you. Alls you have to focus on is acquiring customers for your business and have the choice to use the leverage system and acquire business partners, the company takes care of the rest for a one time fee of $499. This is very cheap compared to what a traditional business has to pay out each month to have all this done.
Every year within thirty days before or after your anniversary date, you need to renew your license and these service fee for $149. You don't have to go anywhere to have this done. You can do it all by paperwork or by the computer instead of having to go into your local licensing department which is usually at the court house.

As far a pyramid scheme, no it isn't. The American business model is built like a Pyramid! Welcome to Corporate America! Get a piece of paper out. Take any corporation to use as an example. On the top of your paper, draw a circle. This circle represents the Owner or partnership owners, Then write two circles under that (President/ CEO) and the Vice President. Write a few more circles under that and you have corporate management positions.

A few circles under that and you have store managers, a few circles under that and you have store department managers, a few circles under that and you have sales reps. People don't realize that but unless it's a one man show no hired help, no independent representatives, everyone works in a pyramid! With ACN the representatives who have not been there as long as the representatives in the higher positions can make the same amount of money. It's all based on how many customers their organization has acquired. It's not a head hunting game. Simply just recruiting for representatives on it's own, you won't make money. You only make money from building a business with customer acquisitions. Having customers is the key factor with ACN. No customers no money, that is the bottom line. You can make money on your own by just acquiring customers.

But to acquire all the customers from around the world with no way of knowing who they are or how to contact people outside of your state or country, it does make it easier to have people help you acquire customers. If you try and acquire customers everywhere around the world, your life expectancy isn't long enough to reach everyone. When acquiring representatives, gives you leverage to acquire customers in which you could not reach otherwise. This way of business allows you to have a higher income and easier to do.

But again, it's an option not a requirement. If a representative chooses to use the leverage system, it does not take away from anyone else's. Each representative has the decision on if they want to work their business all by themselves, or build an organization of people acquiring customers all together and each person benefiting from each other not taking away. Like I said, it's not mandatory thing, it's an option.

ACN has a huge income opportunity for the average Joe to be able to make as much money as they want. It's not a get rich quick scheme, you have to build the business just like any other business owner and start it from the beginning.

ACN follows all rules and regulations. We have 3 former state attorney generals on our legal advisory committee. They are there to make sure we comply with all the rules and regulations.
ACN representatives are not to fake anything. They're to be honest and helpful to all other representatives and help build people's businesses.

This poster making false accusations of ACN is misleading you from the truth.

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"Fake it til you make it" is the motto!

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, May 29, 2008

First of all, ACN is a scam.

There is absolutely NO REASON for the $500 start up fee, other than recruiting bonuses/compensation.

That is because more emphasis is placed on the recruiting of other agents than on the sale of retail products and/or services.

That is the definition of a pyramid.

The "services" they offer are not marketable to anyone with a shred of common sense.

Therefore, the only real money to be made is in recruiting.

ACN resembles a cult.

Brainwashing 101.

Shop around. There is a program out there that is free to join, and a free website is included and they have a multitude of products and services available that are actually marketable, AND a better commission and residual plan! Win-Win!

I cannot give the name of the competition here as it violates the rules here at ROR.

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#2 UPDATE Employee

Get your Fax streight

AUTHOR: Shaun - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, May 29, 2008

I agree with Nicholas! I've been involved with ACN for years and it's an incredible company to get involved in. You do need to get your fax streight!

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#1 UPDATE Employee

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

AUTHOR: Nicholas San Francisco - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, August 27, 2007

First of all I just want to say those comments are comments of someone with a very closed mind. The reason there is a start up cost just like any other business regardless if it's MLM or not, there is always a startup fee for any business. MLM companies are an affordable way for anyone to own and operate there own enterprise based off of there own efforts. My corporations and filing fee add up to a lot more than $500, I have been a business owner for 9 years and have personally built companies from start to bottom and from my experience everything cost money to make money. I have been investing in Real Estate for the past 4 years now and have personally handled over 40 million dollars in Real Estate transactions & trust me I can back it up.

As far as for ACN is concerned I took a look at the company 9 years ago when they were just marketing Long Distance and have personally have been on the service for 9 years and have been extremely happy. My family has saved a tremendous amount of money on our monthly bills and if anyone doesn't believe me send me your email or fax, I can show you in black and white. 9 years later I recently went to an ACN convention and was more impressed with the growth of the company and its accomplishments since the last time I was exposed to ACN back in February of 1997.

When I took a look at ACN in 1997 they were just marketing long distance and in 1 country. Today they are on a global powerhouse on a mission and they will succeed with or without all of the negative comments. Currently in 19 countries and 3 continents. Some of my personal friends have reached the top of the company in ACN and were able to walk away from significant income. I myself make a very nice significant income but still there is only one person responsible for my income, JUST ME.

You see it's never the company it's the individual and I feel if someone was misled on the Digital product then it was because an ACN representative misrepresented the company. THATS IT.

I have been on the ACN digital service and video technology since May of 2007 and
it has saved me more money than ever before. First of get the facts right ACN doesn't charge 24.99 a month it is 23.99 per month. Second, I have no idea what your talking about these extraordinary extra fees, my bill hasn't been more than 27.68 and that's because of taxes from the government not taxes from ACN.

I have been able to save tremendously on my International calling to Bolivia. I was paying 32 cents a minute with regular land line and now with ACN Digital service my fee is only 12 cents per minute and I didn't even have to pay extra for special international rates like other companies. I even have a free voicemail. Nobody offers free voicemail for normal land line. So get your facts straight.

Whoever introduced you to ACN definately didn't do a good job. I truly feel it isn't about the product, even if you have a quality product it doesn't matter without the right LEADERSHIP. Everyones efforts are different. If you know so much then what is your bright idea. I am always open. But it is nothing like ACN.

ACN is a solid company and yeah everyone is right not everyone will make money but the ones who have the work ethic and desire you can break records in ACN. What's the difference from everyone who buys a gym membership. 80% of individuals who buy a gym membership are still out of shape at the end of the year. There is nothing wrong with the gym, they have all the right equipment, it's the person in front of the mirror. That doesn't mean that all the trainers are going to quit. They opened the door all you had to do was walk through with it.

All businesses recruit, maybe you are just not confident and don't have the posture to become a World Class Entrepreneur. Why else would you spend the time to talk about that you know nothing about. You were just misinformed and you let your emotions take over.

Why else would you try to get people to spit in the faces of people in ACN. That is completely unprofessional. A real entrepreneur would just move on not spend time writing a report about there experience.

GET A LIFE!!!!!!!If someone spits in my face based off a lie I will sue them I trust me I will win. But like I said I just feel you were misrepresented and scamming people people is an unacceptable policy within ACN. If any rep misrepresents any form of the company, they are dealt with.

So for everyone reading this remember "When you buy someones opinion, you buy there lifestyle." I would never damage my reputation in a scam company. Character is everything.

Nicholas FUTURE SVP!!!!!!!!!!!

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