Complaint Review: Adam Lyons PUA Training US Bootcamp
Adam Lyons PUA Training US Bootcamp Attraction Explained Rip off- scam, Internet
*Consumer Comment: I took Adam Lyons Workshop
*Author of original report: Adam Lyons does tell his students to lie
*Consumer Comment: Adam Lyons student experience
*Consumer Comment: RE: adam lyons bootcamp review
Adam Lyons is a self styled dating coach and self promoted number one pick up artist in the world. He demands $1300 for 3 day live training seminar known as a Bootcamp. What the outcomes of these seminars is not known due to the vague marketing fluff that doesnt specify what a student is signing up for.
This is for a good reason. When PUA companies first opened shop they had a whole listed itinerary i.e. pull model beautiful women even if you have no money or are a short fat, bald ugly, 30 plus year old male or gain access to exclusive VIP parties
Of course when these companies failed to deliver on their promises or demonstrate infield due to exaggerations or outright lies- these bold claims were revoked or played down by second generation PUA companies- due to lack of proof or being exposed in the age of Facebook or guys who are part of the growing anti-PUA community. [continued below]....
If you view Adam Lyons US Bootcamp video anyone with sense can see he literally says nothing for 5 minutes. He uses vague talk such as the bootcamp is exactly what you need to get good. Youll have the best coaching to do what it takes..... etc without specifying what the customer will gain from handing over $1300.
Despite Adam Lyons claiming he was voted least likely to gain a girlfriend in school Adam contradicted this in an E-book (released 2008) called Diary of a Pick Up Artist where at age 25 Adam stated in his first PUA forum post. Relationship experience July 2006;
"For the past ten years I have only been single for 9 Months tops. The longest of these relationships were 3 years and most of them were at least a year long".
He even admits in this same E-book he had his first girlfriend at age 15 years old where he gained his first kiss. A very important contradiction for a man who charges big bucks for training by re-writing his past!
In addition to this Adam Lyons was also a well paid Public Relations expert having worked in central London for 10 years in roles for Sky TV, Nike, Pepsi as well as Estate Agency (real estate).
He got into club promotions 2 years prior to re-inventing himself as a geek PUA despite his good looks, height and protective qualities such as a regular high salaried income as well as a work collegue who introduced him to obtaining the VIP guest lists.
Rumour has it Adam was amazed how gullible people were at believing that Mystery (from the book The Game) had any special talents when in fact jumping the ropeat VIP parties, going out with girls from your social circle is something hundreds of thousands or millions of people do world-wide every Saturday night in search of a good time.
Unfortunately if you arent part of a social circle, dont have any friends in this arena or have no experience with real friends or girlfriends its hard or nigh on impossible to do.
This is where pick up artists like Adam Lyons come in and their teachings are laughable. Here is what happens on an Adam Lyons bootcamp.
Men are taught laughable theories that are very basic but drawn out in uninteresting lectures- such as creating attraction without looks, Money etc. Whilst Adam Lyons says Men can attract model looking women without them- he then reckons that Men arent attracted to a females looks either and tries to pervert this theory? I think this is purely to get bootcamp attendees to lower their standards away from chasing model or good looking females. Despite this promise in marketing e-mails.
Another tactic is "breaking rapport at the height of creating comfort" (I used in high school when I was 12) was teasing/flirting with girls using the hot/cold method telling her you love her and then pushing them away. According to Adam he teaches this as it creates massive attraction with grown females. Right.............
Men are taught Nightclub game where they approach random drunk women in Nightclubs and are taught to lie to women with fakes stories because the bootcamp attendees have nothing better to talk about and cannot carry a conversation to save their lives (due to said lack of social circle or girlfriend experience).
Men are taught perhaps the most suspicious aspect of seducing women. They are told to go up to random women in the street and start a random conversation by lying to women. Not only did this not work for any guy on the bootcamp but women would scurry away or just plain ignore the guy trying it on.
The girls who did stay only did so because the guy was seemingly asking for directions to Starbucks coffee or some other seemingly innocent question. Each guy was coached by an approach coach who stood behind me and gave obvious feedback such as- she walked away she wasnt attracted. Or I should push if she tries to get away.
Many of these coaches have very little experience with women and some were self confessed virgins. To make matters worse the Bootcamp was held in a stuffy hotel room and Adam Lyons was nowhere to be seen for most of it.
I read in hindsight that Adam claimed he built his social circle from doing daygame approaches when in fact it was his social circle he had built up as a young urban professional doing Public Relations. To be honest if I could fool guys into handing $1300 per person (with 5-10 people attending I too would quit my PR day job).
Neither me or any other Bootcamp attendee got laid that weekend despite Adams claims of 75% of guys getting laid. However as this is marketing e-mails and NOT advertising these charlatans can make up any claim without fear of prosecution from misleading advertising.
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