Report: #97330

Complaint Review: AdultFriendFinder

  • Submitted: Thu, July 01, 2004
  • Updated: Sat, November 13, 2004
  • Reported By: Tinley Park Illinois
  • AdultFriendFinder
    445 Sherman Ave, Suite C
    Palo Alto, California
    U.S.A.

Show customers why they should trust your business over your competitors...

Adult Friend Finder uses employees to chat and write emails to customers. There are no real women on thier sites and you have no chance of meeting anyone. They do not disclose these deceptive practices and have some 20 or more "customer service" employees that spend all day every day deceiving consumers.

Bob
Tinley Park, Illinois
U.S.A.
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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sorry "Susan", but we can all tell you're a Friend Finder Employee!

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

There mode of operations is this:
1. Engage affiliates to bring them traffic. After a short honeymoon period where everyone makes money, AFF starts to slowly begins to rip them off. The more traffic they send, the more they rip them off. It's all in the tracking systems. I know, I helped write them.

2. When new people sign up, fake profiles run by their customer service department email the guys until they sign up for a paid membership. Then, amateur porn stars promoting their own web sites, prostitutes, and the like are used to make sure you stay on longer and keep recurring (billed monthly).

3. After you request to cancel, a couple of the customer service people may try to "save the sale" and begin emails with you again. This is fairly automated. All Andrew's ideas.

4. Once you do cancel, your email address and all your personal information is sold to the highest bidder, or usually, all the bidders, to use as they may.

5. Profiles are NEVER removed and your email address is constantly used to cross promote Andrew's other sites like Dine.com and GradFinder.com.

6. From time-to-time, Andrew wakes up in the morning and feels that he's not filthy rich enough for that day. At that point he instructs the technology people (of whom he personally supervises) and tells them to do god awful things ranging from billing peoples cards that may have cancelled months ago or send out massive amounts of spam through his spammer friends like Westby (before he was arrested on the first criminal spam charges last month).

7. You may also realize that some people may putt heir profile on good-clean friend finder as a 30 year old single mom looking for a jogging partner and she shows up on Alt.com as a 30 year old mistress looking for a submissive slave with the same picture! Does anyone else see anything wrong with that?!?!

I worked for Friend Finder Inc. for years and am soooo happy to be out of there. I had many morale objections to the operations of their company. Andrew is evil and pompous. He laughs in the face of the legal structure including the state of California, the FTC, and the US Attorneys office and it seems like they cannot do anything to stop this deplorable excuse for a human being.

for more information on andrew, goto www.conru.com
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sorry "Susan", but we can all tell you're a Friend Finder Employee!

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

There mode of operations is this:
1. Engage affiliates to bring them traffic. After a short honeymoon period where everyone makes money, AFF starts to slowly begins to rip them off. The more traffic they send, the more they rip them off. It's all in the tracking systems. I know, I helped write them.

2. When new people sign up, fake profiles run by their customer service department email the guys until they sign up for a paid membership. Then, amateur porn stars promoting their own web sites, prostitutes, and the like are used to make sure you stay on longer and keep recurring (billed monthly).

3. After you request to cancel, a couple of the customer service people may try to "save the sale" and begin emails with you again. This is fairly automated. All Andrew's ideas.

4. Once you do cancel, your email address and all your personal information is sold to the highest bidder, or usually, all the bidders, to use as they may.

5. Profiles are NEVER removed and your email address is constantly used to cross promote Andrew's other sites like Dine.com and GradFinder.com.

6. From time-to-time, Andrew wakes up in the morning and feels that he's not filthy rich enough for that day. At that point he instructs the technology people (of whom he personally supervises) and tells them to do god awful things ranging from billing peoples cards that may have cancelled months ago or send out massive amounts of spam through his spammer friends like Westby (before he was arrested on the first criminal spam charges last month).

7. You may also realize that some people may putt heir profile on good-clean friend finder as a 30 year old single mom looking for a jogging partner and she shows up on Alt.com as a 30 year old mistress looking for a submissive slave with the same picture! Does anyone else see anything wrong with that?!?!

I worked for Friend Finder Inc. for years and am soooo happy to be out of there. I had many morale objections to the operations of their company. Andrew is evil and pompous. He laughs in the face of the legal structure including the state of California, the FTC, and the US Attorneys office and it seems like they cannot do anything to stop this deplorable excuse for a human being.

for more information on andrew, goto www.conru.com
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sorry "Susan", but we can all tell you're a Friend Finder Employee!

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

There mode of operations is this:
1. Engage affiliates to bring them traffic. After a short honeymoon period where everyone makes money, AFF starts to slowly begins to rip them off. The more traffic they send, the more they rip them off. It's all in the tracking systems. I know, I helped write them.

2. When new people sign up, fake profiles run by their customer service department email the guys until they sign up for a paid membership. Then, amateur porn stars promoting their own web sites, prostitutes, and the like are used to make sure you stay on longer and keep recurring (billed monthly).

3. After you request to cancel, a couple of the customer service people may try to "save the sale" and begin emails with you again. This is fairly automated. All Andrew's ideas.

4. Once you do cancel, your email address and all your personal information is sold to the highest bidder, or usually, all the bidders, to use as they may.

5. Profiles are NEVER removed and your email address is constantly used to cross promote Andrew's other sites like Dine.com and GradFinder.com.

6. From time-to-time, Andrew wakes up in the morning and feels that he's not filthy rich enough for that day. At that point he instructs the technology people (of whom he personally supervises) and tells them to do god awful things ranging from billing peoples cards that may have cancelled months ago or send out massive amounts of spam through his spammer friends like Westby (before he was arrested on the first criminal spam charges last month).

7. You may also realize that some people may putt heir profile on good-clean friend finder as a 30 year old single mom looking for a jogging partner and she shows up on Alt.com as a 30 year old mistress looking for a submissive slave with the same picture! Does anyone else see anything wrong with that?!?!

I worked for Friend Finder Inc. for years and am soooo happy to be out of there. I had many morale objections to the operations of their company. Andrew is evil and pompous. He laughs in the face of the legal structure including the state of California, the FTC, and the US Attorneys office and it seems like they cannot do anything to stop this deplorable excuse for a human being.

for more information on andrew, goto www.conru.com
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sorry "Susan", but we can all tell you're a Friend Finder Employee!

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

There mode of operations is this:
1. Engage affiliates to bring them traffic. After a short honeymoon period where everyone makes money, AFF starts to slowly begins to rip them off. The more traffic they send, the more they rip them off. It's all in the tracking systems. I know, I helped write them.

2. When new people sign up, fake profiles run by their customer service department email the guys until they sign up for a paid membership. Then, amateur porn stars promoting their own web sites, prostitutes, and the like are used to make sure you stay on longer and keep recurring (billed monthly).

3. After you request to cancel, a couple of the customer service people may try to "save the sale" and begin emails with you again. This is fairly automated. All Andrew's ideas.

4. Once you do cancel, your email address and all your personal information is sold to the highest bidder, or usually, all the bidders, to use as they may.

5. Profiles are NEVER removed and your email address is constantly used to cross promote Andrew's other sites like Dine.com and GradFinder.com.

6. From time-to-time, Andrew wakes up in the morning and feels that he's not filthy rich enough for that day. At that point he instructs the technology people (of whom he personally supervises) and tells them to do god awful things ranging from billing peoples cards that may have cancelled months ago or send out massive amounts of spam through his spammer friends like Westby (before he was arrested on the first criminal spam charges last month).

7. You may also realize that some people may putt heir profile on good-clean friend finder as a 30 year old single mom looking for a jogging partner and she shows up on Alt.com as a 30 year old mistress looking for a submissive slave with the same picture! Does anyone else see anything wrong with that?!?!

I worked for Friend Finder Inc. for years and am soooo happy to be out of there. I had many morale objections to the operations of their company. Andrew is evil and pompous. He laughs in the face of the legal structure including the state of California, the FTC, and the US Attorneys office and it seems like they cannot do anything to stop this deplorable excuse for a human being.

for more information on andrew, goto www.conru.com
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#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Unfoprtunately, this complaint is accurate

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

Andrew Conru has more than 25 men and women in his "Customer Service" department that pose as women on his site (not just 20). Very very few female profiles are legitimate on any of Friend Finder's sites. Consider the single, good looking, and interesting women you know. How many of them would post photos of themselves spread eagle on a site like AdultFriendFinder and then pay for a gold membership or over 5 years?

The understanding is that this site is merely for entertainment and that people are fulfilling an online fantasy. Let the buyer beware!

I have seen some sites that disclose the fact that this is done - which I think is a much better approach.

Unfortunately, Andrew's criminal empire does many, many, more illegal and immoral things than this. He has been investigated and sued several times before by various government agencies, individuals, and the state of California. Sadly, when your criminal empire is raking in hundred's of millions of dollars a year, paying people off becomes very cheap. I am hoping and waiting for the day when some law enforcement agency, that cannot be paid off, takes a look at this criminal and puts him away or good. I know the IRS would have a field day with this creep.
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#6 Consumer Comment

There are REAL People on AdultFriendFinder

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

Just want to let you all know, there are many real people on AdultFriendFinder. NO, I am not an employee. NO, I am not a BOT trying to advertise on there site (although I have in the past been accused of such). YES, I am a real woman, who was on the site, and contacted by many people (23 in 3 days, if I remember correctly) and even spoke on the phone with some. There ARE real people on this site.
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