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Complaint Review: American Business Systems - KELLER Texas

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AMERICAN BUSINESS SYSTEMS, LLC , ABS MEDICAL BILLING FRANCHISE ABS MEDICAL BILLING WILL COST YOU FEES UP TO $20,000 A YEAR AND MORE KELLER Texas

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*Author of original report: AMERICAN BILLING SYSTEMS PATRICK PHILLIPS

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AMERICAN BUSINESS SYSTEMS, LLC , ABS MEDICAL BILLING FRANCHISE ABS MEDICAL BILLING WILL COST YOU FEES UP TO $20,000 A YEAR AND MORE KELLER Texas

Do your DUE DILIGENCE. be very careful ABOUT ENTERING into any business relationship with them. Before you invest your hard earned $20,000.00 know the real facts. Don't get sucked in just yet. Their website is very alluring, DO NOT FALL FOR INTO THEIR WEB OF LIES. AMERICAN BUSINESS SYSTEM, LLC partnered up with a software vendor MEDRIUM in 2001 who is ALSO a billing service AND will be your competition.

They have Old technology with ZERO INTEGRATED SERVICES. Your competition will have a field day and eat you up alive with this garbage.

www.allbusiness.com Read the article ABS entering into a strategic alliance with MEDRIUM the software vendor in 2001. They were American Billing Systems, Inc back then. BIG WARNING Once they have your money you are at their mercy. They control your full access to their site and the MEDRIUM SITE They hold the key to your life. If you challenge them on any aspect of their business practice as was done a few days ago they will yank your ability to access their site without due process. you will be permanently locked out.

YOU HAVE zero control over your $20,000.00 web franchise. How scary is that! You still want to invest $20,000.00?? Adam philips the son of the owner Patrick Philips is the director of licensing. If He feels remotely threatened he will yank your privileges. HE IS A DANGEROUS PERSON.

How they can do this you ask? I don't have all the answers and details but I certainly found out that they can do it,. As they just did this to a licensee a few days ago. Im guessing you will need to get their contract and head to court!. Further, they have been at this for years now and have amassed quite a bit of money. So know that they will have the ability to pay for a good defense team.

Although if BERNARD MADOFF PULLING THE BIGGEST SCAM IN THE WORLD WAS FINALLY BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. Perhaps ABS fate is next!!! In the meantime you are still going to have to make those monthly payment if you took this money out out on the loan you took to go into business with them. IS THIS SINKING IN YET?

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! Need to be even more convinced?. HIDDEN FEES YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL GET FOR THE INITIAL FRANCHISE COST OF $20,000.00 Marketing training at selling other services because the MEDRIUM SOFTWARE WHICH IS YOUR BACK BONE OF THE BUSINESS has none of it integrated (as in other software) .

The other services like the PPP Patient Payment Plan is an integrated component included into most state of the art medical billing software (check AdvanceMD).INCLUDED AND FREE

Money Quest They make you work these other services because the software lacks them in the first place. Most state of the art other medical billing software have a COLLECTIONS MODULES already integrated as a component. INCLUDED AND FREE (The claim of 18% percent profit using moneyquest collection is extremely exaggerated) In reality you will make very little to nothing . ABS gets a kickback

You will be the luck recipient of Fraudulent Marketing material that is not only antiquated it is filled with inaccurate and misleading information that they encourage you to promote. They are fully aware of this and refuse to do anything about it.

Is this affecting your ethical bounderies yet? Then they will give you la piece de resistance!!! Medrium/ Software FEES w ABS Licensess will pay MEDRIUM/ ABS the following fees: ABS call their fees a rebate . I would rather call it a kickback : $100.00 per month (this is going up in the near future) maybe as much as $200.00 To process 300 claims per month. Then you are charged $1.25 per claim (301 to 500) then you are charged $1.00 per claim (501 on up) PER MONTH

If you use their financial calculator and decide how much you want to make by using the above per claim fee you will discover that you will be paying them in excess of $1000.00 per month and perhaps up to $2000.00 per month to use their virtually obsolete antiquated software system.

What I have concluded:

YOU COULD BE PAYING ABS AND MEDRIUM OVER $20,000 PER YEAR IN FEES ON AVERAGE. If that alone isn't making you RUN FOR YOUR LIFE THE OTHER WAY, AND YOU WANT MORE, ILL GIVE YOU MORE. 'YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" OH YES YOU CAN !!!! So you think I am exaggerating how obsolete and antiquated their software is? Then compare it!!!

Do your own comparison analysis of other software out there. You will be shocked to find the extensive services offered by other web-based MED BILLING and SERVER BASED MED BILLING software vendors They include feature such as EMR and e-eligibility. All are CCHIT compliant and HIPAA compliant systems. BTW these two feature MEDRIUM IS ABOUT to offer from A THIRD PARTY VENDOR. WHY THE MONTHLY fees will go up.

The below are a few of the ones I found and used to do my comparative analysis:

www.advancemd.com www.medipro.com www.emdeon.com (formally known as WebMD) www.Relayhealth.com

Do your research people!!! View the tutorials, multimedia demos, and get a free webbased seminar where you can test the software first hand. CHECK OUT THE DEMO ON THE ABS WEBSITE OF MEDRIUM SOFTWARE . Also check out how MEDRIUM FALSELY CLAIM THEY ARE THE ONLY WEB-BASED SOFTWARE COMPANY OUT THERE. They should be reported to the FCC!))hummmm I think I will do that!

Get MEDRIUM TO GIVE YOU A WEB-SEMINAR ONE ON ONE . They will be more than happy to provide one if you preface that you're a medical billing business and looking for a new software. The software (AS YOU EVALUATE AND COMPARE WILL TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW) IT OLD TECHNOLOGY and doesn't meet the current or future needs of the medical industry it supports. The software has limited capabilities and currently offer a bare bone billing service. Forget their scheduler. Its provides very little and I would not recommend it.

Some ABS current licensees will tell you that the software if the best, why? Because they have not made their (ROI) return on their initial investment. Once you pay that much money you will find out very quickly that it will take you A LONGGGGG LONGGG TIME TO RECOUP YOUR ROI.

For SOME AS long as they can keep their doctors in the dark about the fabulous technology available to them the better off they are. THEY GET PAID!!!. The more you USE MEDRIUM THEM MORE THEY MAKE.

MARYLYN one of their licensees and trainers will say the switch is not worth it to costly. She is on of the few that gets reduced rates using ABS/ MEDRIUM. She ALONG WITH some other ABS licensees ARE technically challenged and know very little or next to nothing about other medical billing SOFTWARE and how they WORKS.

So they can't even give you an intelligent response on the other software. I say this because I have interview her along with two other licenses that put their testimonials on the ABS website . None of them knew anything about the latest technology out there and sugguested I go with that software vendor. I had to introduce it to them!!!

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU ALREADY INVESTED THE $20,000.00 WITH ABS AND FIND THIS OUT??? YOU ARE OUT OF LUCK AND STUCK WITH THEM. GET ON THEIR BOAT AND PADDLE CAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A MOTOR.!

In my opinion if you are going to start a medical billing business then you should have the VERY BEST TOOLS AT YOUR DISPOSAL , THE BEST SOFTWARE in conjuction with other cash-flow solutions. How can you loose with that combination.

Differentiating your Medical Billing Service from others is crucial. A superior oftware makes you indispensable to your clients. Imagine a billing service software system where you wouldn't have to worry about VPNs or wasting precious resources, one where you could access all of your databases at oncea system that would increase productivity and allow you to spend your efforts on building your medical billing service business instead of maintaining it.

ABS AND MEDRIUM DO NOT HAVE THAT WINNING COMBINATION THEY ARE NOT THE WINNING TEAM YOU NEED TO JOIN IF YOU WANT SUCCESS IN THE MEDICAL BILLING INDUSTRY!. I AM ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED! MEDRIUM IS WORKING IN REVERSE AND PLAYING CATCH UP TO THE TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS FAR SURPASSED THEM. THEY ARE BEHIND THE TIMES AND ABS IS STUCK WITH THAT PARTNERSHIP

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO PARTNER UP WITH ???? AT THE TUNE OF $20,000.00???? By now you should have looked at all the multimedia presentation FROM OTHER medical billing software. At this point you should come to the same conclusion yourself. If you are marketing the MEDRIUM medical billing software to get a business relationship with medical practitioners in todays and future market YOUR COMPETITION WILL EAT YOU UP AND LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.

THEY NOT ONLY HAVE MORE SERVICES ALONG WITH THE BILLING COMPONENT, THEY INCLUDE ALL OF THESE SERVICES WITH A FEE THAT IS A FRACTION OF THE PER YEAR FEE THAT ABS WILL CHARGE YOU. LET'S TALK ABOUT ABS AND THEIR DEFINITION OF REAL TIME TECHNOLOGY The technology abs claims as real-time is not so real-time. why?
ABS licenses are only allow to do data entry via medrum system. Medrium does all the processing of the claims with mckesson relay health clearinghouse.

ABS licensee do not have A direct relationship with the clearinghouse . this is only given to Medrium internal billing services. WHAT YOU GET your claims batch uploaded (the oldest technology) by medrium to the clearinghouse at 7 pm everynight. ABS licensee claims are done during the day are held in limbo in the medrium billing system until 7 pm each night

At 7 pm Medrium claims to have an automatic function build in there system that sends ABS claims to McKesson Relay Health Clearinghouse via a BATCH upload AT APPROX 9 am the NEXT DAY(ACCORDING TO MEDRIUM). Mckesson Relay Health send the claim through to Insurance company or back to Medrium at some point in the day if the claim has errors. MEDRIUM THE FOLLOWING DAY Send that claim back to you! This process takes 24-48 HRS TWO DAYS.

(If you are not familiar with the industry TERM Clearinghouse, It defines an establishment that has been given accreditation to process claims directly with THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. ) FACT. ABS AND MEDRIUM ARE NOT CLEARINGHOUSES. The part of their system you are entitled to you is not real time

Note: medrium is an actual medical billing business. they provide outsourcing and is your competition.

The employees working directly for medrium have a full access to additional software capabilities like scanning that you will never get and they have direct access to the clearing housel. YOUR CLAIMS DO NOT..HENCE THE 24-48 HOUR LAG CO-BRANDING NOT PERMITTED all your physicians have access to the medrium website through abs. all of them will see ABS logos and medrium logos. You paid $20,000.00 dollars and YOU WILL GET nothing!!!. they will not take take their logos off the website and replace it with your. YOU should have that franchise right!!!

SO HERES THE FACTS

YOU PAY $20,000 PER YEAR APPROX IN SERVICES YOU PAY $20,000 TO BUY THE FRANCHISE BUT YOU CAN USE YOUR OWN COMPANY NAME???? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE. MARKETING MATERIAL

ABS WILL GIVE YOU MARKETING MATERIAL THAT WAS PRINTED OVER FIVE YEARS AGO AND SOME OLDER THAN THAT. Its useless!!! You will find that most of the material is not even worth using as you will have to alter the fraudulent language that is unethical and shouldn't be used as FACT, i.e. paid in 7 to 21 days. REAL-TIME technology etc.

SUPPORT; Be prepared to be given the run around. Support is limited and frustrating with ABS. They say they will support and help you in every way. I have heard that they will tell you to READ THE HELP FILES. And go get a course on coding. some get more but in the END YOU ARE PAYING THROUGH THE NOSE!!!

MEDICAL CODING NOT REQUIRED; YOU WILL BE REQUIRE to know CODING . ABS will tell you TO OUTSOURCE it if your physician needs help with CODING.

Do you HONESTLY believe a medical practitioner will hand over their billing (the heart of their business over to you ) knowing you know nothing about medical coding? HAVE I GIVEN YOU ENOUGH TO THINK ABOUT? If you need more I can be reached Contact me any time.(((REDACATED FOR SECURITY PURPOSES)))

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The Facts

AUTHOR: Adam P. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 08, 2009

- ABS has never had a registered Licensee by the name, "Linda Ashby", therefore the facts quoted in this, and previous postings may be questionable.

- American Business Systems, LLC is a Texas Limited Liability Company registered with the State of Texas and in complete compliance with all regulatory requirements. Originally the company was American Billing Systems, Inc. The name of the company was changed in 2007 because ABS added several services that are offered by it's Licensees that are not billing services.

- ABS partnered with technology partner, Medrium, in March of 2001 to offer a privately-branded Online Practice Management System. Medrium has been described as the market and technology leader for purely web-based practice management solutions, as quoted in the Dunn & Bradstreet article mentioned at www.allbusiness.com.

- The ABS System utilizes two of the largest clearinghouses in the nation, Emdeon and McKesson, which are both publicly traded, and well known in the industry for providing the highest levels of customer support.

- The ABS System includes real-time patient scheduling, accessible through any computer with an Internet connection, a HIPAA-compliant internal communications system for communicating with your doctors and staff, e-records (scanning and storage of patient documents), extensive online real-time reporting, label and claim printing, continually up-to-date ICD and CPT code database, redundant storage of data on servers located in two different geographical locations, automatic daily backups, accessibility of all patient records and reports via any cell-phone with a browser and Internet connection.

-ABS, along with a number of other technology partners, are constantly researching and developing new features and is dedicated to providing the most complete, constantly evolving online, web-based Practice Management System on the market; including real-time eligibility verification, e-prescriptions, charting, interoperability and all other features of electronic health records as being discussed by the Obama administration. Many of these technology requirements are being developed in conjunction with in accordance with the standards accepted in the healthcare community, many of which will not be in place until the latter part of 2009.

- ABS was the first training and support company in the nation focused on teaching business development and marketing for independent medical billing businesses, as well as offering the nation's first web-based billing system.

- Licensees have 24/7 secure access to the ABS Online Practice Management System and can download the data at any time, thus, are in complete control over their business and data. ABS does not have access to Licensee login information, and thus, is not able to "lock out" anyone from their account.

- The Patient Payment Plan is a proprietary and stand-alone software program that ABS first developed in 1994. Over the years, it has been rewritten, tested and improved and includes a built-in database of over 30,000 federal reserve banks. It is not licensed to or integrated with any other medical billing system and is exclusively licensed to ABS Licensees.

- Licensees incur a monthly fee for utilizing the ABS Online Practice Management System. Fees range depending upon how many new clients a Licensee takes on as well as how many claims are processed. For details, contact ABS.

- All ABS Marketing Materials are available on their website. Marketing materials are updated on an annual or as-needed basis.

- The ABS Online Practice Management System has a proven record of reimbursing clients in an average of 7-21 days.

- The ABS Support Team has an average response time 3.5 hours. Support is available through multiple channels including phone, email, fax, and web based support. A private Licensee website is available for download of agreements, marketing documents, articles, video tutorials, links to valuable resources and other materials 24/7.

For further inquiry, ABS can be reached toll-free at 866-565-8413 or www.ABSystems.com.

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AMERICAN BILLING SYSTEMS PATRICK PHILLIPS

AUTHOR: Linda m ashby - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, May 07, 2009

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