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Complaint Review: American Law Division - unknown Select State/Province

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Ibelieve this to be a cell phone -- 760-383-1867. The call originated from (011)052-7977 which is in India. Voice mail does not state name of company but simply says, 'please call again later' in broken English. These types of calls typically threaten remedies that are not available in the United States such as arrest warrant and prison.

Below is the message from the answering service.

From: Abe Walker
Co: American Law Division
Tel#: (760)383-1867
Re: I would like to discuss a



financial loss. Please call.

(((REDACTED)))****** ACTIVITIES ******

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#14 Consumer Comment

Reply to Steve..

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, January 28, 2011

You asked this in your last response here..

"Did I ever say that it was likely that felony charges would be brought? NO, I did not. I simply made a statement of fact, and a statement of law."

But here is copied and pasted quotes from all the other replies from you here...

Very bad advice from Steph.

Impersonating law enforcement in any way is a FELONY.

Don't do the "FBI" phone answering thing.

Very dangerous advice.

However, if that call was recorded and ever got in front of law enforcement or the courts, you WOULD be screwed for sure.


The party being called is in the UNITED STATES. Therefore the laws of the UNITED STATES govern that call in reference to the responder to that call.

It IS a FELONY to impersonate law enforcement in any way.


So, granted you did not say it was "likely"..but went a step further by stating is IS a felony. Now if you are going to state anyone posting here is committing a felony and use this against anyone..and then state you did not say it was likely felony charges would be brought..then what on Gods green Earth was the point of ANY reply by you at all? In case something "unlikely" happens?

If that is the case I agree and this banter has been a giant waste of time. I do not think it is "likely" that a SCAMMER from India is going to press charges if the person they are calling on the phone says they are the FBI. p***y.

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#13 Consumer Comment

NOT 'afraid" at all, just not my department.

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 27, 2011

Ronny,

I could care less if you impersonate the FBI. WHY would I care? That's on you. And, WHY would you say that I'm scared to reply? Where did you get that? The fact remains that a contributor here advised another contributor to impersonate law enforcement. I simply spoke up and said thatit wasbad advice, which it still is. I still stand by that. After all, it IS the law. Like it or not. Did I ever say that it was likely that felony charges would be brought? NO, I did not. I simply made a statement of fact, and a statement of law.

It's not my department to enforce the law, as I am not in law enforcement. I'm really suprised that you didn't make some connection to First Premier here! You have mental problems that you need to seek professional help for. Do it today.

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#12 Consumer Comment

I am still waiting Steve...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, January 27, 2011

I did it..I openly admitted to impersonating an FBI agent....and yet...here I still sit a free man..I welcome the felony charges but it seems it has not resulted.

Now allow us to take it a step further...I tell some scammer from India on the phone I am an FBI agent and if they call me again I will eat their children and waterboard their grandma. Pretty offensive, wouldn't you agree?

So maybe a better suggestion is to be an intimidated p***y like you Steve?..The irony of this all in retrospect...the BULLY Steve in this case is actually the P***Y a** clown afraid of the telling some scammer from India he is FBI..but yet First Premier got over on him?????? d**k. Coward bully a*s d**k.

WTF????..dude speak up..lets do this!!! PLEASE.. let's do this.

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#11 Consumer Comment

Can...would...d**k...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 26, 2011

Steve, I do not know which or what A** you are pulling this "bottom line" from that a felony charge was involved, mentioned, or even discussed here... But yes..you have stated "bad idea"... no debate there.

I do not understand how you conclude this debate to "splitting hairs" but I can openly state this..You seem to be stating some crock of s**t in some feeble attempt to grasp onto any thread of credibility on this site that you may have, but it is posted by you on this very website that you personally stated as "guaranteed" in this discussion.

I guess in closing I present this to you.."I AM an FBI AGENT"...

There..I said it and admit openly on this forum that I have just impersonated an agent.

I await your next move Steve. Back it up..or back the F**K out.

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#10 Consumer Comment

Ronny, "can" and "would" are 2 very different things.

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 26, 2011

Bottom line is, Ronny G just wants to split hairs here. I NEVER said that felony charges would be likely, did I? I simply stated that giving the "advice" to impersonate law enforcement is a BAD IDEA. And, I still stand by that. There is a big difference between something that can happen versus something that will happen.

The fact remains that impersonating law enforcement, by any means, is a FELONY. This is an absolute fact. And, it was nothing more than that absolute fact that brought my initial post.

Giving advice to anyone to impersonate law enforcement is a bad idea. FACT. Do you have any idea of how many phone conversations are monitored by homeland security and other organizations every day? Do you know how many are recorded for possible future use? More than you think. Guaranteed.

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#9 Consumer Comment

Stop over reacting Steve...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 26, 2011

No one is impersonating anything in a way that would get them in any trouble. It is not like anyone is going around with a fake badge and threatening to arrest anyone.

It is a SCAMMER on the phone. You can tell them ANYTHING you want and will never get into trouble. The key is to get them to leave you alone by a scare tactic if nothing else works.

If anyone calls me from India and threatens me in broken English about arrest warrants and prison and does not even state the name of the company they are calling from on the voice mails...I conclude 100% scam and tell them I am the FBI or whatever I want. Who is going to report or arrest anyone for impersonation due to this? You think the scammers are going to call the FBI and complain about this? Grow a brain.

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#8 Consumer Comment

Ronny, separate issues here. Stop being STUPID!

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 25, 2011

Ronny,

It doesn't matter where the caller is calling from.

The party being called is in the UNITED STATES. Therefore the laws of the UNITED STATES govern that call in reference to the responder to that call.

It IS a FELONY to impersonate law enforcement in any way.

That was my only point, and it was valid.

Stop being an idiot.

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#7 Consumer Comment

Play it safe???

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 25, 2011

Read the report Steve. A call originating from India, a voice mail in "broken English", threats of arrest warrant and prison,..it is a scam. So how can anyone get in trouble for telling a scammer you are the FBI? Is the scammer going to press charges for impersonation of an FBI agent against the victim? Get real.

I would tell these scammers I am the FBI, CIA, heck President Obama for that matter..whatever it took to get them to stop calling me. And yes..it is a GOOD suggestion to let them know your new phone number and give them the number to the FBI which anyone can get as public information via internet search engine or a phone book.

I have never received a phone call like this, but have received emails like this. And once in a while I reply and give them my phone number which... is the FBI. I wish I could see their face when the call is answered "Federal Bureau of Investigation, how may I direct your call?"..again..priceless.

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#6 Consumer Comment

It's just better that way

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 24, 2011

You can say ALMOST anything you want.

You can ASSUME they are not in the United States.

However, if that call was recorded and ever got in front of law enforcement or the courts, you WOULD be screwed for sure.

People do not realize how serious this matter is. Why not just play it safe in that respect?

Do you have ANY idea of how many phone lines and conversations are monitored, and recorded every minute of every day by federal authorities under the "Patriot Act"? You may be suprised.

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#5 Consumer Comment

It can't and won't...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, January 24, 2011

...bring any felony charges...

Steve is just again talking out his a*s..

Not only should you answer the phone in a STERN voice "FBI"....but you should give these scammers your "new" phone number...which you can get by googling FBI in your city/state...example" I am in Los Angeles California so I can google "FBI California" and get these results...

FBI Los Angeles


11000 Wilshire Boulevard


Suite 1700


Los Angeles, CA 90024


Phone: (310) 477-6565


Fax: (310 996-3359

Imagine the look on the scammers face next time they think they are calling you and the actual FBI answers the call?? Priceless..and it WORKS...

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#4 Consumer Comment

check 800notes

AUTHOR: jetames - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, January 24, 2011

800notes.com lists numerous complaints on this phone number



760-383-1867



This whole thing is a complete scam.



Quite apparently, they are spoofing a phone number.




 

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#3 Consumer Comment

good grief

AUTHOR: Stacey - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, January 23, 2011

Tell them you are anything you want - tell them you are David Hasselhoff! That would scare me! These people are not even in this country!! How in the hell can that bring a felony charge??

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#2 Consumer Comment

That "advice" could bring a felony charge.

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, January 23, 2011

Very bad advice from Steph.

Impersonating law enforcement in any wayis a FELONY.

Don't do the "FBI" phone answering thing.

Very dangerous advice.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Do this

AUTHOR: Steph - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, January 23, 2011

If they call again and if you answer the phone say this in robitic voice FBI how may Idirect your call. This might be 1 of those idiots trying to scam you out of money foir a debt you do not owe .

There are times I get this # calling my cell10076400000 and if I do not know the # I do not answer it but I have the option to block a # from calling my cellhone

If they call back and leave a message saying I owe for a payday loan and I don't I would l tell them the FBI is recording this call if I decide to answer that might get thier attention .

There are alotof scammers 1 told me I won some $ a few years back but told me I had to buy $700 worth of pens . I knew this was a scam so I told the call you send me the $7000 you said I won and I wont report you for fraud. This scammer told me I could only use a credit card and I told him I had no credit cards .

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