Report: #1400214

Complaint Review: Atlanta Blue Jays

  • Submitted: Fri, September 15, 2017
  • Updated: Fri, September 15, 2017
  • Reported By: icare — Atlanta Georgia USA
  • Atlanta Blue Jays
    P.O. Box
    Kennesaw, Georgia
    USA

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Ok, I just googled atlanta blue jays to see if this program was still around and whether or not their owner, anthony dye, was still in business and saw this thread. Unfortunately, it appears they both are. 

I'm not a current player but I'm bored, looking for a job, and have the spare time to shed some light on my experience with the atlanta blue jays even though this thread is old. 

Our team was actually one of his very first. As a hitting and fielding instructor (hadn't created the blue jays yet) he was initially all smiles and jokes. Very upstanding guy. When we decided to make him our coach, everything was downhill after that. Despite all the negatives, we still won him one of his first championship titles. But, it seemed that our parents would pay good money for us to tryout and play for his team, only for him to bring in "hotshot" players free of charge and play them over everyone else whenever he wanted. I personally wouldn't care if you brought in hotshot players to start a new season, but bringing people on midseason or for a tournament free of charge is ridiculous (especially when they choke). Of course, that's what east cobb and a lot of other big teams did so it's not too big of a deal. But, a lot of those players he brought in ended up not doing well at all so big help that was. 

He definitely had his favorites as well but that can change in an instant. One slump, one bad outing in a tournament and you're dead to him unless he's invested too much time and money in you. 

Practices became brutal. He wouldn't even show up for those anymore so we weren't getting his "expert" hitting and fielding instruction. It was all in the hands of Steve. But he carried out Anthony's orders well. 5+ hour practices in the middle of summer with record high temps. At one point, and I don't know if this wonderful tradition still carries on, if infielders or outfielders didn't field a ball smoothly in practice it resulted in some form of sprints. You need to be well conditioned to endurea baseball season. But using sprints as a form of punishment for making a physical error is stupid. I could see this type of punishment for lack of hustle, dogging it, or maybe a mental error, but errors happen and running us into the ground won't make us better. When it came time for games, Anthony would show up. His presence was mostly intimidating and less than helpful (and I'm the type of person who says keep your head down, shut up, endure whatever you have to, and get the job done but even I was intimidated). 

Eventually, a lot of our players went separate ways either to east cobb, staying with the jays, or a couple of other teams. But basically, the camaraderie and greatness of that team was destroyed. 

Notable mention goes to one of our tournaments where our players were found to have drank the night before in the hotel room. Anthony took it upon himself to run the kids involved to death the next day after our game. I can't recall exactly what happened since I wasn't at that but I believe one of the kids had a seizure or awful asthma exacerbation or something somewhat serious occur. What did anthony do then? Told us not to tell our parents or talk about this incident ever again. I'm actually surprised that night didn't turn into some sort of law suit bc what he did was incredibly irresponsible and dangerous. I guess his lack of concern for anyone but himself and his authority to run us to death or play someone else over us was the main reason I was intimidated by him. 

That's a short little overview of my experiences playing for the blue jays. His assistant Steve had a little more promise in him but he ended up being a pretty bad coach as well simply by affiliation with Anthony. 

I will say this though. He does have connections and he can help you get places. But at what cost? Do you really want to risk burning out or worse your physical health? You better make sure you stay on his good side or you won't get anymore help from him despite investing thousands of dollars in his so called expertise. 

So to really answer your question, I don't think he's good at coaching, the teams can be competitive, he can expose you to college but so can any other big name team/coach/tournament/showcase, practices were awful and probably made me worse, no I'm not a better player because of him.  

Despite almost burning out playing for him, I did end up playing college ball.

It appears that not much has changed.  Many of us and our parents felt like he was ripping us off (financially) but he continually fed our parents garbage about what only he could do for us and they wanted to believe him.  He is definitley good at conning and lying.  No one really knows much about him or where he really played ball or IF he played ball.  He told us he played for the royals, but they don't have any info on him.  He somehow got himself involved with pro players because he had a few good players that he took and now wants to claim that he made them the players they are today.  They were already players, good players and because they made it to the pros he now says it was because of him.  He obviously doesn't support kids from the local area unless they have money, but gets guys from other states to make him look good.  I guess he only can field one team now and now they say on the website that's a good thing "One Team".  So he gets these guys from other teams or hears about guys that are good from other states who are already getting looked at.  There are so many good programs now that I hope people don't get used and abused by the atlanta blue jays program.  

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#1 Author of original report

Only trying to help others from scam

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It appears you are confused.  Yes, the same author as first post (well same parents).  My lack of quotation marks could have been the source of your confusion.  I apologize.  The first post was quoted with a self-paragraph at end stating that nothing has changed with this program or with the person who runs it.  It wasn't actually from 8 years ago.  It was an answer to a post that started 8 years ago but was only from 3 years ago.   Again, my point was that if I would have known all of this before wasting time and money then we would have made a better decision. Why is it ever okay to steal money from people and then lie over and over again that you are going to pay them back?  Players, parents and coaches are owed huge amounts of money.  It's very easy to confirm that.   I'm definitely not on a "smear campaign" but maybe a campaign of sorts to warn others.  That's the only mission we are on.  A mission of the truth.  There is SO much more that we have found that could be possibly be helpful to others, but we feel that as easy as it is now to get the info, we don't need to share further what we have found unless we are directly asked.  Every county and every court has open records.  The BBB and other organizations are in existence to help us make decisions. 

It's good that you are happy with your decision, but I am actually shocked and appalled that you would have to bring up race!  If he was purple then all of this would still be the same.  His color didn't make him the person he is and didn't make him a dishonest, manipulative individual.  Why even try that avenue?  The funny thing is that we may look just like you on the outside.   The bottom line is that what he has done is wrong.  You choose not to see that and that's fine.  Maybe others will take the warning and won't be in the same boat that we are.  Good day, brother. 

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#2 Consumer Comment

You are kidding

AUTHOR: Saw this exact post from years ago- nice cut and paste - (USA) - (USA)

 Are you the author of the original post? It says you are. For someone who was a player, you seem to be on a mission from the later post. It is apparent that you are just stirring things up. And apparent you are not the same person from original post. Nice try. Good luck in your smear campaign! Is it because he is African American? As an African American father, I am shocked and appalled. We are happy with our decision.

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#3 Author of original report

Read the WHOLE post

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Excuse the lack of parentheses, but if you read the ENTIRE POST, you will see that I'm simply saying that not much has changed since this post from what you say is from 8 years ago.  I too, researched and tried to find out as much as I could not only about the Blue Jays but about Mr. Dye himself.   Eight years hasn't changed him.  He talked around all of the negative information about him and was such a good talker that we believed him.  That was our mistake.  We were ripped off and lied to over and over again.  This man lies about everything!  The sad thing was that many could not see the lies because, like SO many others mentioned, he is very good at that.

 A man who hides but says he has no reason to hide is not someone I want around or teaching my son anything any more.  I totally agree with the person who said he was a good baseball coach, but that's where it stops.  I eventually talked to players personally, not through social media and not anonymously.  I talked to parents and I talked to ex-employees (who by the way is every single coach who ever coached for him except Steve).  They were all misled and lied to.  I wish I would have known all of this before because I feel responsible to making a decision and allowing my son to be manipulated and lied to.

 Mr. Dye wants all of these boys to think he hung the moon.  He is all about himself, nothing else.  Do you really think he cares about getting your son where he should be in baseball?  What's in it for him is what he cares about. You will see. The kids are either being used to "advertise" for a few select players or if they are one of the select players then they are being used for Mr. Dye to gain attention.  Notice the little things.  Ask questions.  He won't like that, but to him it's okay if he can just lie to you about it.  Ask him, for instance, what he does for a living. Then listen to his answer. Why is he out of town so much? His answers will shock you when you know the truth.

I realize his personal life doesn't necessarily have anything to do with him as a coach, but it has a lot to do with whether people want their child with him. Do you want that influence in your son's life? If you do, then it's all good. When I tell you I found out everything I could, believe that. Everything was confirmed, because, like you, I didn't want to just read about it. I wanted to know. So, eventually I did realize that we won't be getting our money back or our time that was wasted. Mr. Dye has used the bankruptcy court FOUR times in the past 2 years. Open records indicate that he did this and it appears that he's just trying to stall and keep people, like me, from getting any money that we are owed.  

None of the bankruptcies have gone through. He's just buying time. He even agreed, verbally, that he was going to give our money back, but then he's unreachable. My case isn't even related to the other two teams where the parents say he took their money and had no, or very little, practicing and playing.  I could go on and on and on about everything we uncovered, but it's unnecessary at this point. Just be careful where you not only put your trust, but where you allow your child to be.  We have an abundance of good coaches in the Atlanta area.  

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#4 Consumer Comment

Nice cut and paste

AUTHOR: Saw this exact post from years ago- nice cut and paste - (USA)

 I saw this like other posts when researching for son and team. But this post is new and seemed familiar. Then I realize what it was. It is same article from other site from like 8 years ago. Seems like someone is trying to keep things going which is sad, because my son is learning so much from the Blue Jays as opposed to other Elite teams in past. Glad I took what was said on other posts with grain of salt.

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