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Attila Molnar, DVM - Double R Veterinary Center - All Animals Medical Center

  • Submitted: Tue, April 07, 2009
  • Updated: Mon, May 05, 2014

  • Reported By:Los Angeles California
Attila Molnar, DVM - Double R Veterinary Center - All Animals Medical Center
23815 Ventura Boulevard Calabasas, California U.S.A.

Attila Molnar, DVM - Double R Veterinary Center - All Animals Medical Center, Veterinarian - Hiding Cause of Death of Companion Animal - Lying Re: Facts Calabasas California

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: If you only knew...

*General Comment: Sound and fury, signifying nothing.

*Consumer Comment: Veterinary Medical Board Citation

*Consumer Comment: Some salient missing facts ...

*Consumer Comment: He, a Hero? What are you?

*Consumer Comment: HERO???? Give me a break.

*Author of original report: Euthanasia for Broken Leg

*Consumer Comment: Attila Molnar A+++++ vet

*Consumer Comment: 10 Years of History with Dr. Molnar

*Consumer Comment: My experience with Dr. Molnar

*Consumer Comment: Rebuttal to complaint against Dr Molnar

*UPDATE Employee: Dr Atilla Molnar is a hero, not a killer

*Author of original report: update

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I took my pet Eclectus parrot to this avian surgeon for a broken leg. My parrot, Gomez, went in on Wednesday with a tibiotarsal fracture, and Attila Molnar allowed him to remain that way until Friday when he performed the surgery. Gomez died the morning after surgery after screaming several times. Dr. Molnar said he was shocked that Gomez died because the surgery he performed on Gomez would be like "if I had performed finger surgery on you and you died."

He offered to do a necropsy and then his entire affect changed. He then blamed the death on me. He said it was because I had fed him organic babyfood (which 3 avian experts said was ridiculous), then he blamed it on me not insisting on a blood test for Gomez. Finally, he claims that Gomez died because I took him out of the hospital against medical advice. This is a complete fantasy and never happened. Additionally, nobody can believe that he told me not to take Gomez home against medical advice and didn't have me sign anything.

My hope in posting this is that somebody else will be spared what this man put my family through. It is also my hope through the website I created that the laws that exist today which essentially give veterinarians free reign to do whatever they want will be modified.

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Julie
Los Angeles, California
U.S.A.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

If you only knew...

AUTHOR: Anonymous - ()

Take it from someone who worked "behind the scenes".  The only thing that surprises me is that more people with dead pets haven't reported this man.  Here is what I witnessed while working with Atilla Molnar:

I saw him try and get blood from a bird that died after it was "hospitalized" in the morning and he refused to examine or treat it all day.  He was quite desperate to make it look like he had done something.

An owner dropped off their rat for humane euthanasia.  He did not humanely euthanize the rat.  Instead, he fed it to one of his snakes.

An owner dropped off their ferret for humane euthanasia.  He tossed, and I mean tossed, the animal into a cage where it sat in it's own urine.  He only euthanized it hours later after the staff demanded he do so.

Birds would sit under anesthesia for up to an hour before he would bother coming in to perform surgery.  The survival rate for his surgical cases was very low.

I saw him placing a hawk under gas anesthesia that was difficult to handle.  The entire time he kept calling her a b***h and started to perform the procedure before she was completely asleep saying, "Let her have some pain before she goes out."

Patients that did get any kind of treatment and care seemed very random as he didn't really perform exams.  He just charged for them, charged for diagnostics and sold meds.  When the patients didn't get better it was always the owner's fault.

After reading some of the rebuttals to this report it was clear to me that anyone claiming this man is anything short of a monster has obviously been solicited to do so on his behalf.  First and foremost, the man is ill.  He has a severe, untreated attention deficit and hyperactivity problem with very little impulse control.  I am not making it up when I say that you could easily find porn around the hospital.  He was mostly preoccupied with convincing his staff that in Europe it was okay for men to commit adultry because the women would not divorce and break up the family.  That is was the women who were the problem.  Funny how this immediately preceeded his affair with a staff member and his divorce.  His inappropriate behavior with female clients was embarassing.  If there was an exotic pet or opportunity for a photo you bet he would be there with his camera to post on his website along with something like "Look at me saving the poor helpless babies"  Little did the public know that was pretty much the only time those patients ever saw him.  There was always an excuse as to why something died and everyone else was always at fault.  I had to laugh at his trying to blame a death on baby food.  I dont' find the situation funny.  Not at all.  Just exactly the kind of thing he did.

He really did take advantage of people who were just not that bright, didn't know any better or just plain had no choice for their pets that no one else would see.  He talks fast, acts eccentric and is one of the very few who will see birds, reptiles and exotic animals.  That was usually enough for people to think he was a hero.  I wish I had better access to his records during the short time I was there.  He would no longer be practicing if I did.

Most vets are not like this but it's up to you to do your research and use good judgement on behalf of your pet.  If you have had a bad experience with him you need to contact the veterinary medical board.  It is the failure of those who haven't that he is still around.

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#2 General Comment

Sound and fury, signifying nothing.

AUTHOR: cb - (United States of America)

Thankfully the state isn't as unhinged as the complainant, and fined Dr Molnar a pittance for not wearing gloves during radiology and other MINOR INFRACTIONS.

What the bird died of is where Julie should focus her considerable energies -- because that happened on her watch and is her responsibility. Please Julie -- no more parrots, ok?

Nothing to see here, move along.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Veterinary Medical Board Citation

AUTHOR: Julie - (United States of America)

Veterinary Medical Board
Citation Order

Licensee: Attila Molnar, DVM
License No.: VET 12958
Citation No.: 2280-C, NV 2009 714

Susan M. Geranen issues this citation in her official capacity as Executive Officer of the Veterinary Medical Board (hereinafter referred to as the Board).

Licensing History

1. The records of the California State Veterinary Medical Board show that on June 3, 1997 the Board issued license number VET 12958 to Attila Molnar (hereinafter referred to as respondent) to practice Veterinary Medicine in California and that said license expires on November 30. 2011

Citation

2. A citation and fine of $500.00 is hereby issued to you in accordance with Business and Professions Code Section 4875.2 and Title 16. California Code of Regulations. Section 2043 for violation(s) as described below. A citation is not a judgment against the licensee and may not he used in another forum. judicial or otherwise, to esiablish cause for damages against the licensee
herein named.

Cause for Citation

On February 18. 2009. client Mrs. Fitzwater brought her 7 month old male Eclectus Parrot, Gomez to respondent Dr. Attila Molnar for evaluation of a fractured left tibiotarsal bone. A partial examination was performed, and 2 radliographs were taken which revealed that Gomez, indeed had a fractured tibiotarsus.

On February 19, 2009. Gomez had surgical repair of the fractured leg, and was injected with a microchip after the surgery. The following day lie was fed 14 ml of feeding formula and was sent home with a calcium supplement and a pain reliever known as Gabapentin. after the owner refused to keep him over night for two to three days due to financial concerns

On February 20. 2009. Gomez died and the owner brought him back to respondent for a necropsy. A notation of hemorrhage within the intestinal tract was noted and bacterial enteritis was suggested.

The Board reviewed the medical records provided by respondent and the following California Code of Regulation violations were noted:

That the medical record does not document the findings from a physical examination within 12 hours of administration of general anesthesia is a violation of Title 16. California Code of Regulations, Section 2032.4-Anesthesia. in conjunction with Business and Professions Code, Section 4883 (o)- Violation of Regulations.

That respondent permitted an individual to hold or support au animal during radiation exposure without the use of protective gloves is a violation of Health and Safety Code, Section 30314 (b) (1)- Veterinary Medicine Radiographic installations of California Code of Regulations, Title I7- Public Health in conjunction with Title 16, California Code of Regulations. section 2030 (f (4)-Minimum Standards and Business and Professions Code, section 4883 (o)-Violations of Regulations.

That the medical record did not document all medications and treatments prescribed and dispensed, including strength, dosage, quantity and frequency is a violation of Title 1 6, California Code of Regulations. Section 2032.3 (a) (12)- Record Keeping. in conjunction with Business and Professions Code.  Section 4883 (0)-Violation of Regulations.

Order of Abatement 

The Veterinary Medical Board orders that you immediately take such measures as are necessary to practice at an acceptable standard of care.

Order

Upon receipt of this citation. you are ordered to pay a civil penalty (find in the amount of $500.00 as provided lbr by Title 16, California Code of Regulation Section 2043, subsection (c), for violation of Title 16. California Code of Regulations.  Section 2032.4-Anesthesia, in conjunction with Business and Professions Code. Section 4883 (o)- Violation of Regulations. Health and Safety Code. section
30314 (b) (1)-Veterinary Medicine Radiographic Installations of California Code of Regulations, Title 17- Public health in conjunction with Title 16, California Code of Regulations, section 2030 (f, (4)- Minimum Standards and Business and Professions Code, section 4883 (o)-Violations of regulations and Title 16, California Code of Regulations, Section 2032.3 (a) (12)- Record Keeping. in conjunction with Business and Professions Code. S ecti on 4883 (o)-Violation of Regulations.

Payment of the civil penalty is due within ten (10) business days after service of the citation. Payment should be made payable to the Veterinary Medical Board. 2005 Evergreen Street, Suite 2250, Sacramento. CA 9581 5. For identification purposes. please indicate the citation and case number on our check. If you wish to contest all or part of this Citation Order. Please con1ete the enclosed Notice of Appeal and return it to the Board office within ten (10) business days after service of the citation.

Citations and fines are issued for minor infractions of the California Veterinary Practice Act. This is not formal discipline and will not be reported as such. Notwithstanding any other provision of lax, where a fine is paid to satisfy an assessment based on the finding of a violation, payment of the fine shall be represented as satisfactory resolution of the matter for purposes of public disclosure. Payment of any fine shall not constitute an admission of the violation charged.

A citation and fine is a public record that remains on the licensing file for a period of five years. After five years, if no further action is taken, the record is cleared and the file destroyed. If formal disciplinary action is instituted during the five year period following the issuance of the citation and fine, the citation document may become a part of the permanent enforcement record.

June 14. 2011

Susan M. Geranen, Executive Officer 
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#4 Consumer Comment

Some salient missing facts ...

AUTHOR: cb - (United States of America)

The "facts" in this complaint change slightly depending on where you read them -- Yelp and several other "opinion" sites, sites managed by this individual, etc.

But the facts don't quite add up.

What we do know is that the woman had an Eclectus with a broken leg, it went to the vet, and subsequently died at home. On the complainant's personal websites some more alarming information is provided as background, which led me to believe the animal received substandard care from the complainant, and that's what caused the breakage (and contributed to the bird's demise).

Ask perfectly reasonable questions about how she cared for her bird and you'll receive such a flood of nasty, snarky personal invective that you'll soon realize the complainant has "issues" that far outweigh her beloved pet's demise. 

The "facts" are clouded by a lot of emotionalism that just gets in the way of the truth, and that's the way she wants it. 

No wonder that none of the complainant's court cases have succeeded.
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#5 Consumer Comment

He, a Hero? What are you?

AUTHOR: Ed - (U.S.A.)

To "Wild Animal Specialist" from VALLEYWILDLIFECARE.ORG :

Were you a witness of the whole incident? How can you be SO sure about the whole truth? I hope all these MANY witnesses in the court room will be "REAL" witnesses.

No one is perfect,and "heroes" are included. Hero can be a hero to some people, and a killer to others. Unless you had witnessed what really happened, learn to voice your opinion like a gentleman. You were not giving an opinion, you were "slandering", "insulting", "trying all you could" to attack a stranger.

Remember, you are not the judge. Without proofs, be civilized. Go read the guidelines about "how to write your report". List the facts, proofs...so you may convince others. Trying to intimidate a "victim" will only lead people to speculate how you or your organization are related to Dr. Molnar. I am sure press in the courtroom would love to meet you and hear your voices on the witness stand.

Ed
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HERO???? Give me a break.

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

To the person who runs Valley Wildlife Care...

Wow! So you've paid Dr. Molnar $430,500 in the past year for leg surgeries alone? Or did you go for the fancy $3,000 surgery each time, which would have cost you close to a million dollars? Amazing!!! Or did he do it for free (or almost free) out of the goodness of his heart? Because the best this "hero" could offer an unemployed woman with an injured pet was $1,500 for the surgery. No, wait, he did offer to kill it for her (from his own vet tech's post on another website "we then gave her the option of euthanasia.") How noble of him. If he's really such a charitable human being, and cares so much about animals, WHY DIDN'T HE OFFER TO DO IT FOR FREE???? Or even AT COST, which could in no way have come close to $1,500. According to Dr. Molnar statements AND the vet tech's statements, the bird died because he had to give substandard care due to the clients financial constraints. Again, if he's such a charitable guy, why wouldn't $1,500 be enough to give the bird the best care possible??? You don't get to have it both ways.

I hope other people reading this will note... not everyone in the Los Angeles bird community was surprised by this. This is NOT the first time something like this has happened, Julie is just the first person to stand up and do something about it. Maybe this is the first time YOU"VE heard about something like this, but it's certainly not the first time I have. Dr. Molnar is NOT the only vet people in Los Angeles rely on, or recommend, not even in the top ten. And while the bird might certainly have died from an existing infection or some unforeseen circumstance and not from a botched surgery, Dr. Molnar's mishandling of the circumstances after the death are what I find ethically reprehensible. He offered to do a "complementary necropsy", then comes up with a LUDICROUS story about how the bird must have died from being fed BABY FOOD. When that doesn't satisfy the client, it becomes her fault because of her "financial constraints" - I would very much like to see the signed releases that ANY qualified vet would have made a client sign when declining pre-op blood-work AND taking the bird home 2 days before he recommended as he and his tech claim. Guess what? They don't exist. What also doesn't exist is the bird's body, because when finding WHATEVER he may have found when he opened the body up, he disposed of the body, rather than hanging on to it so that an objective third party could have formed an opinion. And there's not even any evidence that he did actually opened the body up, as there was no toxicology done, something that a vet who truly wanted to know what happened WOULD HAVE DONE without question. According to Dr. Molnar's "necropsy report" (which consisted of a phone call to the client, NO paperwork) was that the bird had blood in it's intestines (which somehow he interpreted as poisoning from "tainted baby food.") Dr. Molnar's vet claims that the reason the bird was in their office for 24 hours before surgery was done, was that they needed to gavage feed it to get it's strength up. While I don't believe that for a second (with the amount of time that had passed between when the bird broke it's leg and when the bird was dropped off for surgery, there's no way in the world it could have become so lethargic that it needed to be force-fed) IF that actually DID happen, sticking a tube down an injured, but otherwise healthy bird's throat and pouring food into it would be a lot more likely explanation for bloody intestines than "tainted" baby-food. But like I said, I don't believe that they actually did it in the first place, it's just another attempt to lay blame on the client other than Dr. Molnar.

As for your comment that Julie is trying to make a buck off of this tragedy, all she wants is her MONEY BACK and enough to replace the bird. That's it! And personally, I'm shocked and amazed that this wasn't offered to her in the first place! And had Dr. Molnar been upfront about the death and not as evasive and underhanded as he was, I doubt she would even have asked for that. Everyone makes mistakes, it's how you handle and accept them that's a true test of character. This vet fails miserably.

And by the way, what about amputation? I have a bird who suffered a horrible fracture of the leg a few years ago. My vet (also an avian vet in Los Angeles) informed me that the safest option was amputation, which he performed for around $400 - which included all blood-work. My bird was running around the next day and gets around fine at 2 years of age. I believe we did one follow-up visit a couple weeks after the surgery. So why wasn't amputation even an option on the table? It was either $3,000 surgery, $1,500 surgery (which, again, they claim the bird died because she couldn't pay for the $3,000 surgery) or DEATH.

I hope people reading about this incident will let the facts speak for themselves and not let the blind devotion of his fans be their deciding factor in choosing him as a vet. If you've had a good experience with this particular vet, consider yourself lucky.
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#7 Author of original report

Euthanasia for Broken Leg

AUTHOR: Julie - (U.S.A.)

Molnar's vet tech posted on insider pages the following where she admits that they offered euthanasia to me for my 7 month old parrot's broken leg. I appreciate everybody's praise of Dr. Molnar, but the measure of somebody's character isn't when things are going right. I think we get a picture of how Dr. Molnar and his staff act when things don't go right. These are the words of Dr. Molnar's staff. My comments are in brackets and say Julie:

Board post from Darlene Hernandez (Attila Molnar's RVT Technician Supervisor)

By Molnar staff member Darlene Hernandez

I have been a nurse in the veterinary field for 13 years and have personally known and worked with Dr.Molnar for 6 years. I just can not stay quite when people like this come into clinics with their stories and manipulate veterinarians and then when they don't get the result they want they post ridiculous accusation's as below.People should tell the truth!

[Julie:

Speaking of the truth, me vs. Molnar polygraph exam. Any time, any day. My story stays consistent. Theirs changes from day-to-day.]

Molnar Staff Darlene:

"My parrot went in with a broken leg and saw Attila Molnar, DVM."

This client came in and was presented with an estimate for a full workup and surgery to repair his leg. I spoke with her about the cost and she had no money to pay for the care needed. She called her aunt who when informed, by me, of the risk of surgery and the cost of it she said " My niece is no longer to ask me for money if she uses this for a pet bird." . When this was conveyed to the client by her aunt she stated to me in the room " What do I do? what if I get sick and need money from my aunt for my needs."

[Julie:

Huh? I can't even figure out what she's talking about, and who supposedly said what to whom. My aunt and I had discussed before I even walked into Molnar's clinic that she would pay for whatever Gomez needed. We figured a broken leg should be around $1,000. The $3,000 was shocking to her (and they had already put her off by asking her to authorize her credit card before Dr. Molnar EVER LAID EYES ON GOMEZ). Yes, my aunt was upset, however she DID authorize the $3,000. Do they forget that I have the signed authorization with that amount on it AND my aunt's signature? I asked if there could be a reduction in the fee, I didn't say the reduction should be in services that would cause Gomez to die. Asking a relative for $3,000 is a lot of money, and it doesn't mean that I didn't love Gomez because I asked for a reduction because she was upset.]

Molnar staff admitting they thought euthanasia was a good alternative for a 7 month old eclectus with a broken leg:

We then gave her the option of euthanasia or a less expensive procedure that did not guarantee the same results as the original procedure. As this decreased the bill she still declined bloodwork to decrease the bill further.Dr Molnar DID EVERYTHING TO HELP HER WITH HER FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS, so that she would not have to euthanize her bird. She was very appreciative of this and was fully aware of the risk as I was the one who went over it with her and her aunt.

[Julie:

How could this be when she spoke with my aunt outside on the phone (and never spoke of risks, only of cost) and I was in the waiting room. What kind of a compassionate vet offers a seven-month-old Eclectus euthanasia for a broken leg? You would think he was clinging to life when I brought him in. Wouldn't a splint and pain meds have been a better alternative to euthanasia? Darlene didn't go over any risks with me. I told her my aunt was upset about the cost and could we do anything to lower it. She said she would talk to Molnar. Molnar came in, said she told him everything, and slapped a blank piece of paper down on the exam table, and drew a picture of the new surgery Gomez could have. He explained the differences between the two which are laid out in the chart on my chronology.]

Molnar staff Darlene:

"My parrot went in on Wednesday and Dr. Molnar did not do his surgery until Friday".

Birds can not survive surgery with out enough energy. This is why we hospitalize them and gavage feed them food until we feel it is safe.

[Julie:

Apparently they also forget to tell their clients this, or have them sign anything stating that surgery will be delayed for 24 hours to gavage feed. Gomez, aside from his broken leg, was not weak or starving. I also never consented to any gavage feeding which I'm sure was hugely stressful to him. Molnar never said a word about them having to do this.

I was told that Gomez would have surgery the next day, and that I was to pick him up the next day. That afternoon when I called at 2 (which I was instructed to do), Dr. Molnar got on the phone and said that, due to their hectic surgery schedule, that Gomez would have to wait until Friday for his surgery. There was NEVER any mention of him being weak or of him needing to be gavage fed for a day in order to survive surgery. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER. Also, Dr. Molnar said the $150 for Gomez to stay the extra night would be waived due to the fact that it was HIS delay. Why, if this was necessary for Gomez's survival and not his delay, wouldn't he have charged me? If he was so concerned that he waived the $150 because he had to gavage feed Gomez to keep his strength up, why wasn't he concerned enough to waive the nightly fees for Gomez to stay an extra two days in order to survive? He'll foot the bill to get Gomez's strength up for a night, but not the bill for an extra night or two in the hospital to make sure he doesn't leave early and die? If this makes logical sense to anybody, please raise your hand. Polygraph, polygraph, polygraph . . . PLEASE. There's a saying: One of us is lying and I know it isn't me.

This is Gomez the day he broke his leg. He, in no way, looks like he's too weak for surgery or needs to have a tube passed into his stomach for a day until he can have surgery. Something for which they NEVER asked my permission: (can't post links on ROR)]

Molnar staff Darlene:

"I was told to call for a pick up time after his surgery."

She declined further hospitalization due to finances.


[Julie:

This is a complete lie. Where is the release form stating that I was informed that I was taking Gomez home against medical advice? There isn't one because THIS NEVER HAPPENED. ]

Molnar staff Darlene:

"Dr. Molnar was very concerned and surprised said it would be like me dying from finger surgery."

We were all surprised of his death as this surgery is performed by Dr.Molnar on a weekly basis if not more on average. But again this is why we recommend a full work up and hospitalization.


[Julie: How would a complete work up show that I killed Gomez by feeding him organic baby food AFTER surgery? This was the first lie Dr. Molnar made up, but I notice it isn't being said anymore. Additionally, Dr. Molnar never said that not doing blood work could kill Gomez. What about it being HIS responsibility not to do surgery without one? What about him suggesting blood work INSTEAD of a microchip? What about the fact that Gomez had a health guaranty from the pet store where I bought him only 3 months before, and that Dr. Molnar IS THE VET OF THIS PET STORE WHERE I BOUGHT GOMEZ, SO DR. MOLNAR GUARANTEED GOMEZ'S HEALTH. I'm sure Dr. Molnar would never cover for a bird store that had sick birds, right? Dr. Molnar already guaranteed Gomez's health, he just didn't know it was Gomez because he was one of the babies in the pet store. Also, what are the chances that Gomez had anything that would show up in a blood test when he had only been in my house since he came home from the pet store. My African Grey had all of his blood tests and they were negative.

Again, Dr. Molnar is/was the vet for the pet store where I bought Gomez. The pet store guaranteed that he was free from all avian disease. I guess I wasn't supposed to find that out. ]

Molnar staff Darlene: It is funny how someone so financially constrained was able to come up with time and money to send her bird in for a second necropsy and tissue sampling as well as build a website and launch a campaign against Dr. Molnar.


[Julie: Somebody can't read and understand the words "Sample necropsy." Dr. Molnar got rid of Gomez's body after he did his supposed necropsy. The only way we're sure he did a necropsy is because he said so in writing on the letter he sent to me. However, the only report he can produce is 4 pages of unreadable handwriting, which I guess later they can say is really this ever changing fable. I didn't get a necropsy report. I showed a SAMPLE of a REAL necropsy report done at UC Davis which, by the way, would have cost all of $75 had I been able to get one. In order to do this, Dr. Molnar would had to pick up a phone when he saw Gomez's supposedly bloody intestines that were supposedly caused by my feeding him Earth's Best Organic Baby Food. How much clearer can I make it than to put in big letters that I am showing a sample of what a well done necropsy looks like? Does the fact that it's a necropsy for a 2 year old Eclectus hen not give it away? Is Gomez a feminine name? Maybe it should occur to Darlene that I can't do a necropsy on Gomez when Dr. Molnar disposed of Gomez's body, which I brought to them THE DAY HE DIED. What's next, they're going to say I snuck into the bird morgue in the dead of night and stole Gomez's body so I could have one done at UC Davis. These stories are somewhat fascinating, as I can hardly wait to hear what I did next. Next, I'll have held them up at gunpoint in order to take Gomez home early and that's why there's no release form. They just felt so sorry for me that they didn't call the police? I probably shouldn't give them any brilliant ideas.]

Molnar staff: I feel sorry for the position that she has put everyone in who has helped her as well as her own family members that lent her money. In my own personal opinion she is a is a con and is no better then octo-mom mooching off society, then turning around as a victim when she doesn't get the result she wanted. People like her ruin it for the hardworking citizens, with or without a job in today's market, that do need our help in bad times.


[Julie: Good Lord. I've worked as a litigation secretary for over 20 years. I've worked since I was 16 years old. I've raised a 15-year-old with autism by myself, and have taken great care of all of my animals. Just because I need help once with an outrageous vet bill hardly qualifies me as the octo-mom. PLEASE! I'm hardly a drain on society and yeah, I'm completely responsible for the economic crisis. I've never been on welfare a day in my life. Where's my legible autopsy report? Polygraph, polygraph, polygraph. FYI, I'll demand one if I'm taken to court for libel. They can be admissible if both sides agree. I will SO agree to take one.]

Molnar Staff: In my opinion Dr. Molnar is the best exotic animal Veterinarian that I have every worked for and known. He should never and will never be faulted for having a big heart. He is well known in the avian community and continues to help those who need him.

[Julie: That's wonderful. I bet these people have animals who are alive and haven't been lied to over and over and over. You never told me of any risks whatsoever. You ran back and forth out of the hallway between me and my aunt and Dr. Molnar trying to get the money. You never told me of one risk of surgery EVER, NOT ONE. You are a liar. That isn't slander, it's the truth. Dr. Molnar ONLY told me of the risk of Gomez falling and this went for BOTH surgeries. He also said the ankle may not heal as straight. I'm convinced (this is my own opinion), that if I had taken Gomez ANYWHERE else, or even just used a splint, that Gomez would be alive today. Darlene, you are lying about telling me of any risks of Gomez having this other surgery. Maybe, at the very least, you have learned to have people sign informed consent forms. This shows that you HAVE informed them of the risks. The only reason not to have these, in my opinion, is if you don't really want people to know what the risks are.]
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#8 Consumer Comment

Attila Molnar A+++++ vet

AUTHOR: Sheila - (U.S.A.)

I have been a client of Dr Molnar for about 2 years now... He is the vet for my 2 babies a CAG (congo grey) and a Meyers parrot...I trust him (DR Molnar) 100% with the care of my babies. I really appreciate the time he spends with his clients to explain everything to them.. I would trust my life with him because I know that he is going to do everthing he can to perserve life.. I lost a Redbellied parrot about 2 years ago...I know that if I Dr Molnar had treated him he would still be with me...But at the time I didn't know Dr. Molnar. I work in a parrot store and about 70-90% use Dr. Molnar as their vet. That many people can't be wrong... Sheila
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#9 Consumer Comment

10 Years of History with Dr. Molnar

AUTHOR: Rose Director Of Parrots First - (U.S.A.)

I am the director of Parrots First. As an avian rescue we receive parrots in our program that are in need of a variety of surgical interventions. Dr. Molnar has performed many surgeries on our birds over the years. Several of these birds have had to have multiple surgeries to repair broken wings or legs. Dr. Molnar has always discussed all options with us and given us an idea of risks involved.

I have never met a vet with such compassion and thorough care of animals as Dr. Molnar.

Often people do not realize that caring for a parrot can be quite an expense.
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#10 Consumer Comment

My experience with Dr. Molnar

AUTHOR: L. Buesching - (U.S.A.)

I worked as an R.N. for 20 years and I have worked in veterinary offices in the past, not at Double R. I have used Dr. Molnar for the last 3 years for my birds and dog. I have found that Dr. Molnar is the most caring individual that I have ever associated with. He has always taken extra time to teach me the proper way to handle my birds, he has made sure that I understand all of the treatment that my pets were to receive and I have never felt rushed out of the office, I have always been given the time necessary to make sure that I totally understand everything.

Having a medical background, I know that our grief can cause us to place blame, it eases the pain. Even in the best of medical facilities death occurs, we can only ask God why. Having lost a beautiful african grey to disease I know the pain of the loss, and my heart goes out to Gomez's family.
Linda Buesching
President, West Valley Bird Society
Satellite Valley Wildlife Care
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#11 Consumer Comment

Rebuttal to complaint against Dr Molnar

AUTHOR: Remy - (U.S.A.)

I have two eclectus parrots, brother and sister. As the former Head Nurse of a New York City Emergency Room, I feel I know something about good medical care, and, in particular, about whether a doctor is caring.

Over the 8 years of my parrots' lives, I have tried 4 avian vets other than Dr Molnar, and was never truly happy with them. Their fees were outrageous, charging for routine tests that weren't necessary, etc. When I tried Dr. Molnar, I felt I had come "home". You have only to watch him for a few minutes to see the deep level of commitment, caring and medical talent he brings to a difficult arena of veterinary medicine.

I am also aware of the enormous amount of time he dedicates to rescued wildlife, going far beyond the point most vets would have given up on and either euthanized the animal or let it die. He doesn't - Molnar goes the last mile and then some to save his animal patients,- a good portion of the time, not getting paid for either his own services or the hospital staff and supplies required to support their care.

It is always devastating to lose a pet, and each time any animal, human or otherwise, undergoes surgery, there is always risk, in the best of hands - just ask anyone who's done orthopedic surgery on human femurs. No matter how terrific the surgeon, the shadow of blood clots, pulmonary emboli, or bleeding, always hovers. This is a terrific veterinarian, and as unfortunate as the death of Gomez is, it is very wrong to paint this dedicated man with a rip-off brush
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#12 UPDATE Employee

Dr Atilla Molnar is a hero, not a killer

AUTHOR: Wild Animal Specialist - (U.S.A.)

I run a non-profit www.valleywildlifecare.org we are a licensed wildlife rehabilitation group specializing in avian rehabilitation. Our personal Veterinarian is Dr. Atilla Molnar. Dr. Atilla Molnar performed 287 leg surgeries for us in the past 24 months. None of which resulted in fatality. Many of these birds had seriuos compound fractures with infection present among other serious conditions.

Dr. Atilla Molnar is the most experienced, capable, compassionalte Veterinarian in the world, bottom line. We used to use many different Veterianrians, none of whom could perform the miraculous, life saving surgeries Dr. Molnar has.

You will also find that ALL of the bird clubs, parrot rescues, and movie industry animals rely solely on Dr. Molnar and would never take an animal elsewhere.

The woman filing this report refused to pay for blood work pre-operative as she stated "she did not have the money, as her aunt was paying for this birds surgery". She also demanded her bird come home when Dr. Molnar insisted it stay at the hospital post surgery.

Dr. Molnar has been operating on birds for his entire Veterinary carrer. You will find this is the first major complaint he has seen against him.

The woman filing this complaint is broke, and is looking to make money off of her birds death, as to why she is "taking the Dr. to small claims court".

During the court appearence, Dr. Molnar will have an army of witnesses present who will testify on his behalf.

Please do your own research when considering Dr. Molnar, call anyone in CA who specializes in the bird industry, go and meet the Dr. yourself. Call us!

This woman has too much time on her hands.
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#13 Author of original report

update

AUTHOR: Julie - (U.S.A.)

It is also important to add that after Dr. Molnar did the alleged necropsy on my parrot that I physically went to his office and demanded a copy of the report. His staff stonewalled me and said there was a 48-hour turn around policy to produce records. Dr. Molnar spoke with me and said he would have the completed necropsy report to me in the mail that evening. A week later, I faxed a demand letter for the necropsy report and was faxed four pages of completely illegible handwritten pages. When I asked for a transcribed copy of the report I essentially got a "it wasn't the surgery, take my word for it." response.

Dr. Molnar's story has changed from me killing Gomez by feeding him organic baby food to me not insisting on blood tests before surgery. I don't consider, "we can waive blood tests," as any type of admonishment. Additionally, Gomez was only 7 months old and had blood work done prior to him coming home. It wasn't like he hadn't recently had blood work done. Dr. Molnar had me sign no release saying that risks of anesthesia, not doing blood work or anything else had been explained. He also never detailed the risks of infection of the surgery he originally wanted or that a patient of his who had previously had this leg surgery had pulled all of the pins out of his leg and required a second surgery and had to be anesthetized because he got hysterical because of the surgical collar. Documentation of all of these events can be found on my website. Do a Google search for Vets Gone Bad dotcom.

The ONLY think this man and his office wanted to make sure I understood and signed were their payment policies and credit card authorization. What type of vet does a surgery on a bird's leg and then says it was against medical advice? If it's against medical advice, then the surgery should not be performed in the first place. Gomez came in on Wednesday night, and Dr. Molnar said his surgery would be done on Thursday. It wasn't done until Friday and now he's saying I took Gomez home too early and that killed him?

I was told to call the day of surgery at 2 to see if Gomez was ready to come home. I called and was told to come get him. I was shown how to give him medicine and how to flex his toes. I was told to come back in 10 days. How from this am I supposed to know that I'm taking him home too early against medical advice? Who in the world advises against taking an animal home too early after surgery against medical advice and doesn't have the client/owner sign ANYTHING?
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