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Complaint Review: Ben Donley BD Productions Intrigue Designs - Delavan Wisconsin

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  • Ben Donley BD Productions Intrigue Designs 382 Ray Street Delavan, Wisconsin United States of America
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Ben Donley BD Productions Intrigue Designs This guy is SUCH a scam artist - WARNING STAY AWAY Delavan Wisconsin

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I hired Ben Donley in May, 2008 to produce a website with a delivery date of 3 weeks. He took 1/2 up front. 3 months later after numerous emails, nothing until he finally told me he had personal issues preventing him from completing the job on time, so I gave him more time. Issue and issue after issue, gave him more time.

7 months into a 3 week project he finally delivered the 1st phase which was paid for. Then in order to get it released, he required the rest of the payment with the understanding that in 20 days of the payment date the rest of the files which are the guts of the system would be uploaded for testing. NOTHING. Then he stalls. Then he says he needs more time. On and On and On we go again.

The site was supposed to be a pay site on the 1st of December and the credit card portion was supposed to be uploaded in order for that to work. He had some guy in the Phillipines do the programming in MySQL. After I had it checked out by three other people and seeing the website fall apart, they all said how vunerable the site was, the credit card company would not allow us to put any kind of processing portion on the site until it was secure. Just to see if he would lie, I fed him some lies and waited for the expected response and got it.

He never started the second phase, he stated after numerous emails the credit card portion was done however he would not transfer it until we got new servers and wouldn't do so until dec 01, giving us no time to test it, thereby as I am sure everyone else has experienced with this con artist, youhave nowhere else to go but to wait. Then after threatening him he comes back with $1, 000 per day charge if we charge back the amount that was paid...Long story sort, and yes this is the short version, we fired him, which resulted in this email:

"I cant believe what a f**king idiot you are.

I never set up any accounts for you. I TOLD YOU TO SET UP THE ACCOUNTS ... and yes the cc system is finished and working within a dummy paypal account ... you simply change the email address to "your" paypal account and it will work just fine.

Additionally - you still have not set up a new server ... and the way you act, I am not about to send files over for you, or Steven to install - because you will probably install them wrong - not follow directions - and then blame me for the systems failure.

I am not responsible for your decision to choose to ignore the requests I have made to you with regard to the server, and told you Im not doing anything at all until the server issue is rectified. have you done that yet ... NO

You do not understand the system and you do not understand the programming - so why would I just send you files to try and upload on your own and expect to work - on a system that may or may not have the proper applications installed.

Steven sent me a few items, and said he was on a windows platform. I asked if Appache was installed and proper suppoert for php/mysql - and never got a responds - so I am just to assume that you still have a windows platform - and guess what ... php doesnt run on windows unless you have additional applications installed and set properly.

So no ... Im not sending you the files to install yourself. If there is a problem, I will not be able to assist or ensure proper set up unless I am the one who installs them for you.

I do not run scams. The amount I charge people is the quote for the project .. not to duck under some legal policies.

My terms of use and policies change ... yes .. I change them to fit my needs - just as any business does - and within them it says "these policies can change without notice"

Grow the f**k up, get a f**king life and leave me the hell alone you f**king f**ot jerk a** peice of f**king pathetic s**t.

Go ahead ... contact all those people who "claim" to have issues ... they are all low life pieces of s**t too - and guess what ... every thing they have done to "try" and bring me down has failed. And the reason it fails is because I keep records ... I have policies and contracts ... I save correspondence ... and when these organizations contact me and do their "investigation" they dismiss the whole thing because they realize its just a bulls**t claim from a whining little b**ch who cant follow the rules.

Add your name to that list. Another a*****e who cannot read, follow direction, pay attention or even have enough respect to be civil and communicate as a normal human being - but yet Im supposed to bend over and and do whatever you ask me to do because your name is Robert and you believe yourself to be the holiest of all that is holy.

I quit working on craigslist because its full of shithead scumbags like you who think I owe them something. F**k you. I dont owe you s**t - other than a website ... and guess what ... its done.

I delivered your website ... even have a raving testimonial from "you" about how good the website is ... but apparently your too f**king stupid to realize the difference between "my" mistakes and the issues with your server where the actual problem is coming from.

I have told you to get a new server and it will all be fixed. We tested the site over and over and over again, and it was all fine and dandy until it hit your server ... hmmm ... wonder what the problem could be.

Now I have a list of 20+ different things that are still "not done" that you think I need to do. Go f*** yourself. If those items were not finished - why did you release the site to go live? Why say it was finished, make the final payment and write the testimonial if such a long list still needed to be addressed.

Give me a f**king break and grow the f*** up. Your just an ignorant piece of s**t q***r who goes through life being miserable - and choose to pass that misery onto everyone you come in contact with ... well guess what. Im through dealing with you.

You want to write emails like that and be a whining little b**ch - fine ... but you wont write them to me anymore.

If you file a chargeback, you will be in court, and you will be in collections for the amount owed plus fines. Think Im joking ... try it and see, and you will soon find your credit going down the drain.

You have no rights to continue the use of the website, and penalties will be enforced if you continue to use the site without permissions or lawful rights to those files ... if you keep them, and dont pay for them, its called STEALING and will be dealt with accordingly.

Any further emails for communication with you what-so-ever, will be considered harassment - and it too will be dealt with accordingly.

You are not in charge ... you are not a god ... and you really dont count for s**t in this world. Your just an arrogant, ignorant piece of pathetic bullsh*t ... a weed in society who turns into a whining little b**ch every time you dont get your way.

Sorry pal ... but 2nd grade was over a LONG time ago, and we do things differently now. This is the "real" world ... and your working in a business environment ... not your little play room where you can cry when Johnny takes your toy.

Get over yourself and leave me the f**k alone."

Need I say more? I am acting as a witness for anyone who is suing him right now and will act as a witness for anyone who wants to sue him because we have ALL gone through the same issues and I gave him a glowing testimonial and told him how great he was to get him to do the work, and for a short period of time, it worked...

What more can I say about this stellar, wonderful gentleman? If you would like to contact me, email me at quickbooksmadesimple@hotmail.com

Robert Palm Springs, California
U.S.A.

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Rebuttal - Owner - RateURTrick against Ben Donley

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 29, 2008

If anyone has any questions as to his performance, law suits against him, other clients he has done the same thing to, email me anytime at (((Redacted)))

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AUTHOR: Ben - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 04, 2008

I was hired to build a website for this client. The website was design and developed fully, and the "only" issues that arose were a result of server limitations and the number of database connections.

So everyday I got email after email about how this doent work ... or that doesnt work ... long after the site was tested, and approved to be released. They paid the final balance and I set it up on their servers.

Now it doesnt work - after 3 other people - by the client own admission - poked around in the script files.

Additionally, he changed the server passwords so I couldnt get in and fix it if I wanted to.

So I told him ... get a server the supports the system. We will set it up on there and "then" trouble shoot any remaining issues. But Im not doing anything on the current server because as far as I can tell, "that" is what is causing the issues. Not the scripting or programming code.

The email he copied above makes it look like Im the bad guy here, but if you only knew a small % of the crap this guy sent me in emails. F*** this and F*** that every other day ... than the an apology email shortly thereafter and then next day the cycle repeats.

He is never satisfied, nothing is every good enough, and he continues to add further work to the original scope of the project that we agreed upon - and then throws a little fit when I request more money. Any business you can think of will charge you extra for extra products. You cannot hire someone to paint "half" your house ... then then expect them to throw the other half in for free because you decided to do the whole thing. Guess what ... you want the whole house done, great ... but it will cost you more money.

Im not really sure what part of that some people have such a hard time getting their head around.

And currently - even after this guy writes a ripoff report about me, and files for a credit card chargeback to screw me out of the "minimal" amount of money I made for dealing with his crap ... he is "STILL" using the site. It is still live and online at www.rateurtrick.com and it still functions just fine - with the exception of the database connection problems when 50 people or more are on the site at any given time due to server restrictions ... which I instructed him to change and adjust to meet his needs and was ignored.

Take a look at the site. A complete website, built from scratch with the design and programming, database work, etc ... start to finish for users to register, login, pay to become a member (which is finished, but still not installed), and a fully functional admin system to manage the entire site ... and I charged him $1400.00

Then after months and months of "oh by the way, this ... oh by the way, that ... hey, while your in there .. maybe you can add one of these.

Add to it his attitude and mouthy behavior ... then a chargeback on the final balance of $600.00 means that I basically made about $2.00 per hour on this website. Then subtract the amount I paid to my programmer for the work he did, and I am sitting on a negative balance for this particular job.

But "Im" the scam artist. "Im" the one ripping people off. I dont get it. How do you have it figured that working for months on a project and "losing" money is my way of taking advantage of people and trying to rip them off.

If you ask me, its the other way around. you are the rip off. You are the scam artist. Not me.

Also ..... since he like to pull out emails to show how "rude" I am ...... take a look at this email here ... this is an email from "him" - one of many that provoked my "over the line" response back to him. So the Mr. "Im an angel and did nothing at all to deserve to be treated this way" gimmick he is pulling is nonsense. Read on ...


Ben,

you have your head so far up your own f**king a*s you can't even see
straight. You either learn to treat your clients with respect and stop
acting live some 2 year old who didn't get his candy on time and you MIGHT
be tolerable.

Now you have Steven of all people buying into your crap. You think you can
make the rules apply to you whenever you want. Keep thinking that. Steven
was the one who wanted to can your a*s and I decided to keep you.

We have been through this 1000 times, answer a f**king email. How hard is
that? I have told you over and over and over how important this is and you
go on ignoring me. When I finally got you to take a conference call, you
alone wasted man power and time that was resolved with a 5 minute call,
three months worth.

I don't know if you are on drugs, your wife isn't giving you enough or what
kind of mental defect you have. You lied to me from day one and you
continue to lie to me now and I very clearly warned you from the first email
do not f**k with me. Again, your refusal to answer my emails and they keep
coming because you don't respond. You do not get to make the rules here.
You do not own my company. Who exactly do you think you are?

I have every reason to believe, because you have shown me nothing to the
contrary because for whatever reason it didn't suit your needs, that what
new crap you had planned to give me was worthwhile and any changes, and
based onthe crap you have given me so far, and it IS crap, would no way be
ready for 12/01/08.

I asked you a VERY SIMPLE thing. Answer an email. The times you do, you
never address the email, you go off on some other issue and then, to make it
worse, you ask me to reiterate and then YOU CHANGE when we agreed on. And
if that isn't enough, then you come back and blame me for changing my mind.
I have spent the last 10-20 min reviewing every last email to ensure I am
not the one who has lost it and thankfully I am right.

If Steven wants to pay you the $600 and ruin our friendship over that, it's
his call. You have done NOTHING to fix the issues, instead you blame
Stephen or Mario and move on. Is that the new definition for standing by
your web creation? You're a hack and nothing more.

And Steven, how f**king dare you! You want this a*****e to keep $600,
that's your choice. Because Ben says he has it is BULLSHIT. How do I know?
Because the passwords since they implemented the new cc server HAVE CHANGED,
as well as some of the security protocols that did not exist on the old
portal, so assuming Ben is operating on the old portal, it's useless and
unless he emailed me for the new info, it's useless. So glad you are
steadfast in your decision.

Ben would have known that if he answered an email, so good planning there
Steven. So in the process of trying to play mother hen, you just lost $600.
ALL THIS BECAUSE Ben does not know how to hit REPLY.

Permissions, and any other related item to the second launch in which YOU
BOTH were sent emails on early on, NOTHING has been address by Ben because
his majesty can't seem to get enough of the stick out of his a*s to deal
with it. You feel the answer is there are bugs in every new system. This
is SO d**n SIMPLE we can avoid the bugs. The only issue was GD not
informing me or changing the policy of 50 concurrent users. How he
misunderstands that in relation to the 1000 member issue is beyond me but
only goes to further prove my point.

You want to end a 20+ year friendship due to a f**k like Ben? Go ahead.
Ben thinks his busybee lifestyle and our not being able to comprehend the
discipline he has to endure is one of the causes, I have f**king assholes
prowling around in the back of my house, my address published on the f**king
internet now for everyone to see. I f**kING GUARANTEE he trades his life for
mine for ONE f**kING DAY he won't last 1/2 a day. So if you can comprehend
that and make a decision based on that, by all means jump in head first. I
thought you were much smarter than that. Ben is a simple two bit con man
who would pimp out his grandmother to make a cent and then deny her any type
of shelter when she's done turning tricks and then of course, true to form
blame it on grandmama.

So you want it to go this direction, then f*** it and f*** both of you

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