Report: #360157

Complaint Review:

  • Submitted: Wed, August 06, 2008
  • Updated: Thu, September 04, 2008
  • Reported By: Longmont Colorado
    U.S.A. Shill Bidding by Bidz' Client Advertiser Lithuania Nationwide Internet

*Consumer Comment: complainer needs more information

Show customers why they should trust your business over your competitors...

I have just now (8/6/08, 10:10 PM MDT) attempted to bid on a very nice looking amber pendant and a jewelry set on the Lithuania portion of Bidz' site. This is what happened:

I clicked the Bid button. My new bid just barely had time to flash on the screen before it was replaced by another bid. I repeated this three times with each item. Each time my bid was instantly replaced. Each time the following bid was from the same person." And in each case, the shill name was different from the apparently genuine bid that had preceded mine. This all happened so fast that it could not possibly have been a real person bidding, much less two of them at the same time, much less on two of the site's nicer items only. This has never happened with the smaller pieces I have bid on.

And if that isn't bad enough, in each case the site hid the back and forth between me and the shill. It showed only my last "losing" bid and the shill's winning bid. This left a gap of several dollars between the genuine bid preceding mine and my last bid. So... it appears that such a gap in a bidding history is evidence of shilling. BEWARE!

The two auctions in question and the shills' names are as follows:

Auction #29020358, guillenritenour
Auction #29062600, shirleydunn

Judy in Colorado
Longmont, Colorado
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#1 Consumer Comment complainer needs more information

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

What Judy apparently did not take the time to understand about the bidding procedure at is that one can place an autobid. The faced-paced bidding she described,
and ignorantly attributed to shilling is what happens when one or more bidders have instructed the site to automatically bid for them up to a pre-determined amount. Anytime an autobid on file exceeds a live bid, the computer instantly applies it to the
current bid. The process is clearly explained in a prominent location on on the site.
I have purchased more than a dozen items from and have had no unsatisfactory experience, from the bargain price to the quality and to the speed in which it was delivered. I have never paid more than $9.95 for a shipment. I have taken pieces to more than one reputable jeweler and the retail values received, in writing, were always confirmed.
I know others may have had valid complaints, but some of those seem to be based on real situations. Judy apparently jumped on the bandwagon without taking the time to check the validity of her complaint. It makes me wonder how many others have done the same.
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