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Complaint Review: Bill Streeter - Saint Louis Missouri

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Bill Streeter and I made an agreement to produce a documentary film on an event that he hosts. The agreement was for him to handle his event and for me to make the film and we would split the profits 50 50 after I am paid a reasonable amount for my time. The permission to make a film about his event is in a written message, but the terms of our agreement were verbal. I went to work and provided 6 and a half months of fronted labor and equipment costs in collaboration with Bill Streeter, who is IN the movie for 3 formal interviews and throughout the day of the event. Then, after the film is 95% finished with production and editing, he tells me that he is "rescinding" my right to use his footage and likeness and then proceeds to mock me for not getting written releases up front and goes on to say that our agreement was verbal so he didn't consider it a "real agreement" even though he collaborated with me and watched me work mostly full time for 6 and a half months. He also threatens in a written email to "see me in court" if I release the film and to talk to all the musicians in the film, and there are like a lot, and tell them all that I don't have permission to use their footage and tell them not to sign releases with me. I tried offering him a settlement for my time and he refuses to even say anything that isn't completely rude. His last response to me was that he "almost forgot about me" 5 months after he had threatened all these things and "rescinded" the rights that I acted in Reasonable Reliance on with his full cooperation for 6 and a half months.

I complained to the BBB and he responded claiming that the matter does not have anything to do with Hydraulic Pictures so they closed it but I have proof that it does. The only thing Bill did for the film besides offer me advice on who to interview and tell me that he liked the cuts I sent him, was the graphics for the trailer, which he asked me if he could do. He sent me back the trailer and added an extra frame in it that was not there, but he also attached his company name "Hydraulic Pictures" to the the trailer and I can provide proof to anyone that requires it. Also, on the day of the event and the day of the release party where I was filming both days, I was using equipment owned by Hydraulic Studios and I have pictures of both events and me using the equipment. If anyone intends on doing business with Bill Streeter or Hydraulic Pictures, I would suggest bringing an audio recorder and getting everything in writing up front. I have a year of conversation between the two of us that proves everything. He is refusing to resolve the situation with me and even blames me but I never breached our original agreement and I made an amazing film that is nearly complete and that I can never release to recover any of my equipment and labor costs because he threatened to sue me if I released it. I made 100% of the film by myself and this guy telling me the agreement he collaborated with me on for 6 and a half months tells me that he never intended to honor that agreement in the first place. 

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#20 Author of original report

By the Way

AUTHOR: Patrick - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, August 04, 2021

It's called an 'Implied Copyright License' that grants me irrevocable rights to the footage in this film.

Here is that film https://vimeo.com/391403382

Enjoy.

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#19 Author of original report

Im positive i replied to this already

AUTHOR: Patrick - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, September 11, 2019

 It appears my last rebuttal was deleted for some reason. The one where I asked Bill Streeter to provide any proof whatsoever of hostility or anything at all that he had TALKED about. I, on the other hand, provided picture after picture proving what I said. Bill Streeter just uses words with no proof because it does not exist. I live and work in California now.

I'm the CFO and a Producer for a Commercial Production Company on Long Beach. I work on Professional sets and Bill and his crew of non lighting video amateurs aren't worth much more of my time. I tried making a story out of a nothing 1 day event and i was successful. Bill Streeter tried to pull something and fell flat on his face.

He has no knowledge or experience or any common sense even when it comes to contracts, written or verbal like the ones that bind in Missouri. Verbal agreements have a statute of limitations in Missouri. So that means they bind for that amount of time. No, Bill Streeter isn't really wealthy enough to be worth the lawyer fees. His loser attorney Matthew McBride tried to "show me whose boss" and fell even flatter.

You can still hate the whispers when he walks in a court room. All the same, I do think Bill Streeter and his gang of wannabe mobsters that hang out at the Royale are bad guys. Not smart so nothing to worry about. But not good people either way. I dont have anything to hide. I have picture proof and still have the finished film I made single handedly that bill and his whole crew were not good enough to recreate.

Good luck with that 1 day event no one outside of St Louis had ever heard about or would ever care about. LoFi losers for life.

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#18 Author of original report

Patrick has an international award nomination for his first film and Bill continues lying

AUTHOR: Patrick - (United States)

POSTED: Thursday, March 22, 2018

First of all, Bill mentioned that "He had some crazy idea that his film would make him a lot of money but that's just pure speculation on his part. If he needed to be making a living during this period then he should have gotten a job and not be making a documentary that had little chance of ever really making any money." I have been a full time feature length filmmaker since 2013 when I started making America's Blues. Which, by the way, screened 3 times at a Major Film Festival, the largest event held during Black History Month, and then went on to get nominated for an International Award, an African Movie Academy Award for Best Diaspora Documentary. It was also the first film to ever bear the title the Official Documentary of the International Blues Challenge by the Blues Foundation President. Not to mention, the film picked up International Broadcast in multiple territories. It is also licensed in DOZENS of Universities, where they use it to teach the Bues and African American History and Culture. So to say that I wouldn't have made any money off of this Commercial Project is a lie.

 

Now to disect his baseless and quoteless response.  Again, you should note that I have asked him MULTIPLE times to provide one exact scenario where I was rude or "a jerk towards him" prior to him "rescinding" the rights. I asked for a quote and he has not provided one, because that is a STRAIGHT UP LIE. He was being intentionally rude to me. I told him I would appreciate if he droppd his attitude and that I had worked really hard on the film. he just got ruder and ruder with me and then pulled the plug for NO REASON and with NO RIGHT TO DO SO. 

 

  • His claim that I tried to trick him is false. - He told me in a written email that since our agreement was verbal he did not consider it a "real agreement". So this says he never intended to honor it. If he did intend to hohnhor it he would have. He went to great lengths to breach the contract and make sure I could not profit off of my own work. Including having his attorney contact a guy off case net
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  • Suggesting that I stopped the project for no reason is false. - If there was a reason you would have posted proof or a quote or something.  There is nothing in the short coversation we had before you pulled the plug.  You got rude with me because I wsaid I have perfect eyesight and your coloring ws too yellow. Then you blame me. But you are the onoe who tok your toys and went home Bill. that is pretty childish. You NEVER tried working it out with me at all. That is a lie. You threatened to sue me instead. No. There is NO reason. If there is be very specific and say what it is using quotes. 
  • His invoices are fraudulent and attempt to get money out of me—no one hired him to do this, this was his self intitiated project. - My invoices billed Bill Streeter for the hours that his direct actions cost me using his own rate card from his web site. It was not a "self initiated project". It was a Mutual Business Agreement where i was given CONSENT to make a film on him and his event and to use his footage to make it. "Self intiated" means that he was not involved. He was.  Me made an agreement. Whether it was verbal or not doesn't matter. All that meansx is that Bill does not do what he says and will not honor his word so you cannot trust him. WHo cares if it was verbal.  It was an agreement and a Feature Length Film was made that was intended for Commercial Release.
  • Saying I never offered to work it out with him is false (see his own documents where I repeatedly tell him to change his behavior so we can continue) - This is ridiculus. There was no behavior to change. He was the one who took the rights away for nothing and he canot tell me what it was for other than "being a jerk" or "childish behavior".  be specific or you are a liar. What did I say to you that was rude enough for you to cost me a project that took me over 400 hours of my time to make? Expain in detail without blanket statements that liars make when tryingm to cover something up.

 

  • Saying I had him followed is false and a paranoid fantasy (nobody wants to follow him—there is no reason for anyone to do this) I said your frined was in a parking lot BEFORE me.  I didn't say you had me followed. But who cares.  Why are you still talking about this.  To try and pull the focus away from the fact that you have no honor, no ethics and you cost someone labor that you are refusing to be responsible for like a REAL Professional?
  • Saying I hacked his computer is false (again, paranoia why would anyone do this? he’s not that important) - seriously, stick to what you are claiming without proof. I already tod you my evidence was circumstantial and I said what I said about it.  I think your friend Steven is a coward for not responding when I confronted him multiple times about this. And tyou can quote me on that.

 

  • Saying I am a “a scandal waiting to happen.” is false and slanderous. That is my opinion based off this situation and the way you handled it. You cannot tell me my opinion is "false and slanderous" because it se MY opinion. I think you are a scandal waiting to happen if you continue working with politicians and doing business the way you did with me.
  • Saying that we had “some kind of deal,” is false. I gave him verbal permission to film me and my event and I revoked that permission because he acted like a jerk towards me when we gave him some honest feedback on some problems he had with the film. He took it like some personal attack that we had a problem with how he was using our material in his work. This was completely unprofessional and the trigger for the incident. We have a year of collaboration on this project, all in written conversations and a feature length film that you are in so much it would be ridiculous to say that this is just some verbal agreement. The permission is more than verbal and also in video. Bill just doesn't wanbt to own up to his responsibilities but that should be a huge warnign sign to any potential business partner or customer.  There is a Rip Off Report on you for a reason. Your actions cost someone and you refused to handle it like an adult.

I have already proven you a liar.

It is written. 

You lied from the very first Rip Off Report Response and have not provided one single quote or given one scenario that justifies costing someone 6 months worth of labor.  

 

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#17 REBUTTAL Owner of company

List of false claims by Patrick Branson

AUTHOR: Bill - (United States)

POSTED: Thursday, March 22, 2018

Here is a list of false statements made by Patrick Branson:

  • His claim that I tried to trick him is false. 
  • Suggesting that I stopped the project for no reason is false. 
  • His invoices are fraudulent and attempt to get money out of me—no one hired him to do this, this was his self intitiated project. 
  • Saying I never offered to work it out with him is false (see his own documents where I repeatedly tell him to change his behavior so we can continue) 
  • Saying I had him followed is false and a paranoid fantasy (nobody wants to follow him—there is no reason for anyone to do this)
  • Saying I hacked his computer is false (again, paranoia why would anyone do this? he’s not that important)
  • Saying I am a “a scandal waiting to happen.” is false and slanderous.
  • Saying that we had “some kind of deal,” is false. I gave him verbal permission to film me and my event and I revoked that permission because he acted like a jerk towards me when we gave him some honest feedback on some problems he had with the film. He took it like some personal attack that we had a problem with how he was using our material in his work. This was completely unprofessional and the trigger for the incident.

I am sure there are many other things he’s said about me that are false and slanderous. It is what he does. 

If he actually had any legal standing to prove that I’ve wronged him somehow he could have sued me by now. But no, he just makes bizarre, paranoid, and cowardly claims about me on the Internet. Which reflect much worse on him that they do on me. Since everyone who reads his garbage thinks he’s crazy.

He thinks he can walk into someones life, film them, use their material, and then act like an entitled jerk and still continue to enjoy permission to represent them and use their own material in his work? Who would let someone treat them like that? Not me.

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#16 Author of original report

Bill Streeter is the only one that has made PROVEN false statements

AUTHOR: Patrick - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 21, 2018

Like I said, my evidence on Steven Fitzpatrick Smith, owner of The Royale, is only circumstantial.  I could care less who he or his friends follow. He was in that parking lot that night.  I sent his license plates to both a private investigator friend of mine and to a police officer.  So, yeah, you are a liar again. 

But that is beside the point.  I appreciate you finally admitting our agreement was real, but it took you 2 years. Bill Streeter took the rights away for no reason after all the work was done by me alone, and then threatened to sue me if I released my own work

He (doesn't have to? or) cannot prove I became unreasonable about anything. He can't prove he gave me criticism because that is not a part of the relatively short conversation we had before he "rescinded" an agreement, which is a breach of contract. THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING IN WRITING THAT YOU BREACHED OUR AGREEMENT AFTER ALL THE WORK WAS COMPLETED BY ME. He is right, he never signed any document saying I had permission, but he told me in multiple facebook private messages and he announced the movie and showed the trailer with all his footage in it at his own release party so he cannot deny that he gave me consent that is MORE than verbal. I don't imagine I know anything. I spent over 8 years of my life collecting on and settling contract disputes. I have been trained by one of the best commercial collection agencies in the world and I even started my own collection agency when I was 25, built my own software, and then sold it for a profit before going through a rough divorce. Bill likes to pretend he knows anything about me at all.  I know about him because I was making a movie on him, so I was asking about him and researching his life. Bill doesn't know anything about me, other than what he could find on case net with a really unreliable person who can tell you a lot about the real kind of harassment like that involves multiple police reports and an Ex Parte Immediate Order of Protection. 

And just like he cannot provide one single quote that proves or shows that I was unreasonable in any way, he won't be able to point me to the law that says you can "change your mind" and take back an agreement after all the work is complete. 

"He can release his film if he wants, he just can't use anything in it that belongs to me. " This is a joke. The film was never his to tell me I couldn't release it. I made it and since there is no contract otherwise, legally, according to copyright law, I am the owner of the film. We had an agreement but Bill breached it, not me, so the film is mine by law. I did not and would not ever release this film because A. you threatened to sue me if I did. B. you trashed my name in the st louis entertainment scene. In a banned group. That is terribly cowardice. Call that what you want but an attorney that knows ANYTHING will tell you that is MALICIOUS DEFAMATION and you ruined whatever positive press the film could have gotten by lying to everyone after you refused to resolve the situation and got your self a rip-off report written. C. I would NEVER honor someone who would do what Bill and his attorney did to an innocent person.  Me and my wife did nothing to any of you but you cost me 6 months, a feature film, and then your sleazy attorney lies to a judge to try and get money out of me and THAT, after not being able to recover 6 months of fronted labor, is what pushed me into bankruptcy.  All of you should be in jail and with your political connections, you are seriously a scandal waiting to happen. It is kind of funny how terribly you botched this. They will figure it out if they haven't already but that is none of my business. 

"He probably should have considered that before he began to act the way he did towards me. " I asked for one single quote that I made to him that shows me acting in a negative way towards him.  He has not been able to provide one single quote where I was rude to him prior to him taking the rights away from me after all the work was finished.  I did nothing to him at all., My film was HONORING him and the whole crew and street. I was rude to no one and I have nothing but video to prove it. 

Seriously, the work was completed, anyone that does business with you should do it at their own risk knowing that you may change your mind. Period. You made a deal and you did not honor it.  I did until you threatened legal action on me for doing nothing but saying I would honor our agreement.  THAT would be extortion by the way. Like, the real kind, where you aren't lying in a group to save your name.

Let me be clear because I really thought you and your attorney could figure it out by now.  This is business, we had an agreement that YOU breached, and IT IS NOT EXTORTION TO BILL YOU FOR WHAT YOU COST ME. So you telling people I am trying to extort money from you is libel. Straight up a lie and you did it maliciously and you did it in a banned group where I could not respond and you failed to mention the rip-off report or the business agreement we made or that it was your direct actions that cost me 6 months of labor. You are a liar. ANd anyone that does business with you has to watch their back and that is really sad. I feel sorry for all of your business associates that do not drink with you.  By the way, there are MULTIPLE videos and pictures of your attorney drunk as a skunk online.  He might want to pay more attention to the way he presents himself to the public. 

Bill's only response is "Patrick was unreasonable.  Patrick is crazy.  I don't have to (won't) prove anything."

And Bill, No One Slandered You.  This report is 100% true.  Can you disprove one thing I have said? If so.  Please do.  Otherwise, you are a liar and I wish all of your business associates so much better than your dishonesty and 'rescinding" of agreements after the work is complete.  You are exactly what is wrong in business.  NO honor.  NO responsibility for your actions.  And nothing but lies to back it up.  

 

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#15 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Patrick continues to make false statements

AUTHOR: Bill - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 21, 2018

I have no idea what Patrick is talking about. None of my friends have any reason to follow him. I don't think my friend Steve even knows who Patrick is (I mean he does now that he's made this bizzare claim about him) or what he even looks like. And certainly I have no reason to have him followed. In fact I don't want anything to do with Patrick which is why I severed ties with him to begin with. I have no idea what he thinks could be accomplished by hacking his computer and following him, he or his wearabouts have no value to me. In fact, the less I know about him the better. None of this even begins to make any sense at all. But then there is probaby a reason for that.

I don't have to prove anything. I have denied him permission to use my likeness and my intellectual property in his project. I agreed verbally to allow him to do it and I took that permission away later when he became unreasonable. I have never signed any document saying he has permission to use anything in perpatuity or saying I would never revoke my rights. He knows this. He likes to imagine that he knows that the law says I could never revoke permission, but then again he also imagines that I had him followed for no reason too. He can release his film if he wants, he just can't use anything in it that belongs to me. Too bad for him the entire film revolves around me and my work. He probably should have considered that before he began to act the way he did towards me. 

I never defamed or slandered him in the way he has done to me. I warned people about him after he sent me several bogus invoices trying to extort money from me for several thousand dollars. This is something he acutally did. This was his project that he initiated. He had some crazy idea that his film would make him a lot of money but that's just pure speculation on his part. If he needed to be making a living during this period then he should have gotten a job and not be making a documentary that had little chance of ever really making any money. But, if you've read all this by now you probably understand that Patrick has lots of crazy ideas.

I'm sure he'll come back with more pages of rambling nonsense. But again, I wish he would just get some help and leave me alone. I would be perfectly happy if I never heard from him again. He could be doing so many more productive things with his time. But no, he sits around and obsesses about me. I guess I should be flattered that I have played such an important role in his life. But for some reason I'm not.

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The only one confused is Bill about contract law and defamation

AUTHOR: Patrick - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 21, 2018

First of all, "

He has accused me of: 

  • Surveilling him (why would I waste my time or money on such an endeavor)
  • Hacking his computer (why would I do that?) 
  • Being a member of some kind of a criminal organization (again obvious paranoid fantasies)"

I have not published any accusations of a crime organization.  But since you want to bring up surveillance. Steven Fitzpatrick Smith, a close friend of yours and Matthew McBride's, mysteriously wound up in the parking lot of Fortels pizza in Affton right at the same time that this original report was published and being shared on facebook. Steven lives nowhere near Affton and has no reason to be there. I have family that knows him and tells me that he never leaves the city and if he was at FOrtels in Affton, it was intentional. I told no one where I would be. His actions that night made it very clear that he3 was there for you. Period. How did he kno0w where I would be to get there before I arrived?  That is a question for your friend Steven who was confronted both in private and in public and he4 has yet to have the courage to respond. I didn't even publish this matter in the report because my evidence is circumstantial, but since Bill wants to bring it up.  Yes.  Steven Fitzpatrick Smith was in a parking lot before me and I confronted him about it and he couldn't respond.

 

Now for my response

Here is a video of Bill announcing the movie being produced by me and showing the trailer at his release party in May of 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S37Ks1VwG0E.  It sure looks like I had permission to use his "material, likeness or trademarks". Making it bold doesn't change the fact that he breached a contract and had no reason whatsoever.  He claims I was being childish over some changes he requested I make but that is a straight up lie.  He never sent me any notes.  Never requested I make any changes and I have the entire conversation published online to prove how much of a liar he is.  I don't want to drown this report so I will post the proof that is directly relevant.

 

1. Bill asked me if he could do the graphics for the trailer.  I agreed.  I sent me the trailer that he color corrected and I told him it was too yellow.  THAT is what the argument is about.  He also told me in a previously written email that he was color blind. He never gave me any criticism.  Nothing at all specific.l He said something rude. He told me that "John Peckham told him that I trampled on their work" without ever telling me where exactly or what he meant by that.  He just said I used some of my own footage in place of some of their shots in the music videos.  John had come to my house and was one of the only other people who saw the rough cut.  John told me that he loved it and even tried to persuade me to use more of his own footage. There is absolutely NOTHING in any of our WRITTEN conversation that says anything about Bill telling me to change anything. He made up something about me being childish and changing my attitude or he would sue me. But I didn't have an attitude with him. I told him to drop his attitude with me and then he told me he was pulling the plug on a film I made. He had no rights to pull the plug on the film.  He had already given me CONSENT in a written message where we discussed distribution. 

You want to talk about Childish when someone "takes their rights(ball) and goes home" for no reason at all.  I did nothing to him or to anyone on Cherokee. I have video of every interview and every time I was working on this film that can prove I was professional and cordial with EVERYONE!

2. Bill says I have myself to blame.  For what?  Exactly?  Don't just say "childish behavior".  What exactly did I do that warrants you to take an action that directly costs me 6 months of work and a finished commercial product?  Please quote me or post a picture proving what it is that you are justifying screwing me out of my nearly finished product. I will post some pictures. Let's see what you have. 

3. Bill talks about me "screaming at his attorney".  From the very first conversation I had with Matthew McBride, who now has his own Rip Off Report, he was overly harassing to me. You say I screamed at him.  Well here is a phone call where he calls me and I tell him I am trying to resolve this only to have him try and ridicule me and laugh at me until I had to hang up. https://youtu.be/lp8F9iO4fP8

Speaking of attorney's, you really want to bring up your attorney who maliciously sought out Bob Anders through Case Net to come after me and then used Misrepresented Evidence from YOUR CASE to try and get money out of me through sanctions.  You do realize that is a blatant violation of the Missouri Rules of Professional Conduct for Lawyers. If not, now you know. You can't lie to the judges and use evidence form a completely unrelated matter passing it off as relevant to Bob Anders case. 

"Write harassing online reviews about me and people and organizations not even related to me or his situation" - every review I wrote I have video footage of me being there, for this event, so that is a lie.  

"He imagines that I slandered him" it is not imaginary.  It is right there is picture form.  You banned me in a group so I could not respond and then told everyone I was trying to extort money.  Straight up. I am not saying you are slandering me at all.  I posted proof that you published a Maliciously Defamatory statement to try and cover your own name up because you don't want people to know that you cannot be trusted and your word means NOTHING. You try to make me look bad because you look like you don't have a clue what you are doing "rescinding" agreements all by yourself.

"Claimed that I am to blame for his bankruptcy" well, I fronted 6 months of professional labor under the impression that I would have a commercial product to sell to cover my labor costs. You "pulling the plug" on the film you didn't produce one second of and "rescinding" our agreement are actions that directly cost me.  You don't want to be responsible for your actions. Plain and simple.

 

You can call me crazy all you want but you are the one that has zero honor. You made an agreement and have no reason that is not made up to rescind it. If you don't then post proof.  Publish proof of what I said to you that justifies screwing me out of a commercial product I made by myself WITH your permission while I was making it.

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#13 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Patrick is confused

AUTHOR: Bill - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 21, 2018

No one has deceived Patrick.  

No one is trying to cover anything up.  

Bottom line: yes, at one time, before I knew Patrick very well, I agreed to allow him to make a film about my event. But when he behaved childishly about some changes we requested he make, I decided to not allow him to use my property or my likeness in his project unless he changed his behavior and apologized. 

He refused, so my denial of permission to use my material stands. 

This was his project, that he initiated about me and my event. I have no intention of allowing a person that is hostile to me use my material, no sane self respecting person would. 

This is my right and my responsibility.  

Patrick has no rights to use my material, likeness or trademarks without my permission. Ever. 

Patrick only has himself to blame for his own bad behavior that soured our relationship.  

Since then he has imagined some truly, bizzare and amazing things and has decided that he would try to carry out some weird vendetta against me for going on two years now. 

Normal, emotionally stable, people don't do this. 

He has accused me of: 

  • Surveilling him (why would I waste my time or money on such an endeavor)
  • Hacking his computer (why would I do that?)
  • Being a member of some kind of a criminal organization (again obvious paranoid fantasies)

 He has also gone on to:

  • Write harassing online reviews about me and people and organizations not even related to me or his situation--including against people I barely know. (thankfully removed due to his non-understanding of the terms of service and guidelines for such reviews)
  • Call my lawyer and screamed at him, and then reported him to the bar for some hillariously, bizarre reason. 
  • According to messages he sends to other people he is angry at other lawyers who have told him that he has no case (he’s a legal expert that knows the law better than people who actually went to law school, don’t you know)
  • He imagines that I slandered him somehow when all I have to do is nod and say yes when someone asks me who “this crazy Patrick Branson guy is” because as anyone can tell from is writing here and elsewhere that he’s not a stable person.
  • Claimed that I am to blame for his bankruptcy ... not sure how I caused him to declare bankruptcy, but somehow in his mind I did.

Also I’m not trying to hide this, I actually often send people to this report when they ask me what the story is. My rebuttals and Patrick’s own crazy ranting here explain the situation perfectly well. And I think it should be clear to any rational person that I have nothing to hide or be ashamed about.

I am happy to let anyone read this and draw their own conclusions. Many people already have. He doesn't need me to slander him. His own behavior and writing speak for itself.

In fact, by his logic I have grounds to go and do many of the things to him and his business (writing bad reviews and a rip-off report etc.) But I won't, because there is no point in doing that. 

I hope Patrick can get some help and move on with his life. This must be very difficult for his family to have him so fixated on me like this since he clearly spends many hours a day on this issue he imagines with me.

If anyone at all has any questions about this or recieved any messages or threats from Patrick in the future feel free to contact me and I will let you know everything I know that is going on. 

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Malicious Defamation and Malicious Prosecution

AUTHOR: Patrick - (United States)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 20, 2018

This is a long overdue update but new information has come to light. Bill Streeter's friend and attorney, Matthew McBride of Lashly & Baer, https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/lashly-baer/st-louis-missouri-63101/lashly-baer-matthew-mcbride-of-lashly-baer-abused-the-legal-process-to-harass-me-into-1433539 has still not responded to the report that has been published against him. Bill Streeter continues to lie to everyone to cover this up. He has had reviews written on google, yelp and the BBB and has lied to them all to get the reviews removed. He most recent claims that I am "harassing" with reviews and claims that I am unstable in a response he sent to the BBB to get his honest review removed.

No one has harassed Bill Streeter. Bill Streeter, his attorney Matthew McBride, and his new friend Bob Anders harassed me and my family. So much so that my wife had to get an ex parte order of immediate protection against the guy Bill Streeter and his attorney contacted off of Case Net to "share information" and then Matthew picked up his case, changed his amendment to fill it with lies and that very situation and the Misrepresented Evidence his friend/attorney tried using against me is what the Rip Off Report on Lashly & Baer and Matthew McBride is on.

I have a 1st amendment right to publish my honest experiences with Bill Streeter and with every other business that I had a poor experience with due to LoFi Cherokee. Bill calls me unstable but I run a successful Massage Studio with my wife where I deal with customers on a daily basis. Not to mention I am an award winning feature length filmmaker who is currently working on a film about a famous Saint Louis Sculptor. None of those people that I deal with would agree II am "unstable".  It is just Bill lying to try and save his name. 

Speaking of Harassment, after I published this original Rip Off Report, I posted it in the LoFi Saint Louis Facebook group where all the people that were in the hour and a half long film and all the people that saw and cheered for the trailer at the release party were in. Bill banned me from this facebook group and then published a post was still there as of the end of February 2018, that blatantly lies claiming I am trying to extort money. He mentions nothing about the Rip Off Report or the business agreement that he intentionally violated. Only that "we had an impass" and that I am trying to extort money. He doesn't mention that he was only billed for the hours that his direct actions of "rescinding" an agreement cost. I should note that this group is filled with over 300 people and it is filled with musicians, business owners and other entertainment professionals.  I am an entertainment professional who made an honest agreement and FULFILLED that agreement only to get stabbed in the back by Bill Streeter, his friends, and his attorney. That movie honored this guy and now he is calling me "unstable" because he doesn't want people to know the truth.

And by the way, this guy who has an attorney advising him, says that he "rescinds" an agreement after all the work is complete.  ONly TWO parties can RESCIND an agreement. When one party does it against the other's will it is called a BREACH. So not only did I have half a year of professional labor wasted by this guy, but because he wouldn't resolve it and expected me to just go away when his actions cost me and I did nothing to anyone and can prove that with video footage and email conversations. So then when I stand up for myself and write a Rip Off Report, he not only trashes my name within the Saint Louis area in the industry I work in, but he sticks some shady attorney on me who Misrepresents evide3nce to try and get money out of me through sanctions. Bill Streeter cost me so Bill Streeter owes me and his attorney and the law firm of Lashly & Baer should all be investigated for deceptive practices. 

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Hours Logged

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POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2016

Look at all the work that I put into this to make a nearly finished feature film. No issues were addressed with me and no rights were "rescinded" until the first part of June. I was finished with the Rough cut by May 18th and he had already said he liked it. 

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Verbal Agreements

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POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2016

If you look up Cotner Productions, Inc. v. Snadon (“Cotner”), you'll find that a verbal agreement is enforceable in the state of Missouri even if terms were not discussed as in that case.

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Reliance Damages

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POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2016

I don't claim anything. I had final cut according to copyright law because I am the content creator for "LoFi Cherokee: The Movie". It appears Bill Streeter waited until the work was complete to try and gain control. He never had a conflict while I was making the film except for that one time when I told him he needed to tell me then if he wanted me to walk away. By the time the argument took place the final cut had been complete and he had already said he liked it in a written message.

Therefore, I sent Mr Streeter an invoice for the full amount of labor, for the Pre-Production, Production, Directing and Editing labor that I fronted for the project because of his breach of our agreement when he "rescinded" my rights after the work was complete and after he told me that he never considered our agreement a "real agreement". The only agreement in question is the right to use the footage. That is the promise that I acted in Reasonable Reliance on and that is what I sent the invoice for the full damages on.

I should add that the rates I used in the invoice, which included a detailed breakdown that I can verify with digital time stamps, were pulled DIRECTLY FROM HYDRAULIC STUDIOS WEBSITE. They were his rates. We were equal partners financially in the project after I was su[pposd to be paid a reasonable amount for the work I did. The labor I performed was NEVER INTENDED TO BE FREE and my compensation for that labor and equipment expenses is Reliant on the agreement that Bill Streeter "rescinded".

If Bill Streeter wants me to leave him alone then he needs to pay me for the damages he cost. 

 

I'd like to note against that Bill Streeter Has still not responded to the FACT that he said he didn't consider our agreement a real agreement after he had watched me work and collaborated with me for 6 and a half months based on that REAL AGREEMENT.

 

I am STILL waiting on an attorney to contact me. If he wanted me to stop posting truthful statements about him, he should have his attorney contact me as I requested in writing numerous times.

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Doesn't make any sense

AUTHOR: billstreeter - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2016

I think a reasonable person can see what is going on here. 

I just want to make a couple of final points on this and I'm done responding to this. 

I don't understand how a person can claim to have complete creative control over a project and then demand compesation for his own project. 

I hope anyone who happens to read this understands is that what Patrick wants is for me to pay him $51,000.00

And all I want is for him to leave me alone. 

You be the judge on who is the reasonable party here. 

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Photos and FInal Cut

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POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2016

Here are photos that were all taken from Cameras that were being used by my wife. One was owned by Hydraulic Pictures. The other camera was owned by me. There are literally thousands of pictures I could post if I sat through the 16 hour day.

 

Now in regards to Bill Streeter's misunderstanding of Copyright Law. First, as I mentioned, there was NEVER discussion of who had final cut. Our agreement was that I make the movie and he does the event and we keep them separate and we split the profits 50 50 after I am paid a reasonable amount for the Professional Services I provided to complete the film. 

Secondly, as Mr Streeter fails to understand is that without an Agreement outlining or proving otherwise, Final Cut belongs to the CONTENT CREATOR.  

A professional dealing with Copyrighted Material should know that.

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Photos

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POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2016

I have asked Rip Off Report to take down the photo that I was asked to take down by the owner. I have plenty of others. My wife was working full-time day of the event filming and taking pictures. I will go through the enormous amount of evidence and footage I have and find some more that I own the rights to.

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Photos

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POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2016

If the owner of these photos contacts me to take them down, I will comply. The owner has not asked me to take them down. Bill Streeter does not own these images and they are an integral part of this case, proving that I was filming Bill Streeter at his Event and proving I was using equipment owned by Hydraulic Studios. 

You'll also notice that he has not responded to anything else, most notably how he told me an agreement he worked with me on for 6 and a half months was not real after I completed the work. Now he is trying to defame my character and scare me with copyright's that don't even belong to him.

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Photos used on this report are not authorized

AUTHOR: billstreeter - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2016

I should also point out that the photos used with Patrick's original report here are not authorized for use here. The are the intelectual property of other people and he doesn't have the rights to publish them anywhere. 

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And Furthermore

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POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2016

The statement that Bill Streeter made about doing a background check on me is purely written to attempt to defame my character because I am writing truthful statements online about him. My background or reputation never once came into question and I never did one single thing to warrant that response. I have no shame, though, so I have no problem posting my background. A decade ago I got clean from having a 3-year drug addiction problem. I pulled myself out of the gutter, put myself through college, graduated and made my first feature length film, America's Blues, which went on to win 5 festival awards, was nominated for an African Moie Academy Award, picked up Broadcast distribution in 3 territories so far and is being taught in over 20 Universities. I never told Mr Streeter anything about this and there is absolutely no information about it anywhere online so I am not sure how my "background" should ever have been mentioned in an online posting that has absolutely nothing to do with it. But I have no problem with people knowing that I am was able to overcome severe drug addiction. My 2nd film in production (that was halted to work on this film) is about alcohol abuse. 

I'd also like to mention that the argument that he "rescinded" my rights off of had nothing to do with the actual movie. It was the color of the trailer that he was not supposed to color correct. He told me in a written email that he was "partially color blind" so I would never have agreed to let him color correct. But regardless, that was the trailer and he never gave me any notes about the film at all other than telling me what one person told him that that person claimed they only said part of.

 

Here are the REAL facts of the case that actually matter. Whether I approached him or not is irrelevant to the agreement that was acted in reliance on.

Bill Streeter cannot deny that we made an agreement. 

Bill Streeter cannot deny that I acted in Reliance of that agreement.

Bill Streeter cannot deny that my Compensation for the work I did was ultimately reliant on our agreement

Bill Streeter cannot deny that he "rescinded" the agreement AFTER the majority of work was done.

And Bill Streeter cannot deny that he said our agreement was "verbal and somewhat nebulous so he doesn't consider it a 'real agreement'"

 

Anyone that would say there was no real agreement after the work is complete cannot be trusted, especially when that person collaborated with me the entire time.

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Bill Streeter's Reply contains FALSE information

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POSTED: Thursday, December 08, 2016

Mr Streeter wrote a False Statement in his rebuttal stating that he had final cut approval. That was never a part of our agreement and I have NUMEROUS written quotes from him that verify he "didn't want to co-direct this thing with you" and "I'm not trying to make the film for you" and "like I said, I'm not trying to make the film for you." Never once was final cut even discussed other than that he was to do his event and I was to make the film, and he even CONFIRMED that final cut was not discussed in another written email.

At this point, anything that he says is simply trying to cover up the fact that he unethically rescinded rights that I Acted in Reasonable Reliance on when I changed my position to front 6 and a half months of labor and equipment expenses. He was even told IN WRITING when the film was 18 minutes finished when I felt that he was being too pushy, that I do things my way and if he wanted me to walk away he needed to tell me right then. He told me "You are doing a great job with this I am very happy with your progress so far". He NEVER ONCE tried to resolve this with me.

He only made legal threats if I released the film and also made threats to speak to all the musicians in the film and tell them not to sign releases with me. I responded to him numerous times over 5 months and he basically laughs in my face. Action IS being taken against Mr Streeter and against Hydraulic Pictures. I don't care what he does for other people, he did a terrible and unethical thing to me and it cost me and my family dearly. I have asked Mr Streeter to have an attorney contact me numerous times and he refuses to deal with me or this situation at all so my only choice is to take action.

I'd also like to add that he DID say in numerous emails that we had no agreement and that he did not consider our agreement a "real agreement". He can not get on here and deny that he said that. And if he is admitting that we had an agreement, how can he say that he is not responsible for the labor that his breach of our agreement cost me? You can't wait until the work is nearly finished to try and back out on an agreement. But I do appreciate him finally admitting we had an agreement in his online rebuttal. An Agreement that it is very clear I acted, with his full cooperation, in Reasonable Reliance on. 

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This is very sad

AUTHOR: Bill Streeter - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, December 08, 2016

Patrick has some of his facts straight. But the only facts that matter are that he approached me to make a film about me and my event. I thought it could be cool. I made the mistake of not getting any refferences or do any background on him before I agreed. We did have a verbal agreement (I have never denied that) however we disagree on exactly what it was. He claims that we were equal partners on the project when it suits him and other times he tries to claim that I should have no input into the film. But basically what happened is that he threw a bit of a fit when he got some very reasonable feedback that he didn't like on a cut of the film--even though part of our verbal agreement was that I would get final-cut approval on the film. He may deny this, but that's the way I remember our agreement. And if you think about it, as a filmmaker myself, why would I not want to have the right to review a film that is being made about me and my event by someone who was basically a perfect stranger before he approached me about it? 

It boils down to this: he wanted to make this film. He proceeded to make the film with NO written agreements, and NO releases. And when he got reasonable notes and feedback on the film he got mad and began to act very immaturely. I told him that he needed to appologize for this behavior and we could talk about finishing the film. He refused. I decided that dealing with him wasn't worth the trouble so I told him that he could no longer use my likeness or intellectual property for the project (the film was about me and my intellectual property). 

I honestly don't understand why he thought that getting mad and fighting with someone who was the main character and owner of the subject of his film would gain him anything. I tried to reason with him and work it out but he refused. At some point you just can't waste a lot of time dealing with unreasonable people. So I just stopped. 

Now he is harrassing me by trying to besmerch my reputation and my business reputation with things like this, as well as sending me bogus invoices for $51,000.00 for work I never asked him to do on a project that he initiated. He has also threatened to sue me but that has never transpired probably because I'm guessing that no lawyer would ever take his case. 

Bottom line: I tried to work it out with him. But nothing short of letting him do whatever he wanted with the film would satisfy him. That wasn't our agreement, and I couldn't have the film go public with some of the problems I saw with it and I didn't really want someone with a grudge against me releasing and having final cut of a film that was, basically, about me. 

I should also point out that I am a very public person in St. Louis and have a great reputation of being friendly and easy to work with. I work with a wide variety of people in all different professions in St. Louis and have mentored and taught a number of younger filmmakers and artists. My clients love me and the work I do for them. And I command a great respect among the many people (over 40 people in the last 5 years) who have crewed for me on the event that Patrick was trying to make a film about. 

I should say that I don't think Patrick is a bad guy. He just doesn't seem to have a good grasp of how these things work. I'm sorry we couldn't work it out. I'm sorry he can't seem to get over this. But I don't know what else to do.  

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