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Complaint Review: Bluegreen Big Cedar Wilderness Club - Branson Missouri

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  • Bluegreen Big Cedar Wilderness Club Big Cedar Resort Branson, Missouri U.S.A.

Bluegreen Big Cedar Wilderness Club Timeshare Vacation Ownership Branson Missouri

*Consumer Comment: 2008 Consumer Report is Right On!

*UPDATE Employee: you sound silly

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This past June, my husband and I went with our four young children to the "Fishing Store" (a.k.a. Bass Pro Shop) in Columbia, Missouri. While there, we were approached by a salesman named Brian, who enthusiastically invited us to enjoy a luxurious family vacation at the Bass Pro Shop's premier resort in Branson, MIssouri. For just $59 up-front, we could enjoy two nights' accommodations at Big Cedar resort. PLUS we would receive two $25 Bass Pro Shops gift cards! The only catch was, that we must agree to attend a 90-minute tour of Big Cedar resort during our stay so that we could "see how great it was" and "tell our friends all about it". We took the bait, coughed up the 59 bucks and scheduled our resort vacation. We picked the first weekend in October for the trip.

The time for our much-anticipated vacation finally arrived. We followed our G.P.S. to the address on our reservation confirmation letter, which took us through downtown Branson and led us straight to....the Radisson? What? This can't be right. Where's Big Cedar Lodge? This looks nothing like the website. Where's the horseback riding? Where's the lake with the canoes? Where's the mini-golf course? Where are the heated pools? No, this certainly was not a mountain resort lodge. This was a downtown Radisson hotel, with nothing but a few landscaping rocks and bushes for scenery. We were perplexed.

My husband pulled out his cell phone and dialed the phone number the salesman at Bass Pro gave us. The woman who answered the phone said that the particular salesman who sold us the vacation no longer works there. We spoke with a supervisor. The supervisor said that he was sorry about the "misunderstanding", but while the 90-minute time share presentation was indeed at the Big Cedar Resort, our accommodations were at the Radisson in downtown Branson. Woah. We certainly were not expecting that.

Nothing had ever been mentioned about our accommodations being anywhere but at Big Cedar. What a disappointment! Now, don't get me wrong. The Radisson is a nice hotel. We probably would have been fine staying there if we hadn't already spent months perusing Big Cedar's website, making plans and telling our kids all about fishing at the lake, swimming in the heated pool and playing mini-golf for three days and two nights. What was there to do at the Radisson?

Since the manager at Bass Pro couldn't help us, we decided to try the Bluegreen employees at the Radisson. We explained to the nice ladies at the desk all about the dishonest salesman at Bass Pro, and how we had a very clear understanding that we were supposed to be actually staying at the Big Cedar Resort, not just touring it. The sympathetic desk-workers were determined to make things right, and managed to find us a room at the Roaring River Lodge at the Big Cedar Resort! What a relief! Now we were ready to begin our vacation!

Our 90-minute tour was scheduled to begin at 12:30 the next day. There was a supervised play area provided for our oldest three children to stay in while we attended the presentation with our 1-year-old daughter. We started out in a little room full of people where a sales rep named Keith told us all about the points program, and how we could use our points to stay at any Bluegreen resort, or exchange them to use at countless other worldwide resorts and cruise lines.

Everything sounded great, and my husband and I were both getting excited about the idea of "vacation ownership". We were then handed over to our own personal tour guide named Michael Scott (no, seriously, that was his name) who showed us a couple of lodge rooms and told us what everything would cost. The 90-minutes we were planning to spend on the "tour" came and went and we were still hearing the pitch. TWO AND A HALF HOURS LATER...we were finally done, only after saying "no" to as many different "final offers" as one might expect to hear from a used car salesman. It was really rather infuriating.

Even though my husband and I both kind of liked the "point" system that allowed members to stay at different resorts all over the world at any time of the year, what we didn't like, was that the "charter" that would allow us to use the "points" the way we wanted to, was only effective if we agreed to buy into the program THAT DAY. If we waited until we were actually able to go home and think things over, or until a little later down road when we had paid off some of our student loans, we would lose the ability to stay at any of the other resorts and we would only be able to vacation at Big Cedar.

So, even if we might have been tempted to invest in Bluegreen's system of "vacation ownership", the mere fact that they were pressuring us to buy in now or never was enough to turn us off entirely. It didn't help either that the offer kept getting better and better each time we said "no". Points that started out costing over $3 a piece dropped in price to $2, then $1, and finally we were offered to enter into a "trial period" where we could purchase 9,000 single-use "trial" points for $900 with the option to buy into the ownership program at any time during the next 12 months and still get the charter to use points at other resorts....oh wait....but earlier he said that if we didn't buy TODAY there was NO WAY we could ever get the Charter.

The entire sales pitch was completely misleading. From the first representative at Bass Pro who told us we were going on a promotional tour and staying at Big Cedar, all the way down to the last offer that Michael Scott put on the table, we felt that we were intentionally being deceived. Michael kept saying that he didn't want to pressure us to buy, but then he would get up and talk to his "supervisor" and come back with a bigger and better offer, pretending like he was surprised at how great the offer was. How stupid does he think we are, really? It was offensive.

I honestly believe that we would have been much more likely to buy into the program if we had actually gotten a 90-minute tour of the grounds and amenities, not just a cheesy sales presentation, and if we had been allowed time to consider our finances, and talk to other people who had invested with Bluegreen. The product sounds really good, and the system of "points" is appealing. Why must they go and ruin it all by trying to milk people for all that they can get and flat out lie to them about what they can or can't get in a package. It's infuriating.

My recommendation: Say what you mean and mean what you say. Put everything on the table up front. Give people their options, including the year "trial" period, if they want, and then allow them time to think about it. If it's really a good product, they will want it as much tomorrow as they do today. Then, maybe you won't have to crank 100 people a day through cheesy, insincere presentations in order to get a sale.

Bobbi
Lake Ozark, Missouri
U.S.A.

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#2 Consumer Comment

2008 Consumer Report is Right On!

AUTHOR: Lance - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, December 06, 2015

It is now December 2015. I just did the sales tour as a consumer. I was completely displeased, so Googled it. Bobbi from Lake Ozark described my experience exactly. The employees rebuttal sounds as I would expect from a schischter salesman (I will bet you are one of the 'managers'). Not only are you crook, but you have bad grammar and poor spelling.

Stay away from these jerks. It is not worth the meager gift cards for crummy merchandise from Bass Pro.

P.S. Bass Pro (if you are reading): I hereby pledge to never spend another cent at any of your stores or properties. 

Best Regards

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#1 UPDATE Employee

you sound silly

AUTHOR: erawson - ()

POSTED: Tuesday, August 06, 2013

i wanted to address some of these issues you had. in the agreement you signed upon purchase in bass pro it did say that you had purchased a stay at the raddisson in branson. it is very clear and also the raddisson has recently completed a multi million dollar upgrade where many of the room do have sleep number beds and the hotel itself has an indoor and outdoor pool. its location is convieniently located on the main strip where most of the shows and attractions are.

i want to address the time spent at big cedar. it is in wrighting that you agree to attend an approximate timeshare sales tour. you said it yourself that you liked the point system that bluegreen had to offer and liked the resort but yet you say cheesy sales tactics? im confused. if you show interest while on the tour and ask the salesmen questions it is a "buying sign" and they are more then happy to answer them for you so if you are the one who unfortunately makes the mistake of asking questions when you dont even have your financials figured out shame on you lol.

addressing high pressure. just by you simply agreeing to take the timeshare tour implies possable interest in ownership. there job on site is to offer you every price they have. psychology teaches "out of sight out of mind" and this applies for every day life and the likelyhood of you coming back to purchase one in slim to non and we know this.

i am sorry you had many issues with our company how ever as an employee reading over your comments i feel a slight amusement how an individual as you could be so blind as what is goin on when planning a vacation with the issues you had. but who knows maybe you really where lied to by the salesman at bass pro. maybe you truelly didnt see on the receipt that that you had purchased a hotel stay at the raddisson.

and maybe... just maybe when you called customer service to schedule your arrival time they didnt tell you to go to a raddisson (highly unlikely) and maybe you should give us credit for giving you a 700 dollar two day three night stay at big cedar for only 59 and you got 25 back in gift card. you liked the resort. you had a good time. you liked what we had to offer. everything worked out so why complain so much to make us look so bad? you can take these vacations every 15 months and many ppl do. it is also in writing that there is "no hastle stress or obligation" during your stay to purchase any timeshare.

thank you

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