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Bob Cox Of Vom Shepherdhaus RIPOFF LIAR UNETHICAL BREEDER CON-ARTIST SCAMMER! Nashville Illinois
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I will tell my story from the beginning. I was needing a female for breeding as I raise German Shepherd dogs. I found Bob Cox's website and seen he had a female German Shepherd dog for sale, so I purchased her on 4/25/06 her name, Calla. Paid for her in full on that date. Per Bob, Calla was a puppy he sold from one of his imports Pia. When I purchased this dog, Bob was so fond of her that he asked that when she goes into heat, that he would love for me to breed her to his VA titled male, Marco. He said he would get pick of the litter female for the stud fee. I agreed. We shared emails back and forth, as I let him and his wife Ruth know how Calla was doing as this dog was once his neice's dog that Bob sold to her from a pup. According to Bob his neice returned the dog to Bob to sell as she was going to radiology school and had no time for the dog. I went to his home and bought her through his wife, Ruth as Bob was at work. We bought her, and thus far have been happy with her.
In May I seen he had another dog for sale, Hexe, he advertised her on the pedigree database, and on his website. I was needing another female for breeding, so on 5/26/06 I agreed to purchase Hexe on pmts. Total price $700., $300 down on 5/26/06, $200 per month until paid in full. I made a pmt on 6/26/06, I did not make my final $200 pmt on 7/26/06. This time we had to go to his work construction trailer located in Wood River, IL to pick her up. He would hold AKC papers until she was paid off. Bob wrote me a receipt for my money and he signed his name to the hand written receipt. He told my husband and I that he couldn't wait until Calla would go in heat, because he would love to have a pup from her. He seemed that day like a very nice individual.
To make a long story short, we weren't pleased with Hexe at all, she destroyed everything, from her water bucket to her brand new dog house. She destroyed her new rubber stall mat in her pen by chewing the center out of it. I emailed Bob about her destructive behavior, but didn't make an issue out of it. Just wanting him to be aware. Her DOB 12/31/04.
In May I was needing a stud dog for my breeding program, which Bob was aware, and as I told him if you know of someone that has a nice stud dog for my females let me know. He said he would. In May I received an email from Ruth stating that Bob had the perfect dog for me, she referred the dog as "top notch". The Cox's sent me a picture of "Blitz" via email. I was told Blitz' price was $3000. I didn't have the $3000 all at once. Bob suggested payments. Bob said he would make one hell of a stud dog with the deep red, and sound temperament. Bob would not tell me the owner's name who owned the dog, just that "he" was "Aaron". He often talked about this "Aaron". He wouldn't offer "Aaron's" last name, phone number, address other than Indiana. He said I know Aaron will do payments of $1000 down and $200 per month. Bob gave me HIS personal guarantee that if I didn't like the dog for ANY reason that HE would give me my money back. He said that "Aaron" is such a wonderful guy that for any reason you didn't like the dog, he would fly down at his expense and hand you cash and take the dog back NO questions asked. So I thought how can you go wrong with that kind of guarantee?
In June, Calla came into heat and we (my husband and I) took Calla down to Bob's construction trailer in Wood River, IL on June 21, 2006. We drove one way over 155 miles to drop her off. His home & kennel is located in Nashville, IL over 200 miles one way from our house to his. Bob and I were discussing me purchasing "Blitz" Bob said that "Aaron's" driver "Matt" comes his way once weekly as he drives a 3 ton truck, his driver would be glad to drop off the dog at Bob's. Then, Bob would just take the dog to work with him. Then I could pick up the dog at Bob's construction trailer in Wood River, IL. This talk went on for quite a spell. There was always an excuse to why "Aaron's" driver wasn't going to be up Bob's way. Always an excuse.
Calla bred to Marco on June 30, 2006 and Bob sent me an email stating she was bred on that date, and sent me a photo of the two dogs "tied" as proof that they were bred. We agreed to pick Calla up at Bob's house on 7/03/06.
In two attempts Bob tried to charge me for delivery fees on Blitz, the first time was before Calla was bred, and the price was $175 and I said no way. Then after Calla was bred, it was the 4th of July weekend and Bob said Matt would deliver Blitz to my door for $250 and we would just put that pmt on the end. Bob said that way you wouldn't have to fork out the money in advance. I said no that's way too much. I said what happened with Matt coming this way any way and bringing the dog for free, since he comes this way anyway? Bob asked me on the day we picked up Calla if I would wire Aaron the money on Blitz, I said no way, I said when I see the dog, I will pay for it.
This all began to be a run around with Blitz coming so I finally told Bob in an email that I will wait until 7/21/06 for Matt to bring him down on his way so there wasn't any delivery fees involved. I told him after that date I rather forget about Blitz and just wait until October after my litters are born and then go from there, either to buy another dog or perhaps Blitz may be available by then. As soon as Bob got that email the dog was ready to come down. No delivery fees or anything.
On July 3, 2006 we picked up Calla at Bob's house. When we were ready to load Calla some folks arrived from Springfield, MO with their dog to be mated to Marco. Before we left I asked Ruth about a contract, and Bob was talking to the folks from Springfield and she said Kathy wants a contract, and he said no, no need, he said to go on line to AKC and for me to download the form fill it out, send it to him and he will sign it. My husband and I thanked them and we left.
I was very concerned about brucellosis, I asked Bob about this since Marco has sired 47 litters, and he said no he's negative.
I said but do you require a smear/testing from the female who's being brought in to be bred to Marco? I never got an answer on that. That worried me.
July 11, 2006 we went to pick up "Blitz Mi Amigo Can" from Bob's construction trailer. The night before, Bob asked me how I was going to pay the $1000 down payment. I told him I would pay by check or certified cashiers check from the bank, he said no, bring cash. I said ok. When I walked in to that trailer I was shocked, the dog that laid at Bob's feet did not look like the dog in the photo that was sent to me. His ribs were showing and the head of this dog was very much smaller than the photo sent. Bob seemed very nervous about the whole thing. This dog's coat was badly blown and very dull. I gave my husband a look, like you got to be kidding me. My first remarks was my God this dog is skinny, and Bob's reply was oh you can fatten him up. I said for $3000 and not even bathed, as he had dried feces on him. He smelled bad. He said "Aaron" didn't have time to bathe him. My husband liked the dog, as his temperament was good. I figured I can feed him, bathe him so we agreed to buy him. Bob said did you bring cash, I said yes, I told him I had to borrow the money. I said I need a receipt so he had a notebook pad and hand wrote a receipt he first wrote the date he said outloud July 11th that's a bad day, I said how so, he said that's my ex wife's birthday and I just received in the mail yesterday a registered letter from her attorney that I have to come up with $1000 for more child support. He began to tell me his sad story about his ex wife screwing him over on child support. I said I need "Aaron's" last name and he said oh no, Aaron's in trouble with the IRS, I said well I need his address to send the pmts to, and he said no, everything with this dog will be through me, he said you will make the pmts payable to me and send them to my address. He signed a receipt accepting my $1000 cash, he identified the dog sold as "Blitz" and signed his name as receiver. I signed nothing. He guaranteed the dog to be in good health, guaranteed him to be a stud dog. Guaranteed me AKC papers that he would put the dog in his name, as Blitz was an import from Argentina. Aaron never transfered the import papers to AKC papers. Bob also told me that I could have Blitz sire a litter now and recoup some of my investment as the AKC papers were in process, by that time everything would be in order to register a litter. Bob was putting his name as ownership of the dog on the AKC papers & all paper work would be transfered in Bob's name.
On July 13, 2006 I took Blitz to my vet for an exam, this dog crossed IN, IL, MO state lines without a health certificate, no current vaccinations, not even a rabies vacc. Bob said Aaron told him it was over a month since he had any heart worm preventative so I thought it best to have him checked out. My vet gave him an exam, he drew blood for the heart worm test, which was negative, he gave Blitz a rabies shot. When I got him home I administered frontline plus, and gave him the heart-gard plus chewable that I bought from my vet.
I told Bob in an email that Ginny my other female was in heat and I was going to breed her to Blitz, Ginny is a red sable and he said those would be some awesome puppies. On July 14, 2006 Ginny was ready to accept the male, but Blitz could not perform. He just couldn't do it. I wrote Bob an email on 7/15/06 stating Blitz was like my other male, not performing. He would not reply. I finally had to call him on Monday the 17th and told him, we tried and tried and he won't breed. I even assisted the female and Blitz would have no part of it. Bob told me that he guaranteed that if I put the two dogs in an air conditioned room that they would breed. I called my vet and I was told by him that the temps didn't matter if the dog was going to breed he would breed. I told Bob I am not putting the dogs in my house. So, then I thought of my daughter's basement and I put them down there. They had plenty of time for cool down and it was 69 degrees in the basement. For 2 hrs after cool down, Blitz tried relentlessly to breed her and for 2 hours my female just stood there waiting. He couldn't do it, period. I let Bob know, and I sent him pictures. When I sent the photos via email proving the dog would not make a "tie" he went off and that's when I seen his true side! Bob blamed everything and everybody for the dog not breeding. Of course it was everybody else's fault except for Blitz.
Bob told me on 7/18/06 that Blitz sired 2 litters, I said how so with no AKC papers? He paused and said in Argentina. Hmmm.
Then I called AKC to get the registry's number in Argentina, since my son-in-law is on home for leave from the military he speaks Spanish, so he was going to call Argentina to get the info thats when Aaron Pickard decides to call...
On July 18, 2006 I get a call from AARON PICKARD, now he calls me! I taped the conversation. Aaron guaranteed me the dog to breed or I would get a 310% refund of my money, PLUS as a BONUS I would get to keep the dog as well. I told Aaron I don't want a dog that doesn't breed. He said he would also replace the dog. The replacement hasn't shown up either. Aaron said he would PERSONALLY come down and prove that the dog would breed. (he hasn't shown up yet) When they (Bob and Aaron) found out that I was calling Argentina Aaron jumped to the defense that the pups that Blitz sired in Argentina were sold as "pets" and not registered. Of course, once again no proof. I asked Aaron why is he calling me now? He said he lets his clients (Bob) sell dogs on thier own to make money etc., and he's just a mediator in all this. His reason for calling was to try to get Bob and I to work things out. He told me that the dog would breed without any problems. (remember this is being taped) he wanted me to feel comfortable that he would make things right by telling me that he would give my money back if the dog can't breed. I had his personal guarantee and Bob's too.
From July 14, thru July 18 we tried to breed Blitz and Ginny and on the 19th she was going out of heat, so therefore I lost out on a litter of pups. She was bred to my other stud and sired a litter of 6 that brought $6500. So this breeding attempt was worthless. I let Bob know via email that the breeding was a total loss.
On July 19, 2006 I get another call from Aaron Pickard, and this time its a nasty call, again I taped what was said. He said he now has the dog (Blitz) sold to someone else as a stud dog, and would return my money once I take the dog to Indiana and he would send me a refund once his vet checks him over. I laughed, I said the dog will be taken back to Bob's where he was picked up from, once my refund is paid plus $10 per day boarding fees. Mr. Pickard became very agitated at this point and made threats, and cursed at me. I told him his conversations were taped and he became angry and finally I hung up on him. Where's the guarantee now? Where's Aaron Pickard at to help assist the breeding? Where's the replacement? Where's my refund? Where? Where? LIES, LIES, LIES and more LIES!
On 7/19/06 after I hung up on Aaron Pickard, I was sitting at my computer and I was at the pedigree database site and all of a sudden I seen Aaron Pickard's name I clicked on his name and someone had wrote in that he apparently scammed this lady in the state of LA out of $4000 and there was an arrest warrant issued for him, in fact this lady has posted on this site about her complaint. I couldn't believe it. I contacted the lady and other parties were contacting her as they too were ripped off by this Aaron Pickard. One lady contacted me and told me that her friend purchased a puppy from Bob Cox that had "red mange" and that their experience with the Cox's was not a pleasant one, and that her friend had to wait a year and a half for a replacement pup.
On Sunday, July 23, 2006 Blitz was laying on his back and I rubbed his belly, I felt something, and moved his hair back and noticed he had a scar. My first assumption was a hernia repair. So, I called my vet on the 24th and took Blitz in. (70 miles round trip) He examined Blitz and yes it was a scar from a hernia repair. He said the dog was not suitable for breeding, he gave me a document stating such. My vet recommended that the dog be returned as he is not a stud dog and cannot be used as such with a hereditary defect.
On 7/20/06 I sent Bob Cox a certified letter demanding my $1000 refunded.
On 7/24/06 I sent another letter to Bob via delivery confirmationm copies given to him of the vet's report, copy of Aaron's email to me stating that he wanted a report from the vet stating why the dog is not breedable. I also copied Bob's handwritten receipt he gave me on 7/11/06 for my $1000 cash paid to him, my vet gave me a health certificate so when Bob refunds my money he will have that to go with, I also sent him a copy of the pink papered pedigree of Blitz that Bob emailed to me. Stating Blitz' DOB of 9/12/04 and tattoo in right ear BM-3055. Full name: Blitz Mi Amigo Can.
On 7/26/06 I met with an attorney and he sent Bob a letter demanding a refund and told him the consequences if payment is not made. He said that Bob was the "acting" agent for Aaron Pickard and there is no way he's escaping liability on this matter.
On 7/27/06 Bob called me demanding the $200 for Hexe's last pmt for his son to be made. I refused him and told him until my money is refunded first and foremost of the $1000 I will not pay him anything. He stated he did not sell me a dog (Blitz). But he's more involved than he thinks. In his own admission he accepts the down payment and requests that ALL future payments are made payable to him and sent to his address NOT Aaron's. He agrees that the AKC papers will be transfered in HIS name NOT Aaron's.
On 7/27/06 Bob said that it was okay to breed Blitz regardless of his hernia. I was floored. He wasn't denying the hernia, he was casual like no big deal. I asked him what kind of ethical breeder are you? To pass on off spring with this defect? He said that the kind of hernia Blitz had, was that the mother pulled the cord off his belly. How the hell would he know this info when the dog came from Argentina?? Hmmm? Is this truly a dog from Argentina? Where is his origin?
Bob persisted in telling me on 7/27/06 that he was an innocent helper for Aaron. If this isn't a scam of some sort, wouldn't you provide the last name to someone or an address? Why would someone want to take payments on a dog that he doesn't own? Why would someone agree to register the dog with AKC if you do not own the dog. Why would he want all this liability? Why is he concealing Aaron's address and whereabouts? I am sure Bob got a cut in this. I asked Bob, ok if all this is true and your so innocent give me Aaron's address, he paused for a long time, and I said hello? He said I don't have it, let's see, uh, uh I had it, but I don't know, lets see I don't have it right now. Yeah right!
On 7/27/06 I asked Bob where is my AKC litter application for Calla's and Marco's litter, so I can register the dogs that will be born on 8/31/06? He said oh no those will be pet puppies, I am not signing any AKC papers I told you that. Marco's puppies are pet puppies. He is nothing but a liar! I told him I drove over 600 miles TWICE and not for pet puppies. Okay who is going to breed a dog to a VA titled male and he's to get pick of the litter, for a PET? Well there you have it, if he sells dogs or represents dogs that cannot breed, falsely guarantees stud dogs, selling dogs as breedable studs with defects, now his VA titled male produces pet only puppies that tells you a lot about the quality he produces!
The reason why he desperately wanted Calla and Marco to breed was because his "Xenia" listed on his website, her breeding didn't take with Marco, and he told me he took deposits on her litter and they were due around June 26, 2006 and she didn't have any puppies per Bob, so he owed a guy a male and he told me that he would rather have a pick male vs pick female so he could supply his buyer, an AKC male puppy. That's what he agreed to. Now he refuses to give papers on this litter.
The expenses that we incured are enormus. I have lost out on TWO litters, as Calla's litter is now worthless without AKC papers. I have turned down deposits on this litter because Bob refuses to sign off on the papers. I have lost out on Ginny's litter as I could have bred her with my other male but didn't because Cox and Pickard told me to keep trying with Blitz.
Then I have $1000 tied up in a dog that cannot breed and has a genetic defect, so his performance is not an issue. I will not breed a dog with a defect. My vet stated to me on 7/27/06 that he will stand behind his document that he signed on 7/24/06 that the dog (Blitz) is not to be used for breeding. He also stated to me on 7/27/06 that there is no vet in the United States that will tell you to use a dog in this case "Blitz" as a stud with his prior hernia. Not only have we suffered loss of 2 litters, we are out our travel expenses, my husband's loss of wages getting the dogs etc., I will proceed with a law suit against them. My attorney said that both are liable, and I could go after both, but since Bob was the acting agent for the transaction and he's the one who took my money and provided me with receipts etc., the transaction took place in Madison County, IL and that is where we will be filing suit to recover all damages and attorney fees. We shall see what a good friend Aaron Pickard is to his friend Bob Cox, let's see if Aaron appears in court with Bob and takes full responsiblity? Any bets?
Avoid these men like the plague, if you must do business with them or anyone for that matter have EVERY single thing in writing. Bob has proved to me without a doubt he is a liar, a manipulator, my dealings with him has been nothing but a scam! BUYER BEWARE!
K
La Grange, Missouri
U.S.A.
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#7 Author of original report
Bob Cox Ripoff, LIAR, NOW bashes our military
AUTHOR: K - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 09, 2006
To whom it may concern:
As you can see from this report which I filed on 7/28/06 and updated on 9/27/06 the report states what I have been saying all along about Bob Cox.
He is a liar, a ripoff, and an unethical breeder.
Bob Cox to this day has not yet contacted the Illinois Attorney General's office. Their office sent him a demand letter months ago for the $1000 that he owes me on the "Blitz" dog. I talked to J.K. consumer protection advocate on 12/05/06 and the letter that was written to Mr. Cox demanding him to pay me, was sent out months ago and Mr. Cox will NOT respond, nor will he pay up! That's why he has a law suit pending with the courts to be heard next week. My original complaint was filed against Mr. Cox with the Illinois Attorney General's office in August of 2006. He also had complaints filed against him with the AKC as well. It took that complaint to the AKC to enforce his signature on the litter application. After months of his refusal to sign off he did so because he was in fear that the AKC would suspend his membership meaning that he could not register any future offspring, so he knew he had to sign those papers if not he couldn't peddle the crap dogs he sells to unsuspecting buyers.
Once he was forced to sign the application FOR AKC, he now thought he was entitled to a pup, and once I allowed him to get the pup, he refused to come pick it up. I sent him a certified letter dated 10/31/06 allowing him until 11/06/06 to pick the pup up, and PRIOR to my certified letter to him, my attorney wrote him a letter stating to pick up the pup, and Mr. Cox refused, he wanted a THIRD party to come pick up the puppy, because he is the COWARD and didn't want to face me. The pup was sold on 11/16/06 because I was not going to board anymore dogs for Mr. Cox as I been doing so since July the 11th on the Blitz dog. He can slander and lie but can't face anyone face to face.
But that's okay because the pup is in a wonderful, loving home the family he is with Bob Cox could NEVER ever, ever come even close in providing the love and care to this pup as he is receiving now. Bob Cox cares NOTHING, NOTHING about the dogs he sells, nor the people whom he sells to, his main concern is getting every cent he can get his hands on. Bottom line. Money is his #1 priority nothing else matters. That's why I say he has NO business in the dog business, he needs a new hobby.
But it doesn't stop there, he has now bashed a member of our military here's Mr. Cox's post.
The post below is from a Sgt in the U.S. Marine Corps who responded to Mr. Cox's slander about me...
Ladies and gentlemen my name is Sgt Axxxx Pxxxx, I am a 7 years veteran of the United States Marine Corps. I happen to have inside information concerning this problem. I purchased a male german shepard from Ms. Roberts about a year and a half ago. And I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, that he is by far the greatest quality of animal it has ever been my privilage to own. Ms. Roberts has always bred the dogs she has owned and she has been highly regarded by everyone that has purchased a dog from her.
Mr. Cox on the other hand has had several complaints proir to this. The problem with Mr. Cox is that he has inferior dogs with hernias and finds unsuppecting people who want to breed with his dogs. Ms. Roberts lost approximatly $5000 dollars due to the low quality of his dogs. And it took Mr. Cox 4 months to finally sign the AKC papers, only to cover his trail and not anger the AKC. Mr. Cox is a coward and a thief. I have had two tours in Iraq and never have I seen such an evil man. For your own safety please stay away from Mr. Cox and allow the proper authorities to deal with him. Ms. Roberts will be in my prayers and the good lord will take care of the rest. Thank you for your time and Semper Fi.
Allen - Camp Schwab, Okinowa Japan, Asia
U.S.A.
THIS IS HOW MR. COX replied....
Sgt Axxxx Pxxxx Mr.Marine
I am so happy you got a gsd from Kathy Roberts.
It is great that you are happy with it.
The problem is that your inside information is
just B.S. that you were told by this woman with serious mental problems.
By the way a COWARD is someone who does not have enough BALLS to say it in person and has to say it from many many miles away. You must be one bad a*s soldier. HA HA. You think you know a lot about her and her business,and you only bought a dog from her ,yea right!
I have never sold a dog with a hernia,unlike Kathy Roberts!!!
Everthing I said has been proven in court. And Kathys B.S.???????
She just sold 5 pups with hernias!!!!!
Bob
Bob - Nashville, Illinois
U.S.A.
This post from Mr. Cox is outrageous, disgusting, and uncalled for. Its bad enough Mr. Cox has no respect for women, by calling them bitches in public places, and now he has shown his true colors by attacking our service men, is this the kind of person YOU want to do business with? Certainly not me. Thousands of our men and women have fallen while fighting for "our" freedom, and this is the thanks that one of our fine Marines get? This is proof that Mr. Cox has no respect for himself, or anyone else. This is totally uncalled for. I am totally appalled by Mr. Cox's reponse to this Sgt.
#6 Author of original report
Bob Cox Ripoff, LIAR, NOW bashes our military
AUTHOR: K - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 09, 2006
To whom it may concern:
As you can see from this report which I filed on 7/28/06 and updated on 9/27/06 the report states what I have been saying all along about Bob Cox.
He is a liar, a ripoff, and an unethical breeder.
Bob Cox to this day has not yet contacted the Illinois Attorney General's office. Their office sent him a demand letter months ago for the $1000 that he owes me on the "Blitz" dog. I talked to J.K. consumer protection advocate on 12/05/06 and the letter that was written to Mr. Cox demanding him to pay me, was sent out months ago and Mr. Cox will NOT respond, nor will he pay up! That's why he has a law suit pending with the courts to be heard next week. My original complaint was filed against Mr. Cox with the Illinois Attorney General's office in August of 2006. He also had complaints filed against him with the AKC as well. It took that complaint to the AKC to enforce his signature on the litter application. After months of his refusal to sign off he did so because he was in fear that the AKC would suspend his membership meaning that he could not register any future offspring, so he knew he had to sign those papers if not he couldn't peddle the crap dogs he sells to unsuspecting buyers.
Once he was forced to sign the application FOR AKC, he now thought he was entitled to a pup, and once I allowed him to get the pup, he refused to come pick it up. I sent him a certified letter dated 10/31/06 allowing him until 11/06/06 to pick the pup up, and PRIOR to my certified letter to him, my attorney wrote him a letter stating to pick up the pup, and Mr. Cox refused, he wanted a THIRD party to come pick up the puppy, because he is the COWARD and didn't want to face me. The pup was sold on 11/16/06 because I was not going to board anymore dogs for Mr. Cox as I been doing so since July the 11th on the Blitz dog. He can slander and lie but can't face anyone face to face.
But that's okay because the pup is in a wonderful, loving home the family he is with Bob Cox could NEVER ever, ever come even close in providing the love and care to this pup as he is receiving now. Bob Cox cares NOTHING, NOTHING about the dogs he sells, nor the people whom he sells to, his main concern is getting every cent he can get his hands on. Bottom line. Money is his #1 priority nothing else matters. That's why I say he has NO business in the dog business, he needs a new hobby.
But it doesn't stop there, he has now bashed a member of our military here's Mr. Cox's post.
The post below is from a Sgt in the U.S. Marine Corps who responded to Mr. Cox's slander about me...
Ladies and gentlemen my name is Sgt Axxxx Pxxxx, I am a 7 years veteran of the United States Marine Corps. I happen to have inside information concerning this problem. I purchased a male german shepard from Ms. Roberts about a year and a half ago. And I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, that he is by far the greatest quality of animal it has ever been my privilage to own. Ms. Roberts has always bred the dogs she has owned and she has been highly regarded by everyone that has purchased a dog from her.
Mr. Cox on the other hand has had several complaints proir to this. The problem with Mr. Cox is that he has inferior dogs with hernias and finds unsuppecting people who want to breed with his dogs. Ms. Roberts lost approximatly $5000 dollars due to the low quality of his dogs. And it took Mr. Cox 4 months to finally sign the AKC papers, only to cover his trail and not anger the AKC. Mr. Cox is a coward and a thief. I have had two tours in Iraq and never have I seen such an evil man. For your own safety please stay away from Mr. Cox and allow the proper authorities to deal with him. Ms. Roberts will be in my prayers and the good lord will take care of the rest. Thank you for your time and Semper Fi.
Allen - Camp Schwab, Okinowa Japan, Asia
U.S.A.
THIS IS HOW MR. COX replied....
Sgt Axxxx Pxxxx Mr.Marine
I am so happy you got a gsd from Kathy Roberts.
It is great that you are happy with it.
The problem is that your inside information is
just B.S. that you were told by this woman with serious mental problems.
By the way a COWARD is someone who does not have enough BALLS to say it in person and has to say it from many many miles away. You must be one bad a*s soldier. HA HA. You think you know a lot about her and her business,and you only bought a dog from her ,yea right!
I have never sold a dog with a hernia,unlike Kathy Roberts!!!
Everthing I said has been proven in court. And Kathys B.S.???????
She just sold 5 pups with hernias!!!!!
Bob
Bob - Nashville, Illinois
U.S.A.
This post from Mr. Cox is outrageous, disgusting, and uncalled for. Its bad enough Mr. Cox has no respect for women, by calling them bitches in public places, and now he has shown his true colors by attacking our service men, is this the kind of person YOU want to do business with? Certainly not me. Thousands of our men and women have fallen while fighting for "our" freedom, and this is the thanks that one of our fine Marines get? This is proof that Mr. Cox has no respect for himself, or anyone else. This is totally uncalled for. I am totally appalled by Mr. Cox's reponse to this Sgt.
#5 Author of original report
Bob Cox Ripoff, LIAR, NOW bashes our military
AUTHOR: K - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 09, 2006
To whom it may concern:
As you can see from this report which I filed on 7/28/06 and updated on 9/27/06 the report states what I have been saying all along about Bob Cox.
He is a liar, a ripoff, and an unethical breeder.
Bob Cox to this day has not yet contacted the Illinois Attorney General's office. Their office sent him a demand letter months ago for the $1000 that he owes me on the "Blitz" dog. I talked to J.K. consumer protection advocate on 12/05/06 and the letter that was written to Mr. Cox demanding him to pay me, was sent out months ago and Mr. Cox will NOT respond, nor will he pay up! That's why he has a law suit pending with the courts to be heard next week. My original complaint was filed against Mr. Cox with the Illinois Attorney General's office in August of 2006. He also had complaints filed against him with the AKC as well. It took that complaint to the AKC to enforce his signature on the litter application. After months of his refusal to sign off he did so because he was in fear that the AKC would suspend his membership meaning that he could not register any future offspring, so he knew he had to sign those papers if not he couldn't peddle the crap dogs he sells to unsuspecting buyers.
Once he was forced to sign the application FOR AKC, he now thought he was entitled to a pup, and once I allowed him to get the pup, he refused to come pick it up. I sent him a certified letter dated 10/31/06 allowing him until 11/06/06 to pick the pup up, and PRIOR to my certified letter to him, my attorney wrote him a letter stating to pick up the pup, and Mr. Cox refused, he wanted a THIRD party to come pick up the puppy, because he is the COWARD and didn't want to face me. The pup was sold on 11/16/06 because I was not going to board anymore dogs for Mr. Cox as I been doing so since July the 11th on the Blitz dog. He can slander and lie but can't face anyone face to face.
But that's okay because the pup is in a wonderful, loving home the family he is with Bob Cox could NEVER ever, ever come even close in providing the love and care to this pup as he is receiving now. Bob Cox cares NOTHING, NOTHING about the dogs he sells, nor the people whom he sells to, his main concern is getting every cent he can get his hands on. Bottom line. Money is his #1 priority nothing else matters. That's why I say he has NO business in the dog business, he needs a new hobby.
But it doesn't stop there, he has now bashed a member of our military here's Mr. Cox's post.
The post below is from a Sgt in the U.S. Marine Corps who responded to Mr. Cox's slander about me...
Ladies and gentlemen my name is Sgt Axxxx Pxxxx, I am a 7 years veteran of the United States Marine Corps. I happen to have inside information concerning this problem. I purchased a male german shepard from Ms. Roberts about a year and a half ago. And I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, that he is by far the greatest quality of animal it has ever been my privilage to own. Ms. Roberts has always bred the dogs she has owned and she has been highly regarded by everyone that has purchased a dog from her.
Mr. Cox on the other hand has had several complaints proir to this. The problem with Mr. Cox is that he has inferior dogs with hernias and finds unsuppecting people who want to breed with his dogs. Ms. Roberts lost approximatly $5000 dollars due to the low quality of his dogs. And it took Mr. Cox 4 months to finally sign the AKC papers, only to cover his trail and not anger the AKC. Mr. Cox is a coward and a thief. I have had two tours in Iraq and never have I seen such an evil man. For your own safety please stay away from Mr. Cox and allow the proper authorities to deal with him. Ms. Roberts will be in my prayers and the good lord will take care of the rest. Thank you for your time and Semper Fi.
Allen - Camp Schwab, Okinowa Japan, Asia
U.S.A.
THIS IS HOW MR. COX replied....
Sgt Axxxx Pxxxx Mr.Marine
I am so happy you got a gsd from Kathy Roberts.
It is great that you are happy with it.
The problem is that your inside information is
just B.S. that you were told by this woman with serious mental problems.
By the way a COWARD is someone who does not have enough BALLS to say it in person and has to say it from many many miles away. You must be one bad a*s soldier. HA HA. You think you know a lot about her and her business,and you only bought a dog from her ,yea right!
I have never sold a dog with a hernia,unlike Kathy Roberts!!!
Everthing I said has been proven in court. And Kathys B.S.???????
She just sold 5 pups with hernias!!!!!
Bob
Bob - Nashville, Illinois
U.S.A.
This post from Mr. Cox is outrageous, disgusting, and uncalled for. Its bad enough Mr. Cox has no respect for women, by calling them bitches in public places, and now he has shown his true colors by attacking our service men, is this the kind of person YOU want to do business with? Certainly not me. Thousands of our men and women have fallen while fighting for "our" freedom, and this is the thanks that one of our fine Marines get? This is proof that Mr. Cox has no respect for himself, or anyone else. This is totally uncalled for. I am totally appalled by Mr. Cox's reponse to this Sgt.
#4 Author of original report
Bob Cox, Cox K9's, Cox's Vom Shepherdhaus Kennels, Vom Shepherdhaus,
AUTHOR: K - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 27, 2006
I filed a complaint against Bob Cox, DBA: "Cox's Vom Shepherdhaus Kennels", AKA "Cox K9's", "Vom Shepherdhaus", (( link removed by ROR)) I filed my complaint with the Illinois Attorney General's office on 8/10/06. After the Attorney General's office received my complaint, they contacted Bob Cox by mail. Mr. Cox called the Attorney General's office on 8/24/06 to ask for an extension. Today's date is 9/27/06 over a month has passed and Mr. Cox will NOT respond to the Illinois Attorney General's office. I wonder why, perhaps guilty of FRAUD?
I also filed a complaint against Bob Cox and his business with the Better Business Bureau on 8/10/06. On 8/24/06 Mr. Cox replied to the BBB with this: "I paid Aaron's driver up front, since I was going to be meeting with Kathy the next day and figured I'd be reimburse."
On July 24, 2006 Mr. Cox sent me a certified letter and he stated this: "I wrote you a receipt for the cash and forwarded it to Aaron."
There are two conflicting statements here!
Bob Cox is nothing but a FRAUD, a RIP-OFF, and a LIAR! He tells the Better Business Bureau he paid for the dog up front by giving his money out of pocket to the "driver". Then he states in a certified letter to me that he sent the money that I paid down ($1000) cash to Aaron. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he didn't pay TWICE for the dog. My $1000 cash went into Bob Cox's pocket. Period! End of story!
Does Bob Cox think we are all stupid? Bob Cox states to the BBB that he didn't get a receipt from the "driver". He states he paid cash up front the night before I bought the dog. He states he did not know the driver. He states he mailed my $1000 cash to Aaron Pickard, yet he doesn't know Aaron's address! WOW what's wrong with this story???
Why would Bob Cox pay up front for a dog especially not knowing if I would take it or not? Why would anyone pay CASH to someone they do not know? Why wouldn't you get a receipt? Why would you send $1000 CASH to someone through the mail? Why can't Bob reveal Aaron Pickard's address in Elkhart, IN? The Wood River, IL police came to Bob's work site and he lied to the Police when they asked for Aaron's address. What does Bob Cox have to hide? (PLENTY)
It is evident Bob Cox is caught up in his own lies. In case you are reading this Bob, the Attorney General is still waiting for your response. He figured you and Aaron out as well. You can't con people who deal with "your kind" on a daily basis!
I can only assume this...Bob Cox bought the dog, "Blitz" from his good friend, Aaron Pickard for $400 exactly what Aaron paid for the dog, because the dog was useless to Aaron, he had him for awhile now, clearly could not afford feed for the dog, NOR any health care, that was obvious the day we got him. The dog couldn't breed and he also has a defect. So since Bob Cox knew I was looking for a "stud" that's when the perfect opportunity arose for Bob to make some $$$ and Aaron to unload a worthless dog. I doubt that Bob was spliting the money as Bob told me numerous times that he wanted ALL payments made to him ONLY. He was going to have the AKC papers put in HIS name, but I found out that was impossible as well. So even if this dog was a stud, without a defect he couldn't be registered with AKC. There again worthless without papers. Nothing but a SCAM!
I sent copies of Blitz' imported pedigree papers to AKC case management dept & to the foreign registry dept., along with a letter to let them know the fraud that these two men are commiting.
On 8/15/06 at 4:08 p.m. Bob Cox submitted the following to the pedigree database forum as facts: "Fact 8: She filed a claim with the Ill att. General office and they sent me a copy of her hand written complaint.I sent back copys of her emails and they proved that she was all lies."
Another lie! I printed out Bob Cox's post and sent them to the Illinois Attorney General's office & I asked them for copies of emails that Bob Cox stated that he sent to them. Its very interesting as Bob Cox has NOT submitted anything to them, other than a phone call he made on 8/24/06 begging for a 2 wk extension. Here Bob Cox is lying about a Gov't Agency! The IL Attny General's office re-sent Bob Cox another letter on 9/14/06 once again requesting that he get in touch with them. Why is he avoiding the Illinois Attorney General's office???
The Attorney General's office and I have talked in lenght about Bob Cox and we went over multiple conflicts in his statements that he's made in emails, in letters etc, I have everything prepared to take to court. I am hoping that the Attny General's office will file charges against him.
On 8/14/06 a lady posted the following on the pedigree database: "I know for a fact that Aaron did not import this dog. He bought it from a friend of mine in Florida for 400. My friend imported this dog at age one and had it for less than 6 months. He did not breed in Argentina, he was bought for resale for a pet. Aaron told my friend that he sold it to a family for a pet. If you like email me personally and I will get you in touch with the original importer of this dog. THe only freight bill is from FLorida to Indiana. Good luck.."
I called this lady after we emailed each other, and Jill informed me that her friend "Sen" in FL., purchased this dog and he did in fact sell this dog to Bob Cox's friend Aaron Pickard in the amount of $400. USD. FOR A PET! (FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS) My price was an outrageous $3000 (THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS) for a "top notch stud" that's what Bob referred Blitz to a "top notch stud". I am not concerned about the profit, its the mere fact that Bob Cox knowingly, and willfully sold me a dog that was of no use to me whatsoever. Bob knew for a fact that Blitz was NOT stud quality. I sent emails to Bob stating I was needing a "stud" for my breeding females. Bob Cox tells lie after lie after lie! He's only been in the German Shepherd business for a short time, he knows absolutely NOTHING about these dogs. When you treat people so WRONG as he did me, soon enough he will not be in business for long. I can only hope its sooner than later. Believe me, I am not alone here. I have many emails from others complaining about Bob Cox and his "breeding" practices.
Bob Cox is advertising puppies on his website and I would use extreme caution in buying ANYTHING from that man. He also advertises his stud, Marco on his website. If you do any business with this man have an attorney draw up a contract. In the long run, it wouldn't be worth it. There are many good breeders out there that sell top quality dogs, and are true to their word. Don't waste your time with Bob Cox. I wouldn't advise anyone using his stud, I used his stud (per HIS request) and he lied once AGAIN, this time about litter papers. Bob Cox is one big bag of garbage! Its ashame that no one can trust anyone anymore, everything has to be in writing, or better yet in blood, it use to be a hand shake and your word meant the world. HUH!
Bob Cox's word means absolutely NOTHING! He's a man that lives beyond his means, and sells junk dogs for top dollar to pay his bills. He cares NOTHING about the people who he sells to that much is obvious. So if a man has little regard to his buyers what does that say about what he's selling?
Bob Cox does much advertising in the Southern Illinois Trader newspapers, and the online classifieds. I will be traveling soon to Illinois to file my claim against him in small claims court. My advise to people out there that's thinking of doing business with Bob Cox...BUYER BEWARE!!!
#3 Author of original report
Bob Cox, Cox K9's, Cox's Vom Shepherdhaus Kennels, Vom Shepherdhaus,
AUTHOR: K - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 27, 2006
I filed a complaint against Bob Cox, DBA: "Cox's Vom Shepherdhaus Kennels", AKA "Cox K9's", "Vom Shepherdhaus", (( link removed by ROR)) I filed my complaint with the Illinois Attorney General's office on 8/10/06. After the Attorney General's office received my complaint, they contacted Bob Cox by mail. Mr. Cox called the Attorney General's office on 8/24/06 to ask for an extension. Today's date is 9/27/06 over a month has passed and Mr. Cox will NOT respond to the Illinois Attorney General's office. I wonder why, perhaps guilty of FRAUD?
I also filed a complaint against Bob Cox and his business with the Better Business Bureau on 8/10/06. On 8/24/06 Mr. Cox replied to the BBB with this: "I paid Aaron's driver up front, since I was going to be meeting with Kathy the next day and figured I'd be reimburse."
On July 24, 2006 Mr. Cox sent me a certified letter and he stated this: "I wrote you a receipt for the cash and forwarded it to Aaron."
There are two conflicting statements here!
Bob Cox is nothing but a FRAUD, a RIP-OFF, and a LIAR! He tells the Better Business Bureau he paid for the dog up front by giving his money out of pocket to the "driver". Then he states in a certified letter to me that he sent the money that I paid down ($1000) cash to Aaron. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he didn't pay TWICE for the dog. My $1000 cash went into Bob Cox's pocket. Period! End of story!
Does Bob Cox think we are all stupid? Bob Cox states to the BBB that he didn't get a receipt from the "driver". He states he paid cash up front the night before I bought the dog. He states he did not know the driver. He states he mailed my $1000 cash to Aaron Pickard, yet he doesn't know Aaron's address! WOW what's wrong with this story???
Why would Bob Cox pay up front for a dog especially not knowing if I would take it or not? Why would anyone pay CASH to someone they do not know? Why wouldn't you get a receipt? Why would you send $1000 CASH to someone through the mail? Why can't Bob reveal Aaron Pickard's address in Elkhart, IN? The Wood River, IL police came to Bob's work site and he lied to the Police when they asked for Aaron's address. What does Bob Cox have to hide? (PLENTY)
It is evident Bob Cox is caught up in his own lies. In case you are reading this Bob, the Attorney General is still waiting for your response. He figured you and Aaron out as well. You can't con people who deal with "your kind" on a daily basis!
I can only assume this...Bob Cox bought the dog, "Blitz" from his good friend, Aaron Pickard for $400 exactly what Aaron paid for the dog, because the dog was useless to Aaron, he had him for awhile now, clearly could not afford feed for the dog, NOR any health care, that was obvious the day we got him. The dog couldn't breed and he also has a defect. So since Bob Cox knew I was looking for a "stud" that's when the perfect opportunity arose for Bob to make some $$$ and Aaron to unload a worthless dog. I doubt that Bob was spliting the money as Bob told me numerous times that he wanted ALL payments made to him ONLY. He was going to have the AKC papers put in HIS name, but I found out that was impossible as well. So even if this dog was a stud, without a defect he couldn't be registered with AKC. There again worthless without papers. Nothing but a SCAM!
I sent copies of Blitz' imported pedigree papers to AKC case management dept & to the foreign registry dept., along with a letter to let them know the fraud that these two men are commiting.
On 8/15/06 at 4:08 p.m. Bob Cox submitted the following to the pedigree database forum as facts: "Fact 8: She filed a claim with the Ill att. General office and they sent me a copy of her hand written complaint.I sent back copys of her emails and they proved that she was all lies."
Another lie! I printed out Bob Cox's post and sent them to the Illinois Attorney General's office & I asked them for copies of emails that Bob Cox stated that he sent to them. Its very interesting as Bob Cox has NOT submitted anything to them, other than a phone call he made on 8/24/06 begging for a 2 wk extension. Here Bob Cox is lying about a Gov't Agency! The IL Attny General's office re-sent Bob Cox another letter on 9/14/06 once again requesting that he get in touch with them. Why is he avoiding the Illinois Attorney General's office???
The Attorney General's office and I have talked in lenght about Bob Cox and we went over multiple conflicts in his statements that he's made in emails, in letters etc, I have everything prepared to take to court. I am hoping that the Attny General's office will file charges against him.
On 8/14/06 a lady posted the following on the pedigree database: "I know for a fact that Aaron did not import this dog. He bought it from a friend of mine in Florida for 400. My friend imported this dog at age one and had it for less than 6 months. He did not breed in Argentina, he was bought for resale for a pet. Aaron told my friend that he sold it to a family for a pet. If you like email me personally and I will get you in touch with the original importer of this dog. THe only freight bill is from FLorida to Indiana. Good luck.."
I called this lady after we emailed each other, and Jill informed me that her friend "Sen" in FL., purchased this dog and he did in fact sell this dog to Bob Cox's friend Aaron Pickard in the amount of $400. USD. FOR A PET! (FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS) My price was an outrageous $3000 (THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS) for a "top notch stud" that's what Bob referred Blitz to a "top notch stud". I am not concerned about the profit, its the mere fact that Bob Cox knowingly, and willfully sold me a dog that was of no use to me whatsoever. Bob knew for a fact that Blitz was NOT stud quality. I sent emails to Bob stating I was needing a "stud" for my breeding females. Bob Cox tells lie after lie after lie! He's only been in the German Shepherd business for a short time, he knows absolutely NOTHING about these dogs. When you treat people so WRONG as he did me, soon enough he will not be in business for long. I can only hope its sooner than later. Believe me, I am not alone here. I have many emails from others complaining about Bob Cox and his "breeding" practices.
Bob Cox is advertising puppies on his website and I would use extreme caution in buying ANYTHING from that man. He also advertises his stud, Marco on his website. If you do any business with this man have an attorney draw up a contract. In the long run, it wouldn't be worth it. There are many good breeders out there that sell top quality dogs, and are true to their word. Don't waste your time with Bob Cox. I wouldn't advise anyone using his stud, I used his stud (per HIS request) and he lied once AGAIN, this time about litter papers. Bob Cox is one big bag of garbage! Its ashame that no one can trust anyone anymore, everything has to be in writing, or better yet in blood, it use to be a hand shake and your word meant the world. HUH!
Bob Cox's word means absolutely NOTHING! He's a man that lives beyond his means, and sells junk dogs for top dollar to pay his bills. He cares NOTHING about the people who he sells to that much is obvious. So if a man has little regard to his buyers what does that say about what he's selling?
Bob Cox does much advertising in the Southern Illinois Trader newspapers, and the online classifieds. I will be traveling soon to Illinois to file my claim against him in small claims court. My advise to people out there that's thinking of doing business with Bob Cox...BUYER BEWARE!!!
#2 Author of original report
Bob Cox, Cox K9's, Cox's Vom Shepherdhaus Kennels, Vom Shepherdhaus,
AUTHOR: K - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 27, 2006
I filed a complaint against Bob Cox, DBA: "Cox's Vom Shepherdhaus Kennels", AKA "Cox K9's", "Vom Shepherdhaus", (( link removed by ROR)) I filed my complaint with the Illinois Attorney General's office on 8/10/06. After the Attorney General's office received my complaint, they contacted Bob Cox by mail. Mr. Cox called the Attorney General's office on 8/24/06 to ask for an extension. Today's date is 9/27/06 over a month has passed and Mr. Cox will NOT respond to the Illinois Attorney General's office. I wonder why, perhaps guilty of FRAUD?
I also filed a complaint against Bob Cox and his business with the Better Business Bureau on 8/10/06. On 8/24/06 Mr. Cox replied to the BBB with this: "I paid Aaron's driver up front, since I was going to be meeting with Kathy the next day and figured I'd be reimburse."
On July 24, 2006 Mr. Cox sent me a certified letter and he stated this: "I wrote you a receipt for the cash and forwarded it to Aaron."
There are two conflicting statements here!
Bob Cox is nothing but a FRAUD, a RIP-OFF, and a LIAR! He tells the Better Business Bureau he paid for the dog up front by giving his money out of pocket to the "driver". Then he states in a certified letter to me that he sent the money that I paid down ($1000) cash to Aaron. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he didn't pay TWICE for the dog. My $1000 cash went into Bob Cox's pocket. Period! End of story!
Does Bob Cox think we are all stupid? Bob Cox states to the BBB that he didn't get a receipt from the "driver". He states he paid cash up front the night before I bought the dog. He states he did not know the driver. He states he mailed my $1000 cash to Aaron Pickard, yet he doesn't know Aaron's address! WOW what's wrong with this story???
Why would Bob Cox pay up front for a dog especially not knowing if I would take it or not? Why would anyone pay CASH to someone they do not know? Why wouldn't you get a receipt? Why would you send $1000 CASH to someone through the mail? Why can't Bob reveal Aaron Pickard's address in Elkhart, IN? The Wood River, IL police came to Bob's work site and he lied to the Police when they asked for Aaron's address. What does Bob Cox have to hide? (PLENTY)
It is evident Bob Cox is caught up in his own lies. In case you are reading this Bob, the Attorney General is still waiting for your response. He figured you and Aaron out as well. You can't con people who deal with "your kind" on a daily basis!
I can only assume this...Bob Cox bought the dog, "Blitz" from his good friend, Aaron Pickard for $400 exactly what Aaron paid for the dog, because the dog was useless to Aaron, he had him for awhile now, clearly could not afford feed for the dog, NOR any health care, that was obvious the day we got him. The dog couldn't breed and he also has a defect. So since Bob Cox knew I was looking for a "stud" that's when the perfect opportunity arose for Bob to make some $$$ and Aaron to unload a worthless dog. I doubt that Bob was spliting the money as Bob told me numerous times that he wanted ALL payments made to him ONLY. He was going to have the AKC papers put in HIS name, but I found out that was impossible as well. So even if this dog was a stud, without a defect he couldn't be registered with AKC. There again worthless without papers. Nothing but a SCAM!
I sent copies of Blitz' imported pedigree papers to AKC case management dept & to the foreign registry dept., along with a letter to let them know the fraud that these two men are commiting.
On 8/15/06 at 4:08 p.m. Bob Cox submitted the following to the pedigree database forum as facts: "Fact 8: She filed a claim with the Ill att. General office and they sent me a copy of her hand written complaint.I sent back copys of her emails and they proved that she was all lies."
Another lie! I printed out Bob Cox's post and sent them to the Illinois Attorney General's office & I asked them for copies of emails that Bob Cox stated that he sent to them. Its very interesting as Bob Cox has NOT submitted anything to them, other than a phone call he made on 8/24/06 begging for a 2 wk extension. Here Bob Cox is lying about a Gov't Agency! The IL Attny General's office re-sent Bob Cox another letter on 9/14/06 once again requesting that he get in touch with them. Why is he avoiding the Illinois Attorney General's office???
The Attorney General's office and I have talked in lenght about Bob Cox and we went over multiple conflicts in his statements that he's made in emails, in letters etc, I have everything prepared to take to court. I am hoping that the Attny General's office will file charges against him.
On 8/14/06 a lady posted the following on the pedigree database: "I know for a fact that Aaron did not import this dog. He bought it from a friend of mine in Florida for 400. My friend imported this dog at age one and had it for less than 6 months. He did not breed in Argentina, he was bought for resale for a pet. Aaron told my friend that he sold it to a family for a pet. If you like email me personally and I will get you in touch with the original importer of this dog. THe only freight bill is from FLorida to Indiana. Good luck.."
I called this lady after we emailed each other, and Jill informed me that her friend "Sen" in FL., purchased this dog and he did in fact sell this dog to Bob Cox's friend Aaron Pickard in the amount of $400. USD. FOR A PET! (FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS) My price was an outrageous $3000 (THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS) for a "top notch stud" that's what Bob referred Blitz to a "top notch stud". I am not concerned about the profit, its the mere fact that Bob Cox knowingly, and willfully sold me a dog that was of no use to me whatsoever. Bob knew for a fact that Blitz was NOT stud quality. I sent emails to Bob stating I was needing a "stud" for my breeding females. Bob Cox tells lie after lie after lie! He's only been in the German Shepherd business for a short time, he knows absolutely NOTHING about these dogs. When you treat people so WRONG as he did me, soon enough he will not be in business for long. I can only hope its sooner than later. Believe me, I am not alone here. I have many emails from others complaining about Bob Cox and his "breeding" practices.
Bob Cox is advertising puppies on his website and I would use extreme caution in buying ANYTHING from that man. He also advertises his stud, Marco on his website. If you do any business with this man have an attorney draw up a contract. In the long run, it wouldn't be worth it. There are many good breeders out there that sell top quality dogs, and are true to their word. Don't waste your time with Bob Cox. I wouldn't advise anyone using his stud, I used his stud (per HIS request) and he lied once AGAIN, this time about litter papers. Bob Cox is one big bag of garbage! Its ashame that no one can trust anyone anymore, everything has to be in writing, or better yet in blood, it use to be a hand shake and your word meant the world. HUH!
Bob Cox's word means absolutely NOTHING! He's a man that lives beyond his means, and sells junk dogs for top dollar to pay his bills. He cares NOTHING about the people who he sells to that much is obvious. So if a man has little regard to his buyers what does that say about what he's selling?
Bob Cox does much advertising in the Southern Illinois Trader newspapers, and the online classifieds. I will be traveling soon to Illinois to file my claim against him in small claims court. My advise to people out there that's thinking of doing business with Bob Cox...BUYER BEWARE!!!
#1 Author of original report
Bob Cox, Cox K9's, Cox's Vom Shepherdhaus Kennels, Vom Shepherdhaus,
AUTHOR: K - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 27, 2006
I filed a complaint against Bob Cox, DBA: "Cox's Vom Shepherdhaus Kennels", AKA "Cox K9's", "Vom Shepherdhaus", (( link removed by ROR)) I filed my complaint with the Illinois Attorney General's office on 8/10/06. After the Attorney General's office received my complaint, they contacted Bob Cox by mail. Mr. Cox called the Attorney General's office on 8/24/06 to ask for an extension. Today's date is 9/27/06 over a month has passed and Mr. Cox will NOT respond to the Illinois Attorney General's office. I wonder why, perhaps guilty of FRAUD?
I also filed a complaint against Bob Cox and his business with the Better Business Bureau on 8/10/06. On 8/24/06 Mr. Cox replied to the BBB with this: "I paid Aaron's driver up front, since I was going to be meeting with Kathy the next day and figured I'd be reimburse."
On July 24, 2006 Mr. Cox sent me a certified letter and he stated this: "I wrote you a receipt for the cash and forwarded it to Aaron."
There are two conflicting statements here!
Bob Cox is nothing but a FRAUD, a RIP-OFF, and a LIAR! He tells the Better Business Bureau he paid for the dog up front by giving his money out of pocket to the "driver". Then he states in a certified letter to me that he sent the money that I paid down ($1000) cash to Aaron. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he didn't pay TWICE for the dog. My $1000 cash went into Bob Cox's pocket. Period! End of story!
Does Bob Cox think we are all stupid? Bob Cox states to the BBB that he didn't get a receipt from the "driver". He states he paid cash up front the night before I bought the dog. He states he did not know the driver. He states he mailed my $1000 cash to Aaron Pickard, yet he doesn't know Aaron's address! WOW what's wrong with this story???
Why would Bob Cox pay up front for a dog especially not knowing if I would take it or not? Why would anyone pay CASH to someone they do not know? Why wouldn't you get a receipt? Why would you send $1000 CASH to someone through the mail? Why can't Bob reveal Aaron Pickard's address in Elkhart, IN? The Wood River, IL police came to Bob's work site and he lied to the Police when they asked for Aaron's address. What does Bob Cox have to hide? (PLENTY)
It is evident Bob Cox is caught up in his own lies. In case you are reading this Bob, the Attorney General is still waiting for your response. He figured you and Aaron out as well. You can't con people who deal with "your kind" on a daily basis!
I can only assume this...Bob Cox bought the dog, "Blitz" from his good friend, Aaron Pickard for $400 exactly what Aaron paid for the dog, because the dog was useless to Aaron, he had him for awhile now, clearly could not afford feed for the dog, NOR any health care, that was obvious the day we got him. The dog couldn't breed and he also has a defect. So since Bob Cox knew I was looking for a "stud" that's when the perfect opportunity arose for Bob to make some $$$ and Aaron to unload a worthless dog. I doubt that Bob was spliting the money as Bob told me numerous times that he wanted ALL payments made to him ONLY. He was going to have the AKC papers put in HIS name, but I found out that was impossible as well. So even if this dog was a stud, without a defect he couldn't be registered with AKC. There again worthless without papers. Nothing but a SCAM!
I sent copies of Blitz' imported pedigree papers to AKC case management dept & to the foreign registry dept., along with a letter to let them know the fraud that these two men are commiting.
On 8/15/06 at 4:08 p.m. Bob Cox submitted the following to the pedigree database forum as facts: "Fact 8: She filed a claim with the Ill att. General office and they sent me a copy of her hand written complaint.I sent back copys of her emails and they proved that she was all lies."
Another lie! I printed out Bob Cox's post and sent them to the Illinois Attorney General's office & I asked them for copies of emails that Bob Cox stated that he sent to them. Its very interesting as Bob Cox has NOT submitted anything to them, other than a phone call he made on 8/24/06 begging for a 2 wk extension. Here Bob Cox is lying about a Gov't Agency! The IL Attny General's office re-sent Bob Cox another letter on 9/14/06 once again requesting that he get in touch with them. Why is he avoiding the Illinois Attorney General's office???
The Attorney General's office and I have talked in lenght about Bob Cox and we went over multiple conflicts in his statements that he's made in emails, in letters etc, I have everything prepared to take to court. I am hoping that the Attny General's office will file charges against him.
On 8/14/06 a lady posted the following on the pedigree database: "I know for a fact that Aaron did not import this dog. He bought it from a friend of mine in Florida for 400. My friend imported this dog at age one and had it for less than 6 months. He did not breed in Argentina, he was bought for resale for a pet. Aaron told my friend that he sold it to a family for a pet. If you like email me personally and I will get you in touch with the original importer of this dog. THe only freight bill is from FLorida to Indiana. Good luck.."
I called this lady after we emailed each other, and Jill informed me that her friend "Sen" in FL., purchased this dog and he did in fact sell this dog to Bob Cox's friend Aaron Pickard in the amount of $400. USD. FOR A PET! (FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS) My price was an outrageous $3000 (THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS) for a "top notch stud" that's what Bob referred Blitz to a "top notch stud". I am not concerned about the profit, its the mere fact that Bob Cox knowingly, and willfully sold me a dog that was of no use to me whatsoever. Bob knew for a fact that Blitz was NOT stud quality. I sent emails to Bob stating I was needing a "stud" for my breeding females. Bob Cox tells lie after lie after lie! He's only been in the German Shepherd business for a short time, he knows absolutely NOTHING about these dogs. When you treat people so WRONG as he did me, soon enough he will not be in business for long. I can only hope its sooner than later. Believe me, I am not alone here. I have many emails from others complaining about Bob Cox and his "breeding" practices.
Bob Cox is advertising puppies on his website and I would use extreme caution in buying ANYTHING from that man. He also advertises his stud, Marco on his website. If you do any business with this man have an attorney draw up a contract. In the long run, it wouldn't be worth it. There are many good breeders out there that sell top quality dogs, and are true to their word. Don't waste your time with Bob Cox. I wouldn't advise anyone using his stud, I used his stud (per HIS request) and he lied once AGAIN, this time about litter papers. Bob Cox is one big bag of garbage! Its ashame that no one can trust anyone anymore, everything has to be in writing, or better yet in blood, it use to be a hand shake and your word meant the world. HUH!
Bob Cox's word means absolutely NOTHING! He's a man that lives beyond his means, and sells junk dogs for top dollar to pay his bills. He cares NOTHING about the people who he sells to that much is obvious. So if a man has little regard to his buyers what does that say about what he's selling?
Bob Cox does much advertising in the Southern Illinois Trader newspapers, and the online classifieds. I will be traveling soon to Illinois to file my claim against him in small claims court. My advise to people out there that's thinking of doing business with Bob Cox...BUYER BEWARE!!!
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