• Report: #92354
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Bond Marketing Group Aka Granton Marketing Aka Cydor

  • Submitted: Thu, May 20, 2004
  • Updated: Wed, September 14, 2005

  • Reported By:Murray Utah
Bond Marketing Group Aka Granton Marketing Aka Cydor
5280 South 320 West - Building E, Suite 160 Murray, Utah U.S.A.
  • Phone: 801-262-3601
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  • Category: Employers

Bond Marketing Group Aka Granton Marketing Aka Cydor They lied and hid who they were to get me to interview. Murray Utah

*Consumer Comment: Steve's rebuttal was about as genuine as cubic zirconia

*Consumer Suggestion: What a joke? This company is a scam!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Honest, Hardworking People....Not a Scam...

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The Bond Marketing Group is a name used to disguise a business supplied by Granton Marketing aka Cydcor (both companies with bad reputations also noted on this website). So they came up this name so no one knows who they are. What a scam. They almost had me too. These are professional deceptive advertizers and marketing professionals.

They advertize heavily on the Internet mentioning a "Management Training Program" and a variety of posions designed for hardworking "Business Executives". Its really a bunch of kids that sell things by solicitation. They walk around almost all day in an sales "area".

I asked a lot of questions first off in my interview and I found that what I was told before the interview was just a LIE. I said I wasn't interested in the position anymore and left. Apparently many other people who have dealt more with Granton aka Cydcor weren't as lucky (from all the complaints against them). They wasted my time and gas driving to the interview.

I wondered why I couldn't find any information about the Bond Marketing Group so I was cautious from the start. After repeatedly pressing for information they finally mentioned Granton Marketing. I did some searches on that and in the process I also sumbled onto badbusinessbureau.com.

Thanks badbusinessbureau.com for saving me from any more trouble.
(http://www.cydcor.com)
(http://www.redsilo.com/granton/)

Kevin
Salt Lake City, Utah
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Steve's rebuttal was about as genuine as cubic zirconia

AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)

My sentiments exactly, Britton.

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Everybody needs ice, right? Well, who needs ice more than eskimos? With all that clothing they wear, they would get awfully hot without ice! Wouldn't you agree? Plus, without ice, their reindeer and peguin meat would go rancid in no time. Who wants to eat rotten penguin steaks? Yuck!

Well, what all of the other "traditional" ice marketers don't realize is that eskimos don't have t.v.s! Can't watch commercials without a t.v. right?

We have the solution!

What we do is called "I2I" sales, it's short for "igloo to igloo." Think about it: everybody likes it when people come to their houses or places of business and tries to sell something, right? Don't you love it when people come to your home or your job and try to sell you things? The only difference with our system is that eskimos live in houses made of snow.

We are currently looking for 10 hard working people to replace 15 that weren't. Do you want to be successful? Do you want to help eskimos? Then please, stop by our office and let us tell you how you can achieve the success of your dreams with I2I marketing. Robert Kiyosaki, author of "Rich Dad Poor Dad," calls us "The best business opportunity since Amway."

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

What a joke? This company is a scam!

AUTHOR: Britton - (U.S.A.)

Steve from Salt Lake City, Utah is a good con man. I bet he works for the company. Steve their is no way you can sell your rebuttal. I died laughing. You turned down a sales job at a car dealership and selling printers? Yeah, OK, I believe you! (smerk) Everybody on here knows anything to do with Granton is a joke. Not even a funny joke but a disgusting one. This Joke rips of employees, job applicants, and innocent people on door steps.
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Honest, Hardworking People....Not a Scam...

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

I am putting this under the rebuttal box to Kevin from Salt Lake City. I too interviewed with The Bond Marketing Group about 6-8 months ago. I answered an ad they had placed on the internet. There was a brief description of the position they were looking to fill in sales & marketing I called for more information and I spoke to a real nice girl on the phone who answered all of the immediate questions that I had off the top of my head. She also informed me that they were scheduling preliminary interviews and that if I wanted I could come in and meet with a Manager who could better answer all of my questions. I chose to do so.

When I arrived the receptionist was cheery and greeted me. I filled out an application and brought a copy of my resume just like any other job interview I had been to. There was (3) other people in the lobby also waiting. The lobby was nice and clean. A manager named Bob (not his real name) came out and greeted all of us and said he will be sitting down with each of us. He was dressed sharp and in a suit/tie. He was about 30 years old. He met with the (3) before me and then he called me back. Each interview was about 10 minutes. He told me this was a brief preliminary and that if they thought I was a match they would have me come in for a job shadow that way we could each spend a day together and evaluate each other. I thought that was good. I know of many Fortune 500 companies that do the same thing that way they keep their turn over ratio down. That made sense. He told me he had a lot of response to the ads they placed so he had a few screening questions to make sure it was a fit. No problem I definitely didn't want to waste anyone's time if it wasn't a match.

He told me the hours. He told me it was an entry-level position (I saw that advertised on the internet) and he told me the position was Sales & Marketing (that was also advertised on the internet posting) so far so good. We had a good discussion in which he said that their business does advertising differently than traditional mass media. Mass media is expensive and doesn't guarantee results. I agreed with that. He told me their form of advertising is Word of Mouth and they work face-to-face. I have been in sales a long time and I know for a fact from past personal success that face-to-face works and is defiantly better than telemarketing, and junk mail and doesn't cost as much as mass media. Their business model made sense. Bob let me know a few of the clients that they had represented in the past and a few of their current clients. I am a big sports fan and I love the Utah Jazz. I was excited to learn that they represented the Jazz. Bob told me if they called me back for a 2nd interview he would try to get me to shadow someone on the Utah Jazz Campaign. We finished the interview with a couple of normal interview questions and then he told me that they would call back tonight or tomorrow if they we interested. He gave me a business card. I thanked him for his time and left. I went and did (2) more interviews that day with other well known sales companies but I wasn't as impressed as I was with Bob. They were more reputable but so much more high pressurecar sales, copiers, and office machinery are not nearly as fun as sports & entertainment.

When I left I was excited so after the other interviews I went home and jumped on the computer to do some research on The Bond Marketing Group. I went back to their website and reviewed it. Pretty professional. I also did a google search and found this: The Rip Off Report. After I read what you, Kevin, posted I was pissed because Bob seemed like such a good guy but I am an optimist by nature and I look for the good in things. I continued to research this Rip Off Report. I found cases against MCDONALD'S, HOME DEPOT, DELTA AIRLINES, THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE AND MANY MORE VERY REPUTABLE COMPANIES. Kevin, this tells me that this site is a joke. There are probably some real issues at hand here with some companies but the majority of these complaints are actually pretty funny. It seemed like to me just a lot of people with too much time on their hands so they jumped on the internet to get even. My impression wasn't that these people were really trying to help humanity. However everyone is entitled to their opinion.

However, I remained very skeptical about The Bond Marketing Group. I decided that if I got called back to be very cautious.

I did get a call that night and it was from Bob I didn't tell him what I found but I did tell him I had some reservations due to some of the research I had done. He said, No problem, we don't know if the company is a match for you that is why we are going to spend the day together and he even offered to personally take me out the next day to show me the sales side of the business if I was that skeptical that way all of my questions could be answered. I agreed to that. I had done full day interviews before so that wasn't a big deal. I arrived at the office the next morning about mid-day and there were (2) other people going on 2nd interviews also. Bob came out and greeted us. We waited in the lobby for like 10 minutes and then Bob set the other (2) guys up with a couple of their top sales reps to have their shadow days. They also looked sharp. After everyone was gone Bob came out and said I was going with him that day. He said he would buy me lunch and show me the sales but later would break down the advancement of the company. We got out to his car and he introduced me to (3) other sales reps that we going to car pool with us that day. They were all clean cut and dressed professionally. I got in the front seat and Bob and I started talking. He reviewed the preliminary interview from yesterday and told me I would see jut the entry-level today and that I was going to see the Utah Jazz Campaign. He showed it to me it was a sweeeet deal! The other reps were working that day on Pizza Hut. That was also a great promotion. Bob dropped them off in a business district and told me they had been assigned a certain target market by Pizza Hut Corporation. That made sense when I sold insurance they did the same approach. Nothing new. We continued downtown to the Financial District. That seemed like a good plan all of those business people like basketball and like to impress clients. We got downtown and parked the car and Bob explained the Law of Averages. The more people you talk to the more buyers you will find. The same concept as all of my previous sales jobs.

We started going business to business. Throughout the day there were some businesses that didn't want to give us anytime to talk but, there was also a lot of contacts made on behalf of The Utah Jazz and I say Bob was pretty good and he earned way more money than what was advertised for the entry-level position. He also bought me a nice lunch and showed me the advancement program in the company. It was all performance based which means it was up to me. I liked that. I didn't have to wait for someone to die or retire before I could move up. It makes sense that everyone starts at entry-level that way they really know how to manage people. Bob told me he started at entry-level and it took him just over 12 months to get into an upper management capacity. Not bad considering: How far are you really going to go in just 1 year at any other corporate company? My dad worked for his company for 23 years before making it to the top and then they sold the company and he lost his job. His severance was nice but not worth 23 years.

This is what Bob told me
-He told me it was salesI saw sales
-He told me it was Face-to-FaceIt was Face-to-Face
-He told me it was entry-levelI saw entry-level
-He told me he would buy me lunchHe bought me lunch
-He told me he would show me the company has advancementthe company does have advancement if your willing to work but most decent companies require effort.

We picked up the other guys at the end of the day and they all had smiles on their faces and seemed like they had been successful. I would imagine you wouldn't find too many people who hadn't heard of Pizza Hut.

We got back to the office and had a final interview. I was impressed with the day and was glad I didn't listen to you, Kevin, who didn't even spend full day with them and probably had a bad attitude when you went in for the 1st interview. You are giving a lot of people a bad impression of honest hard-working people that you have no real knowledge of just information from a complainers website.

I was offered a position but, I told Bob, that I would like to accept but I had to discuss with my wife at home first just because I had to make sure she would be supportive of the hours because we had a newborn child.

Unfortunately, my wife was not supportive of the hours and the following morning I called Bob to let him know that I could not accept the position.

I have since moved on and work at a very prestigious Financial Planning Institution in Sandy, Utah. Guess what KevinI do sales, I started at entry-level, and our company makes money through solicitation. That is business. Money exchanged for goods. I am pleased to say that I do business with The Bond Marketing Group and we buy a large amount of their promotions every year for employee incentives and gifts for our clients.

If your are looking for fast advancement and a challenging position I recommend interviewing with THE BOND MARKETING GROUP.
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